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Kabardian-Chircassian, Latgallian and Veps wikis

What we must to do for approval these wikis? Some users in Rus.Wiki ask me. As I see, the activity of Kbd and Ltg is positive, but Veps is still under "discussion", not still "verified"... So, ask, please=) Thanks--Andrijko Z. 06:02, 9 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

wp/kbd is still lacking recognition as active wiki and its content has not yet been verified "with a reliable neutral source, such as a professor or expert". As the test is sufficiently active, it would be good if the contributors of the test could name an expert whom the Langcom could contact in order to verify the content. At the same time, it could be pointed out to the Langcom that the test wiki is "active" according to the requirements, and should be marked as such.
For wp/ltg, activity is already known to the Langcom, and now the content has to be verified - so same as above, it would be good if the test contributors know an expert the Langcom can contact.
Regarding the Veps request, it could be that the committee still wants to wait some time before verifying it as eligible - wait a bit, and if nothing happens, ask the committee to act upon it. --MF-W {a, b} 19:07, 9 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
Thank you --Andrijko Z. 19:47, 9 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
See wp/rue: It is only waiting on creation by the developers, see bugzilla:25924. Unfortunately creating new subdomains doesn't seem to be ranking high on developers' to do lists. It is only possible to wait until it will be created someday. (Until that happens, of course contributions on Incubator can continue!) --MF-W {a, b} 20:04, 9 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
In the kbd-wiki rather high activity in April 2010. Maybe we should update meta:Language committee/Status/wp/kbd? I thought that this page can only update the administrators. Master Shadow 19:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
I think the same (about update)--Andrijko Z. 20:01, 9 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
As I said, it should be pointed out to the Langcom that that status report should be updated. I see you already requested this, but nothing happened. I don't know who may update these "unofficial analyses". --MF-W {a, b} 20:04, 9 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
Ok, thanks again=)--Andrijko Z. 20:13, 9 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

For wp/ltg we have some Latgalian experts (if I can say that), so what they should do? --Dark Eagle (runuot · devīņs) 21:30, 9 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Yes, where should contact an expert on language? Master Shadow 09:34, 10 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
You can contact the m:Langcom or only one of its members and ask them what is hindering the final approval of Latgalian Wikipedia and if it's the lack of "a reliable neutral source, such as a professor or expert", tell them that you can know some they could contact to verify that the wp/ltg test is really containing Latgalian content. --MF-W {a, b} 22:01, 13 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Incubator:Requests for deletion

Hello, can you have a look at this page: Incubator:Requests for deletion. I've seen no administrator looked back since March 2010. Thank you! --Danutz 15:46, 18 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Sure, expect some decisions there soon. --MF-W {a, b} 22:14, 18 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
Hey, I've seen you deleted the Moldovan Incubator, but something fishy happened: The user moved the incubator to Wp/mol, so I think that should also be deleted. Please also protect (if that is allowed) this pages: Wp/mo and Wp/mol. Maybe putting a notice in the pages might help, because otherwise I think we delete it now, and in a while the user recreates it. Anyway, I wrote to the user informing him about the deletion. Have a nice day.--Danutz 16:15, 26 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
I deleted the wp/mol pages, prevented recreation of wp/mo(l) pages, and added some notes there that people can go to Romanian Wikipedia. Regards --MF-W {a, b} 20:30, 26 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
Ok, thank you! --Danutz 21:40, 28 January 2011 (UTC)Reply


Hallo, ich arbeite nun seit einigen Wochen an der albanischen Wikinews version (Wikilajme). Jedoch ist mir einiges nicht so klar, wie läuft das mit der Veröffentlichung? Gibt es da einen Zeitraum? In einer Seite sah ich eine Reihe von Projekten die veröffentlicht wurden, mir fiehl auf das diese Testprojekte alle auf ein Datum orientiert waren. --Mikullovci11 17:32, 26 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Du meinst wahrscheinlich die Liste auf I:Site creation log? Dort wird einfach nur registriert, wann die "echten" Wikis (also die Subdomains) angelegt wurden. Es gibt da keinen festen Zeitplan für - sobald alle Bedingungen erfüllt sind, wird das Sprachkomitee die Erstellung beantragen. Es gibt zu den meisten Test-Wikis eine "inoffizielle Analyse", wo man sehen kann, was noch nötig ist: für die albanische Wikinews ist das m:Language committee/Status/wn/sq. Man sieht: diese Systemtexte müssten noch übersetzt werden, und wenn das Test-Wiki hier weiter aktiv bleibt, wird wahrscheinlich bald die Seite sq.wikinews.org eröffnet. --[[User:|MF-W]] {a, b} 21:18, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Alles klar danke für die Antwort. --Mikullovci11 12:48, 27 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
Ich hab noch eine kleine Frage. Wenn die Seite erstellt wird muss die ja von einem Benutzer kontrolliert, aktualisiert usw. werden. Wo kann man sich als Bürokrat (Wenn es erwünscht ist) anmelden bzw. zur Wahl stellen? --Mikullovci11 20:33, 28 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
Das wird wohl noch etwas dauern (bis dahin evtl. schon mal Test-Administrator hier werden) - im neuen Wiki einfach eine Admin-Wahl-Seite erstellen und sich vorschlagen; wenn man gewählt wird, beantragt man die Rechte auf m:SRP. Allerdings wird Bürokratenstatus gleich am Anfang normalerweise nicht gewährt, erst wenn das Wiki eine bestimmte Größe erreicht hat (ca. 15 Aktive sollten es schon sein). --MF-W {a, b} 21:04, 29 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Hi MF-Warburg! All required messages have been translated! The test has 852 articles, categories, templates, and talk pages and 13 editors (including any with at least one edit).--Olsi Hysa (diskuto) 15:56, 15 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

That's good to hear, now let's hope the committee will approve the Albanian Wikinews soon! :-) --MF-W {a, b} 21:30, 15 February 2011 (UTC)Reply


Hi MF-Warburg! I'd like to usurp User:Olsi. Is this possible? Olsi Hysa (diskuto) 17:22, 20 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

As there have been no contributions by that user, I'd say it is. Do you want it to be done? --MF-W {a, b} 17:53, 20 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I do. Olsi Hysa (diskuto) 18:04, 20 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
Done. --MF-W {a, b} 19:38, 20 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Import rights

Hey, MF-Warburg. I'm going to request import rights from meta soon, to move around pages as part of the Coordination for importing closed projects. Per policy I wanted to give you a heads-up before I actually start doing it. Please let me know if you have any objections. Thanks, TeleComNasSprVen 21:32, 2 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

No problem, I always appreciate if someone wants to help, but please also add a note on I:A as required by the policy and also asked for by a steward. --MF-W {a, b} 18:10, 4 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

Simple English Wikinews

I am not sure why you got rid of my proposal to Create A simple Engish it has an ISO 6983 code so whats the problem? --Rancalred 18:01, 3 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Where did I do this? (Besides, simple is not a valid ISO code. --MF-W {a, b} 20:43, 3 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
It Has To be Otherwise There wouldn't be simple engilsh wikipedia or wikitonary --Rancalred 12:23, 4 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
Simple English Wikipedia and Wiktionary were created before the Language proposal policy (or even the Language committee) existed. Hydriz 15:07, 4 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

username rename

Hi! Per my SUL rename, I'd like to ask to be renamed from user:White Cat to User:とある白い猫 Thanks! -- Cat chi? 19:34, 29 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

Done. There was already an account "User:とある白い猫", however with no contributions, so it was usurped. --MF-W {a, b} 19:56, 29 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

Regarding To The Deletion Request

Hi there. Sorry I was not available for a relatively long period. Apparently somebody thru an Ip had wanted Southern Kurdish entries to be deleted. I see nothing "MİSTAKE"n in those entries and I am curious to know what mistakes a user with Turkish keyboard (as the bold "İ" above reveals) finds within them. Thank you. Sincere regards.--Kak Language 19:14, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for this information (although it came really late). I hope you'll be able to become active in wp/sdh sometime again --MF-W {a, b} 17:22, 9 September 2011 (UTC)Reply


Danke für die Änderung meines Namen. Noch eine Frage: Ich habe einen neuen Namen bekommen, und ich möchte von dir fragen, wenn XY Tage vergangen sind, kann ich nicht nur movieren, sondern die "Adminheit" zurückbekommen? Oder muss ich wieder um eine neue bitten? --Martinus Poeta Juvenis 14:21, 11 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

Wenn du dich unter deinem neuen Namen einloggst, hast du dort die Admin-Rechte. --MF-W {a, b} 14:25, 11 September 2011 (UTC)Reply
Danke für die Auskunft. ;-D --Μαρτινός ὁ Νέος 14:26, 11 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

(Programmier)Hilfe bei Chinese Mandarin Wiki Interlinear-Text/Version

Hallo, bitte schau Dir mal mein Posting an: Interlinear version would be useful

Es geht um Folgendes: die verschiedenen chinesischen Wikis zh-Chinesisch (中文); zh-classical-Klassisches Chinesisch (文言); zh-min-nan- Min Nan (Bân-lâm-gú); zh-yue Kantonesisch (粵語) haben nur die chinesischen Schriftzeichen ohne das oder die jeweiligen Transkriptionssysteme. Nun wäre es meines Erachtens ein einfaches jeweils auch diese mit im Text anzugeben. Allerdings benötigt man (d.h. zunächst einmal nur ich) hierfür eine Vorlage, die es ermöglicht

  1. den chinesischen Text (z.B. für einen längeren Abschnitt auszulesen,
  2. die dazugehörige Transkription auszulesen (oder umgekehrt)
  3. beide im Wiki-Artikel so zusammenzuführen, dass man entweder die Transkription oder die chinesischen Schriftzeichen ein- bzw. ausblenden kann.

Gleichzeitig sollte dann aber die Möglichkeit vorhanden sein, diese Vorlage auszubauen auf mehrere ein- und ausblendbare Transkriptionssysteme sowie auch Lang- oder Kurzformen (vereinfachte Formen) der chinesischen Zeichen.

Ich hab in meinem posting auf dem Portal mal diese Punkte angesprochen, glaube aber, dass ich so nicht weiterkomme.

Vielleicht kannst Du mir ja weiterhelfen, denn dann könnte man eventuell die auch die bestehenden chinesischen (aber auch japanischen Wikis so ergänzen. Andernfalls sind die chinesischen Wikis für Nicht-Chinesen (aber auch für die meisten Chinesen, wenn sie nicht gerade ganz gebildet sind) nicht sehr hilfreich bzw. mehr oder weniger unbrauchbar. Nur gemeinsam mit der transkribierten Aussprache der chinesischen Schriftzeichen (Laut UND Schrift - entsprechend unserer Laut-Schrift) hat man einen (wesentlich leichteren) Zugriff auf den Inhalt der jeweiligen Artikel und kann diese Wikis auch als Enzyklopädie nutzen d.h. sich mittels der Wiki weiterbilden.Dudy001 21:02, 25 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

(etwas verspätete Antwort:) Ich glaube, wir hier im Incubator sind da wohl nicht die richtige Anlaufstelle für. Ob/wie das, was dir vorschwebt technisch machbar ist (es gibt ja bereits jetzt m:Wikipedias in multiple writing systems, wie die serbischsprachige, wo man per Klick auf ein Tab die Schrift, die angezeigt wird, umstellen kann), weiß ich nicht. Davon abgesehen wundert es mich, was du im Community Portal zur Erlernbarkeit der chin. Schrift geschrieben hast; nach en.wp gibt es auch in China eine Alphabetisierungsrate von 95%, so schwer kann das also doch nicht sein? Ansonsten könntest du mal in den chinesischen Projekten anfragen, was man denn von so einem Feature halten würde (falls technisch möglich). --MF-W {a, b} 20:24, 29 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

why did you do that

okay what is wrong with a wikipedia that uses images and sounds instead of words blind and people with no written language could benefit from it --Rancalred 19:10, 29 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

I guess you refer to the deletion of wp/zxx? Well, zxx is not a valid code, as it is defined as "No linguistic content". Apart from that, there was no info on the info page except "NOS" (with no explanation what that is). --MF-W {a, b} 20:33, 29 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

so why not ? --Rancalred 17:41, 15 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Wp/nso deletion

Hello. Importing of Wp/nso is finished and I want to delete it, but I cannot. The message is:

Permissions errors

This wiki already exists. You can find this page on //nso.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomoro. If the wiki was recently created, please wait a few hours or days until all content is imported.

Can you unlock the deletion? --амдф 07:50, 14 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

This is a known problem with the Incubator extension, it will be fixed with the next update. --MF-W {a, b} 08:21, 14 November 2011 (UTC)Reply


Hi, I proposed to the removal of those categories in which errors and duplicate they generally are not used.Lezgistxa 15:05, 29 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Thank you, I have deleted them. --MF-W {a, b} 15:09, 29 November 2011 (UTC)Reply


Good luck with your New-Wiki importer tool. I will see you around later. Thanks! --Katarighe 00:52, 1 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. --MF-W {a, b} 15:27, 1 December 2011 (UTC)Reply


Hi! Could you create page MediaWiki:Incubator-logo-wp-sli with text "File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-sli.png" (without linking)? Regards, Przemub 14:50, 17 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Done. --MF-W {a, b} 11:50, 18 December 2011 (UTC)Reply


Hey, thank you for granting adminship for the lad project. I'll try to grow the project as much as I can. --Universal Life 16:44, 22 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

About your suggestion on popes in the Livonian Wikipedia

Thank you for your suggestion. I have been planning to write the article Wp/liv/Rōma pōpst all along, currently just considering what to include in the first place. Some popes, like Innocent III, have had a larger impact on Livonian history than others. I think I will get to writing the article sometime this week or next week. -- Ohpuu 07:52, 6 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Request for new languages

Good day, I created Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Micmac and added it to the table on Requests_for_new_languages on MetaWiki three days ago, but there isn't any word since then. Is there a place where I have to put the announcement of the creation of this request page or am I just in a rush ? Amqui 19:19, 31 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

You're in a rush :-) You won't get many comments on a Requests for new languages, except if there is a large group of people who like to express their joy about a proposal very much (but that won't help the approval in any way). It may take some time until the Langcom verifies the project to be eligibile, but I don't think there will be any problems with that. --MF-W {a, b} 19:38, 31 January 2012 (UTC)Reply


Can you suggest me some of the extenshan that we can propose at the start of Marathi wiki source.

Thanks Rahul Deshmukh

mr:user:rahuldeshmukh101 — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rahuldeshmukh101 (discussioncontribs) 3. February 2012, 17:08 Uhr.

What do you mean? Actually all MediaWiki extensions typically installed on a Wikimedia wiki should be there. --MF-W {a, b} 17:44, 3 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Wikisource auf Chantisch

Hi, ich habe mit meinem Bekannten in Chanty-Mansijsk nochmal gesprochen und er würde jetzt gerne erst einmal seine Literatur in ein Wikiprojekt überführen. Ich habe ihm erklärt, dass dazu Wikisource da ist. Aber ist es immer noch so, dass im Inkubator keine Wikisource-Testprojekte laufen sondern dass man direkt in Wikisource.org arbeitet? Gibt es da irgendwo eine Handreichung für neue Projekte? Danke und Gruß! --Johannes Rohr (WMDE) 19:51, 5 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Ja, Wikisources gehören nach oldwikisource:. Die Seite erscheint mir aber sehr anarchisch (nicht, dass ich da viel wäre), vgl. oldwikisource:Wikisource:Language_domain_requests, man muss nicht viel beachten. Ich würde etwa so vorgehen:
  • Erstellung einer "Hauptseite" (mit übersetztem Namen)
  • Erstellung einer Kategorie "Chantisch"
  • und alle Seiten (denen man einen Chantischen Namen gibt) einfach dort einsortieren. Weitere Fragen kannst du übrigens gerne auch im IRC stellen (geht schneller) --MF-W {a, b} 20:18, 5 February 2012 (UTC)Reply


Is there any problem with including interwikis on the articles in the incubator ? Amqui 22:38, 5 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

No, but you have to take care for non-Wikipedia tests, as every language link from Incubator is treated as going to Wikipedia, even for Wiktionary and other tests. --MF-W {a, b} 23:01, 5 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Deletions outside your test II

(redundant; see original place of discussion)

Analysis for A/B tests

Hey, in preparation for the end of a test we like to pre-plan what we're going to have our data analyst measure to determine the success of the test or not. You know Incubator much better than I do, so if you want to be bold here, please feel welcome to do so. Thanks again, Steven (WMF) 01:12, 15 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

testing Rangi wiktionary wt/lag

Moin. Während in einer Wikipedia Muttersprachler mitmachen müssen, ist es bei Wiktionaries auch für Nicht-Muttersprachler wesentlich einfacher, was beizutragen. Da ich nicht-veröffentlichte Wortlisten in mehreren ostafrikanischen Bantusprachen zusammengesammelt habe, wollte ich jetzt endlich mal anfangen, Wiktionaries dafür aufzumachen, und habe mal mit Rangi angefangen (Rangi spreche ich auch so halbwegs leidlich). Ausgehend von meinen früheren Erfahrungen auf zu.wiktionary.org, habe ich da einiges einfach nachgemacht, aber mit Kategorien und Templates scheint das hier im Inkubator nicht so wirklich zu klappen. Und wenn ich den Dreh dann raushab, sollte ich wohl auch n Request auf Meta stellen. Oder was würdest Du mir raten? --Baba Tabita (talk) 19:23, 8 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Okay, das mit den Prefixes hab ich jetzt geschnallt. Die Interwikis gehen trotzdem noch auf en:wp statt en:wikt, aber seisdrum. Auf weitere Ratschläge bin ich weiterhin gespannt. Vor allem auch, ob die Erstellung größerer Wiktionaries in ansonsten unterrepräsentierten Bantusprachen in dem Maße überhaupt erwünscht ist. Für heute erstmal tschüs! --Baba Tabita (talk) 19:57, 8 March 2012 (UTC)Reply
Ja, also. Freut mich. Kategorien und Vorlagen müssen im Format Category:Wt/lag/ statt Wt/lag/Category: betitelt werden, sonst sind sie für die Software nicht im richtigen Namensraum; das hab ich für die bestehenden Kategorien mal geändert. Die Interwikilinks von hier aus funktionieren wie in einer Wikipedia, daher habe ich ein wenig an der Template:Wt/lag/t geändert (:en:wikt:...).
Zu den grundsätzlichen Erwägungen: Üblich ist es ja bekanntlich, als erstes Projekt einer Sprache eine Wikipedia zu starten, aber natürlich nicht nötig. Ob das Wiktionary deine "Privatspielerei" bleibt oder nicht, hängt davon ab, ob sich weitere Beitragende finden, grundsätzlich ist aber nichts dagegen einzuwenden. Wir löschen nix, was einen ISO-Code hat :-) --MF-W {a, b} 14:53, 9 March 2012 (UTC)Reply
Ah danke - mal sehen, ob ich das Kategorien-Format mit AWB korrigiert kriege. Und ja, vielleicht kann ich ein paar Rangi motivieren (und wenn dann sogar ne Wikipedia draus würde, umso besser; die Rangi-Chatgroup auf FB, die ich vor nem guten Jahr gegründet habe, hat mittlerweile 300+ Mitglieder, aber Chatten is natürlich was anderes als n Wiki schreiben). Ich bau hier erstmal n Korpus auf. --Baba Tabita (talk) 16:10, 9 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

"My sandbox" link and help link

The origin of this problem is discussed at the Wikipedia Village Pump, where I first posted it.

  1. I logged in to Wikimedia, thinking I was using the secure login to Wikipedia (en).
  2. My user page had a "My sandbox" link on the top; I didn't put it there.
  3. When I clicked on it, I got an error message, "Error: This page is unprefixed!"
    • That's Problem A: Why is a new user given a link that produces an error message? If a new user automatically gets a User page and a User Talk page and a "My Sandbox" link, he should also automatically be given a Sandbox page that the link will take him to.
  4. The word "unprefixed" was linked. I clicked on the link.
  5. That took me to the Wikipedia:Help page.
    • That's Problem B: The link should be specific, not "Welcome to our huge help space. You're on your own. Good luck, you'll need it."
    • Hoping to find something useful, I searched for "Sandbox".
    • The page had a disambiguation header:
      {{Selfref|For the Wikipedia feature, where anyone can experiment with editing Wikipedia pages, see Wikipedia:Sandbox or Wikipedia:About the Sandbox.}}
  6. I clicked on Wikipedia:Sandbox
  7. That had the very useful text:
    If you have registered an account you can find or create your own user sandbox here. For future easy access, you can put {{tl|My sandbox}} on your userpage.

And that, or something like it, is what should be implemented in the user's page header, if you're not going to fix Problem A by providing the sandbox in the first place. But, for my 2¢ worth, it'd be a lot better

  • to create the user's sandbox automatically and give him a working link, than
  • to give him a bad link and tell him how to add a good one to his user page.

And since the link IS in the header of every page I look at--

    Thnidu    My talk    My preferences    My watchlist    My contributions    Log out

-- it's not just a matter of editing the user page, but the user header. Yes?

--Thnidu (talk) 05:17, 18 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Partly. Here on Incubator, we don't provide a "My sandbox" link in the header. I've now changed the link in the unprefixed error messages, which indeed should go to a more specific page. -- I see your problem with the secure server redirecting you from Wikipedia to Wikimedia Incubator has already been solved on en: --MF-W {a, b} 05:36, 18 March 2012 (UTC)Reply


Hi Vugar 1981, could you please explain in which way the several wp/slr pages you deleted were test pages? --MF-W {a, b} 15:03, 14 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Hi MF-Warburg. This pages ia an non-enciclopedic content. Many of these pages was a poems, praise and other not concerned texts. For example this page is a lyric, etc. Thanks. --N KOziTalk 11:31, 19 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Soxred-Link u. a.

Hei MF-Warburg, hatte ich eigentlich zum globalen Admin gratuliert gehabt? Falls nicht, sei dies hiermit nachgeholt, kannst du sicher gebrauchen bzw. brauchst du sicher bereits ausgiebig. :-)

Soxred: Vielleicht solltest du hier in der MW-Nachricht zum Footer bei den Benutzerbeiträgen (findest du sicher) den Beitragslink vom Soxred-Tool ändern in http://toolserver.org/~tparis/pcount/index.php?name=NAME&lang=incubator&wiki=wikimedia, damit es auch hier keinen toten Link mehr dazu gibt. Eventuell auch sonstwo, wo noch der alte Link drin verschollen ist (es ist schon ein Kreuz mit den auslaufenden Toolserver-Accounts).

Und ich hab mich eben kurz erschrocken, als ich plötzlich eine Stunde meines Lebens für die nächsten 7 Monate verloren und für einen Edit auf der Hilfeseite mehr als 1 Stunde benötigt hab. ;-) Aber dafür ist nun zumindest wieder Sommerzeit, die fand ich immer schon besser. :-) Viele Grüße --Geitost (talk) 02:24, 25 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Oh danke, ich lasse meiner Löschwut bereits freien Lauf ;-)
Den Soxred-Link habe ich angepasst (und gleich noch einen anderen, der aber zur neuen Stelle weiterleitete). --MF-W {a, b} 11:46, 25 March 2012 (UTC)Reply
Sehr schön, immer weiter so. :-) --Geitost (talk) 14:09, 29 March 2012 (UTC)Reply
Hab grad erst die Einleitung dieser Seite gelesen; you made my day. lol --Geitost (talk) 14:19, 29 March 2012 (UTC)Reply


Hi would say that in the Wikipedia logo Lezghin mistake, instead of ВикипедиЯ ВикипедиA wrote the phrase and should mount a free encyclopedia. Sasibo. And to mount a intervki with other languages ​​Ада энциклопедиа Lezgistxa (talk) 13:30, 28 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Hi, I can't do anything about that, this should be discussed by the Lezgi community. --MF-W {a, b} 14:07, 28 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Bitte übersetze die Seite Contents.

Hallo MF-Warburg,

du erhältst diese E-Mail, da du dich als Übersetzer(in) für Deutsch auf Wikimedia Incubator registriert hast. Eine neue Seite, Help:Contents, ist zum Übersetzen vorhanden. Übersetze sie bitte.

I'm just trying out, ya know.

Vielen Dank, die Mitarbeiter von Wikimedia Incubator

Stylish templates

Very well, then create a {{todo}} template modeled after {{doing}}, but with the image and text you want. I would have done this myself, but I can't create unprefixed templates. - dcljr (talk) 13:09, 10 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

But where's the point in changing the page's layout and using templates? --MF-W {a, b} 14:03, 10 May 2012 (UTC)Reply


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Request about the Talysh Wikipedia

Dear Warburg,
We decided to make an appeal to you with one request. For your information, we are currently working on Wikipedia in Talysh Language. The problem we face right now is the issues regarding the script. Right now, Talysh Wikipedia is registered with Cyrillic script. I would like to inform you that, majority of Talysh people living in Azerbaijan use Latin script, as the Latin script is officially accepted by the Republic of Azerbaijan since the alphabet change from Cyrillic to Latin immediately after the Soviet Union's collapse and the country's independence. Now in all schools of Azerbaijan Latin Alphabet is in use and young generation of Talysh people are not able to read Cyrillic alphabet completely. This Talysh Wiki will be followed mostly by young people and if they cannot read Cyrillic script, they will not be able to benefit from the knowledge which Wikipedia ensures. So it's very pity. But the Talysh people of old generation and as well Talyshes who live outside of Azerbaijan can read Latin alphabet. New Talysh alphabet is designed for use in Talysh texts, according to the phonological requirements of this language. So, the the situation is that, the most Talysh people live in Azerbaijan in their Homeland and use Latin alphabet. Talysh people who live in Iran use Persian script and Talysh people who emigrated to Russia use Cyrillic alphabet. But both of them, people who live in Iran and Russia can read Latin alphabet for sure, but the case is that, the young people who live Azerbaijan cannot read Cyrillic alphabet, they only can read Latin. As the majority of Wikipedia readers will be young people from Azerbaijan, they need Latin script for Talysh Wikipedia. So, we would like to ask you kindly to help us with this issue to add Latin script for Wikipedia in the Translatewiki alongside with Cyrillic 'tly' => 'толышә зывон', # Talysh. We would like to have: 'tly' => 'толышә зывон/tolyšə zyvon', # Talysh. So it means to add Latin script use for Talysh language alongside with Cyrillic in this link: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/Names.php?annotate=102460#l339 We would suggest to have 3 scripts in use in order to ensure readability for all users of Talysh Wikipedia and to escape any problem that can occur. We consider this is to be the best solution for this problem. We mean like this: 1. 'tly' => 'tolyšə zyvon', # Talysh(Latin) 2. 'tly' => 'толышә зывон', # Talysh(Cyrillic) 3. 'tly' => 'زبان تالشی', # Talysh(Persian) As we know this is in use for Qırımtatarca, Kazakh, Tatar and Serbian Wiki, I mean Latin and Cyrillic scripts. If this is not possible for Talysh Wiki, we would like to ask you to help us in doing it only in Latin , because Latin is readable for everybody (Talysh people who live in Azerbaijan, Iran, Russia, Europe) but Cyrillic is readable only people who live in Russia, not readable for the people outside of Russia. The person who opened Talysh Wiki suggested it in Cyrillic, because he lives in Russia. But we talk to him and he agreed to add Latin or to change it completely to Latin. We just want Azerbaijani Talysh people who use Latin, to benefit from Wikipedia's knowledge. As well, we wonder whether it is possible to do tly-cyrl and tly-latn for both scripts. If it is possible, it would be very useful for both alphabet users. This issue is very important for Talysh people who live in Azerbaijan and we will be very happy if you could help us with this issue. Thank you very much for your attention!

(--Erdemaslancan (talk) 18:22, 25 May 2012 (UTC))Reply

Hi, please see User talk:SPQRobin for an answer. Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 22:48, 30 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does this and that qualify as spam?


And, by the way, it seems my templates pool idea hasn't materialized yet. Anything I can do?-- Mkratz (talk) 20:12, 19 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

I've deleted the two pages. They don't necessarily count as spam, but they were definitely written in the wrong language. For your template idea, it's best to present it on I:CP for discussion by the community. --MF-W {a, b} 20:32, 19 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Istrian Wikipedia

At the moment the pages can be deleted. Unfortunately, there were been no istriot users in all this time, and nobody has helped translate the voice. Then you can safely proceed at the cancellation. --Reder (talk) 10:49, 22 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Gurkha Wikipedia

I have requested to start new wikipedia in Gorkha language which is known Gurkha or gokhali language or khus kura. Actually it is Nepali language which is written in Devanagari script. Now a days the language, unofficially, is being written in Latin script in some parts(i.e. In Bhutan, Myanmar as there is no provision of teaching devanagari script) and it used by large no of young people. In fact gorkha language is (Latin version) of Nepali language. Would you pl help to request to get iso code or use the same code of Nepali for this Latin version. BhawaniG (talk) 02:32, 1 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

I withdraw my request.--BhawaniG (talk) 09:44, 9 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

Na'vi Wikipedia

Hi, I would like to create the Na'vi Wikipedia, and I can't create Wp/Na'vi because this the title is unprefixed. But, the na'vi has no language code and the request for a language code to the na'vi language was rejected in february 2012. So, because you're an administrator, can you allow the prefix "Na'vi" or "Navi" please ? Thank you very much for your quick answer. Ĉiuĵaŭde (talk) 13:18, 22 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, I can't, see also my answer at Incubator:AN#Na.27vi_language. It is necessary to have an ISO code. See also I:PREFIX. Best regards, --MF-W {a, b} 13:27, 22 July 2012 (UTC)Reply
This is official decision, we cannot create the Wikipedia in Na'vi. I speak few words in Na'vi and the administrators do not want to have test wiki of language with no language code here. Delete that and that, please. I lost a lot of time of my life, and it's so bad. Ĉiuĵaŭde (talk) 14:09, 22 July 2012 (UTC)Reply
I have deleted them. Please note that it is not merely a question of the wishes of Incubator administrators - as Na'vi has no ISO code (and is a constructed language that is hardly used), the Language Proposal Policy criteria of Wikimedia don't allow it. Please don't be discouraged, there are many other opportunities to contribute in Wikipedias. --MF-W {a, b} 14:15, 22 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

Re: Wp/akz/Pļóto innaaɬiilka

I answered your question in this page. Light from Texas (talk) 00:00, 31 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

Ok, I have deleted the page. --MF-W {a, b} 11:44, 1 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
I wanna give you a barnstar before you do, I'm stealing your idea ;-) Here's the special barnstar for everything you did on Incubator and all the talking on IRC, otherwise I wouldn't be as motivated for the coding etc :D SPQRobin (talk) 19:19, 20 August 2012 (UTC)Reply
Dank je wel! Imitateur :P --MF-W {a, b} 19:38, 20 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Good Humor
Not that I want to start a flood of barnstars, but this is one you just have to get as well :D SPQRobin (talk) 19:40, 20 August 2012 (UTC)Reply


hi،user:vikibot is the limit.Thank--E THP (talk) 17:04, 4 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

I have set the bot flag per the discussion on I:A. --MF-W {a, b} 19:52, 4 October 2012 (UTC)Reply
Thank You.--E THP (talk) 20:06, 4 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

New reply

Hello. There are new reply for you, here. Please consider my request. Thank you. SpartacksCompatriot (talk) 07:49, 13 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

I will have a look into it. --MF-W {a, b} 21:41, 14 October 2012 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! SpartacksCompatriot (talk) 09:35, 29 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Renaming my username

Hello. I'm sorry if this is not the right place to request it, but I request renaming my username:

  • Jewbask → Maor X
  • Confirmation link: [1]
  • Reason: It is my hebrew name

Is there anything you need from me?

Thanks in advance, --Jewbask (talk) 00:47, 14 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Done. --MF-W {a, b} 21:21, 14 October 2012 (UTC)Reply
Thanks!!! Maor X (talk) 01:38, 15 October 2012 (UTC)Reply


hi. I answered to your email.E THP (talk) 10:04, 9 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Thank you very much. --MF-W {a, b} 17:05, 9 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

azb(Incubator:Main Page)

hi. What Reason deletion azb The Incubator:Main Page(These are active and might get their own site soon)With respect.E THP (talk) 07:56, 6 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

can you import ancient greek?

hello can you import ancient greek? it's big enough to be imported,also,it's a very important language — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Benjamin Jiperus (discussioncontribs) 23:07, 11 November 2012 (UTC).Reply

What do you mean? You can find the (test-)Wikipedia in Ancient Greek at Wp/grc. --MF-W {a, b} 16:01, 19 November 2012 (UTC)Reply


hi could I ask for a languge to be create the languge code is hwc http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=hwc please Google9999 (talk) 13:40, 9 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Azb wiki status

Hi, MF-Warburg. Could you please take a look at here?

By the way, We want to know what should we do now? What are the other requirements that are needed for creation the azb wiki?
Also our test wiki doesn't have a analysis page at language Committee? What should we do? We should request or LangCom by itself makes it?
And, is it possible that we know how they make their decision (approximately)?
Arjanizary (talk) 18:32, 13 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Über die altgriechische Wikipedia

Libe/r MF-Warburg, ich möchte Sie fragen, wann die altgriechische Wikipedia schließlich aus Incubator herauskommen wird? Ein bisschen bin ich überrascht, dass wir viele Wikipedien haben, die viel wenigere Artikel als sie beinhalten, sogar kann auch das vorkommen, dass die gothische oder die altenglische Wikipedien an einigen Tagen von keinem benutzt werden - in Gegenteil bearbeiten anonyme Benutzer diese Test-Wikipedia täglich! Darf ich fragen, ob Maßnahmen in dieser Sache je in der Zukunf passieren werden? Danke für die Antwort im Voraus. --Μαρτῖνος ὁ Νέος (talk) 18:29, 5 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Im Moment sieht das leider schlecht aus... die Regeln erlauben die Einrichtung neuer Wikipedias in ausgestorbenen Sprachen im Prinzip nicht. Die gotische und altenglische Wikipedia (die es vor diesen Regeln gab) würden heutzutage daher wohl auch keine Chance haben, erstellt zu werden. — Zur speziellen Problematik der altgriechischen Wikipedia gab es letztes Jahr eine Diskussion im Langcom/Sprachkomitee, ob hier eine Ausnahme gemacht werden kann. Es fand sich aber keine Mehrheit dafür. Ich habe auf m:Talk:Language_committee/2012#Ancient_Greek_Wikipedia auf Englisch einige der Argumente zusammengefasst: Some members were in favour of making an exception from the policy here, and some not. There are good reasons for both opinions, but please note that most prominently, having a Wikipedia in these languages does not help to fulfill Wikipedia's goals, because the absence of a Wikipedia in these languages does not exclude anyone from "freely sharing in the sum of all knowledge". The fact that Latin Wikipedia exists is not of importance here, because it was created before the policy existed. Besides, it was also noted that regarding the current state of the test wiki, it is doubtful whether it would be verified by a linguistic expert as written in genuinely Ancient Greek.. --MF-W {a, b} 15:50, 11 January 2013 (UTC)Reply


Dear MF-Warburg,

Let me first introduce myself. I am an Iranian Azerbaijani, and currently the speaker of the Arbitration Committee (ArbCom) in the Persian Wikipedia.

I am currently active in a test wiki in here. Unfortunately, I found one of the test admins in this project, not neutral. He keeps on pushing his own point of view in some critical articles. He has nationalistic views, and his heart is full of hatred. So hereby, I oppose him to be a test admin. And I request to remove his right, as he is NOT eligible at all. In my opinion, he is very harmful for the test project.

On the contrary, There are two other test admins in that project who are really good, regarding Wikipedia's policies.

Regards, In fact (talk) 07:21, 14 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for the information.)) It's best that you respect the wikipedia policies User talk:In fact#وانداليزم & User talk:In fact#ساختاكارليق.--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 09:23, 14 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hi dear MF-Warburg. He (In fact) originally had a problem with this article name in South Azerbaijani languge. Hi is trying to impose their opinion in unusual ways. For example to impose her personal view in Az.wikipedia, he wrote in Fa.wikipedia [2]. After fa:کاربر:Mardetanha and az:İstifadəçi:Wertuose were meeting in Wikimania 2012. Then the conversation outside of wikipedi, while the discussion is in progress [3], these changes occur [4] [5]. While Wertuose is not present at all in this discussion. I have explained this problem here.))) And now he (In fact) continues his quest here. I wish I could explain it well. Thank you.--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 09:51, 14 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Just to remind you that User:Mardetanha is a steward. He is a very respected Iranian Azerbaijani. I did ask him to stop User:Ebrahimi-amir.
Fortunately, before Mardetanha wants to do anything, one of the admins in Az.wiki stopped you. But now in this test project you are a test admin, and you are doing whatever you want. This can not continue. Someone needs to stop you. In fact (talk) 10:01, 14 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Just to remind you that No one (steward or Arbitration Committee speaker) has the right to abuse their authority to do. And wikipedia is their own problem solving process.--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 10:17, 14 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Indeed ! That's why I wanted to solve the problem the easy way, rather than the hard way. In fact (talk) 10:32, 14 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hi there. I am an Iranian Azerbaijani (from East Azerbaijan) and a former admin in the Persian Wikipedia. I agree with In fact's comments. Ebrahimi-amir is acting like a dictator in our test project and does not accept other users ideas. He is abusing his admin right. I believe if you remove his admin right, it will be good for the Wp/azb project. Thanks. --Elmju (talk) 14:47, 14 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Greetings to you all. Do I understand it correctly that your matter of disagreement is the title of this article; so, about the body of water known as en:Persian Gulf in the English Wikipedia?
Additionally, In fact and Elmju, could you please explain where Ebrahimi-amir took actions here where he abused his test-admin rights against you and your contributions? --MF-W {a, b} 18:08, 14 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Pardon for interruption , but as I'm not familiar with the process of choosing admins in Wikimedia Incubator , I have to ask does a history of ultra-nationalistic edits and constant arguments in other Wikis per se is considered as a problem for being elected as an admin in Incubator? --Alborz Fallah (talk) 19:43, 14 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Please see Incubator:Administrators/Archive/Test adminship 2012#Ebrahimi-amir (Wp/azb) for the request of Ebrahimi-amir to become test-admin for Wp/azb (note that there is a difference between admins and test-admins, which you can read about here). At that times, no concerns about him were raised. --MF-W {a, b} 19:46, 14 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
This is (Fa-wiki friends gathered here to remove the imaginary enemy)the "easy way"[6] to solve hard problems!--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 19:58, 14 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Dear MF-Warburg,

As you know, currently there are 3 test admins in wp/azb. Please kindly have a look at the history of the Persian Gulf article. The other admin ( E THP ) started the article under the correct name and content. But suddenly User:Ebrahimi-amir moved the page to the wrong name !!!. When I corrected the mistake, again he reverted me and moved the page to the wrong name. After that he abused his right as an admin and gave me a warning !!!

If you look at the article's talk page, everybody is against him. ( including the other 2 test admins ) As we are all discussing with him, again he abuses his admin right for the second time : and gives me a second warning!!! and threatens to block me !!!

His actions are all against Wikipedia's guidelines. He is anti-Persian. He is even Allergic to the word itself (Persian) !!! He in not neutral at all. He can not be an admin. as He is not eligible to be one. See, for instance, in another article when I deleted a map that was unsourced and has no relation with pan-farsism. He reverts me and when I ask him for a reason. He simply runs away!!! That map is for Pan Iranism and has nothing to do with Pan-farsism. I asked him to bring a source for the map. But he did not. ( Before I forget, we usally use the revert botton to undo vandalism. I think this test admin does not know this simple rule.)

In another article, (en:Fascism) , He pushes to use a link to pan-farsism. I asked him (easy way) , please stop this kind of behavior in the article's talk page. But again he does not listen to my advice.

Dear MF-Warburg, this test admin is not eligible. Please kindly remove his right. As there are many users opposing him to be a test admin. Not to mention that those who are opposing him here and in the discussions are all Azeris. ( not Persian ). In fact (talk) 11:15, 15 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Indeed this seems a bit abusive to threaten you with a block and to disrespect consensus by the other editors. --MF-W {a, b} 18:31, 15 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Dear MF-Warburg; My user name in Persian Wikipedia is Elmju and in Azeri-Wikipedia is Elmaxtar. I am the first of those who expressed support for the test-Administration of Ebrahimi-amir. but his actions caused me to go back to fa-wiki and use Elmju account! Our problem with Ebrahimi-amir is not only about the name and history of the Persian gulf; He is interested in destroying the name and history of Azerbaijan cities, against the majority of Iranian and international scholars. He supports the idea of Pan-Turkism. Ebrahimi-amir does not accept other users ideas and he thinks that he is the only one who knows the best! He thinks that he is the law-book and all of the researchers in the world are liars! --Elmaxtar (talk) 11:33, 15 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

His block log in the English Wikipedia and in the Persian Wikipedia

He has been blocked many times, for different reasons and by different admins. In fact (talk) 11:52, 15 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hello, As a Persian Wikipedia bureaucrat and an Iranian Azeri I think his abuses of sysop rights is obvious. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with process of de-electing sysops but if i did, probably i would do it Ladsgroup (talk) 15:48, 15 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

@ ALL: I have started a section on I:A for contributors of Wp/azb to comment on whether they think Ebrahimi-amir should continue to be a test.sysop: I:A#Ebrahimi-amir, wp/azb (Removal). Please comment there, if you are involved in the test; otherwise refrain from comments. --MF-W {a, b} 18:31, 15 January 2013 (UTC)Reply


I'm so sorry but I should inform you that Elmju (also Elmaxtar-other account of Elmju) use hate speech here[7] with E_THP, with me(=Arjanizary) here[8], with Ebrahimi-Amir here[9]. I always want to make him calm (See my talk page, after he used such bad words I call him with good words). In taht time, I wish he became calm but he doesn't. I don't care to his bad words about me, but when I see he does this work everywhere and toward everybody.
Note: His admin rights in Persian Wikipedia removed because of his hate speech[10]. As I menthined he lose his temper very quickly and write anything he wants to everybody. Please read what he does against other users. Regards. --Arjanizary (talk) 20:18, 16 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Well, sorry, but unfortunately I do not know the Azerbaijani language, so I can't understand it. You already know that user Elmju and Elmaxtar were blocked by E THP? --MF-W {a, b} 20:36, 16 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
He said that E THP drank wine! and he(=E THP) doesn't understand what he do. He named E HTP pan-Turk. He write in persian.
At first he come wiki he change sth, I said please stop, it's according to some rules that is under discussion, it's better not to change it. Then he said that I don't understand. I make him calm and that time I think it's a simple problem. If you refer to that link to wiki-fa you see that he threat the other user that because he doesn't accept his(=Elmju) opinion, he annoys him. His faults menthined there.

I (2 times) Ebrahimi (2 times) and E HTP remind him to stop such thing. These occurred in short time. It's not just about Persian Gulf article. He changes something against South Azerbaijani grammar and accepted rules. I think He(=E HTP)'d beeter ask you to block him, but Elmju use so bad words about him. Thanks --Arjanizary (talk) 20:57, 16 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

HI, There is no hate speech and that is fraudulent charge . Ebrahimi Amir, Amir57, EHTP and possibly Arjanizary (not sure) are all part of the same group of ethno-nationalist users running basically a mafia style gang. It is the same users that came to vote for Ebrahimi amir not to be reprimanded. Thee first three Ebrahimi Amir, Amir57, EHTP have been blocked several times in Persian wikipedia for pushing ethno-nationalistic nonsense and sites that have no credibility. Amir 57 recently got blocked in Persian wikipedia for racially abusing Kurds. Basically, they are running an ethno-nationalistic gang group. Users do not get blocked for being SPA for no reason in English Wikipedia or get blocked in Persian wikipedia multiple types. There is underlying behavior due to ethno-nationalistic type editing and that is why these users cause trouble and are trouble. The block against Elmju is absolutely illegal and EHTP needs to be reprimanded as well. These users are just abusing their power. Please unblock Elmju so that he can explain it better himself. I have no doubt that if both sides are able to present their point of view, the abusers here will get reprimanded. Thank you. --Khodabandeh14 (talk) 02:12, 17 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

About "easy way group"

Hi dear MF-Warburg! I want wright about "easy group". Who are they? What is their purpose?

Ladsgroup, Khodabandeh14, In fact, Alborz Fallah, Elmju and others who are not present here.

Elmju write that a administrator of faWiki has recommended him for something based on a certain map. And he try for greate Iran.[11]. Khodabandeh14 distort resource to achieve a specific objective [12]. He removed parts of a text, others are accused of lying. "the villages in which the inhabitants speak Persian, one sees villages in which the people speak Turkish, and many Persian cities, such as Tehran or Shiraz or Qazvin or Hamadan, are surrounded on all sides by Turkish villages or tribes ; indeed, the people of the latter two cities undestand both languages and speak both of them".

In fact writes about meeting with en:Pirouz Mojtahedzadeh about article name.

Who is Pirouz Mojtahedzadeh? He believes that:

"Sometimes we hear some dire things from Azerbaijan that shows the influence of Pan-Turkism ideas. Some people say that the lessons should be taught in Turkish language in Schools of Azerbaijan region. This shows the spreading of racist thoughts. Don't these people ask from themselves that in which multi-ethnical country, teaching in states are done in local language? That Iran should be the second?" Ettelaat newspaper, 1377/10/22, No. 22106

M.Afshar (he is one of the founders of Pan Iranism) believes that:

"...But by talking of completing national unity, we mean that the Persian language should be widespread in all country, local differences in clothes, ethics and other aspecs, should be wiped out and the Federation system have to be completely destroyed. Kurds, Lurs, Qashqays, Arabs, Turks, Turkmens and others must not have any differences, they must not wear different clothes and talk in different languages...

... So we all must want and try that the Persian language become widespread in all country and replace outsider languages...

... We can move some persian-speaking people to the outsider-speaking regions and reside them there in villages and in exchange move the outsider-speaking people of there to persian-speaking regions. The geographical names that are remnants of outsider languages and the invasions of Genghis khan and Timur, must be changed to Persian names." M. Afshar, Our first wish: Natianal unity of Iranians, Ayandeh, 1 (Khordad 1304)

en:Jalal Al-e-Ahmad describe these ideas:

"But they don't have the right to speak in their mother tongue on Art, Culture, Public media and Communications sections. They have to use Persian. This mean that the use of their mother tongue in Schools, Radio, TV and other Media and on governmental messagings are forbidden. From the beginning of this hijri century onwards, the regime of Tehran tried to make the people of all country look alike... and now it's been more that forty years that all efforts of all governments are focused on wiping out Turkish language; they named it 'Azeri', a forced language." در خدمت و خیانت روشنفکران، جلال آل احمد، به نقل از مجله وارلیق، بهار سال 1368، شماره 72، ص9-27

You can read more information in "Iran and the Challenge of Diversity: Islamic Fundamentalism, Aryanist Racism, and Democratic Struggles." Alireza Asgharzadeh, Palgrave Macmillan, May 15, 2

Accordingly, I think that this group is trying that the wp/azb project (that is written in a language South Azerbaijani), weaken or abrogate. With respect--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 16:23, 18 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Yes Sir Ebrahimi it is written the right They Want to overthrow the wiki azb And they take it records indicate that the user has az in Wikipedia that they have been unable to impose their beliefs [13]and [14]--Amir a57(دانیشیق) 18:43, 18 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

@User:Ebrahimi-amir : Instead of attacking others, try to defend your own actions. Your actions in our test wiki project are POV pushing.
@User:Amir a57 : Try to be independent. You know that I love our test project and I want the best for it. ( That's why I am trying to bring neutrality in wp/azb ) In fact (talk) 04:00, 19 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Dear MF-Warburg, We ( the so called easy way group !!! ) only have one thing in common ; Opposing User:Ebrahimi-amir. On the contrary, recently I have had some tough discussions with some of these users in the Persian Wikipedia. Such as this one with User:Elmju about the decision of the ArbCom and this one with User:Alborz Fallah about Azerbaijan!. I should say that all these things User:Ebrahimi-amir is mentioning are pointless. He just wants to run away from this mess he has made. In fact (talk) 06:01, 19 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Ebrahimi-amir is right. This group focused in particular article or particular user. Does not seems that the purpose of this group is to improve Wikipedia. Instead, they have created a disruption in Wikipedia. Please help us in solving this problem. Thanks E THP (talk) 20:39, 19 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Yes. Wikipedia has disrupted the work of this groups.--Amir a57(دانیشیق) 20:51, 19 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Dear Friends,
This is a free encyclopedia, anybody can contribute, even the IPs. We shouldn't be afraid of comments. Any comment that is reasonable will be considered. So please keep calm.
We shouldn't forget that the problems of POV pushing that I have already mentioned, still exist in our test wiki project, such as calling a group of people as fascists, while this mentioned group is not even recognized by the international project. and the other problems that I really don't want to mention them again. Sadly, they all still exist. In fact (talk) 04:55, 20 January 2013 (UTC)Reply


Hi dear MF-Warburg. Please see here.[15] I am independent user, and you can my contributions. [16] and سوزجوکلر . just because my Native language is not English, I have no desire to debate the long-term .Thanks.--Amir a57(دانیشیق) 20:57, 20 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

One question

Hi dear MF-Warburg! I have a question. User:In fact contempt me in here and User:Elmju in here (Both in Farsi Wikipedia). What should I do about it? Thanks--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 20:59, 21 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Dear Ebrahimi-amir, You are not right! Even if you think you are, you can take it to the admins' notice board in the Persian Wikipedia. They will surely observe your case. In fact (talk) 05:15, 24 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
I think I'm right. The discussion is not related to the Farsi Wikipedia.)) It is necessary to translate your writings?--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 05:48, 26 January 2013 (UTC)Reply


Could you tell me who is the "expert" that you mentioned here? Thank you! SpartacksCompatriot (talk) 10:50, 23 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Well, I have contacted two linguists. We have now received a reply from Catherine Fortin who verified the content. Passing approval of the Board, the request for min.wikipedia will therefore soon be approved. Cheers, --MF-W {a, b} 09:43, 25 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

New Wikisource creation question

Hi, I'm interested in launching Javanese Wikisource as a standalone project. Now, from what I know creating a new Wikisource is somewhat different from creating other projects. What are the requirements to launch meta:Requests for new languages/Wikisource Javanese? It used to have a strong community but dwindled due to slow response from the language committee. There are many Javanese text in public domain (the language have the most written documents compared to other languages in Indonesia, bar the national language itself, dating several centuries back, even before the "creating" of Indonesian language, Javanese language is the most widely spoken/written language in the East Indies), so there won't be any problem in finding any texts (see argument in favour #1). Is the notice on the top of the page still stands? "The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page." or is there other requirements? It leaves me wonder that for 4 years no one from the language committee bother to look at old request, even to ask how is it doing [17]. Bennylin (talk) 14:28, 29 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi, indeed the activity that was there in 2008 was quite good. Because I was not yet in Langcom in 2008, I am not familiar with why there was no approval back then. However, I do notice that the main activity seems to have concentrated in 3 months, and all was mainly done by one user only. This could've been a factor that it was not approved.
It is indeed true "that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy". The newer version of the template (visible e.g. here specifies It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months. For Wikisource, these requirements can at times be taken a bit lighter, because Wikisource texts e.g. require less updating than Wikipedia or Wikinews.
If there would be activity again I'd be most glad to propose the approval of jv.wikisource in Langcom.
However I would like to add that in my opinion, Wikisource languages on www.wikisource.org have a great advantage (to e.g. test-wikipedias on Incubator): Because www.wikisource does not require prefixes like we do, it should be easier accessible & editable already for new users. Maybe also the advice on m:Talk:Language_committee#Javanese_Wikisource could be taken into account to use the ProofreadPage function for adding content? --MF-W {a, b} 22:54, 30 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Here's a list from third party website of the texts in Javanese language http://masbei.staff.fs.uns.ac.id/2010/05/04/katalog-ysastra/, about 6.000 documents and 15 million words that have been digitized. One of Javanese first encyclopedia in 1898 numbered 1.930 pages, so you can imagine the amount of knowledge available in the form of old documents. I'm sure it would have more content than, say, recently approved Wikisource Assamese. Could someone from the langcom comment on the page? I'm currently also working on making Javanese script available in Wikimedia projects so that it can aid this proposal. Please support this proposal in the future. Bennylin (talk) 12:32, 31 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for your response. I will try to find others contributors to the project. It's still preferable to be an independent project, because of the wealth of documents and other benefits of a standalone project. (such as community, interface, robot, etc.) ꦩ​ꦠꦸꦂꦤꦸꦮꦸꦤ꧀ Bennylin (talk) 11:55, 31 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I have no doubts that the project can have a lot of content and be useful. It's just that we require that there be active contributors when it is approved to ensure that the own wiki will not fall into inactivity :) --MF-W {a, b} 15:35, 31 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
I agree with you there and would indeed try to find old and new contributors for the project. But as for the measurement itself ("ensure ... not fall into inactivity"), doesn't the committee at least learn from experience that the number of active users while in Incubator doesn't guarantee once its out from it? Moreso for non-Wikipedia projects. For example meta:Wikisource#List of Wikisources sorted by number of active users (most of them are bots and global patroller anyway). It is better to have one committed user rather than dozens of uncommitted ones (I'm ready to be the former). Also, from personal experience with Indonesian and Wiktionary, people started to coming in and contribute after there's content for them to read and edit, because truth be told, the barrier entry for new users here to create new articles (i.e. in Wikisource or Wiktionary using wiki format) is rather high, and time and cost-wise can only be afforded by very few people. Just sharing another interesting fact: en:List of languages without official status. Bennylin (talk) 16:36, 31 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Also, still on the subject of possible inactivity of any given project out of Incubator, "inactivity" itself is not a valid reason to close a project, thus the reason there are so many inactive projects, yet have a lot of pagecount, right now. Therefore, I was wondering, what does the langcom have against possible future inactivity, which, as I said above, is a matter of fact once it is outside the "honeymoon" phase in Incubator. I could, theoretically, ask people to be active for several weeks/months, knowing that they wouldn't be as active anymore in this project afterward, just to get the project out. Nobody can guarantee any project will maintain at least 3 (or any other number) of active users at any time in the future. Bennylin (talk) 16:47, 31 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
I agree with you that a small number of committed users is better than lots of users who just fly by, and that it is easier for new users to contribute on an own wiki, than Incubator or BetaWikiversity or www.wikisource; and indeed the committee also takes such things into account. By no means do we want to require that you need to have a large number of editors before. — Indeed you are right that the activity can easily be "faked" to start a project. Likewise it cannot be guaranteed that a number of users will stay active in the future. But nevertheless we would like to have a minimum number of users (2? 3?) who are active initally, (of which we of course hope that they will stay active) to build some content on which users who appear later on the own wiki can base (as you mention above). --MF-W {a, b} 19:10, 2 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Minangkabau Wikipedia

Hello, MF-Warburg! Thank you for agreeing request of Minangkabau Wikipedia. Approximately how long min.wikipedia.org will be created at Bugzilla and imported from Incubator? SpartacksCompatriot (talk) 03:29, 30 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Unfortunately I do not know this; it will be done by a developer at a date which is not known to me before. --MF-W {a, b} 22:56, 30 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Usually, how long it takes? SpartacksCompatriot (talk) 16:06, 2 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
You can look up in the bugzilla requests linked on I:SCL how long the time was there between the creation of the bug and the creation of the project. --MF-W {a, b} 19:12, 2 February 2013 (UTC)Reply


My Dear Mr.MF-Warburg, my test-adminship for wp/khw is expiring today. I want to continue my Test-Adminship. I still need the tools and request your goodself that may test adminship my kindly be renewed.

  • Sir, the User:Khowaracademy is not related to me. The Khowar Academy is the Literary Association working in language and culture documentation in chitral Pakistan and published many books in khowar language including my 15 books on languages, education and cultures. The academy published my 40 khowar language books, urdu books, primers, and other books on language and cultures. your goodself may kindly see the details of books and read the books online on the following link http://www.scribd.com/khowaracademy --Rehmat Aziz Chitrali 04:14, 31 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Jamguides imports to Wikivoyage

Hi - at Incubator:Wikivoyage_import, you mention importing content. This needs to be done very carefully - when it was done on the pt and es wikivoyage editions, for instance, it was done without attribution. That's a violation of the cc-by-sa license. So we need to really think this through... Philippe (WMF) (talk) 00:06, 5 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

This astonishes me very much that you say it happened without attribution - attribution is of course very important and the main reason of doing an import (instead of e.g. simple copy-paste actions). And therefore on pt and es wikivoyage I have always imported the full history, e.g. [18]. --MF-W {a, b} 00:12, 5 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
There is a discussion about this in the Travellers' Pub on English Wikivoyage. There, the example of voy:pt:Dallas was given. See here [19], only JAMBot seems to appear in the page history. Globe-trotter (talk) 22:48, 8 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
Oh, that was a fail of the exporting tool that sometimes occured. I actually thought I had fixed all those (example); I have now done that for the Dallas page as well. Are there any more? --MF-W {a, b} 23:03, 8 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
I think voy:User:Texugo knows more for the Portuguese language version. Globe-trotter (talk) 23:05, 8 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Sanskrit Wikiquote

Hello, thank you for everything you did.At present I am not finding any other problem except that I cannot write in Devanagari ie 'Ctrl M' is not working. Please look into this. One more thing I want to ask - Is it possible to transfer contributions ?

Did you ask me to translate this line to English ?
One revision व्यत्यासः (984439) was न दृष्टः । कारणम् अत्र दृश्यते ।
- Cannot find one revision. Reason is shown here.
- Shubha (talk) 05:02, 7 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
I am unable to write the category. It does not display that option. Please see.
It was forgotten to enable the Ctrl-M feature. This will now be done, you can track the progress here.
Yes, the translation request was some time ago for a deletion request you had made. But you had already given a translation on the page which was deleted then :-)
About categories: You can now enable HotCat in sa:q:Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. --MF-W {a, b} 22:11, 7 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hi, In puzzle section [[20]] there is one thing to be corrected. Here the answer should be hidden. Only after a click one should be able to see the answer. Will you please look into that ?
Is it possible to transfer all our contributions from incubator to sa.wikiquote ? Thank you. - Shubha (talk) 12:32, 11 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
I have made a change in the template for the answers so that it is hidden by default again.
Actually all contributions from Incubator have been imported to sa.wikiquote, see e.g. sa:q:Special:Contributions/Vibhijain. --MF-W {a, b} 15:38, 11 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Sorry for disturbing you again. But I could not find imported contributions of all members of our group - SumanaKoundinya, Sbblr geervaanee, Shubha, ‎Bhaskar Bhatt Joshi, e.g. sa:q:Special:Contributions/Bhaskar Bhatt Joshi. Will you please tell me how to get it ? - Shubha (talk) 09:37, 13 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

It seems to me that this might be an error which needs to be fixed by a software maintenance script. I will look into it and inform you if I add a bugzilla request to fix it. --MF-W {a, b} 10:59, 15 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Question about Wikivoyage Ukrainian request

Hi MF-Warburg! Thank you for bread crumb. We'll test it soon. I have a question about request. We need to fill "Enable uploads" field in the request. Which possibilities do we have - the answer should be only "yes" or "no", or we can use something like "yes, but for admins and uploaders group only" (you can see that WP editors are choosing such version at our Project Talk page). Voll (talk) 19:49, 7 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Yes, it's possible to request it like that. --MF-W {a, b} 22:12, 7 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Wikivoyage importing

Don't take this as a criticism; I'm just wondering: isn't the importing over at the Polish Wikivoyage taking an inordinately long time to finish? Why is this? Do you forsee the Romanian Wikivoyage taking a similar amount of time? I ask because I was waiting until these imports were finished to announce the opening of the wikis at Wikimedia News. Should I not be waiting? - dcljr (talk) 05:01, 15 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Yes, it's taking a bit longer than what is usual and actually acceptable, but there are ca. 2700 pages to import for pl in total so that is taking some time. Romanian will not take so long because there are only 600 pages import. I think it's right not to announce the opening until the import is finished, which will hopefully be today (I should have the time for that). --MF-W {a, b} 10:58, 15 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
It was anounced on incubator it (ro and pl) was open (for editing) long before the articles were imported. Maybe they should not do that way. Any way thanks for doing the job. Carsrac (talk) 16:39, 24 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

User page

Hi dear MF-Warburg! Can each user write anything on his user page?--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 17:36, 16 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

No; spam, libel, and generally content which is unrelated to the Wikimedia projects should be avoided. --MF-W {a, b} 22:58, 16 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hi again and thank you for your answer. I'm still unexplained. Can write misinformation (like the In fact block), contempt for others (without being able to defend the same place), indecency and ets in user page? Are these actions related to the goals of Wikipedia projects? Can administrator or users remove the content like this from user pages?--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 04:52, 17 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
I think blocking a person because of his writhings in his own user page is an example of power abuse and intolerance . I can give an English translation if it is in need . If other side thinks my translation is not valid , I can ask others to translate it . Although the Google Translator gives a broken translation , but it is still obvious that I did not write something out of norms in that page. Tolerance and open mindness are basic needs of being an admin in Wikipedia. --Alborz Fallah (talk) 10:08, 17 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
@Ebrahimi-amir: In general such stuff should be avoided. But if there are disagreements between users, it might happen that one user writes something about his point of view on his userpage which others already see as an inacceptable attack. In the case of Alborz Fallah's page, I looked into the content with Google Translate, which obviously does not give a correct translation but allows to get the gist of the text; and I could not see any indecency there. Of course you might disagree with the things he said about the working of Southern Azerbaijani test wiki, such conflicts can be discussed on talk pages. — If you feel that a user should be blocked for personal attacks, please come to the administrators' noticeboard to bring such a matter up. --MF-W {a, b} 23:10, 17 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
I wrote about this in here and here. After the user insists on the edit was blocked by another administrator. I want him to translate the writing in English. It seems that user did not understand its meaning(Apparently he does not understand South Azerbaijani Turkish).--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 05:04, 18 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
I asked User Ebrahimi ( and others ) to write in my talk page in English : In the pervious encounters I could not prove my point of view because no other Admin can understand South Azerbaijani . I do understood Ebrahimi's demand for English translation in that language, but I didn't translate it because I think the abuse is pretty clear . Still I can give a translation if MF-Warburg asks .Alborz Fallah (talk) 15:42, 18 February 2013 (UTC)Reply


Hi, MF-Warburg. I want to know about wikivoyage in other languages. How can we create other languages version? Is Arabic wikivoyage exist? RX --Arjanizary (talk) 10:18, 2 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

You can see the current list of Wikivoyages which have an own wiki on [21]. New ones can be created through the usual process of an Incubator test wiki etc. An Arabic Wikivoyage test project exists at Wy/ar. --MF-W {a, b} 15:08, 2 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. --Arjanizary (talk) 17:49, 4 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Protecting some pages

Hi, I want not to let IPs to change some important pages at Wp/azb. Because they're South Azerbaijani orthography rules that changing them not related to us. Only linguists can do that. These days some attacks was occurring and returning them to true status takes us many time. I'll be thankful if you help me. RX. --Arjanizary (talk) 15:26, 10 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Please mention the IPs, edits and pages. --MF-W {a, b} 15:54, 10 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
This is the history of the page that is related to orthography of South Azerbaijani. The IP also mentioned there. [22] --Arjanizary (talk) 13:40, 11 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Ok, I see that has now happened once there, if it recurs, we can think about a protection. --MF-W {a, b} 19:17, 11 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. I'll inform you if see any other action. --Arjanizary (talk) 15:59, 12 March 2013 (UTC)Reply


Hi, MF-Warburg

We have the problems at Wp/azb that was better to solve them before. Anyhow we want to solve them now. These are also caused complaining about removing Ebrahimi-amir test-admin rights. At that time I was soft oppose because I thought he changes his attitude toward other users. Unfortunately he uses his dictatorship. He changes the articles without talking at talk pages but if we do that work he suppose it as editing war! And in all conditions we don't agree each other his changes remains.

  1. Azerbaijan
    1. آذربایجان
    2. آزربایجان
  2. Persian Gulf
    1. فارس کؤرفزی
    2. کنگر کؤرفزی

Although the No.1 is used for several years in Printed Books, Ebrahimi-amir use No.2. He also himself said that the word No.2 used recently. We refer to printed books in Tabriz. About the his references I can say they're almost not reliable. Because of not being enough famous. Also that websites are forums or Pan-Turks and separatists. Neither they're are famous news agency nor research based website. RX--Arjanizary (talk) 14:21, 11 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Note: My claim is not removing Ebrahimi-amir test-admin rights. If he changes his attitude (Especially towards above articles), it won't be needed. --Arjanizary (talk) 03:15, 13 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
I strongly agree with User:Arjanizary. I think assuming good faith is no longer a good choice regarding User:Ebrahimi-amir.
With many Regards, In fact (talk) 09:13, 12 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

MF-Warburg is familiar with my case . I had multiple blocks just because of my different points of views with User:Ebrahimi-amir and his small group of supporters. I did not asked for any interference because I thought it was not positive to slow down an active member like Ebrahimi ; but now I can see it ended up in turning this Wiki project to an intolerant non neutral blog with tunnel vision . I do think we need a more mature and more open minded test-admin that is not hot-tempered and is more tolerant. Without sacrificing that active test admin , the prosperity of Wp/azb would be in jeopardy and the participants would be few . Thank you , --Alborz Fallah (talk) 22:06, 12 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Who informed you about this? --Arjanizary (talk) 03:15, 13 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Your concern is about canvassing , but no , this page is on my Watchlist because I have an open conversation here . --Alborz Fallah (talk) 10:52, 13 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi all, thanks for bringing this up. I see that Ebrahimi-amir was notified, but has not edited since then. Before doing something, I of course would like to hear his opinion too. So let's wait until he is back to editing here. Thanks. --MF-W {a, b} 17:53, 13 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi. "He changes the articles without talking at talk pages". Please show your document. All these issues have been discussed. If the results argue against your opinion is not my problem. For exmal in "کنگر کورفزی" I wrote:

"يئنيدن سالاملار. من سيزين جاوابينيزدا جيمبو والسين يازديغين يازيرام:

From Jimbo Wales, paraphrased from a September 2003 post on the WikiEN-l mailing list:

If a viewpoint is in the majority, then it should be easy to substantiate it with reference to commonly accepted reference texts;
If a viewpoint is held by a significant minority, then it should be easy to name prominent adherents;
If a viewpoint is held by an extremely small (or vastly limited) minority, it does not belong in Wikipedia regardless of whether it is true or not and regardless of whether you can prove it or not, except perhaps in some ancillary article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WEIGHT#Undue_weight"

I wanted him to fix the problem, ask for an independent admin. http://incubator.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wp/azb/%DA%A9%D9%86%DA%AF%D8%B1_%DA%A9%D8%A4%D8%B1%D9%81%D8%B2%DB%8C&diff=prev&oldid=1119506

For "آزربایجان" please see Talk:Wp/azb/گونئی آزربایجان and http://incubator.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wp/azb/%DA%AF%D9%88%D9%86%D8%A6%DB%8C_%D8%A2%D8%B2%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%86&action=history

How can claim that I am not involved in discussions!!?? If your interests do not coincide with the results of the discussions, it does not concern me. Thanks--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 06:18, 15 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

It seems that Arjanizary to write them affect others. fa:بحث کاربر:Arjanizary#نامه سرگشاده and fa:بحث کاربر:Arjanizary#ویکی‌‌ ترکی آذربایجانی (رسم الخط عربی) and fa:بحث کاربر:Arjanizary#لطفا نگاهی بفرمایید and fa:بحث کاربر:In fact#جواب and fa:بحث کاربر:In fact#لطفا در ویکی انکوباتور به بلوک شدن بنده اشاره کنید ...

I asked him several times to discuss the issues in place and not be influenced by others. But unfortunately it continues.--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 06:40, 15 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

I want to categorize my claims:

1- Azerbaijan:

I- The standard Azeri Turkish in arabic script [23] (Download pdf, see page 11, part 8/9. Word آذربایجان‌شوناس)
He also accept this seminars standarization and usually refer to this but about Azerbaijan he doesn't.
II- A printed book in Iran, Iranian Turks history by famous native author Mohammadtaghi Zahtabi (and he also knows him [24])
III- Three users out of 5 active users of azb vote for "آذربایجان". [25]
IV- The references he mentioned (although they're not reliable) used both of them.
...- More printed books (include dictionaries, history books, grammar books) use "آذربایجان" (I write them at talk page here)

2- Persian Gulf:

I- The 2nd reference of above claim.
II- In Iran Azerbaijan (South Azerbaijan) 99.99% of people know "فارس" and about less than 0.01% know it "کنگر" (If other users want we can go together and ask people about this.)

3- His changes without ask others:(This cause others not to participate at Azb test wiki.)

I- Azerbaijan Islamic Party: See here. At first I create this article. Then he change without any talk at talk page. Then I returned it to previous status. Again He returned. Then I start talk at talk page in order not to involve in edit war. I refered to reliable sources. We don't use that word. We use "حزب" instead of that. "Partia" used in Azerbaijan Republic. If we want to use Turkic word we can use "توپلولوق" that I give reliable references for that at talk page.
II- Persian Gulf: See here

I reduced some cliam because I'm busy both in real life and Wy/ar. --Arjanizary (talk) 08:18, 15 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

The problem is not just between you and me and can not be solved this way.)) I disagree with you. I've sufficient reasons in the article talk page. You can write discussion on the article talk page and look forward to your reply to other users.)) The statistic is not correct. For example, thousands of Tractor fans repeatedly chanting "Arabic Gulf" have said. Statistics show your own thinking and our decision is not based on the content of users' personal beliefs. --Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 09:10, 15 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

" We don't use that word." Here the "we" who are they? پارتیا used in South Azerbaijani for "partiya" or "party" and توپلولوق no relevance to this thread.)) Unfortunately, you're an alien South Azerbaijani literature and It has been noted by other users as you.--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 09:28, 15 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

There user:Amir a57 has rightly asked:

Please give reasons about not accepting books and Standard Azeri in Arabic script? Why you yourself changed it? Only "آذربایجان" menthioned there!!!

About Amir a57, I think he should talk here about his claims. Although he is not here to defend himself (and I don't like to talk about him) I answered ther. "Please look carefully that Ebrahimi-amir changes the article not me."

Also you follow double standards. To refering to google searhes you don't agree when I searche both "کنگر کؤرفزی" & "فارس کؤرفزی" you don't accept and you seached "کنگر کؤرفزی"+"فارس"+... . But when we refer to latin Azeri you don't agree. --Arjanizary (talk) 12:31, 15 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Not be drawn because the Azeri Wikipedia article Gulf Arabic script or whatever is name after the name of the paper, draw a line in Arabic or Persian Gulf. Vicky is Azeri Latin alphabet run by users who live in Azerbaijan and have access to its resources They have different resources and sources of Southern Azerbaijan is right for you ھەولێرHeh Vlyr Arbil in Kurdish is called--Amir a57(دانیشیق) 20:53, 15 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
About the talk pages and how talk pages are used in this test Wiki I can mention some examples : In this edit , the test admin says "آد اوچون منجه قایناق لازیم دئییل البت کی ویکیده هرنه اوچون قایناق لازیم دئییل مثل باکی آزربایجان جمهوریتین باش‌کندی دیر بونا قایناق لازیم دئییل بو دا کی آزربایجان آدی نه اولسون تانیش اولان آدلار قایداسینا گرک باخا سیز " that means " There is no need of sources for the names , Wikipedia does not needs sources for all things , as there is no need of a source for Baku being the capital of Republic of Azerbaijan and that does not needs soruces and about the name of Azerbaijan , a person who is familiar with the [dictation] rules of the names have to say the last word . In answer , I show many examples from the most prominant poet of Azerbaijan ( Shariyar ) that he used the آذربایجان dictation , and in response , other user wrote : "بورا تهرانین «میدان گمرک» محلله سی دئیل.بورا علم اوجاغیدیر و عالیملرین یئریدر. لوطفاً «میدان گمرک» سوییه سینده دانیشان «داش مشدی» - لرین بورادا " that means " here is not Gomrok square of Tehran , here is a place for scientists and wise people , please do not talk like the mobs of Gomrok squre ... ( Gomrok square is a bad name suburb of Tehran that the stolen cars and other goods are being sold there )--Alborz Fallah (talk) 07:08, 16 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
More than that , User Ebrahimi keeps to ask me not to write in talk pages because my dictation in South Azerbajani is not good , and says my edits in talk pages are vandalism because I can't write in standard south Azeri . I want to ask then why he and other users like Amir a57 themselves write in English language talk pages when their English is much more weaker than my south Azeri ?! Are they Vandals too!? Is there any rule about not edithing in talk pages without standard language ? --Alborz Fallah (talk) 07:21, 16 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Request for early approval of Wp/khw Khowar Wikipedia

I request to the approval Committee for the early approval of Wp/khw. What we must to do for approval Wp/khw? Some users in wp/khw Wiki ask me. As I see, the activity of wp/khw is positive, but the approval is still under "discussion", not still "finalized"... So, i request for early approval of this wiki Thanks--User:Mirajbibi Contributor 06:02, 12 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Reply requested

at m:User talk:MF-Warburg#Hallo 21:48, 15 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Fixed the link (Meta, not this wiki). I replied some days ago. --MF-W {a, b} 01:17, 24 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

New Test wiki administrator

While I can delete pages of articles (like this), the message:

Warning: you're about to delete a page outside of your test wiki(s)! Remember the policy: If you delete something outside your test, be prepared to defend your actions or your test-administrator privilege may be revoked.

appears when I try to delete Category pages. Is it ok if I delete Category pages of this test wiki (Wy/el)?-- Alien ? 16:09, 24 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Yes, certainly. Normally the warning should not appear; I will try to remove it. --MF-W {a, b} 16:42, 24 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
The problem was solved. Now warnings will not appear for Categories and Templates anymore. --MF-W {a, b} 17:02, 24 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
It's ok now. Thanks for the help.-- Alien ? 17:05, 24 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

ukvoy search

Hi, MF-Warburg! Tips in search aren't working in Ukrainian Wikivoyage. Does it require time to begin working or it is a bug? --RLuts (talk) 13:43, 30 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

I think it will just take some time to set up. --MF-W {a, b} 16:59, 30 March 2013 (UTC)Reply


Hello, did you see my answer in Lezgi-WP? ;) --Soul Train (talk) 06:16, 2 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Sure, I see everything ;-) --MF-W {a, b} 11:04, 2 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Spanish Wikivoyage creation date

Hello, MF-Warburg. I was checking Wy/es and I found it states it was created on 2012. Could you change it to 2013? Thank you. RalgisWM-CR 16:50, 2 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Sure. Done. Thanks for reporting this. --MF-W {a, b} 16:53, 2 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

About on Wp/AZB articels

Hi dear MF-Warburg! After months of trying, I'm sorry to hear the views of languages committee about AZB Wikipedia [26] . I hope this view will change.

I had a question about the articles created on Wikipedia (There are no articles in the Azerbaijani Wikipedia). They will import? Or Do we have to manually do it?--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 16:08, 3 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Note:MF-Warburg, could you please write the reason(s) of this. We are going to solve the remaining problems. Thanks in advance. --Arjanizary (talk) 13:46, 5 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hi. I think it's difficult to summarize everything (and maybe not everything can be solved), but I will try. Await it in the next days. --MF-W {a, b} 01:04, 6 April 2013 (UTC)Reply


Thanks a lot for helping! ;-) Bye. Chelin (talk) 19:42, 4 April 2013 (UTC)Reply


Hello, MF-Warburg and sorry for my later answer. I have read your message at meta.wiki... so, I feel a bit upset. Unfortunately I don't know someone who can verify content and how to contact them. I think you won't taking us on trust. Then we will wait some longer.

And if not a secret, did you ask for verification linguists/experts from Livonian Cultural Centre? or from Tartu University? Maybe they can help?--Nuclear Star (talk) 19:26, 6 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi, thanks for your answer. It's not secret, I can tell they were not among those we contacted. We will do that now, thanks for pointing to them. And, I just want to make it clear that you, contributors, do not need to contact them at all for verification. This is the job of Langcom; but we're grateful if you can give us some help in pointing out some possible people. – We do trust you. So far a final verification never ended up negatively. Thanks --MF-W {a, b} 04:29, 7 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Test-adminship on Wt/vec

I thought about it, but since there are only about thirty pages to move... however, if you prefer, I could ask for the flag. PS: On vec.wiki we have some pages to transfer to wiktionary, in your opinion is better to wait the opening of vec.wikt or transfer them now?--GatoSelvadego (talk) 16:44, 11 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Ok, thanks.--GatoSelvadego (talk) 10:27, 12 April 2013 (UTC)Reply


Hi dear MF-Warburg. I could not find this discussed http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incubator:Administrators#Ebrahimi-amir.2C_wp.2Fazb_.28Removal.29 in the archives. Do you know where it is archived?--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 06:53, 15 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Here: Incubator:Administrators/Archive/Test adminship 2013 --MF-W {a, b} 13:03, 15 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks.--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 14:49, 15 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

How long in Incubator

May I disturb you? I wonder how long a test project in Incubator is active enough to approve? in case of Vietnamese Wikivoyage (Wy/vi). Thanks.--Cheers! (talk) 02:50, 26 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Generally, as you can read on the info in the template on m:Requests for new languages/Wikivoyage Vietnamese, "It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months." — I will have a look at the active test-projects at the end of the month, and will propose those in the Language Committee which from my point of view can be approved. Best regards --MF-W {a, b} 00:29, 27 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for you reply. I have one more question about the sysop on Vietnamese Wikivoyage. Whenever the project is approved, is it need Sysops? We start to discuss at here for sysop right, is it right way? or can we propose a bureaucrat? Best wishes.--Cheers! (talk) 07:15, 2 May 2013 (UTC)--Cheers! (talk) 07:15, 2 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

History merge

Hi. Please merge the history of this page in this page and delete the first page. Thanks a lot. --Elmaxtar (talk) 14:37, 30 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Impossible, they clash historically. --MF-W {a, b} 16:40, 30 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Longest Record

Most probably w.Punjabi Wikiquote has the longest record to be positively active in Incubator but still not approved. It is active since March 2011 (http://toolserver.org/~pathoschild/catanalysis/?cat=0&title=wq/pnb&wiki=incubatorwiki_p) and we can be proud of it with mixed feelings. And if we are approved, with 263 pages in the company of 89 Wikiquotes Family we will be on 44th position. --Khalid Mahmood (talk) 20:55, 30 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Forced user renames coming soon for SUL

Hi, sorry for writing in English. I'm writing to ask you, as a bureaucrat of this wiki, to translate and review the notification that will be sent to all users, also on this wiki, who will be forced to change their user name on May 27 and will probably need your help with renames. You may also want to help with the pages m:Rename practices and m:Global rename policy. Thank you, Nemo 13:32, 3 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

A barnstar for you!

The Technical Barnstar
You're full of Technology to block other vandalism guys in town. Theyblue110 (talk) 22:59, 8 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hmhm, aha. I take it "other vandalism guys" refers to you being a vandalism guy as well? --MF-W {a, b} 23:09, 8 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Venetian Wiktionary is approved

Wonderful news! I was going to make a new request of import from vec.wiki (20 pages), but it is no longer needed... How many days we have to wait before the opening of vec.wikt?--GatoSelvadego (talk) 14:36, 14 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Unfortunately I don't know this, it depends on when a developer will have the time to create the wiki. --MF-W {a, b} 15:47, 15 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Ok, thanks!--GatoSelvadego (talk) 09:59, 17 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Ciao! Thank you very much for vec.wikt! Everything seems fine, just one thing: on wikt:vec:Speciale:Contributi/Candalua I don't see my past edits that were imported (the list starts from 17 May but there should be a lot of edits from previous months on Incubator). Other users' contributions seem to be working fine. Any ideas? Of course this is not a big nuisance, so please don't spend too much time about it :) Candalua (talk) 17:29, 17 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
This is a known bug that sometimes occurs with importing, bugzilla:34873. We can only hope it gets fixed at some time. --MF-W {a, b} 18:38, 17 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
I have the same problem of Candalua, only past edits in ns category are listed. However, I am here to ask you if you know why wikt:vec:Speciale:Serca don't works...--GatoSelvadego (talk) 17:54, 21 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Seems to be a bug .. I created bugzilla:48715. --MF-W {a, b} 17:11, 22 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Ok, thanks.--GatoSelvadego (talk) 12:37, 24 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Wy/vi project again

Hi Warburg, I would like to inform you that many articles on test wiki of Vietnamses wikivoyage have been expanded, today it reaches 197 expanded articles out of total 1260. You can find the statistic at Wy/vi/Wikivoyage:Thảo luận/Bài viết đã cải thiện. If you have any comment, feel free to post it at Wikivoyage:Thảo luận. Thanks for your support.--Cheers! (talk) 08:15, 27 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thank you, I will look into this. --MF-W {a, b} 01:48, 28 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Could you please review the aproval for Wy/vi? Regards,--Cheers! (talk) 04:53, 10 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
As I wrote on my userpage, I'm currently a bit busy. But I will try to do it as soon as possible. --MF-W {a, b} 21:13, 17 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Guten Morgen Herr MF-Warburg ! Wir haben 436 Artikel in wy/vi deutlich verbessert. Vielen Dank für Ihre Bewertung und Genehmigung. 01:40, 2 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

SignWriting Gadget on mobile

Greetings MF-Warburg, thanks for creating the (MediaWiki:Gadget-Signwriting.js). The gadget works great for the desktop, but it is not enabled for mobile. Is it possible to enable the gadget for mobile? -Slevinski (talk) 15:10, 3 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Asking in #wikimedia-mobile, I was told "Gadgets should have "targets=mobile" or |targets=desktop|mobile" in description to work on mobile (and support ResourceLoader)". I have added this target parameter, but adding "ResourceLoader" just causes the gadget to not work for normal view either. I don't really know anything about mw:ResourceLoader or coding gadgets however. You maybe can ask Danny B. who created a gadget (Project-specific logos) that seems to use ResourceLoader. --MF-W {a, b} 16:40, 3 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Wp/liv 2

Hello! Any news about the searching of experts for verifying? :)
Our activity getting low; I think this is a consequence of the fact that users are tired of waiting. :| For example, who verified the Veps Wikipedia? Maybe those people can help us? (at least with something) --Nuclear Star (talk) 18:35, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
The person who verified Veps Wikipedia was a scholar with particular knowledge of Veps ([27]). I doubt she can help about Livonian.
But I see the problem with the decreasing activity. I'll try to make new attempts to find experts, but it seems to be really difficult to find one. Do you think et:Valts Ernštreits could be one? (I found no e-mail address of him or so to contact him, unfortunately).
By the way I recently read about the death of the last Livonian native-speaker. It will be a good sign to have Wikipedia Livonian start in spite of it :) --MF-W {a, b} 21:21, 17 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Is she dead? ... Oh, it's very sad. So it also means that the language's completely died and now it's spoken as a second one only.
I've never heard of Valts Ernštreits, but it will be good if you'll find a way to contact him. I've found his e-mail, it's hidden in this message ; also I've found this and his Twitter (is it possible to send private messages @ Twitter? I've no account in this site).
BTW, creation of a page about him in the Wp/liv is a good idea. :) --Nuclear Star (talk) 23:52, 17 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Is something clear now? He didn't respond or he simply ignore?.. --Nuclear Star (talk) 18:09, 28 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Please wait some more days; the fault is on my side, I've only recently contacted him. --MF-W {a, b} 02:29, 29 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
Unfortunately there was no reply from him. --MF-W {a, b} 14:17, 28 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thai Wikinews

Hi MF-Warburg,

Thai Wikinews has been closed for more than a year. However, recently, in Thai Wikipedia we have found that a number of articles that lack encyclopaedic notability are perfectly fine for Thai Wikinews. Many of these articles are of good quality and I have reached an agreement with Thai Wikipedia admins to gradually move them to Thai Wikinews (incubator version) as they are deleted from Thai Wikipedia.

It would be helpful if the followings can be done:

  1. Redirect th.wikinews.org to incubator. (In the same way that th.wikivoyage.org redirects to http://incubator.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wy/th/%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A5%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%81&redirectfrom=infopage.
  2. Correct the template problem. (move "Wn/th/แม่แบบ:Page name" to "Template:Wn/th/Page name")
  3. Provide a temporary sysop access on Wn/th to me or other Thai volunteer to clean up the project.

The most important issue is #1. Perhaps, it requires consultation with Language committee? The rest may be done by bot and regular request channel. Please let me know if you could kindly help with these. --Taweetham (talk) 02:43, 30 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hello. I will see what can be done about issue #1. It's a bit complicated because of the existance of the closed project there.
About #2, I have just moved them to the names in the format "Template:Wn/th/Page name").
You can request test-adminship for Wn/th on Incubator:Administrators. Also if you need imports, we will be happy to help. Best regards, --MF-W {a, b} 01:28, 2 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hi MF-Warburg! I just wonder if there is any progress on #1: redirection of the closed site to incubator. --Taweetham (talk) 23:49, 17 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hi MF-Warburg! Do you have any progress on #1 or any suggestion on who to contact? Thanks. --Taweetham (talk) 15:15, 8 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Unfortunately it seems very hard to implement, since the closed wiki also needs to be still accessible in some way. I filed bugzilla:56876 to track this issue, but can't promise much success. --MF-W {a, b} 00:09, 11 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

A beer for you!

A glass of Sài Gòn Beer for you Cheers! (talk) 07:14, 20 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, Cheers! --MF-W {a, b} 20:15, 20 July 2013 (UTC)Reply


Hi, Warburg. The Vietnamese Wikivoyage couldn't link to other sister sites, you can find out the Red link at the bottom of Mainpage, and interwiki of each pages links to wikipedias, not to other wikivoyage projects. Does the project finish in creation? Best regards,--Cheers! (talk) 06:47, 12 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Someone fixed it. Thank.--Cheers! (talk) 08:32, 12 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
I'm glad to hear it's fixed. This problem sometimes appears when a wiki is still very new. --MF-W {a, b} 23:46, 15 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

luri language lrc in iran

hi my friend my name is mohammad mogoei and i want to create a luri wikipedia luri language is in iran that belong to lur people in south western of iran i create home page and other pages but unfortunately after this language accepted for iligiblity this Votes will be ignored when judging the proposal. Please provide arguments or reasons and be prepared to defend them i want to know what reason is for this problem and i can fix it?

this is a luri language home page


thanks Mogoeilor Mogoeilor (talk) 11:52, 16 August 2013 (UTC)Reply


Hello steward! We want to enable Southern Kurdish (sdh) language for localisation at translatewiki.net, Can you help us?--Calak (talk) 18:22, 25 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

The best place to ask is at translatewiki:Support. Regards --MF-W {a, b} 19:30, 25 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
We wrote here but we don't know why they don't answer.--Calak (talk) 20:36, 25 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
Well, it was only asked today (translatewiki:Thread:Support/Southern Kurdish (sdh) is not enabled), so please have some patience with them. --MF-W {a, b} 21:00, 25 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
No, see my message on 21 August (Enabling Southern Kurdish (sdh) language for localisation at translatewiki.net). MF-W, I have a question. How long do creating sdh wiki last if we translate mediawiki messages and be active here?--Calak (talk) 21:55, 25 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
Well, the project can be approved under the usual circumstances (MediaWiki messages + at least 3 active contributors for some months ... maybe 3 to 4). Also, the time from approval to the creation of the new wiki depends on the developers (see the bugs on I:SCL for the time between their opening and their closure). --MF-W {a, b} 22:01, 25 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thank you steward. And final request, can you check my request here, this problem bother us.--Calak (talk) 06:35, 26 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
I'll reply there about that. --MF-W {a, b} 15:03, 26 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
MF-W, problem is still exist.--Calak (talk) 11:31, 27 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
I answered your question there. Thanks.--Calak (talk) 11:21, 28 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
I follow the page; you don't need to write here everytime you replied there. --MF-W {a, b} 17:19, 28 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
OK, Danke.--Calak (talk) 17:28, 28 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

luri lrc


how can I translate a message in luri?

please help me

Mogoeilor (talk) 08:58, 27 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

You need to go to translatewiki:Special:FirstSteps. --MF-W {a, b} 00:54, 30 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

luri lrc

Hello so thanks I did steps in
and this is lrc portal
and this is my basic request!! how can I translate a message in luri lrc?
and how can I add luri lrc in supported language in translatewiki same as english, arabic, germany and so on!!!!
I ask for enable luri lrc and it takes a long time could you help me?
please help me I need your urgent help so thanks for your help
Mogoeilor (talk) 15:43, 19 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

I see this is being dealt with on translatewiki:Thread:Project:Translator/ your-iso-code-here your-iso-code-here – your-iso-code-here (258). --MF-W {a, b} 21:09, 20 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

About Wy/zh

Dear MF-W, I am Gabriel Lee from Wy/zh, I would like to notice you that this language of wikivoyage is already to be imported, please check if it could be imported. Thanks!--Gabrielchihonglee (talk) 06:13, 20 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

MF-W, our (Wy/zh) community always hope to be imported because we all are very work-hard on our site. We do the edits every day, and more and more members are coming to join us. I am a few disappointed about the site isn't be imported. Don't you think that Wy/zh is a successful wiki site? Hope that you can recheck the statue of us and approve our request.--‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk11:09, 26 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Please see Incubator:Community_Portal#The_Finnish_.2F_Chinese_.2F_Japanese_.2F_Hungarian_Wikivoyages about it. --MF-W {a, b} 16:39, 28 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hello again. I wonder what is your concern about approving Wy/zh besides activity. It may be the interface translations, but see the two main variants zh-hans & zh-hant. Besides, our activity is rather good IMHO. Hope to see your reply. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:26, 29 September 2013 (UTC) PS. And also thread Wy/zh/Project:互助客栈#.5BLangcom.5D_Approval_of_Votic_WikipediaReply
Also, about Incubator:Community_Portal#The_Finnish_.2F_Chinese_.2F_Japanese_.2F_Hungarian_Wikivoyages, I don't think that's a problem. The Chinese WikiTravel have a lot of quality problems, and I doubt our community will accept it. (Proof: Wy/zh/Project:互助客栈#.E8.AB.8B.E5.95.8F.E5.A4.A7.E5.AE.B6.E9.9C.80.E4.B8.8D.E9.9C.80.E8.A6.81Wikitravel.E4.B8.8A.E7.9A.84.E8.B3.87.E6.BA.90.EF.BC.9F) --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:39, 29 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Please report on the I:CP section about that when the discussion is finished and has run some time to give every contributor an opportunity to comment. --MF-W {a, b} 22:37, 29 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
What do we need for import?--Byfserag (talk) 11:40, 30 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
What exactly is not clear? --MF-W {a, b} 14:32, 30 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
see above.--Byfserag (talk) 01:57, 1 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
That answer does not tell me anything. --MF-W {a, b} 20:10, 1 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
"What do we need for import?"--Byfserag (talk) 22:34, 1 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Are you trying to troll me? --MF-W {a, b} 10:32, 2 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Are you angry?I'm sorry.--Byfserag (talk) 12:27, 2 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
@Byfserag: "What exactly is not clear?" @MF-W: I do think our community has developed a clear conscious on Chinese Wikitravel. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 13:48, 2 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

luri lrc enabling

Hello Dear MF-W, so thanks I did steps in
and this is lrc portal
and this is my basic request!! how can I translate a message in luri lrc?
and how can I add luri lrc in supported language in translatewiki same as english, arabic, germany and so on!!!!
I ask for enable luri lrc and it takes a long time could you help me?
please help me I need your urgent help so thanks for your help
Mogoeilor (talk) 09:19, 23 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

This is still valid. You can try to ask on IRC, in freenode:#mediawiki-i18n (webchat) why it takes so long. --MF-W {a, b} 13:34, 23 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
hello so thanks for your helps
I don't understandː You can try to ask on IRC, in freenode:#mediawiki-i18n (webchat) why it takes so long what do you mean? Mogoeilor (talk) 18:57, 23 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Well, you can ask there why it has not been enabled yet that you can translate into Luri. --MF-W {a, b} 19:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

so thanks please help me I don't know how I can ask this question in that siteǃǃǃ
Mogoeilor (talk) 03:28, 24 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

DIQ unable to contribute to projects

What's problem, why you bloked we. Will continue to contribute again after 6 months.Please remove our unblock it.projects dealing with approximately 1 year. No one close to none and all our efforts.-- 13:53, 3 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hello! And where you can request the status of administrator of a test language portal? Адмирал Вуллф Юларен (talk) 15:30, 5 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

On I:A. --MF-W {a, b} 15:47, 5 October 2013 (UTC)Reply


Guten Tag! Ich möchte meine Administratorarbeit bei der GRC Testwiki fortsetzen. Danke schön dafür im Voraus.--Μαρτῖνος ὁ Νέος (talk) 12:05, 6 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Ich habe es auf Incubator:Administrators gesehen. Ich werde mich darum kümmern, sobald die 5 Tage, die für einen Antrag vorgesehen sind, vorbei sind. Vielen Dank für deine Mitarbeit. --MF-W {a, b} 19:18, 6 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
Thanks for watching all the deletion requests Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:21, 10 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! --MF-W {a, b} 12:34, 10 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Fränkische Wikipedia (vmf)

Servus MF-Warburg,

was braucht es noch, damit die Fränkische Wikipedia in die Selbstständigkeit entlassen wird? Ich wurde da um Hilfe gefragt, habe aber selbst keine Ahnung. Ich werde das Projekt aber unterstützen; auch in der möglichen Selbständigkeit.

--Bua333 (talk) 08:11, 19 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

+1 --Steggalfiisch (talk) 07:06, 22 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Neben der noch nötigen Bestätigung der "eligibility" der Sprache (siehe Meta, ich weiß ich weiß... ich erwarte aber, dass das nicht mehr als eine Formalie sein wird), zunächst einmal die Übersetzung der noch ausstehenden "most-used core messages" ([28]) und dann die Aktivität ([29]). Als Faustregel gilt ungefähr "mind. 3 Benutzer in den letzten paar Monaten", wobei ich persönlich es hier ehrlich gesagt ein bisschen schwierig finde, wenn sich die Beitragszahlen der meisten Benutzer im 10er, 20er-Bereich bewegen und der Benutzer mit den meisten Edits jemand ist, der die Sprache ausweislich der Babel-Vorlagen auf seiner Seite gar nicht spricht (bzw. de-1). Aber das wird man dann sehen. --MF-W {a, b} 12:21, 22 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

There are only 3% most-used core messages left: I don't know how to translate a part of them, and also some messages are almost impossible to save (the system shows "Saving..." but nothing happens in the end). I cleared my cache (I use Chrome).

I'm ready to contribute at vmf.wiki after it will be created, so my lack of knowledge of High and/or Franconian German doesn't bother me so much, I can always leave it if I will embarrass the local community. --Midnight Gambler (talk) 16:35, 22 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Well, typically Langcom looks like native speaker involvement - of course, it is not necessary that all editors are native speakers, so it is not a great problem if also native speakers are quite involved; but what do you want to contribute if you don't know the language? --MF-W {a, b} 17:47, 22 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Minor edits (work with categories, templates etc.), fixes of obvious typos/errors, creation of stubs... so that's not a secret and it's easy for most of users. --Midnight Gambler (talk) 18:27, 22 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Danke für die Info. Ich werde darauf einwirken, dass die Frequenz noch etwas gesteigert wird. Wir haben drei aktive Muttersprachler und ich schätze mich im Fränkischen auf Level 3 ein. Obendrein haben wir bereits 5 aktive Benutzer.
Und mit 176 Artikeln liegen wir für den Anfang auch nicht schlecht, da sind bereits eine ganze Reihe freigeschalteter Wikipedien hinter uns (Rang: 270 wäre das zur Zeit), denke ich. --Bua333 (talk) 20:49, 22 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Translations of "most-used core messages" complete:([30]). --Bua333 (talk) 15:12, 23 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Kannst du uns bitte einmal über den Status informieren. Laut dieser Seite Incubator:Site creation log sind wir noch in keinem "process" (einen Vergleich mit Wp/vot/ halten wir jederzeit stand, soweit ich das beurteilen kann). Abgesehen davon in welchem Prozess wir sind oder noch nicht sind, wie lange wird das schätzungsweise noch dauern? --Steggalfiisch (talk) 08:54, 9 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

luri lrc verification to eligiblity

please see https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/lrc/Main_Page and https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Portal:Lrc and https://toolserver.org/~robin/?tool=codelookup&code=lrc
can luri lrc be eligible?
so thanks
Mogoeilor (talk) 04:30, 10 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

it will be resolved soon. --MF-W {a, b} 16:47, 26 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

so thanks be success
Mogoeilor (talk) 03:29, 27 November 2013 (UTC) HelloReply
Mr MF-Warburg please tell me about the luri lrc verification please help us I wait for your answer so thanks
Mogoeilor (talk) 16:57, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Wikiwörterbuch in Kantonesisch

Wie kann ich ein Admin der Kantonesisch Wiktionary werden? Danke. — — Cmd. Cédric de HC PPCO "Corona" 04:51, 13 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi Cédric; entschuldige die Verzögerung der Antwort; die Anleitung, wie man Test-Administrator werden kann, befindet sich auf I:A. --MF-W {a, b} 22:43, 20 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Testing Admins/Sysops

Hi MF-Warburg. I want to know a thing from you. Can a testing sysop protect/delete his/her own userpage/user-subpage? If you answer this it'll be helpful for me. --Pratyya (Hello!) 06:49, 20 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

It will be no problem if a test-sysop deletes his own userpage. However, since they do not have protect rights, they cannot protect any pages. --MF-W {a, b} 07:59, 20 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Übersetzung für Template:RC in Kantonesisch

Guten Tag. Ich habe Template:RC vom englischen ins kantonesiche übersetzt. Wie kann ich Template:RC in englisch durch Template:RC in kantonesisch ersetzen? Danke schön. — Cmd. Cédric de HC PPCO "Corona" 00:36, 22 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

southern luri luz enabling

this is luz southern luri language in iran requesting for enabling page http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Thread:Support/License
please help us to enabling this language
so thanks best regards
Mogoeilor (talk) 04:06, 22 December 2013 (UTC)Reply


Dear MF-Warburg, Sure I am Hkjacksonhk from the Chinese Wikivoyage, and at this time I am joyful to tell you that Wy/zh can be imported any time. Our community can run the site anytime. As we can see Requests_for_new_languages#Wikivoyage, there has written that Wikivoyage Chinese was approved. Hope the import can become true.

Happy Christmas and have a happy new year, --‥HkjacksonhkJC.hk12:59, 22 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Alright, please see Wy/zh/Project:互助客栈#Settings_for_the_project.
Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you as well. --MF-W {a, b} 00:12, 26 December 2013 (UTC)Reply
OK, I have checked all of the settings. Thanks for your help is these days and hope you have a Marry Christmas!--Gabriel Chi Hong Lee (找我聊聊) 03:11, 26 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Merry Christmas!

Some cake for you

Thanks for your great work and support! --Midnight Gambler (talk) 13:26, 25 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks a lot, and merry christmas to you too! --MF-W {a, b} 00:08, 26 December 2013 (UTC)Reply