Incubator:Administrators' noticeboard

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This is the page to request attention from test administrators, administrators and bureaucrats. Note what they can do.

Administrators can:

  • protect and unprotect pages
  • delete and undelete pages
  • delete images and other uploaded files
  • block and unblock users
  • edit the interface and other protected pages
  • use the built-in rollback functionality

Test administrators can do the same (except protecting and unprotecting pages), but only within their tests (therefore they cannot edit the interface).

  • Exception: As rollback is only appropriate to use in cases of vandalism, test-administrators can use that feature anywhere they see vandalism.

Bureaucrats can do all the above, as well as:

  • grant administrator/bureaucrat status
  • grant/revoke test-administrator status
  • grant/revoke bot flags
  • rename users [now mostly obsolete in favor of global accounts and unified login]

Note: Only Stewards may remove adminship or bureaucratship. If you want this to be done go to Requests for permissions at the Meta-Wiki.

If there is no response, you may wish to try the IRC channel, #wikimedia-incubator.

  • For deletion requests, use I:RFD for test deletions and {{delete}} for speedy deletions.
  • For user rights (admins, test-admins, bots, ...) or renamings, see I:A.
Current notices

Please place notices at the bottom of this section.


Can't create a page on a test wiki for a language with ISO code[edit source]

I can't create a page in Montenegrin, ISO code is 639-2 and 3 [cnr] but it won't allow me. Blu145 (talk) 17:41, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This matter is already discussed above where an administrator denied at the moment. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:17, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I saw that but his response was very unprofessional. If there are established rules on Wikipedia, you cannot just express your personal opinion that something "is not a recognized language" when it literally has a valid code and 250,000 speakers. Blu145 (talk) 06:42, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Could one of the local admins semiprotect Wp/izh/Stalin please? It's being targeted by a persistent LTA who uses a VPN. Blocking the individual IPs doesn't do much good because he just gets another. Thanks in advance - Antandrus (talk) 16:13, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done Syunsyunminmin (talk) 16:59, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong in Main Balochi Language(bal) writing articlr[edit source]

I tries to wrote article in Balochi wikipedia incubator but i cant to publish article because its forbidden i think, I request to Incubator administrators to accept writing in Balochi wikipedia(bal)

Our team is trying to developement of Balochi language in web and wikipedia is in our programs. Moshtank (talk) 06:14, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is because bal is defined as a macrolanguage. See Wp/bal for the languages contained in it. --MF-W {a, b} 09:30, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Balochi is not a macrolanguage i as a Baloch and with native Balochi language and i a researcher of Balochi language know that Balochi is not a macrolanguage and we for writing just use one Balochi not three macrolanguages
Its our langugae and its our rights that write and reads in Balochi language, but you that dont know a little things about our langugae saying us about our language?
Moshtank (talk) 05:05, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Moshtank Balochi is not a macrolanguage? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:41, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226 Yes, is not.
Moshtank (talk) 04:59, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Moshtank Then it's a matter at SIL depart, you'll need to submit a request to deprecate member language codes and design Balochi (bal) as an Individual code. Otherwise, there's probably nothing Incubator can do. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 05:04, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226 thats true i has contacting with them!
Thanks!
Moshtank (talk) 05:11, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226 Until SIL accept our request we will work on bcc
If you can please help us and fix Wp/bcc/بیتکوین issues.
Moshtank (talk) 05:13, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226, @Xaosflux,
I have contact with SIL registrars they told me we can use bal as an inclusive ISO639-3 code for Main Balochi
This is their Email text to us;
《Dear Mr. Kohgardi,
The identifier [bal] is a 639-3 code inclusive of the three other Balochi languages. Have you tried to use it?
There is no option to create this, as it already exists, so there is nothing further I can do for you.
Kind regards,
Janell Nordmoe》
Moshtank (talk) 04:31, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226, @Xaosflux,
and in other email in a paragraph they told us;
《There is already a code for Balochi macrolanguage, Baluchi [bal]. So we do not need to create one. It is a 639-3 code, as well as 639-2, and it includes the three other Baluchi languages. So, if you are referring to writing or literature for all three languages, please use [bal].》
Now here you saying us you cant to allow to use [bal]
Moshtank (talk) 04:37, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not interested in this discussion, please stop pinging me. Xaosflux (talk) 15:27, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Xaosflux Who can to help us?
I have tierd actually with some admins here
Moshtank (talk) 17:25, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Moshtank Ditto for me, please stop pinging me, otherwise I'll report you for abusing this function plus, when possible, ask for a block for your account! SIL issues shall be handled on SIL department, not this website. (Anyway, for Wp/bal project, since it has only some hundreds contents, I'd prefer to merge it into Wp/bcc, do anyone against this idea?) Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:27, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry if you were you offended by me.
My Bro or Sis
Balochi is our language and i as a Balochi writer preffered [bal] ( inclusive code of Main Balochi ) you must to merge [bcc] to [bal] not [bal] to [bcc]
If you can merge do it and move contents from [bcc] to [bal]
thanks!
Moshtank (talk) 03:57, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Moshtank Let me tell you that why "you must to merge [bcc] to [bal] not [bal] to [bcc]" isn't possible (at least, without several efforts on changing MediaWiki source codes themselves): the Eastern Balochi Wikipedia test shown why to you, because many of their contests use Latin scripts (or Roman, if you'd love to say) instead of Arabic scripts. (PS: Looks like there's now a discussion on langcom mailing list [1] about nearly all of what you asked everywhere.) Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 07:04, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ofcourse [bcc] is just a dialect of [bal]
We creating articles in [bal] for [bcc] because @Amire80 tells me use [bcc] till langcom accept [bal] as an supporting language and again translates and articles can to move to [bal]
I told all of Balochi dialects just different in speakings and voices and all of Balochi writers using Main Balochi as a complette language.
So you must move or copy articles from [bcc] to [bal]
And its true some Balochi writers in web using Roman Scrip that we can use [bal-latn] for that and i request [bal-latn] on Translate project
Moshtank (talk) 04:30, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Block request[edit source]

Please block 2A02:4780:1:17:0:0:0:E (talk | contribs) due to abuse on Incubator (I have reverted their edits). 64andtim (talk) 19:39, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done Syunsyunminmin (talk) 06:01, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wp/mni-beng as a test wiki[edit source]

I want to start a new test wiki for Meitei language alias Manipuri language (ISO code: mni) but in Bengali script (ISO code: Beng). Earlier, Meitei language wikipedia (mni.wiki) was successfully approved as a wikipedia from here. But it's written in Meitei script (ISO code: Mtei). Since mni wiki (in Mtei script) already exist, may I be given the permission to create a test wiki with a prefix "Wp/mni-beng" or "Wp/mni-Beng" (a combination of ISO codes of mni language and beng script)? Important to note is that Meitei language is widely written in Bengali script in Bangladesh as well as India despite the revival of Meitei script. Both Mtei script and Beng script are official scripts for mni language in Manipur. Bengali script is still used in (1) Indian Prime Minister's Office for writing Meitei language, (2) Vikaspedia (Government of India's agriculture encyclopedia), (3) Manipur Government's official websites (other than English) and in various newspapers too. I tried to create a page with the very prefix but it's not possible, as a notice box appeared saying it's wrong prefix or if not, I should request to admins to allow the prefix to be unblocked from the auto-block. Haoreima (talk) 10:18, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ideally, both scripts should be used in one wiki. Is it maybe possible to add a script converter on mniwiki? --MF-W {a, b} 14:44, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
MF-W Sir! We don't have that mechanism as of now. Plus, the Bengali script using Meitei language has heavy Bangladeshi accent, vocabulary, style that it can be considered as a separate dialect in some case. Even the Ethnologue stated this fact. For that, we also have w:Bangladeshi Meitei language. The Punjabi wikipedia has two, one in Gurmukhi script (pa wiki) and the other in Shahmukhi script (pnb wiki). Just like Chinese wikis have zh wiki, zh-classical, etc, is it possible to allow us to start a test wiki? --Haoreima (talk) 15:01, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
MF-W The Meitei script using Meitei language is usually linguistically pure or attempts not to add loanwords most of the time. It even have w:Meitei linguistic purism movement. So, I believe that the two could be considered separate. Even in Google Translate, two sections are planned to be added for Meitei language, first one is already added called "Manipuri (Meiteilon)" whose code they set as "mni-Mtei" and the remaining one is in its Beta version (soon to be publicised) and is "mni-Beng". --Haoreima (talk)
There is functionality in the MediaWiki software to support multiple scripts where they are both phonetic - used on a number of Indic language Wikis. I'm not sure what the limitations are, but it might be worth investigating. Rich Farmbrough (talk) 21:30, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Haoreima: Probably this issue is accounted by Phabricator T357853? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 05:07, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226@MF-Warburg@Rich Farmbrough Thank you but I am not experienced about Phabricator. And also please tell me what should I do further for this process? Haoreima (talk) 06:17, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Montenegrin Wikimedia Incubator[edit source]

I want to contribute to the Wikimedia Incubator for Montenegrin, but the creation of new test articles in the Incubator is disabled. I am not discussing the eligibility of a Wikipedia in Montenegrin, only the possibility of creating new test articles in the Incubator since one of the premises in the 5th request for Montenegrin is that it needs to have active contribution, but we cannot contribute when the creation of new test articles in the Incubator is disabled. Can somebody enable the creation of new test articles in the Wp/cnr/Početna stranica? @MF-Warburg purposefully ignored my question on his talk page and didn't answer it even after five days, but he responded to everybody else on the same day they posed their question. Plus, he edited this page 21 hours ago which proves he is active. I don't think he is being professional in doing his job here. He's been on Wikipedia for 17 years, maybe it's time for him to retire and somebody else to step in his place. He has a habit of ignoring people's questions which makes him totally unfit for an admin. In February of 2023, two users asked him very politely to further clarify and justify his claim that Montenegrin "is not recognized as eligible" for a test Wikimedia Incubator. He very rudely ignored both of their questions, but he has replied to all later questions on different subjects to other users, usually on the same day they asked them. He also failed to respond to @Syunsyunminmin who asked very concisely, after laying out all Wikipedian principles she is aware of, whether she is missing some information as to why the Incubator for Montenegrin is disabled. He failed to reply to user @Liuxinyu970226 on multiple occasions. This gives me reasonable doubt to conclude that he is not professional in fulfilling his task here, so I will inquire into where I can report him to have him removed from his position. I would love if somebody could give me a proper answer to my question about the Montenegrin Wikimedia Incubator and why is it disabled? It's a test wiki and we should be allowed to create test articles in order to increase the likelihood of having a real wikipedia one day. Thank you in advance. Blu145 (talk) 09:25, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for describing my response speed in such a positive way, which I feel is not deserved. - The creation of pages is blocked for all ineligible language codes. Montenegrin is currently not recognized as eligible, because the language committee has not found it to be "sufficiently unique that it could not coexist on a more general wiki. In most cases, this excludes regional dialects and different written forms of the same language." (as the m:LPP says). --MF-W {a, b} 13:32, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The description is perfectly accurate and deserved and if I didn't write that I'm gonna report you, you would probably ignore this post as well. But I don't see where do you pull the information that Montenegrin is officially considered "not eligible". That may be your subjective opinion but the 5th Montenegrin request is still open and has lots of support. In fact, most of the opposition comes from Serbs. And you didn't even read my question, I asked about enabling test articles on the Incubator, I didn't ask why is there no Wikipedia in Montenegrin. But even if a Montenegrin wikipedia never sees the light of day, some changes will have to happen. The false, non-existent 19th century German invention called "Serbo-Croatian" that 0,2% claim as their mother tongue in all four countries today has a Wikipedia, and it's basically a Croatian Wikipedia 2.0, and all other three standards that are also "not sufficiently unique that they could not coexist on a more general wiki" have their own separate wikipedias. Montenegrin is in fact orthographically the most unique of the four because it has additional two letters. So either all of them are gonna merge into one, or we are eventually going to have our own Wikipedia. I still don't see why we shouldn't be allowed to at least write articles in the Incubator. 62.4.55.104 13:44, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well dear all above, I'm afraid the biggest matter that why Montenegrin can't be considered an eligible language for Incubator to test, is due to this meta assessment page: Croatian Wikipedia Disinformation Assessment-2021, especially its 3rd suggestion:
Encouraging the affected communities to discuss the possibility of re-merging Bosnian, Serbian and Croatian language projects into the original Serbo-Croatian language projects to re-align with the practices of other pluricentric languages with unified Wikipedia projects; including but not limited to Chinese, English, German, Spanish, Tamil, Korean, and French language Wikipedias.
@editors of that meta page: NNair (WMF), MNadzikiewicz (WMF), Xeno (WMF), Ainali, Minorax, Morneo06, DerHexer, Whym, Quisqualis and GeneralNotability: Is this suggestion also affects Montenegrin, so that Montenegrin contents should also be considered to merge into the existing Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:53, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am perfectly fine with just one Wikipedia existing for all four standards of the same pluricentric BCMS language. But I consider it very wrong for three standards to have their own wikipedia, and a fourth common Serbo-Croatian wikipedia to exist, but not a Montenegrin one. There are literally no differences, zero, between Bosnian and ijekavian Serbian. In Montenegrin you at least have iotated forms with ś and ź and radically different syntax. But it's still all the same language. And it's very unprofessional of admins to have double standards for different languages. Bosnian is perfectly eligible to have it's own wikipedia, and Croatian and Serbian too, even though they are far from being sufficiently unique, but then for Montenegrin all of a sudden we have the strictest policy. I think the best solution is to have just one wikipedia in two scripts, Latin and Cyrilic, where forms of every standard will be acceptable, depending on who is writing the material. Also, this would be a huge improvement in article quality, since Serbian and Croatian editors would now have to reach a consensus on certain grounds and supply their claims with actual references, especially when it comes to writing articles on history and historical figures. The other solution would be to transform the Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia into the Montenegrin one, but again that wouldn't be fair to all the other languages that have perhaps even bigger regional differences but don't have separate wikipedias. But if no one ever merges the Serbian, Bosnian and Croatian wikipedia into one, then we need to have a Wikipedia for the Montenegrin standard as well. 62.4.55.104 05:20, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
" Montenegrin is currently not recognized as eligible, because the language committee has not found it to be "sufficiently unique that it could not coexist on a more general wiki.
There are Serbo-Croatian, Serbian, Bosnian and Croatian Wikipedias. What is their sufficient uniqueness compared to each other and Montenegrin? Millodarka (talk) 11:25, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Millodarka Isn't this question answered at [2] which I also posted this link to your talk page? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 07:44, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226. After you informed me about the initiative to delete the test project, I tried to join the discussion, but my post was not approved (or refused because I never got the follow-up on this one: “Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision.”).
So, no. My questions about the way Montenegrin test Wikipedia is being handled (why, when, on what rule and whose decision adding articles is disabled with the incorrect warning of language not having proper code, for example) are not nearly answered.
In the past year, I have learned not to expect any explanation, so this was more my failure to resist the urge to point out an obvious discrimination than to try to get an answer. I'm apologizing about it, and I want to thank you for your attempt to help. Millodarka (talk) 22:03, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I completely don't understand why it is possible to edit the Montenegrin Wikipedia but not to create new articles. It's frustrating, because it's something you find out only AFTER writing a new article and trying to save it. It's nowhere written that new articles can't be written and the main page even invites people to write them. Besides, what's the point of having an encyclopedia that can be edited but not expanded? Someone writes here that this is because the language is not eligible. Okay, fair deal. But if that is the case, why is it possible to create new articles in other languages that are not eligible (Ancient Greek, Arberësht), but not in Montenegrin? Especially because the request page itself writes: "That said, a sufficiently active and robust test project must be built in Incubator before any test in Montenegrin would approved for creation as an independent wiki. So please contribute to that test at incubator:Wp/cnr." Svjetionik (talk) 18:22, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request to Create Test Wiki for Kawi (old Javanese) Wikipedia[edit source]

I am about to create a test wiki for Kawi or Old Javanese Wikipedia, but unfortunately the ISO 639-3 for Kawi language which is "kaw" does not detected by the system. This project is tend to reuse and revive the liturgical language of Kawi on Wikipeda.

The profile of the Kawi language can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Javanese

Case study for relevant project is Sanskrit Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit_Wikipedia Ilham.nurwansah (talk) 07:51, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Ilham.nurwansah: Hello! Wikimedia's language proposal policy doesn't allow extinct/ancient languages, which is why you can't create any pages in that test wiki. Note that some ancienct language editions of Wikipedia existed before that policy came into place, and it does not work retroactively, but it is very unlikely that any new ancient language editions will be approved. Sorry. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:22, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Old Saxon article[edit source]

I cannot create another article in the Old Saxon test Wikipedia despite there being other articles in it. That Northern Irish Historian (talk) 15:38, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@That Northern Irish Historian: Hello. Wikimedia's language proposal policy doesn't allow extinct languages like Old Saxon. The info page for the Old Saxon Wikipedia Incubator was erroneously marked as "open" instead of "rejected"; I have updated its status accordingly. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:20, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jon Harald Søby But there are still existing pages prefixed as "Wp/osx/"? Shouldn't they be also deleted? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:11, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe move to Miraheze? That Northern Irish Historian (talk) 02:48, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free to migrate, afaik. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:31, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semiprotection from LTA[edit source]

Hi - could one of the local admins please semiprotect Wp/rmn/Lačharibaskoro kontesti‎ and Wp/na/Adolf Hitler? These are being targeted by a persistent LTA. He uses a VPN so blocking the individual IPs doesn't do much good. If you could revdel some of the more deranged and abusive edit summaries that would be good too. Thank you in advance - Antandrus (talk) 16:30, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done Syunsyunminmin (talk) 16:35, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Common.css for Wp/bdr and Wp/dtp[edit source]

Hello! I would like to request the creation of MediaWiki:Wp/bdr/Common.css and MediaWiki:Wp/dtp/Common.css with content from MediaWiki talk:Wp/bdr/Common.css and MediaWiki talk:Wp/dtp/Common.css respectively. Thank you. Ultron90 (talk) 13:26, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Please explain what they are needed for. Also, if I see it correctly, you have not yet contributed to Wp/dtp. Do you have any connection with the community? --MF-W {a, b} 16:12, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. I am currently trying to provide both communities with templates for infoboxes and have found that Common.css is needed for the infoboxes and other templates to function properly (correct me if I am mistaken). The current active members of both communities are a part of smaller groups within Wikimedia Community User Group Malaysia and I have agreed with them offline to help with templates. If you need further verification from members of both communities or require that I also contribute to Wp/dtp as a prerequisite, I am open to do so. Ultron90 (talk) 03:11, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the explanation, I have moved the pages. --MF-W {a, b} 21:20, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blanking[edit source]

Please why do continue making my publishing in the Moore Incubator difficult, anytime I create and want to publish I get notification that the page is blank because I deleted when I haven't. Please fix this issue quicklyAlhaj Darajaati (talk) 15:15, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It seems you are indeed trying to blank pages: Special:AbuseLog/36391 --MF-W {a, b} 19:51, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Alhaj Darajaati: Have you been experiencing this problem lately? If so, could you let me know which browser (and browser version) you are using? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:30, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Common js for Wn/bn[edit source]

Dear administrators, Is it possible to add this JavaScript code (or only the 'develop' part of the current version) to 'MediaWiki:Wn/bn/Common.js'? (Script by Syunsyunminmin) Thank you. Asked42 (talk) 08:16, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is for an easy submit function designed to submit an article for review. While I understand that Bengali Wikinews may not currently be very active as a test, this tool could be valuable in simplifying the article creation and submission process. Asked42 (talk) 08:17, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Asked42: I have added it, with a few minor changes. Please let me know if anything is not working as it should. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:45, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is working fine. Just a request, would it be possible to change the text 'প্রতিস্থাপন' to 'নিরীক্ষণের জন্য জমা দিন'? Asked42 (talk) 14:18, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just something I noticed: on mobile, the button works as a link to edit the page, while on the desktop version, everything is fine (without installing script). Asked42 (talk) 16:50, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Could someone kindly take a moment to review the matter and requests? Thank you. Asked42 (talk) 16:40, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Resignation[edit source]

Good day all, I have resigned as a local administrator earlier in the day as I'm inactive and don't see any strong reasons for me to keep the local rights. I will continue to serve the community in the capacity of a global sysop, and as a local translation admin, and hope to see you guys soon :) --Minorax«¦talk¦» 12:20, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Minorax: Thanks for your help and service so far! :-) Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:03, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please protect this page because of frequent vandalism by LTA. --Ameisenigel (talk) 09:31, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semiprotected for one year. -- MF-W {a, b} 08:10, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copy request[edit source]

Hello, can anyone copy these pages into the following respective pages?


After that, copy these lines to the middle of MediaWiki:Wy/id/Common.css:

/* Estilos para Plantilla:Portada:Ticker, Plantilla:Portada:Ticker/Core y Plantilla:Portada:Ticker/Data */

.ticker-container { height: 36px; overflow: hidden; border:1px solid #A9A9A9; border-left:none; border-radius:0 3px 3px 0; } .ticker-text { height: 150%;

   white-space:nowrap;
   display:inline-block;

}

.inicio-ticker {

 text-align: center;
 float: left;
 font-size: 100%;
 color: white;
 background: #808080;
 padding: 3px 10px;
 -moz-border-radius: 3px;
 -webkit-border-radius: 3px;
 border-radius: 3px 0 0 3px;
 height: 32px;
 display:table;

} .inicio-ticker b { display: table-cell; vertical-align: middle; }


After that, copy these lines into MediaWiki:Wy/id/Common.js:

//Ticker de la portada var width = $('.ticker-text').width(),

   containerwidth = $('.ticker-container').width(),
   left = containerwidth;

$(document).ready(function(e){ function tick() {

       if(--left < -width){
           left = containerwidth;
       }
       $(".ticker-text").css("margin-left", left + "px");
       setTimeout(tick, 8); //El número indica la velocitat (Més petit més ràpid)
     }
     tick();

}); //END Ticker de la portada


Sorry for the long message, you can see it by the source-editor if it's confusing.

Thank you. Veracious (talk) 04:02, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Veracious: Sorry, I thought I had already done this. Done now. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 10:50, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jon Harald Søby That's okay. Thank you. 🙏 Veracious (talk) 06:30, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copy request (2)[edit source]

Hello, can anyone copy these pages into the following respective pages?

Thanks. Veracious (talk) 05:17, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Veracious: We could do that, but it wouldn't have any effect. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:56, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jon Harald Søby It wouldn't hurt to try, right? 🤭 Veracious (talk) 03:18, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Prefix problem[edit source]

I am experiencing difficulty editing this page, Wn/bn/উইকিসংবাদ:সংবাদ কক্ষ. Upon saving, an error message is displayed, indicating that it lacks a prefix. This issue is also occurring on some other pages. Asked42 (talk) 13:53, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Asked42: Hi! Could you tell me a bit more about this error message, like copying the text from it? Also, are you able to save the page, or does saving not work when you get this error? If you want, you can upload a screenshot of the issue to Wikimedia Phabricator and post a link here. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 14:42, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I encounter an error message when attempting to save any changes. The error message is as follows:
"The title most probably lacks a prefix or is in another way in an incorrect format (uppercase letters in the prefix, trailing slash, etc.). If you arrived here from another page, please return and correct the link, ensuring it has the correct naming format. If you are trying to create a new page directly, please ensure it has a proper name. If you believe this issue is preventing you from creating a page with a correctly formatted title, please inform the administrators."
Additionally, the following message is displayed: "Error: This page is unsigned! (In contrast) you can create pages named Wn/bn/Wn/bn/." (translated). Asked42 (talk) 14:50, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just noticed that I could make edits in mobile mode, although in the desktop version, it still shows the prefix error. I guess the mobile version edit will work, since there's no other option. Also in mobile mode, revert is not possible, will create a blank page. (history). Asked42 (talk) 18:06, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I see. It may be happening because of the <inputbox>. I tried removing the <inputbox> code, and the edits were successfully saved. However, when I include the <inputbox>, it appears that the page mentioned in 'default' parameter is being created upon saving any edits. Pages containing this "diff" are exhibiting the prefix/blank-page problem. Am I using it incorrectly? Asked42 (talk) 09:12, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I made a empty edit and created a different page. Maybe it is a bug. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 14:43, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My subaccount (眠春眠春) can edit it. But I (Syunsyunminmin) create different pages. Something strange seems to be happening. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 14:51, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I want to have the xml of Phoenician Wikipedia[edit source]

I think Phoenician is a beautiful language. It is the first language to have a fully fledged alphabet. 84.65.190.94 14:59, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), there was never any actual content in the Phoenician test Wikipedia (Wp/phn), so there is nothing we can make an XML dump from. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 08:04, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What about ancient Egyptian? 85.255.235.197 18:02, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I can tell, no pages were ever created for the Ancient Egyptian test Wikipedia. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 15:06, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is ISO:ycr active?[edit source]

I look up the list code of ISO:639-3, the code ycr of Yilan Creole is still active. But when I’d like to create Wp/ycr, the screen pops up the sentence: “You are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code.”. I wanna to know what’s wrong with this system. --Sdf (talk) 13:46, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sdf: The code was only added to ISO 639 recently (January this year), so it had not been added to our list of accepted codes. I have added it now.
Do you know this language at all? It is not a good idea to create a test wiki in a language you don't know. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 14:07, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

SIL language codes[edit source]

Hi there, does someone know something about SIL? They did not posted the Proposed Changes now. Zolgoyo (talk) 11:33, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Zolgoyo: I asked SIL for this question in the last month, and this is what their staff responded:

There will be a revision of 639 published in the coming weeks which will modify the change request process. In anticipation of this, we will not be publishing the requests submitted in 2023 yet, as we expect that to be done in collaboration with an ISO 639 Maintenance Agency.

Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:05, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, this was helpful! Zolgoyo (talk) 14:40, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Inquiry about a problem[edit source]

Hello everyone, I am trying to publish or edit articles on (Wikivoyage Arabic) in the Arabic language by adding texts in the Arabic language only. I repeatedly see the phrase (You are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code.)

How can this problem be solved? Osps7 (talk) 17:18, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Osps7: Hi! Can you share the URL to the pages you're trying to create? E.g. the URL that's in your browser's location bar when you edit pages. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 19:10, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Test-adminship requests[edit source]

Hello, are there any bureaucrats available to grant test-adminship? There are several requests (including mine) at the Incubator:Administrators#Current_requests_for_test_adminship section that need attention, as some have not gotten a response since October. Thank you. Ultron90 (talk) 11:37, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please revdel[edit source]

https://incubator.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Incubator:Community_Portal&diff=next&oldid=6127726 Thanks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 23:07, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 23:38, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pages in Category:Maintenance:Delete with the reason "inaccurate language"[edit source]

User:2001:999:2A8:5C:88C6:EA3B:A402:58C0 and User:84.231.98.188, probably User:Olivechan00, put some pages from Wp/lud, Wp/izh and Wp/vot to be deleted for "inaccurate language". They also posted a notice in Talk:Wp/lud/Piäsivu and Talk:Wp/vot/Päälehto that edits from seven editors not to be trusted. As I'm not a native to those languages, I can't decide whether to delete or not for those pages. Any comments are welcome. NinjaStrikers «» 12:06, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The deletion requests seem trustworthy (ref. this thread), and it is commendable of the person behind this mess to try and fix their mistakes. I will delete the tagged pages. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:22, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Great. Thanks! NinjaStrikers «» 07:51, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Explanation for page deletions[edit source]

Hello. I'm the person who put a bunch of pages for deletion on Wp/izh, Wp/vot and Wp/lud respectively. As made clear by the above thread, I'm trying to fix the mess that was left a few years ago on these wikis, in which a former partner and I caused the wikis to be filled with inaccurate language, because neither of us actually knew the languages correctly. And to make things worse, a lot of the pages were copied and (badly) converted to Cyrillic at Wp/vot. I obviously regret this hugely, and thus I wanted to try and clean up some of the mess. However, I've also done the mistake of not logging in, causing the deletions to be questioned. Could you please go forward with the deletions? And yes, there are a LOT of pages, the mess left was that bad.

Thank you very much! Do not interact (talk) 09:28, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, we will get around to deleting them, it just takes a bit of time. And thanks again for helping to cleanup. --MF-W {a, b} 15:03, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can't create a page on a test wiki for a language with ISO code[edit source]

I can't create a page in Old Japanese Wp, ISO code is 639-3 [ojp] but it won't allow me.--MO.SH.ST.SB (talk) 06:13, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wp/ojp cannot be created because it is an extinct language and does not meet the language proposal policy. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 11:55, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Classical Japanese is still used in literature, including haiku, so it is not an extinct language. MO.SH.ST.SB (talk) 00:53, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
For Wikisource projects only, languages without native speakers are allowed. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 01:10, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think there aren't any native speakers. MO.SH.ST.SB (talk) 08:57, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In addition to what Syunsyunminmin said, this user seems using a duck-puppet account User:MO.SH.ST.BE at I:RFD, so I doubt if I'm still able to discuss this matter peacefully. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:47, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copy request - Wy/ar[edit source]

Hello, can you "please" copy this page into following respective page:

--Mohanad (talk) 14:48, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Jon Harald Søby Excuse me for mention you, can you help me with that? --Mohanad (talk) 13:24, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Mohanad: Hi, sorry about the late reply (and happy new year).
I can do that, but I'm not a big fan of just uncritically copying everything from one wiki's Common.js to another. Doing that in this case would lead to, amongst other things, a lot of English Wikivoyage-specific templates being added to the interface for the Arabic Wikivoyage (templates like voy:en:Template:See and voy:en:Template:Do), and inclusion of a different script when you visit the watchlist.
My point is: What parts of that page do you think would actually be useful for the Arabic test Wikivoyage? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 08:28, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
THx @Jon Harald Søby (and happy new year), the most important function is this, I agree with you, I just didn't want to bother you with repeated requests whenever I need something --Mohanad (talk) 21:21, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jon Harald Søby can you please just copy "proportionalResize() function"? --Mohanad (talk) 13:17, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MF-Warburg Sorry for mention, can you help, please? -Mohanad (talk) 15:42, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think Jon Harald Søby is more knowledgable than me in this area. --MF-W {a, b} 23:18, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mohanad: Done for the proportionalResize bit, sorry it took me so long! Jon Harald Søby (talk) 09:35, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion requests at I:RFD[edit source]

Hello, this is User:Gameoverbits speaking. I can't access this account currently, so I'm writing this out of account. Anyway, I have put the test wikis Wp/vot and Wt/vot up for deletion, due to these wikis being mostly built by non-proficient speakers and there really being no other way out due to the extremely low numbers of proficient speakers (21 natives, possibly all elderly). Wt/vot also has all of its pages currently deleted, so there's really no reason in keeping it. It's been some time without any response, so please get to it as quickly as possible. Thank you very much. 84.231.210.199 06:01, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Are you the same guy who claimed having contributed without language knowledge in the past, and who keeps losing access to the accounts he uses for the deletion requests? --MF-W {a, b} 18:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Is this somehow relevant to the discussion? The reason why I'm making this request is because it seems like no proficient speaker seems to have ever contributed to these tests (like shown here) and that it doesn't seem good to keep things the way they are due to this. Of course, I can't know everything for sure, but this is simply how it seems like at the moment. And I'm by no means doing this just for fun, I just simply don't see any better options. This situation worries me quite a bit, and I want to do something about it. 2001:999:2E2:583:88C6:EA3B:A402:58C0 19:50, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think it is relevant to know why new accounts that are interested in these projects keep popping up (and keep losing their access to return as IPs) and are so insistent that everything needs to be deleted now, immediately, when the projects have been sitting untouched for years. --MF-W {a, b} 00:27, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Then yes, this person is me. I simply don't want to have five different accounts lying around, and I think my past with the project gives me a good reasoning as to why I'm so worried about all of this. However, I did not lose this one account on purpose, and I want to retrieve it. Please also understand that none of this account stuff was done with any malice, I'm just extremely stupid, and it was 100% a mistake having all those accounts. Currently, I do not want or need to use any more than just one. I also understand that this might make my requests less believable. It was, again, 100% a mistake to do all of this, and at this point I honestly don't care if I get permanently banned for it, I don't really like being here anyway. Just please take these proposals seriously. 84.231.210.199 03:48, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Do you even regret causing this many problems for other people, for lying even when faced with proof of what you were up to, and repeatedly trying to cover your tracks by using sockpuppets? Your responses in this thread so far just seem to be about you don't want your name tied to the mess you've created. And while we can clean up the mess you and your friend(s) have made on the incubator, there is still the matter of all the other garbage you've added to other Wikimedia projects. I hope you're planning on getting that stuff nuked too. A big thanks to the other person on here who has asked for deletion requests; they seem to be genuinely sorry for what they did and take responsibility for it, for which I thank them. - Yupik (talk) 02:27, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, are you talking about User:Do not interact or User:Palmtree222, or possibly someone else? I'm the former, not the latter, and my personal "account business" only has to do with the deletion requests, and I don't personally recall any of the stuff you said, I think we might have a misunderstanding here. I do not know who you are and what this drama is all about, I was not present when any of this might've unfolded.2001:14BB:692:ABDE:5CAD:7F9E:F46A:41E6 12:45, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why isn’t)t it letting me make lipid open at Toki Pona?[edit source]

I want free knowledge accesible to (almost) any language, why isn’t Toki Pona accepted? Abrown1019 (Talk/Edits) 23:28, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, this is a constructed language, and a Meta-Wiki request submitted for two years: m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Toki Pona 2. Can someone tell us that whether langcom is discussing its eligibility or not? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:02, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Another view statistics link[edit source]

Can this link be used for MediaWiki:Pageinfo-footer since the current link is not active?

[https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=incubator.wikimedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-30&pages={{FULLPAGENAME}} Page view statistics] Asked42 (talk) 14:49, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thanks for the suggestion! --MF-W {a, b} 02:25, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Asked42 (talk) 12:19, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can't create a page on test wikipedia incubator[edit source]

I cannot create a page in Pre-reform Russian orthography with valid ISO code (orv). What is wrong with it? Let me know. Flippysketch2019 (talk) 11:36, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Totally agree with you 194.146.191.126 15:00, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
orv cannot be created because it is a Historical language[3] and has been rejected by langcom. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 15:07, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So, how could I make a test wikipedia in incubator (which ISO-639 code) using pre-reform Russian orthography (from 18 century)? I tried all my best asking for it Flippysketch2019 (talk) 19:46, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Except for Wikisource, wikis for extinct languages cannot be created. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 03:53, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wp/vky[edit source]

I apologize, I want to add a Wiki test that is Wp/vky in the incubator but can not. This language is called Kayu Agung and has the ISO 639-3 code "vky" thank you for your time. Es Krim 5 juta Rasa (talk) 02:41, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you looking for Wp/kge? Cf. https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/kayu1244 about the code. --MF-W {a, b} 22:03, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Common.css for Wp/mag[edit source]

I request the creation of MediaWiki:Wp/mag/Common.css with the content from MediaWiki talk:Wp/mag/Common.css. Please do the necessary changes. This is required for properly displaying the infobox templates on Wp/mag. Thanks! ऐक्टिवेटेड् (talk) 18:17, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Wikimedia Incubator admins, I have added {{delete}} tags to very short pages made by the IP editor above, but the tags have been removed without major expansions. Please let me know if these very short pages are acceptable (or not) according to your deletion policy. Thank you for your attention. MathXplore (talk) 14:02, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was simply writing about numbers on the Askunu Wikipedia. 193.39.158.202 14:04, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
MathXplore: Thanks for reporting this, I deleted the pages and blocked the IP, this is an LTA. --MF-W {a, b} 17:29, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Revdel needed for IP vandalism on Wp/sms[edit source]

All of this contributor's vandalism needs to be reverted on the article Wp/sms/Nuõrttsääʹmǩiõll. Preferably the IP address would also be blocked since this lovely person (just a few of the IP addresses they've used) has been vandalizing Skolt Sámi -related articles across MediaWiki projects each time they're not blocked. Spb! - Yupik (talk) 16:43, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted and blocked. --MF-W {a, b} 21:45, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! - Yupik (talk) 22:42, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can't create new pages in Wp/goh due to ISO code[edit source]

I can't create new pages in Old High German, although the ISO 639-3 goh is valid and the test wiki is open. Is there a reason for this? Pergarius (talk) 13:04, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

goh is an extinct language. It cannot be created (except for Wikisource) because it does not meet language proposal policy and the proposal was rejected by the Language Committee. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 13:15, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Common.css for Wp/mag[edit source]

I am requesting again for the creation of MediaWiki:Wp/mag/Common.css with the content from MediaWiki talk:Wp/mag/Common.css. Thanks! ऐक्टिवेटेड् (talk) 19:25, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2605:8D80:407:10F5:0:0:0:0/64[edit source]

Please delete all the contribs of this range, none of the content is actually in simple English. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 07:48, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Currently I don't see any edits at Special:Contributions/2605:8D80:407:10F5:0:0:0:0/64, so I assume this was done. --MF-W {a, b} 19:42, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]