Incubator:Administrators

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This is an official Incubator policy.
You may edit it, but please discuss major changes on the talk page first.


User groups on Incubator[edit]

See Special:ListGroupRights for the full list of user groups with their user rights. User group changes are logged on Special:Log/rights.

Test-administrators[edit]

Description
A test administrator is an active contributor to a test here on Incubator who was given rights to take care of that test.
Rights
  • perform rollback
  • delete and undelete pages
  • view deleted history of pages
  • block users (also blocking the use of Special:Emailuser)
  • bypass the creation of redirects from source pages when moving pages
However, they may only use their tools on pages/users in their own test. Note that this is not maintained by the computer system, but by other users (mostly admins and bureaucrats). If you do something outside your test, be prepared to defend your actions or you may be desysopped.
Requirements
  • There can be several test-admins for one test, and inversely, you can be a test-admin for more than one test.
  • You must have a user page on the Incubator and be a contributor to this wiki.
  • Your test must have more than 50 content pages/articles. Requests for multiple tests must include at least one test with 50 articles or more.
  • You are not completely new to Wikimedia projects and you understand and agree with the goals of the Incubator project.
  • You agree to follow relevant policies as those are developed here.
Requesting test-adminship
  • Place your request, including the name of the test(s) in which you work, below at #Current requests for test adminship.
  • Users are given 5 days to place comments. After this period, requests will be reviewed by a bureaucrat and if there is no reasonable opposition, you will be made into a test-admin.
    • Requests for test-adminship are not votes. They are opportunities for other users to raise possible problems. If you get no comment at all under your name, that doesn't mean you are a bad user; it means no one has any objections to you being a test admin.
  • You can alternatively hold a discussion in a "community portal" page of the test-project. After at least 5 days, you can then add your request here, so that a bureaucrat will decide about it directly.
Removal and renewal of rights
  • Test-administrators will be desysopped after a domain request for their language is completed, or automatically after a year.
  • After one year, test-administrators can simply request that their test-adminship is renewed.
See Incubator:Test-administrators for a list of current test sysops.

Administrators[edit]

Administrator access is granted to known and trusted members of the community who are familiar with the policies of Wikimedia's Incubator wiki. Adminship status on Wikimedia Incubator is not an honour for outstanding content contributors but just an additional tool for people that showed that they want to clean up. Administrator access is also not meant to imply editorial authority on the project. An administrator is simply a trusted user who can:

  • protect and unprotect pages
  • delete and undelete pages
  • block and unblock users
  • edit the interface and other protected pages
  • more …

You can request adminship on the Incubator if you meet the following criteria:

  • You are not completely new to Wikimedia projects and you understand and agree with the goals of the Incubator project.
  • You have a user page on the Incubator and are a contributor to this wiki.
  • You agree to follow relevant policies as those are developed here and respect consensus of the users of this site.

As with the admin policy on Meta and Commons, inactive administrators may have their access removed. According to this policy, any sysop inactive on Incubator will be desysoped. "Inactive" means virtually no edits or log actions in the past twelve months. Inactive administrators may re-apply in the regular way.

Admins are expected to watch the Administrators' noticeboard for notices put up by other users.

When requesting adminship, after seven days, a bureaucrat will make a decision based on the votes and comments to grant, not to grant, or to extend the time for discussion if there is still need for it.

Any new admin should first propose (on the Community Portal for example) what he is going to do (certainly for mass-scale actions) before doing it. This is to prevent mass-scale mistakes that need to be reverted manually afterwards. Some time later (a few months or so), when the admin is used to common practices, this is no longer required.

Admins are strongly encouraged to join our IRC channel regularly.

Bureaucrats[edit]

Bureaucrats are administrators who can assign user rights of requests on this page.

There are no requests for bureaucratship; any administrator may optionally ask to become a bureaucrat after one month (providing they have behaved well).

Importers[edit]

Importers have the possibility to import pages with the full history from certain defined wikis (administrators can do this too). Additionally, they are able to edit pages in bulk from XML files, which is used for importing closed projects.

When requesting importer access, after three days, a bureaucrat will make a decision based on the votes and comments to grant, not to grant, or to extend the time for discussion if there is still need for it.

When you are already an administrator and/or bureaucrat, no waiting time is needed. Bureaucrats are also able to grant these rights to themselves.

Translators & translation administrators[edit]

  • There is a special usergroup which allows editing the MediaWiki namespace: the translator group. It was originally created for translating Incubator-specific messages in the MediaWiki namespace (see Incubator:Translation project). It is nowadays largely outdated, as most of the messages can now be translated on translatewiki.net or via the local installation of the "Translate" extension. It may still be granted for specific purposes.
  • The translation administrator group is for managing the pages which can be translated with the Translate extension.

Bureaucrats decide about granting both rights. They are removed when a bureaucrat deems appropriate to do so (e.g. inactivity).

Bots[edit]

The edits of an account with bot status will be hidden from the recent changes.

To request a bot status, please list you and your bot's name below along with a description of what your bot will be used for. A bureaucrat will decide if a bot is safe and needed though any user may make a comment about it.

Requests for permissions[edit]

Below are the current requests for permissions.

Please always first read the policy written above before making a request.

Current requests for adminship[edit]

bachounda (Wp/arq, Wt/arq and other)[edit]

My test adminship in wikipedia algerian expire this 29 May. I focusing my work on two projects wp and wt Algerian dialects add to this

  • I need pages protection privilege (to protect some key pages across multiples changes )
  • I want Manipulate some scripts directly without posting request to another administrators (to save time)
  • I receive help from another incubated projects and I want to have the green light to make modifications on other projects if needed.

Thank you. --Bachounda (talk) 09:47, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Discussion open until 09:47, 28 May 2017 (UTC) StevenJ81 (talk) 15:58, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Concerning your needs beyond the test-administrator toolset, I have a couple of questions, related to your three points above:
  • Can you give an example of times when you needed page protection and couldn't get it? Incubator:Administrators' noticeboard is typically not so busy that we can't take care of such things fairly easily and promptly.
  • Again, can you give examples?
  • Typically, if your language skills are good enough to help these other projects, you and they can nominate you to be a test-admin on those projects, too. Most of the time, full administrators don't do anything on active individual test projects that regular users can't do, other than deleting pages on request.
StevenJ81 (talk) 15:58, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
  1. First of all, I want to protect the pages of new users who have fewer than 50 changes for a defined period of time: this is a sample page that can be protected Wp/arq/الپاجة اللولانية: If we analyze the history of changes on this page, we see why it is important for us to have a minimum of protection for this page.
    That link is bad. Please correct it. What you're saying is that you want to semiprotect so that users with only at least 50 edits can change them? StevenJ81 (talk) 14:03, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
    Also ... once you've given the correct page link, please describe briefly what the issues have been. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:18, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
  2. For the scripts in question, it is the editing tools that they do not actually work - Actually i am interested to correct by my self standard tools - add other extended Arabic letters used for writing. Other needs can appear in the future
    We could do this a different way, by giving you "translator" flag, but I understand.
  3. As I mentioned above, my first interest is the projects of Algeria, it is my maternal language - but during this week I received a request for 2 projects, the last of which came from Users of Wp/dag. I am therefore able to help technically not by my language skills, I do not speak and not write these languages.--Bachounda (talk) 08:50, 23 May 2017 (UTC).
    The general rule outside your tests is this: If you do certain tasks outside your tests, you have to be prepared to justify them. If the users of Wp/dag requested it, then you can justify it. Usually, we limit the full admin toolbox to people who are doing general work maintaining the Incubator. This is a borderline case. I'll see if any other admins/bureaucrats comment. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:03, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
  • I do not think this is a very convincing request. Page protections are necessary only very rarely here. Also it would be better if you first made requests for page protection and editing of scripts to the existing admins (especially for the latter, as scripts can cause security issues). Steven says the rest about the 3rd point. --MF-W {a, b} 00:24, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
    Yellow check.svg Partly done. We very much appreciate your interest in Incubator and your test projects, and thank you for your continued involvement.
    For now, there is no consensus to promote to full administrator. Given that you have never requested a page protection, nor have you ever requested the editing of a script, we do not understand why you need these tools.
    • If you feel that pages need to be protected, please make that request at I:Administrators' noticeboard. We promise to take care of such requests promptly. However, you'll need to explain why the page requires protection, including both (a) what harm was done to the page and (b) why you think protection will help prevent further harm.
    • Similarly, if you need a script edited, please ask at I:AN, with a link to a sandbox copy of the script change.
    We are happy to renew your test-admin status for another year, to expire 2018-05-29.
    Once again, thank you for your service here! StevenJ81 (talk) 17:48, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for your trust, and your help - It is true that some of my requests are not so frequent, and I accept your assessments and your decisions. hope that this new year will see the projects come out of the incubator - special thanks to StevenJ81 --Bachounda (talk) 21:58, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Current requests for test adminship[edit]

bachounda (Wp/arq, Wt/arq and other)[edit]

Yes check.svg Done See request for full administrator status above. Renewed until 2018-05-29. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:50, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Current requests for bot flags[edit]

User:S205643bot[edit]

This is my bot, and I would like to help Wp/cpx and Wp/mnp to build some articles and categories with high repeatability and similarity.--S205643 (talk) 12:20, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Both you and your bot seem pretty experienced, but you haven't really done anything here yet on Incubator. So before I agree to flag you, I'm going to make three requests:
  • Make sure you understand the policies of Incubator—in particular the need to prefix all page names—and assure me that your bot can handle that.
  • Make sure you understand any local policies that the test communities may have (orthography, for example).
  • Create a half-dozen or so pages in each of the two tests—before flagging—so I can see what your bot actually does.
Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 12:54, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
Do you make this request after having talked to the communities of Wp/cpx and Wp/mnp? --MF-W {a, b} 20:05, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

I didn't. It seems that their communities aren't active, but I did connect a user after making this request. He is the administrator on cdowiki, and flagged my bot on that wiki version. By the way, should I build articles and categories with my account or the bot to show my future works?--S205643 (talk) 03:10, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

@StevenJ81: I've created some pages with my bot account on both Wp/cpx and Wp/mnp (its contributions).--S205643 (talk) 12:04, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for providing an example. What is the subject of the pages I am seeing? Months of the year?
Let me make two points on this. First, I can confirm that the communities have not been active. There have been no (named) active contributors to either test since early 2015. So there is no one to talk to, in that sense. (Do snoop around a little and make sure that nobody left behind a set of guidelines to use, say on a Project: or Help: namespace page. If you can't find anything, I guess use the rules of Min-Nan Wikipedia as a benchmark to start.)
Second, I think what you want to do here is fine, up to a point. But no test gets out of Incubator by consisting only of bot-generated stubs. In fact, many tests (and older, small wikis) have that problem. So if you're going to do some bot work here, I want you to commit to spending some time (using your regular account) fleshing out a reasonable number of pages with real, sourced content, too. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:13, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Ok, I see. So, what's the standards or rules for getting out of Incubator? Is there anything I can refer to?--S205643 (talk) 15:27, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
m:LPP. --MF-W {a, b} 20:00, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
I don't think you should run a bot to create articles on test-wikis whose communities you didn't contact or whose communities don't exist. What is the point behind that? And how do you know what to put there, if you don't speak these languages (as your userpage suggests)? --MF-W {a, b} 20:00, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
@MF-Warburg: The user's page suggests that s/he speaks Min Nan, and both of these tests are in Min variants of Chinese. So I suppose the user would need to tell us how good his/her language skills are in these varieties of Chinese.
That said, part of the reason I want the user to spend time building up articles is exactly because I don't think the bot work is worthwhile in a vacuum. User:S205643, one of the requirements on the page m:LPP that MF-Warburg gave you states that there needs to be a consistently active community working on a test to get it out of Incubator. It's possible that your bot work might encourage a community to form. But in all honesty it would be good if you also recruited others to help you work on these tests. Otherwise, there is not a lot of value in the bot work. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:47, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Ok, I don't need this flag, thanks for your helps. About Min languages, even they are different, they still have a close relationships. And actually, I can only speak Min Nan (nan), and I can only read other Min varieties with the help of dictionaries or other materials. Originally, I want to help these versions to grow up because these languages are very likely to die out in the near future.--S205643 (talk) 16:01, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
We appreciate your volunteering. You can still sometimes do some bot work here, even without the flag. But we do need more than that to fully establish these tests.
X mark.svg Not done StevenJ81 (talk) 17:32, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Other requests[edit]

Note: It is better to translate at Translatewiki: here.
For local translations, see Incubator:Translation project

None currently