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Half (give or take a few) of the Prūsiska Wikipēdija copied to Wp/prg - What should be done?

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I had assumed Nertiks would be fine with copying it over; as there was no response. I started making pages here on October 7, and started importing on the 31st. However, somewhere in/after December, I found what he said on the request for the Prussian Wikipedia:

"The Prussian Wikipedia started to work on an independent server: http://wikipedia.prusaspira.ez.lv (now http://wikipedia.prusaspira.org) after refusing it in the official Wikipedia. We have 6 authors who write articles more or less regularly. From the technical point of view it would be better to make the decision about Wikipedia for our language using the material on this server, not to start an Incubator, which can disappear and work of people can be wasted then." --User:Nertiks; 27 Febuary 2012

Nowadays, the independent Wikipedia has only two users (or three, if you count WūranArtīkelinRedigītajs, who may be Nertiks): Nertiks and me. It appears that the data was transferred (between servers? due to a server error?) on 28 September 2021. I joined on the 26th of 2024.

Plus, there have been many, many other instances of copying from the Prūsiska Wikipēdija, so I thought it would be fine. I copied half of the Prūsiska Wikipēdija over (give or take a few articles). It's licensed with CC BY-SA-4.0, however I suspect that the way I did it breaks the licensing, by not specifically adding the CC BY-SA-4.0 link to the commit message every time.

  • Should the articles that I imported be mass-deleted?
  • Should we export every single article that exists in Wp/prg to the Prūsiska Wikipēdija, convert it to their orthography, and have the Prussian Wikipedia go the way of Toki Pona?
  • Should I ask Nertiks again and tell him what I did?
  • Should I should be blocked from editing the Incubator because there's a rule I violated by doing this?
    • If so, should it be temporary or indefinite?
  • Or should nothing happen?

This may be such a massive blunder that I felt like I had to go here instead of the Community Portal. Sorry. Kxeon (talk) 15:39, 12 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Is the whole test-wiki wp/prg a duplicate of the independent wiki, copied by you? --MF-W {a, b} 11:56, 9 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Definitely not. Quite a few of the pages are not from the Prūsiska Wikipēdija. There are currently 309 pages on the Incubator. I don't really know how many of those are copied from the Prūsiska Wikipēdija, as I did way too much and others have also not labelled their imports but;
  • Tīgelka imported 4 pages, correctly for the most part. They placed the license and URL in their edit summary. There's just no link.
  • NawsPiteris imported 65 pages from the Prūsiska Wikipēdija. Piteris is a part of Prusaspirā, the proposer of the second request for Wikipedia Prussian, and was a user of the Prūsiska Wikipēdija before the migration, which destroyed all data. Due to the destruction of the data, it's hard/impossible to tell whether or not NawsPiteris copied from the Prūsiska Wikipēdija, or if the Prūsiska Wikipēdija copied from them.
  • I imported too many to give an exact number... I estimate 175~200...
  • And there are definitely a few more people that I'm forgetting, of whom imported from the Prūsiska Wikipēdija. From what I remember, 2.
As far as I can tell though, nobody else has imported articles from the Prūsiska Wikipēdija. Recently, anyway.
If I understand you correctly, what you did was manually copying content from the external wiki without attributing the source, right? Well, we've had a similar thing going on with Interslavic (Wp/isv): at first, I asked several times if it would be possible to go "the way of Toki Pona" but never received an answer, and after three months, some people started copying articles from our external wiki, and gradually, the work moved from that wiki to the Incubator. Obviously, two wikis being worked on simultaneously is most undesirable, so that's why I put a banner in the external wiki asking people to edit the Incubator instead.
I wouldn't worry too much about the copyright infringement if I were you, because that situation can simply be undone by importing all articles along with their histories at some later point. The only thing is that importing them to the Incubator would require quite some extra work because of the prefixes. That's why it might be better to wait with that until the Prussian wiki has been created.
And anyway, the Incubator at least gives you the advantage that activity can easily be monitored. An external wiki is harder to check for sockpuppetry and probably won't make it possible to verify if all the requirements are met. rand IJzeren Jan (besěda) 21:02, 9 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Huh. It seems that the situations of the Prussian and Interslavic Wikipedias really were somewhat similar, apart from a few things:
  1. The Prussian Wikipedia was rejected two times:
    1. Once in 2008; which was the catalyst for the migration to an entirely independent website to continue operations
    2. And again in 2016; despite the second request for Prussian that was proposed by Piteris in 2012, still being open (today marked as eligible).
  2. Nērtiks himself did not make a banner at the top of the Prūsiska Wikipēdija like you did
  3. Nērtiks may be unaware that this is even happening/has happened.[note 1]
So what was done for Interslavic here may also work for Prussian.[note 2]
Besides the fact that near the start of May of this year, the Prūsiska Wikipēdija garnered 10 articles of French gamble-spam with the wrong encoding,[note 3] of which have not been deleted yet,[1] the Prūsiska Wikipēdija seems to be OK; although it's pretty inactive these days.
Also, when I was importing articles, I added a comment at the top for some of the ones I imported with the URL of the page I imported from, however some of them have no attributions at all. None of them have the licensing information or link. I'll just take your word however, and not worry about the copyright violations. Thanks, Kxeon (talk) 23:29, 11 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
A quick export (from the independent Prussian Wikipedia) and an import here would solve the issue quickly. The Incubator is already CC BY-SA 4.0 (as you can see on the footnotes of every page), so importing would "overwrite" the copy-over edits you made and give the appropriate user their credit (in the page history). Would that be possible @MF-Warburg? Of course, we would need @Kxeon to give us a list of every article, including templates, categories, modules (if applicable) that they copied over. Also include Tigelika's imports since they did not give appropriate credit («If supplied, you must provide the name of the creator and attribution parties, a copyright notice, a license notice, a disclaimer notice, and a link to the material.»). I don't think we can do much about NawsPiteris since his "imports" (now technically creations) predate articles by the independent Wikipedia (since we can't know where they came from). Else we could also delete every article created by them, but I think the optimal solution is to import ;) Garcez (talk) 17:24, 12 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the suggestion to make the lists of pages that I imported.
When I searched for "wikipedia.prusaspira.org Tū redigijja" in my history on Pale Moon, I found the search results you see down here. I removed the red links, and the ones that I checked and found that I didn't make the page on the Incubator, from the list (2 red links, 36 by NawsPiteris, and 1 by Tīgelka; 39 in total), so now I made a list of pages, where each one was probably imported by me.
  1. Abistiks
  2. Adli
  3. Adli - Angzdrin Kunnegini
  4. Aliskans
  5. Alnāsteini
  6. Amellingi
  7. Andenes
  8. Andrōmeda
  9. Anna Prus
  10. Antrā dināmikis ensadīnsna
  11. Apsi
  12. Arkellis
  13. Auktumma tūlisku
  14. Baltija
  15. Baltiska krewetti
  16. Geltaīna kīla
  17. Glōsana
  18. Gotska Sandön
  19. Guddamistan
  20. Hilbertas plattibi
  21. Ikurrina
  22. Kaddegs
  23. Kalpeni for
  24. Kašūbai (tautā)
  25. Kreinas-Milmanas gērdausenis
  26. Krāntaws
  27. Kurka
  28. Kālwarnis
  29. Kāmstis
  30. Kērkas
  31. Kīrsnan saiwāgarin
  32. Kīrsnas aliskans
  33. Kīrsnawinzus geggals
  34. Kīrsnawinzus kērka
  35. Kōns
  36. Kūlgrinda
  37. Laītawa
  38. Laūkiska šīrki
  39. Liguzuwinnin angzdris
  40. Luks (mīstan)
  41. Lukuttis
  42. Lēcbargs
  43. Līdi
  44. Līkuta nāts
  45. Līkutailappiska līpa
  46. Līkutasis geggals
  47. Līkuts Princis
  48. Līwa
  49. Līwa (Paguddi)
  50. Mackālija
  51. Makrēli
  52. Mandelbrotas tūlisku
  53. Manx bilā
  54. Medenīks tattarwas
  55. Mertīns
  56. Mikkels Klussis
  57. Mīniks (teulōgija)
  58. Mōlas massi
  59. Mōls
  60. Nadrāuwa
  61. Nātanga
  62. Paguddi
  63. Pameddi
  64. Paserrija
  65. Patrīmpus
  66. Pelīmaigis
  67. Pergrūbris
  68. Pergrūbris (dēiws)
  69. Pergrūbris (zentlin)
  70. Pilkeris
  71. Pirmā dināmikis ensadīnsna
  72. Pirmā prūsiska senskisnā
  73. Prastasis azzis
  74. Prastasis kaddegs
  75. Prēigara
  76. Prūsas Grīma
  77. Pāitaran
  78. Pēnpala
  79. Pīkli
  80. Pōli
  81. Pōwurmisku
  82. Relaciōni
  83. Rāistanpils
  84. Rānkaskugis
  85. Rīzlis
  86. Rūgtines rūgtan
  87. Sasnā
  88. Sasnīnai
  89. Saūlis wītra
  90. Skallawa
  91. Slidenīks
  92. Steineras gērdausenis
  93. Stāi prastai arkelli
  94. Sōnants
  95. Tāwe Nūsan
  96. Tīrpsnas temperatūri
  97. Tīrts Katekismus
  98. Ulinsnā prei Rēides azzaran
  99. Undasklakēi
  100. Walskā
  101. Wilhelms Wīns
  102. Wilkazukkai
  103. Wilnis
  104. Wladimīrs Toporōws
  105. Wīns
  106. Wūksteniks
  107. Wūksteniks (azzaran)
  108. Wūrmiwinzus geggals
  109. Wūrmiwinzus kērka
  110. Zarātiskai
  111. Zinguris
  112. Zirgūni
  113. Zirgūni (appi)
  114. Āukels
  115. Škurs
  116. Šīrkis
  117. Template:Kēmiskan elamēntan
  118. Template:Kēmiskas sendāsenis
  119. Template:Tautā
I also went to my contibutions and found a few pages that weren't in my history, that I still seem to have imported:
  1. Bansē (azzaran en Galindai)
  2. Bansē (kāims en Galindai)
  3. Bazilisks
  4. Bijakciōni
  5. Burrowas-Wheeleras transfōrmaciōni
  6. Buttiska šīrki
  7. Buttiskas spurglas
  8. Bīskupaspils
  9. Bīslaida (appi)
  10. CAS nummeri
  11. Citrōnis rūgtan
  12. Coulombas tikrōmisku
  13. Deginnis
  14. Deklaraciōni stēisan gīmtan amzin tikrōmin
  15. Deklaraciōni stēisan gīmtan amzin tikrōmin - ēnturs
  16. Dināmikis ensadīnsnas
  17. Drānzi
  18. Drūsa (azzaran)
  19. Elāktriskan talpan
  20. Eridāns (gealōgija)
  21. Erks Mānts
  22. Farads
  23. Farēiriska bilā
  24. Freeciv
  25. Galdapi (appi)
  26. Galinda
  27. Gallu
  28. Gausas tikrōmisku
  29. Gaīls aliskans
  30. Gaīls gāndars
  31. Gegalāi
  32. Geltaīna kīla
  33. Glišas rūgtan
  34. Gāndars
  35. Gārbas bremzi
  36. Higgsas bozōns
  37. Impulss
  38. Inērcijas mōmentan
  39. Inērcijas mōmentas tensōrs
  40. Izwanginewīngi kīrsnas kērmens
  41. Leītawa
  42. Luks (mēstan)
  43. Massis sirdan
  44. Nabetta
  45. Nutōns
  46. Paskāls
  47. Pelannas etālisku
  48. Pellana (ōptiki)
  49. Prūsas Grēma
  50. Senrazgīsnas wīdiks
  51. Separāminas stānis
  52. Spurglāi
  53. Strōwangs
  54. Tirtī dināmikis ensadīnsna
  55. Welsnas impulss
  56. Welsnas mōmentan
  57. Widāminan swāikstan
  58. Šablōni:Kēmiskas sendāsenis
  59. Šablōni:Mistan (Redirect to Šablōni:Mēstan); This template is based off of Šablōni:Tautā
  60. Kategōrija:Barta
  61. Kategōrija:Garēi (Redirect to Kategōrija:Garjāi)
  62. Kategōrija:Karjangus / Karengus
  63. Kategōrija:Kēmija
  64. Kategōrija:Kīrnas
  65. Kategōrija:Mackālija
  66. Kategōrija:Mestāi / Mistāi
  67. Kategōrija:Semba
  68. Kategōrija:Tāutas
  69. Andajaus (Redirect to Autrīmpus)
  70. Andajus (Redirect to Autrīmpus)
  71. Guddija (Redirect to Mackālija)
  72. Jātawa (Redirect to Sūdawa)
  73. Laītawa (Redirect to Leītawa)
  74. Wp/prg/Luks (mīstan) (Redirect to Luks (mēstan))
  75. Prūsas Grīma (Redirect to Prūsas Grēma)
  76. Prūsiskan (Redirect to Prūsiska bilā)
  77. Russija (Redirect to Mackālija)
The entire list of pages that are in my contributions, that were imported by me:
  1. Abistiks
  2. Adli
  3. Adli - Angzdrin Kunnegini
  4. Aliskans
  5. Alnāsteini
  6. Amellingi
  7. Andenes
  8. Andrōmeda
  9. Anna Prus
  10. Antrā dināmikis ensadīnsna
  11. Apsi
  12. Arkellis
  13. Auktumma tūlisku
  14. Baltija
  15. Baltiska krewetti
  16. Bansē (azzaran en Galindai)
  17. Bansē (kāims en Galindai)
  18. Bazilisks
  19. Bijakciōni
  20. Burrowas-Wheeleras transfōrmaciōni
  21. Buttiska šīrki
  22. Buttiskas spurglas
  23. Bīskupaspils
  24. Bīslaida (appi)
  25. CAS nummeri
  26. Citrōnis rūgtan
  27. Coulombas tikrōmisku
  28. Deginnis
  29. Deklaraciōni stēisan gīmtan amzin tikrōmin
  30. Deklaraciōni stēisan gīmtan amzin tikrōmin - ēnturs
  31. Dināmikis ensadīnsnas
  32. Drānzi
  33. Drūsa (azzaran)
  34. Elāktriskan talpan
  35. Eridāns (gealōgija)
  36. Erks Mānts
  37. Farads
  38. Farēiriska bilā
  39. Freeciv
  40. Galdapi (appi)
  41. Galinda
  42. Gallu
  43. Gausas tikrōmisku
  44. Gaīls aliskans
  45. Gaīls gāndars
  46. Gegalāi
  47. Geltaīna kīla
  48. Glišas rūgtan
  49. Glōsana
  50. Gotska Sandön
  51. Guddamistan
  52. Gāndars
  53. Gārbas bremzi
  54. Higgsas bozōns
  55. Hilbertas plattibi
  56. Ikurrina
  57. Impulss
  58. Inērcijas mōmentan
  59. Inērcijas mōmentas tensōrs
  60. Izwanginewīngi kīrsnas kērmens
  61. Kaddegs
  62. Kalpeni for
  63. Kašūbai (tautā)
  64. Kreinas-Milmanas gērdausenis
  65. Krāntaws
  66. Kurka
  67. Kālwarnis
  68. Kāmstis
  69. Kērkas
  70. Kīrsnan saiwāgarin
  71. Kīrsnas aliskans
  72. Kīrsnawinzus geggals
  73. Kīrsnawinzus kērka
  74. Kōns
  75. Kūlgrinda
  76. Laūkiska šīrki
  77. Leītawa
  78. Liguzuwinnin angzdris
  79. Luks (mēstan)
  80. Lukuttis
  81. Lēcbargs
  82. Līdi
  83. Līkuta nāts
  84. Līkutailappiska līpa
  85. Līkutasis geggals
  86. Līwa
  87. Līwa (Paguddi)
  88. Mackālija
  89. Makrēli
  90. Manx bilā
  91. Massis sirdan
  92. Medenīks tattarwas
  93. Mertīns
  94. Mikkels Klussis
  95. Mīniks (teulōgija)
  96. Mōlas massi
  97. Mōls
  98. Nabetta
  99. Nadrāuwa
  100. Nutōns
  101. Nātanga
  102. Paguddi
  103. Pameddi
  104. Paserrija
  105. Paskāls
  106. Patrīmpus
  107. Pelannas etālisku
  108. Pellana (ōptiki)
  109. Pelīmaigis
  110. Pergrūbris
  111. Pergrūbris (dēiws)
  112. Pergrūbris (zentlin)
  113. Pilkeris
  114. Pirmā dināmikis ensadīnsna
  115. Pirmā prūsiska senskisnā
  116. Prastasis azzis
  117. Prastasis kaddegs
  118. Prēigara
  119. Prūsas Grēma
  120. Pāitaran
  121. Pēnpala
  122. Pīkli
  123. Pōwurmisku
  124. Relaciōni
  125. Rāistanpils
  126. Rānkaskugis
  127. Rīzlis
  128. Rūgtines rūgtan
  129. Sasnā
  130. Sasnīnai
  131. Saūlis wītra
  132. Senrazgīsnas wīdiks
  133. Separāminas stānis
  134. Skallawa
  135. Slidenīks
  136. Spurglāi
  137. Steineras gērdausenis
  138. Strōwangs
  139. Stāi prastai arkelli
  140. Sōnants
  141. Tirtī dināmikis ensadīnsna
  142. Tāwe Nūsan
  143. Tīrpsnas temperatūri
  144. Tīrts Katekismus
  145. Ulinsnā prei Rēides azzaran
  146. Undasklakēi
  147. Walskā
  148. Welsnas impulss
  149. Welsnas mōmentan
  150. Widāminan swāikstan
  151. Wilhelms Wīns
  152. Wilkazukkai
  153. Wilnis
  154. Wladimīrs Toporōws
  155. Wīns
  156. Wūksteniks
  157. Wūksteniks (azzaran)
  158. Wūrmiwinzus geggals
  159. Wūrmiwinzus kērka
  160. Zarātiskai
  161. Zinguris
  162. Zirgūni
  163. Zirgūni (appi)
  164. Āukels
  165. Škurs
  166. Šīrkis
  167. Šablōni:Kēmiskas sendāsenis
  168. Šablōni:Mistan (Redirect to Šablōni:Mēstan); This template is based off of Šablōni:Tautā
  169. Kategōrija:Barta
  170. Kategōrija:Garēi
  171. Kategōrija:Karjangus / Karengus
  172. Kategōrija:Kēmija
  173. Kategōrija:Kīrnas
  174. Kategōrija:Mackālija
  175. Kategōrija:Mestāi / Mistāi
  176. Kategōrija:Semba
  177. Kategōrija:Tāutas
  178. Andajaus (Redirect to Autrīmpus)
  179. Andajus (Redirect to Autrīmpus)
  180. Guddija (Redirect to Mackālija)
  181. Jātawa (Redirect to Sūdawa)
  182. Laītawa (Redirect to Leītawa)
  183. Wp/prg/Luks (mīstan) (Redirect to Luks (mēstan))
  184. Prūsas Grīma (Redirect to Prūsas Grēma)
  185. Prūsiskan (Redirect to Prūsiska bilā)
  186. Russija (Redirect to Mackālija)
And so, this is the full list of pages that were ever imported to the Incubator by me (excluding redirects):
  1. Abistiks
  2. Adli
  3. Adli - Angzdrin Kunnegini
  4. Aliskans
  5. Alnāsteini
  6. Amellingi
  7. Andenes
  8. Andrōmeda
  9. Anna Prus
  10. Antrā dināmikis ensadīnsna
  11. Apsi
  12. Arkellis
  13. Auktumma tūlisku
  14. Baltija
  15. Baltiska krewetti
  16. Bansē (azzaran en Galindai)
  17. Bansē (kāims en Galindai)
  18. Bazilisks
  19. Bijakciōni
  20. Burrowas-Wheeleras transfōrmaciōni
  21. Buttiska šīrki
  22. Buttiskas spurglas
  23. Bīskupaspils
  24. Bīslaida (appi)
  25. CAS nummeri
  26. Citrōnis rūgtan
  27. Coulombas tikrōmisku
  28. Deginnis
  29. Deklaraciōni stēisan gīmtan amzin tikrōmin
  30. Deklaraciōni stēisan gīmtan amzin tikrōmin - ēnturs
  31. Dināmikis ensadīnsnas
  32. Drānzi
  33. Drūsa (azzaran)
  34. Elāktriskan talpan
  35. Eridāns (gealōgija)
  36. Erks Mānts
  37. Farads
  38. Farēiriska bilā
  39. Freeciv
  40. Galdapi (appi)
  41. Galinda
  42. Gallu
  43. Gausas tikrōmisku
  44. Gaīls aliskans
  45. Gaīls gāndars
  46. Gegalāi
  47. Geltaīna kīla
  48. Glišas rūgtan
  49. Glōsana
  50. Gotska Sandön
  51. Guddamistan
  52. Gāndars
  53. Gārbas bremzi
  54. Higgsas bozōns
  55. Hilbertas plattibi
  56. Ikurrina
  57. Impulss
  58. Inērcijas mōmentan
  59. Inērcijas mōmentas tensōrs
  60. Izwanginewīngi kīrsnas kērmens
  61. Kaddegs
  62. Kalpeni for
  63. Kašūbai (tautā)
  64. Kreinas-Milmanas gērdausenis
  65. Krāntaws
  66. Kurka
  67. Kālwarnis
  68. Kāmstis
  69. Kērkas
  70. Kīrsnan saiwāgarin
  71. Kīrsnas aliskans
  72. Kīrsnawinzus geggals
  73. Kīrsnawinzus kērka
  74. Kōns
  75. Kūlgrinda
  76. Laītawa
  77. Laūkiska šīrki
  78. Leītawa
  79. Liguzuwinnin angzdris
  80. Luks (mēstan)
  81. Lukuttis
  82. Lēcbargs
  83. Līdi
  84. Līkuta nāts
  85. Līkutailappiska līpa
  86. Līkutasis geggals
  87. Līkuts Princis
  88. Līwa
  89. Līwa (Paguddi)
  90. Mackālija
  91. Makrēli
  92. Mandelbrotas tūlisku
  93. Manx bilā
  94. Massis sirdan
  95. Medenīks tattarwas
  96. Mertīns
  97. Mikkels Klussis
  98. Mīniks (teulōgija)
  99. Mōlas massi
  100. Mōls
  101. Nadrāuwa
  102. Nabetta
  103. Nātanga
  104. Nutōns
  105. Paguddi
  106. Pameddi
  107. Paserrija
  108. Paskāls
  109. Patrīmpus
  110. Pelannas etālisku
  111. Pellana (ōptiki)
  112. Pelīmaigis
  113. Pergrūbris
  114. Pergrūbris (dēiws)
  115. Pergrūbris (zentlin)
  116. Pilkeris
  117. Pirmā dināmikis ensadīnsna
  118. Pirmā prūsiska senskisnā
  119. Prastasis azzis
  120. Prastasis kaddegs
  121. Prēigara
  122. Prūsas Grēma
  123. Pāitaran
  124. Pēnpala
  125. Pīkli
  126. Pōwurmisku
  127. Relaciōni
  128. Rāistanpils
  129. Rānkaskugis
  130. Rīzlis
  131. Rūgtines rūgtan
  132. Sasnā
  133. Sasnīnai
  134. Saūlis wītra
  135. Senrazgīsnas wīdiks
  136. Separāminas stānis
  137. Skallawa
  138. Slidenīks
  139. Spurglāi
  140. Steineras gērdausenis
  141. Strōwangs
  142. Stāi prastai arkelli
  143. Sōnants
  144. Tirtī dināmikis ensadīnsna
  145. Tāwe Nūsan
  146. Tīrpsnas temperatūri
  147. Tīrts Katekismus
  148. Ulinsnā prei Rēides azzaran
  149. Undasklakēi
  150. Walskā
  151. Welsnas impulss
  152. Welsnas mōmentan
  153. Widāminan swāikstan
  154. Wilhelms Wīns
  155. Wilkazukkai
  156. Wilnis
  157. Wladimīrs Toporōws
  158. Wīns
  159. Wūksteniks
  160. Wūksteniks (azzaran)
  161. Wūrmiwinzus geggals
  162. Wūrmiwinzus kērka
  163. Zarātiskai
  164. Zinguris
  165. Zirgūni
  166. Zirgūni (appi)
  167. Āukels
  168. Škurs
  169. Šīrkis
  170. Template:Kēmiskan elamēntan
  171. Template:Kēmiskas sendāsenis
  172. Template:Tautā
  173. Kategōrija:Barta
  174. Kategōrija:Garēi
  175. Kategōrija:Karjangus / Karengus
  176. Kategōrija:Kēmija
  177. Kategōrija:Kīrnas
  178. Kategōrija:Mackālija
  179. Kategōrija:Mestāi / Mistāi
  180. Kategōrija:Semba
  181. Kategōrija:Tāutas
Hopefully, those lists are correct. There are so many though, that I'm not 100% sure. They probably are. Kxeon (talk) 15:42, 13 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
  1. Special:AllPages. Prūsiska Wikipēdija
  1. The link to the Incubator at the bottom of the home page was added by me in September 2024, and it might be overreaching if I somehow added the banner myself apart from adding that link to the Incubator at the home page. So I don't. Plus the fact that I don't even know how. I also have no idea how he'll feel if I told him. I don't want to ruin anything.
  2. Assuming we can get Nērtiks on board. If not, then unless it's clear that it's not overstepping, we need to find another solution.
  3. Possibly Windows-1252?

This is getting confusing here with who replies to what plus footnotes. To me the issue here is: was the independent wiki "forked" but nobody is working on it now here? Then let's delete the pages here in order not to have a bad copy. --MF-W {a, b} 17:57, 12 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

@MF-Warburg: What I understood from it is:
1. There was (10y+ ago) an independent Prussian Wikipedia, hosted at what I'll call "server1". It seems that this server1 suffered a data loss, but not before having some contents of it copied over Wp/prg (NawsPiteris by mid-2021). Before the data loss, it seems that server1 was relatively active, judging by Nertiks' comment "[sic] We have 6 authors who write articles more or less regulary."
2. Then the wiki was reestablished at what I'll call "server2". This seems to have happened in 2021~. Contents of server1 were "restored" (recreated manually?) into server2 and/or (some of) the contents were here and they copied over there (I do think the first option is more probable). As Kxeon stated, nowadays there are only them and a user called "WūranArtīkelinRedigītajs" active in server2, but most of the articles themselves were written long ago in server1.
3. Tigelka and Kxeon "imported" articles from server2 to Wp/prg. Kxeon was probably not aware that they could be breaking the license terms. Tigelka seems to have been aware, since they left a link to the license in their edit reasons and links to the article copied (except appropriate credit was not given). Garcez (talk) 03:34, 13 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
And where do people want to contribute now? I think the first question to be solved is not about whether pages were correctly copied, but whether wiki work will continue here or on server2. -- MF-W {a, b} 12:54, 13 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Considering the fact that only @Kxeon is actually active on both wikis, I guess this is up to them to tell us :P

It also seems that some communities are averse to contributing to server2 because it uses Sambian (the one revived) and not "Common Prussian" (or Pomesanian?). But I'm not an expert on Prussian. Anyways, this technically would not be a problem here since we can and we allow support for multiple dialects. Garcez (talk) 03:33, 14 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Seems that you understood me correctly. However, for some reason I feel that I should say some more things too, as there is more to say.
Nērtiks started to edit again from 31 January—7 February 2025, after I asked him to add ParserFunctions, and he attempted to, then ran into trouble that broke the wiki for a little bit, then managed to unsuccessfully add it on 30 January.
After the 14 edits he made in that timespan, he stopped again. Maybe he's too busy to edit (which checks out, he said he'd be making a new prussian dictionary in the spring)?
Also, it seems that the Prūsiska Wikipēdija was forgotten by Nērtiks for a while. I guessed this from the fact that I had to notify Nērtiks on 1 February, that the URLs on Prusaspīra's websites to the Prūsiska Wikipēdija, was still linking to their old domain at wikipedia.prusai.org, and it was even still hosted there (until 2020?). (Their move to prusaspira.org was probably what destroyed all their data)
On top of that, Google not listing the Prūsiska Wikipēdija in their search results, and the fact that the links on Prusaspīra's websites were dead and outdated for a long time, may have also impeded its discoverability.
Considering how nobody has registered other than Nērtiks and me, I'm not even sure if that many people, or anybody (apart from Prusaspirā) even knew the Prūsiska Wikipēdija was even still alive, just moved to Prusaspīra's new domain.
Because of all this, it looks like the Prūsiska Wikipēdija has had a pretty rough time these past few years. Currently, it is inactive, with only two users registered, as well as being relatively hard to find, so it's harder for it to get users too. Not the best situation for a wiki to be in. Kxeon (talk) 21:49, 13 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Restart Dalmatian test project

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I am trying to restart dalmatian wikipedia test project but it say dont have valid code but code for dalmatian language is dlm i am new here so i dont know much how this works i just want start writing articles if possible Vigurichteodoro (talk) 21:02, 27 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

It's not possible because Dalmatian is an extinct language. New Wikipedia projects in extinct languages are not allowed. --MF-W {a, b} 16:56, 28 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
its "extinction" is very disputed thing, more of mythology than proven fact, is there way to prove language is not extinct? Vigurichteodoro (talk) 20:34, 28 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Vigurichteodoro: Yes, you must prove it mainly to SIL's ISO 639-3 and/or Ethnologue. Other sources may be used but mostly SIL's ISO 639-3 and eventually Ethnologue (having SIL's ISO 639-3 approval is certainly most important). Garcez (talk) 17:41, 12 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Redlinked "MediaWiki:Lang" pages

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I accidentally stumbled upon Module:Wp/qdp/MediaWikiLang; and by extension Wp/qdp when searching for "ko-kp" on the Incubator, on Google.

I also found that there are quite a few redlinked pages that aren't supposed to be redlinked. Maybe you should create them?

Kxeon (talk) 02:07, 2 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

@User:Jon Harald Søby: is this needed? --MF-W {a, b} 08:48, 2 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
@MF-Warburg: Yeah. I'll create those now. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 19:32, 7 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
... huh. Either I missed one or Dolgan (MediaWiki:Lang/dlg) was added since I sent this notice. I don't know which one it is but it probably needs to be made regardless. Sorry if I did miss it. Kxeon (talk) 21:51, 8 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Done ;) Garcez (talk) 17:00, 12 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
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Can you move Wp/dlg/Common.css to MediaWiki:Wp/dlg/Common.css

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Thanks Sauit (talk) 08:28, 13 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Done Syunsyunminmin (talk) 10:04, 13 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
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