User talk:IJzeren Jan

Будьте жывы-здоровы:-)

If you are a contributor now, you can win the "Siberian prize". Voting every week on Fridays: http://samir74.livejournal.com/932177.html This is just some present from Siberia:-) --Yaroslav Zolotaryov 09:36, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! But I'll have to read a lot of Siberian before I'll ever be able to contribute anything by myself. You know I was sort of cheating! ;) If there's anything that would warrant a "Siberian prize" for me, it would undoubtedly be my article on the Dutch wikipedia (which I'm quite satisfied with, to tell you the truth)! Cheers, IJzeren Jan 21:08, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello! As soon as other admins will be allowed, we shall elect IJzeren Jan as A Honorable Siberian Wiki Admin:-)) --Yaroslav Zolotaryov 10:01, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! :) In the meantime, please have a look at this and correct my (undoubtedly numerous) errors. Cheers, IJzeren Jan 10:32, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Želajų vam zdravja i ščęstnosť! --Skorzeniewski (talk) 23:23, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Hvala vam lěpo i vzajemno!  IJzeren Jan (besěda) 23:32, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:Users:By language:isv

Ahoj! Ja sozdaval Category:Users:By language:isv - mysli že isv-Latn i isv-Cyrl ne sut jeziki. Wp/isv nedostavaje kategoriju dla vse koristniki ktory mozhet pomogati.

Zdes ne imajemo spisok vseh koristnikov, da? TutČas (talk) 15:14, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Dobry denj! Da, toj problem ješče ne jest razrěšeny, že isv-Latn i isv-Cyrl uvažajut se odděljnymi jezykami. Myslju, že tuto vrěmenno razrěšenje jest dobro, a kogda MS Vikipedija bude realizovana, bude takože razrěšenje za tutu kvestiju. S pozdravom,  IJzeren Jan (besěda) 22:48, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Meta "artificial language"

meta:Talk:Language_proposal_policy#Replace_term_artificial_language_with_term_constructed_language. TutČas (talk) 10:59, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Hvala za popravky! Slovo -dozvaljati iz slovnika

Pozdrav, Jan! Hvala za popravky v člankah.

Slovo dozvaljati v slovniku koristaje korenj -val, ale čto mysliš o tom, že večinstvo prirodnyh jezykov koristajut korenj -vol. Togda kako korenj -val koristaje se v smyslu -valiti.

Kako gledaju iz slovnika, jedino poljsky i belorussky směnili korenj na -val v tutom slovu.

V russkom jezyku my govorimo дазвалять (prěmo kako belorusi pišut!), ale pišemo дозволять. GlěbDyndar (talk) 09:35, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Pozdrav! Da, v principu imaješ pravdu. Ale kombinacija dozvoliti/dozvoliti jest pytanje regularnosti. Uže davno jesmo izslědovali, kako najlěpje (i najregularněje) prěobratiti sovršene glagoly v nesovršene. Jesmo sdělali inventarizaciju srěd različnyh možnostij, napr. -iti > -jati, -iti > -ivati i t.d., s dolženjem prědhodnoj samoglasky ili bez. Nu i togda došli jesmo k izvodu, že najbolje razprostranjena opcija jest napr. odnoviti > odnavjati, razsmotriti > razsmatrjati, razgovoriti > razgovarjati, stvoriti > stvarjati, izvolniti > izvalnjati... Ale sejčas vidžu, že slovnik takože ne jest sovsim konsekventny: jest obvadnjati i odvadnjati, ale navodnjati. Tutčas myslju, že mogli byhmo formy dozvoljati, razgovorjati, dozvoljati dodati kako dodatočne formy. Ili daže dozvolivati, razgovorivati...?  IJzeren Jan (besěda) 22:01, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Hah, zajmlivo. Ja ne znal, že to byl generaly princip formovanja slovnika. Budu znati tutčas. Hvala za pojasnenje.

Kako razumeju, prěměna glasok v korenju i jej pravila sut različne v različnyh slovjanskyh jezykah.

V cělom, izhodeči iz filozofskyh principov formovanja MS (najvysša razumlivost za vseh slovjan), za mene dobra ideja jest koristanje form korenjev, ktore sut harakteristične za večšu kolikost jezykov. Ale, može byti, v něktoryh momentah možlivo takože shranjati prvonačelno pisanje korenja.

Takože napriklad, v slučaju s obnoviti > obnavjati vidimo, že ukrajinsky, russky, cešsky, slovačsky, makedonsky i bulgarsky ne imajut prěmenu v -nov- > -nav-, kogda dodajemo sufiks -jati i shranjajut iznačelny korenj -nov- navet s sufiksom -jati

A vot v slovu razgovarjati vo vseh jezykah, ktore koristajut tuty korenj (pomimo ukrajinskogo) jest prěmena korenja govor-govar, kogda dodajemo prefiks (govoriti > razgovarjati) i tut koristanje prěměny samoglasky za mene izgledaje dobro.

obvodniti i obvadnjati takože kako i dozvoljati. Jedino poljsky i belorussky imajut prěměnu s sufiksom -jati s korenjem -vod-

Dodatočne formy igledajut za mene lěpym variantom, ibo togda vně zavistnosti od togo, imaje li prěměnu korenj v prirodnom jezyku ili ne imaje, vsegda člověk smože najti slovo v slovniku, a ostalym to bude razumlivo. Možlivo koristati jedino universalno pravilo, ale togda pojavjajut se neprirodne formy za mnogyh jezykov.

Ne znam, to jest velika diskusija. GlěbDyndar (talk) 01:17, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

takož napriklad

odobriti > odobrjati v slovniku shranjaje prvonačelny korenj, bez obriza na vid glagola i na sufiks -jati GlěbDyndar (talk) 01:55, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Using the <indicator> tag

I went to your user page and found you were using <span style="background:#FFFFFF;position:absolute;top:-32px; right:1px;z-index:1">[[Image:Flag of Interslavic.svg|40px|link=Wp/isv/Glavna stranica]]</span>.

Conveniently, I was just researching how the Template:Top icon worked, and I found the <indicator> tag. So I decided to try to apply it here too.

• I made one without the white span: <indicator name="isv-mainpage">[[Image:Flag of Interslavic.svg|40px|link=Wp/isv/Glavna stranica]]</indicator>
• Or with it, if you really need to have it for whatever reason: <span style="background:#FFFFFF><indicator name="isv-mainpage">[[Image:Flag of Interslavic.svg|40px|link=Wp/isv/Glavna stranica]]</indicator></span>

Kxeon (talk) 02:22, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

Translation request

Hi, could you please translate this to Interslavic?

Glosa is an artificial auxiliary language designed for international communication. It has several characteristics:

• Its pronunciation is regular, and its spelling is phonetic.
• Its structure is very simple and based on meaning.

Thanks. Caro de Segeda (talk) 13:33, 1 August 2025 (UTC)

Hey, it's been a while! Of course, no problem. And in return, you might want to write a few sentences about Interslavic in Basque, or Maltese, or whatever. Deal? ;-)

Anyway, here goes:

Glosa jest umětny pomočny jezyk, stvorjeny v lětah 1972–1992 Ronaldom Klarkom (Ronald Clark) i Uendi Ešbi (Wendy Ashby) na osnově jezyčnogo projekta Interglossa iz 1943 g. On imaje slědujuče harakteristiky:

• regularny izgovor i fonetično pravopisanje,
• mnogo prostu strukturu osnovanu na značenju.

Cheers,  IJzeren Jan (besěda) 16:19, 1 August 2025 (UTC)

I created the article in Sicilian. Caro de Segeda (talk) 08:27, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

Great, thank you @Caro de Segeda! Just send me the rest of the Glosa text, because I can't imagine that was all. ;) Cheers,  IJzeren Jan (besěda) 12:51, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

That's the rest:

• It is an analytical language with no inflections or genders. A small number of words handle grammatical relations.
• Above all, Glosa is neutral and truly international due to the use of Latin and Greek roots, which are used in the international scientific vocabulary.

Caro de Segeda (talk) 16:06, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

Well then, @Caro de Segeda, here we go again, from the start:

Glosa jest umětny pomočny jezyk, stvorjeny v lětah 1972–1992 Ronaldom Klarkom i Uendi Ešbi na osnově jezyčnogo projekta Interglossa iz 1943 g. On imaje slědujuče harakteristiky:

• Izgovor jest regularny, a pravopisanje jest sovsěm regularno.
• Struktura jezyka jest mnogo prosta i osnovana na značenju.
• Glosa jest analitičny jezyk, bez fleksije i bez gramatičnyh rodov. Gramatične odnošenja oprěděljaje mala kolistkost slov.
• Prěd vsim, upotrěba latinskyh i grečskyh korenjev koristajemyh v medžunarodnoj naučnoj leksikě v jezyku glosa prijaje jegovomu nevtralnomu i zaisto medžunarodnomu harakteru.

I do have one question though: what exactly do you mean by "its structure is based on meaning"? Cheers,  IJzeren Jan (besěda) 19:05, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

korektorska prosba

Pozdrav, pane Jan!

Imaju tekst, ktory už něktory čas prěd tomu jesm prěklal na MS. Može byti, někogda sdělaju iz njego cělu knigu na MS... Mogu vas prositi ob korektrorskoj uslugě?🙂

Tekst ne jest veliky.

Hvala.

GlěbDyndar (talk) 01:29, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

Očevidno, s prijemnostju!  IJzeren Jan (besěda) 12:33, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

Tut jest tekst

To ne jest doslovny prěvod iz kitajskogo, ale prosto interpretacija několikyh tekstov na anglijskom. Kak vy znajete, Tao Te Ching ne jest možlivo prěkladati bukvalno na moderne jezyky. Moj cělj byl sdělati razumlivy tekst, zatom vitaju popravjenja leksiky, pravopisa, frazeologizmov, i t d.

Hvala. GlěbDyndar (talk) 05:03, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

Krasiva rabota! Budu pročitati, ale prěduprědžaju, že to ne bude na dnes ili zautra! S pozdravom,  IJzeren Jan (besěda) 09:38, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

Volapük

Hi, sorry to bother you with these things but could you please:

• delete this page?
• this, this and this articles?

Thank you. As you can see they are quite short and I provided the text in English to make sure the translation is correct. Caro de Segeda (talk) 09:14, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

Big problem in the Interslavic community

Hello, Jan.

I'm writing this to you as to member of Interslavic committee. I do have a problem that I would like to discuss privately first. I've sent you an email. GlěbDyndar (talk) 14:44, 21 October 2025 (UTC)