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Translating the main page of the long part (submitting the real translation) says a unknown error

When submitting a real translation of this part (this is very long) (in quotes) “You need a valid language code (explained in the manual). If you don't, you can apply for one, or use the non-Wikimedia wiki Incubator Plus 2.0. Starting a test wiki here doesn't mean it will later be automatically accepted by Wikimedia; you need it to be approved by the Language committee first. See Requests for new languages for more information. Please respect the naming conventions for the test language, to help future migrations of pages to an actual wiki project. All of your test pages (including templates and categories) need to be named uniquely (by using a prefix) and consistently.” in the main page, it says there’s an unknown error. I tried refreshing the page and tried it again but still does not work. Other translations seems to work fine but not this one ~2025-26772-30 (talk) 22:06, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

It's been 2 weeks and there wasn't any response. Was there no solution or something? ~2025-28838-70 (talk) 01:53, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

Same. Still waiting for a response ~2025-32244-55 (talk) 19:48, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't notice this until now. Which language are you trying to translate it into? Based on your edit history, I assume it's Greenlandic.

I think I spotted the error – the translation unit contained an external link to Miraheze, and as an unregistered user, you were prohibited from adding that. I have put the URL into a variable now, so you should be able to add the translation now. Could you try it again? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:37, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

I already tried it again but the error remains the same. This is what the translation that I placed in (it’s long by the way and sorry if it feels off in the reply (there is the “nowiki” template that I placed in this reply)):

:::* [[$iso|Oqaatsit kodeat]] atuuttoq pisariaqartippatit ([[$manual|najoqqutassiami]] nassuiarneqarpoq). Taamaaliorsimanngikkuit ataaseq qinnuteqarfigisinnaavat, imaluunniit Wikimediamiunngitsoq wiki atorlugu [https://incubator.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page Incubator Plus 2.0]. :::* Uani misileraalluni wikimik aallartitsineq isumaqanngilaq kingusinnerusukkut Wikimediamit nammineerluni akuerineqassasoq; siullermik [[$langcom|Oqaatsinut ataatsimiititaliamit]] akuerineqarnissaa pisariaqartippatit. Takuuk [[m:Requests for new languages|Oqaatsit nutaat pillugit qinnuteqaatit]] annerusumik paasisaqarusukkuit. :::* Misilitsinnerup oqaasianut taaguuteqartitsinermut isumaqatigiissutit ataqqikkit, siunissami quppernerit wiki-projektimut ilumoortumut nuunneqarnissaannut ikiuiniarlutit. Misilitsinnermi quppernerit tamarmik (ilanngullugit skabelonit aamma kategoriit) immikkut ittumik (prefiksi atorlugu) aammalu ataqatigiissumik ateqartinneqartariaqarput.

~2025-36432-74 (talk) 02:39, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

The existence of the Wp/sty incubator

Hello everyone! I don't speak English, so if you have any questions about the text, please ask me. I wanted to raise the issue of the existence of the Wp/sty incubator. This section hasn't been developed for a long time, and it's unlikely to be developed in the future, as few people speak the Eastern dialect of the Tatar language (Siberian Tatar). The Siberian Tatars, a sub-ethnic group of the Tatars, use the Tatar Wikipedia, which already has a significant number of articles. The incubator was created in 2014, and so far it has not had any active community writing articles. I believe that Wikipedia in my native dialect is not viable and will not be able to be realized, as we have not been using this dialect for a long time. It is better to focus on the main Tatar section. Mizgel (talk) 23:56, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

The viability of a language is not merely determined by one native speaker's opinion. There are 150,000 native speakers of Siberian Tatar and this is not a small number. The Mirandese language has 14,000 native speakers and they have a Wikipedia created already. Wp/sty has received contributions from native speakers throughout all these years including in 2025. In my opinion there is no evidence that Wp/sty is not viable. I believe the opposite is true. --DaveZ123 (talk) 18:03, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

Yes, exactly. As long as the content is alright, it can be kept. If the content is bad, however, like in the case of well-meaning (?) "language hijackers" who don't know the language, but still try to contribute, we can delete it. @Mizgel, since you seem to have some knowledge of the language, could you tell us whether or not the content looks alright? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 21:34, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

Yes, I know this dialect, and I could help with the content, but I won't. The reasons are described in my other answer. Mizgel (talk) 17:21, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

Only you didn't take into account that this is not a separate language, but a dialect of the Tatar language. There can be a lot of speakers of different dialects in different languages, but no one recognizes them as separate languages and doesn't create a Wikipedia for them. Chinese has a lot of dialects with hundreds of thousands of speakers, German has the same, and so on. So why should we create a separate Wikipedia for the Tatar dialect? What makes us different? Have you asked the Tatars of Western Siberia if they need a Wikipedia in their native dialect? Just because a couple of activists decided to separate themselves doesn't mean that all the speakers of that dialect have done so. I'm sure you understand that your actions regarding whether or not to create a Wikipedia in a particular language or dialect have a significant impact on the future development of these populations. In this case, creating a Wikipedia in the Western Siberian Tatar dialect could potentially lead to a split within the Tatar nation. Please do not be the ones to create this divide. Mizgel (talk) 17:19, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

The Crimean Tatar Wikipedia is already created separately from Volga Tatar so the Tatar nation is already split on linguistic lines. If you want to see yourself as one Tatar nation then that is your personal choice; however others have their freedom to write in their native language regardless whether or not you think it is a 'dialect' and labelling them as 'language activists' is not helpful at all. --DaveZ123 (talk) 13:07, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

You have just shown your incompetence. The Crimean Tatars, despite the fact that they also call themselves Tatars, are a different nation. However, the Tatars of Western Siberia are the same Tatars as the Volga Tatars. Have you heard of an ethno-territorial group? Well, the Tatars have them, and the Tatars of Western Siberia are one of them. It's not me who considers it a dialect, but the entire scientific community, and all reasonable people do not separate themselves from the Tatar nation. I understand that you have no connection to this issue, so you may not care about the outcome. However, I would advise you to research this matter before making any statements. Mizgel (talk) 14:21, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Here is a Wikipedia passage: "The Siberian Tatar language is independent of Volga–Ural Tatar. The dialects are quite remote from Standard Tatar and from each other, often preventing mutual comprehension. The claim that Siberian Tatar is part of the modern Tatar language is typically supported by linguists in Kazan and denounced by Siberian Tatars." --DaveZ123 (talk) 05:35, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

You should know better than anyone that Wikipedia is not an authoritative source. Provide scientific facts, not obscure quotes. Mizgel (talk) 17:47, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

Request edit of Special:AbuseFilter/31

Request to add the language code created via the SIL Change Requests after the creation of the abuse filter (only Living languages), including: sjc, phj, xdq, cnq, bpc, lsw, rsn, gov, ugh, lqr, imt, lgo, oie, ajs, dsz, lsc, rib, rnb, egm, nww, zcd, wdt, wyn, hnm, luh, lgs, lvl, ykh, wtb, zlu, nzr, uly, pze, rsw, izm, ikh, tvi, zem, cxh, dyr, dsk, eud, ynb, oak, osd, scz, olb. Also, remove the language code retired (i.e. wrd, pii, dek) or merged into another language (i.e. ajt, snb, lak, smd, tmk, ajp, prp, nte). Note: I am not sure whether constructed language should be included (i.e. isv, tok). Add them as well if appropriate. Thank you very much. Sun8908 (talk) 19:15, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

@Sun8908 Some of those codes will need further reviews on eligibility, e.g. Noakhali's oak where some users commented at m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Noakhalian that it isn't eligible for us to contribute, it's just a dialect of Bengali and recommend to just integrate Noakhali contents into Bengali Wikipedia. Better to let real speakers of those to request addition one-by-one-ly. No objection on removal of retired/merged codes. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:14, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

The objective of creating the abuse filter is to avoid someone to creating a page with non-existent ISO code. I believe all codes were added when the abuse filter was created. Whether or not to create the page shall leave to the community to decide, but I don't think it should be done with an abuse filter. Sun8908 (talk) 04:29, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

I would rather suggest, as per Special:SiteMatrix, to remove cs, eo, fa, he, nl, pl and uk, because for both Czech and Dutch, all 8 projects are having their subdomains, as for the rest (Esperanto, Persian, Hebrew, Polish and Ukrainian), only Wikiversity is still testing for each one (which has Beta Wikiversity as a separate test platform). Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:42, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

No objection to removing the languages that won't be on Incubator anymore. Sun8908 (talk) 11:31, 6 December 2025 (UTC)

Wp/atv existence

Hello everyone. The Northern Altai test project existing here since 2009, but it hasn't any content exept of four articles, which definitely doesn't written in any of the Northern Altai literary standarts but on Southern variation, they are

• Wp/atv/Дэвдатт Паттанаик
• Wp/atv/Каинчин, Jыбаш Бӧрӱкович
• Wp/atv/Компьютердиҥ вирусы
• Wp/atv/Кӱӱгей Чырбыкчинович Тӧлӧсӧв

Not a single page with the same names exists on the Altai Wikipedia, so I think it would worth to import them and delete Wp/atv. Таёжный лес (talk) 21:17, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

P.S. Same message was made on Altai Wikipedia's forum one year ago, but nobody responded. Таёжный лес (talk) 21:59, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

@Таёжный лес Well, it has a Meta-Wiki RFL verified as eligible, that may also need to account when processing such a merge. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:24, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Yes, but only one of the supporters seems to have Altai knowledge. Таёжный лес (talk) 09:08, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

XML file of Wp/pt-br before its 2010 deletion

Assuming you still have the XML file for it, it might be transferrable to Incubator Plus.

This is also assuming this is even worth it. I'm not sure, but it's probably at least worth a shot. Kxeon (talk) 05:10, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

@Kxeon: I don't think an XML file of it exists; the list of XML dumps of deleted projects can be found in Special:ListFiles, unless there's another/older venue I'm not aware of; surely @MF-Warburg knows.

Anyways, I took a look at a sample of around 10 articles from this list of deleted articles, and they were all just one- or two-paragraph copies (with some spelling changes, I assume) of the corresponding ptwiki articles from the time they were created (2007–2009), so I'd say there's nothing there that is of any value now. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 18:03, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

I am not aware of anything. --MF-W {a, b} 23:33, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

Page creation

I can't create a page Ellen Meshack (talk) 14:16, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

Which page are you trying to create? --MF-W {a, b} 15:08, 20 November 2025 (UTC)

Wp/lrc/User:-revi and Wp/lrc/poo

Wp/lrc/User:-revi is not created by User:-revi. Wp/lrc/poo looks like a stupid joke. I propose to remove these pages. Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 08:44, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

Deleted. --MF-W {a, b} 23:32, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. Could you also look at Wp/xkv/Lyndall Gordon, which looks like a vandalism, although the creator had been creating only normal pages before. Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 08:51, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

The user seems still active, could ask them. --MF-W {a, b} 13:59, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. I contacted the user and decided to withdraw my proposal for deletion. Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 11:35, 6 December 2025 (UTC)

If nobody want to add anything,

This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. 13 December 2025

林詩朗9982 & 林詩朗92

Obvious sock of 林詩朗 --Min☠︎rax^«¦talk¦» 13:23, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

Added one. --Min☠︎rax^«¦talk¦» 05:47, 6 December 2025 (UTC)

Wp/cr

I wanted to give the landing page of Wp/cr some content:

{{box|A Wikipedia in Cree previously existed as [[:kl:]], however it was closed in 2025 due to being too small, too inactive and being a target for vandals. No content was imported to the Incubator because it could all be recreated if needed by natives. See [[m:Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Cree Wikipedia]].}}
{{test wiki
| status = tocreate
| language = Cree
| meta = 
}}

For some reason, however, it says that it's an invalid code though. I don't want to make another test edit on the main page, but me running into this error on the lander implies it'd happen anywhere. This isn't intentional, right? What's going on? Kxeon (talk) 20:44, 4 December 2025 (UTC)