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Current events   [edit]

• 6 September 2020 Japanese Wikivoyage has been created
• 17 August 2020 Ladin Wikipedia has been created
• 29 July 2020 Kotava Wikipedia has been created.
• 21 July 2020 (from Multilingual Wikisource): Ligurian Wikisource has been created.
• 20 July 2020 Moroccan Arabic Wikipedia has been created.
• 22 June 2020 Shan Wiktionary has been created.
• 20 May 2020 Goan Konkani Wiktionary has been created.
• 20 May 2020 Awadhi Wikipedia has been created.

Question about a particular wiki, currently in the incubator

Hello, to whomever decides to reply!

This is my very first question,so forgive if I am asking something that should be obvious from the get go.

I would like to ask in which phase is the Montenegrin version of the wikipedia and if that is an objective possibility at this point? From what I can tell, none of it has been edited since late 2017. Back then, there was talk of ISO 639-3 code, which Montenegrin did get (cnr), but beyond that I couldn't find anything that would signal any kind of development and possible publication of the actual Montenegrin Wikipedia pages outside of the incubator... Is the linguistic situation different now to what it was in 2017 and 2018?

Kind regards!

-- I use my outdoor voice, mostly... Fresh out of ideas (talk) 07:27, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Fresh out of ideas: Totally fair question. Issues like this are handled by a Language Committee at m:. If you have nothing better to do for the next week or so, see:

• m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Montenegrin
• m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Montenegrin 2
• m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Montenegrin 3
• m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Montenegrin 4
• m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Montenegrin 5

Hope that helps. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:38, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Koavf: Now, that's what I call a treasure trove! Thank you, Justin! Thank you so, so much! -- I use my outdoor voice, mostly... Fresh out of ideas (talk) 08:10, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

No problem. Bundle up with some tea and leave your phone off the hook for a few hours. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:18, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

A relevant sister project: Wikispore

It seems like no one has formally mentioned Wikispore to the community here. This project would act in a similar fashion to Incubator but instead of providing a space for building up new language editions of existing projects, this would be essentially an incubator for new sister projects. I recommend anyone interested take a look. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:41, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

bugfix request: problem displaying Meitei script (mni) in Chrome on Windows

I saw the https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wt/mni/ project and i've noticed it's tofutext in Chrome on Windows, but i can see the text properly in firefox and edge, and i know i have a couple of different fonts installed that include this alphabet Noto Sans Meetei Mayek and the Microsoft font family Nirmala UI. If i want to view it, i can use firefox or edge, but chrome on windows is a fairly popular setup so others might be having the same issue. I couldn't find many other websites using this script, and the two i found also had problems on chrome, but possibly these can be over-ridden with some setting adjustments on the project, since with the right settings i've managed to get the script to display in chrome on en.wikipedia.org

example

output	format	Chrome on incubator. wikimedia	Chrome on meta. wikimedia	Chrome on en.wikipedia	Firefox on incubator. wikimedia	Firefox on meta. wikimedia	Edge on meta. wikimedia
ꯏꯟꯗꯤꯌꯥ	font-family:'Noto Sans Meetei Mayek','Nirmala UI','Noto Sans';
ꯏꯟꯗꯤꯌꯥ	{{lang|mni|ꯏꯟꯗꯤꯌꯥ}}
Template:Script	{{Script|Mtei|ꯏꯟꯗꯤꯌꯥ}}
ꯏꯟꯗꯤꯌꯥ	none

Irtapil (talk) 16:46, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

What could be done to fix this? --MF-W {a, b} 11:28, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

may be adding above working font family code to MediaWiki:Common.css or MediaWiki:Wt/mnw/common.css. Ninja✮Strikers ^«☎» 08:57, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

I would be happy to add a code that works, if someone suggests it. --MF-W {a, b} 18:46, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Done Meitei font designation has been applied. I checked that I can read content in Google Chrome. --Sotiale (talk) 02:38, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Antof_g_sta : probihited word?

¿Por qué está prohibida la palabra "Antof_g_sta"? Cuando intento marcar el nombre de la ciudad y su región en esta simple tabla (Wp/avk/Goleem_ke_Tcilea), es imposible y hay un mensaje de vandalismo potencial. Y en esta mensaje también. Curacaví Marisel (talk) 07:51, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

@Curacaví Marisel: Lamento volver a preguntar, ¿recibió algún mensaje de error cuando intentó agregarlo? En caso afirmativo, publíquelo. Además, haga esa edición y guárdela. La razón por la que lo dije es por la razón por la que no se realizó la deshacimiento en esa página (solo verifiqué la página Historial). Adithyak1997 (talk) 07:58, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Hola @Curacaví Marisel: Acabo de rellenar la tabla con la información de "Antofagasta". No tuve ningún problema. Como dice Adithyak1997, intenta validar de nuevo insertando esta palabra, y anota en detalle el mensaje de error que recibas, si es que aún hay alguno. Tal vez esto se deba a un problema con el filtro "AbuseFilter" o con la IP de su conexión. Amistoso. Nevatovol (talk) 09:20, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

--copy to User:MF-Warburg, User:Ebe123, User:StevenJ81, User:AbuseFilter

No funciona para mí. Intento crear el artículo "Antof_a_g_a_st_a", y recibo estos dos mensajes:

1. Error: Warning: This action has been automatically identified as harmful. Unconstructive changes will be quickly reverted and may result in your account or IP address being blocked from changing.
2. If you believe this edit to be constructive, you may click Save page again to confirm it. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Antivandalism

Y cuando quiero forzarlo:

1. Error: This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your edit was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Antivandalism

No lo entiendo. Curacaví Marisel (talk) 21:14, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

This is a false positive of an abuse filter hitting you because you are not yet autoconfirmed. I have given you the confirmed status manually now, which should solve the problem. --MF-W {a, b} 08:43, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Nevatovol, Adithyak1997, MF-W, gracias a todos. :) Curacaví Marisel (talk) 17:16, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

I see you're still prevented from creating the page. I disabled the filter for now, it clearly isn't working as intended. --MF-W {a, b} 21:42, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

The account is actually created 2 or 3 days back only. So I think he needs to become an implicit user of the group and not through granting it. MF-W has granted him right as a confirmed user and not an auto confirmed one. I have actually understood the difference between both but I once again think he will have to wait. I also think that he might have to continue his other edits on Incubator so as to implicitly become an autoconfirmed one. Sorry for repetition (if any) in this comment. Adithyak1997 (talk) 02:48, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

No, the filter checks for having the autoconfirmed right, not for being in that group. The issue was different, but I think the whole case is solved for now. --MF-W {a, b} 18:45, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

m:Requests for comment/Default import sources

m:Requests for comment/Default import sources is an interesting RFC. If accepted, it would, in my opinion, be beneficial also to new wikis. I recommend everyone to check it out and opine there. --MF-W {a, b} 00:30, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Opt-in to global sysop (GS) wikiset

Hello,

I would like to suggest you opt in to the global sysop wikiset, allowing global sysops to do maintenance there. This would allow global sysops to help you with anti-vandalism actions, especially when crosswiki. What do you think?

--Martin Urbanec (talk) 19:24, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

I wouldn't mind this. I recently thought about it as well, it would be useful especially since at the moment we have an influx of vandals from other wikis taking out their boring beef here. --MF-W {a, b} 11:37, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Note: This was Done. I had requested the wikiset change here. --MF-W {a, b} 13:11, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Visual Editor out of beta

Currently, in the Incubator the Visual Editor is beta feature and it's disabled by default. This means that it's not available at all to anonymous editors, and not obviously available to logged-in users either.

I suggest moving it out of beta, so that all editors will be able to easily choose which one to use. This was already done in almost all Wikipedias and in many other wikis. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 07:06, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Support as proposer. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 07:06, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

But this is actually available to all the users who have account in Incubator right? I am anyway able to use it. So, I am not sure what blocks others from accessing this. Adithyak1997 (talk) 07:13, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes, that's why the proposal specifies that it's not available to anonymous editors at the moment. --MF-W {a, b} 11:38, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Support Nevatovol (talk) 07:58, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
• I suppose this makes sense. --MF-W {a, b} 11:38, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support Amqui (talk) 11:54, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support Silva Selva (talk) 11:54, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support --Iñaki LL (talk) 19:15, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support I personally would not use it but editors here should have the most basic features that they would expect if their wiki graduates from the Incubator (e.g. Visual Editor and Vector skin). I obviously also support having code editing (and Monobook) as backups. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:37, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support. ··· 🌸 Rachmat04 · ☕ 13:51, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support Absolutely, no reason not to. I've been enjoying the New wikitext editor that seems to be available on most namespaces on this wiki, and am, for the most part, absolutely loving it. It's a fair superior source code editor with the ability to use shortcuts to insert text stylization. I'd also support us opting in to beta test the DiscussionTools extension that is already enabled in most, if not all, talk namespaces over on MediaWiki. Dmehus (talk) 01:50, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support Ninja✮Strikers ^«☎» 04:52, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
• Support Blue Sonic (talk) 07:41, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks to everybody. Requested in Phabricator: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256957 --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 11:12, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

NB: It was enabled. --MF-W {a, b} 11:39, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Delete my user page please

I don't need a user page or a talk page, and the talk page attracted a vandal today. Can someone delete it? Thanks in advance. Binksternet (talk) 04:33, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Done. --MF-W {a, b} 11:03, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

User:AboriginsDude

Please block this user. They are posting a photo of Bin Laden on my user page as well as other Wikipedia users. -WayKurat (talk) 09:11, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Any admins here please? The user's vandalism is ongoing and keeps reverting our edits. -WayKurat (talk) 09:18, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

They're not very active, have reported at meta. Þjarkur (talk) 09:21, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Project deletion is not complete

It is shown in Wp/awa page that the test is moved to independent domain. But there are pages present here, which I think needs to be deleted. An example page is Wp/awa/अधीर रंजन चौधरी. It actually exists in the local wiki as well. Sorry if I am too early to ask, as the project was exported to new domain on May 20 only. Adithyak1997 (talk) 17:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

The deletion of created projects is tracked at I:SCL. It's currently a bit behind, but we always leave one or two projects not deleted to check/demonstrate the functions of locking page editing and giving redirects to the new wiki. --MF-W {a, b} 14:57, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Module can't complete

I have added conversion of Meetei Mayek to IPA Module:Wt/mni/mni-pron. Help me this module completion. Afingba Mangang (talk) 12:51, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Permission for language creation not seen

Please check Wp/crn. In that page, under requirements, it's shown no request. I would like to know whether the wiki along with subpages needs to be deleted or not. Adithyak1997 (talk) 17:55, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Well, the language code is real, but as languages from Mexico are not written in Cyrillic script, it's nonsense and was deleted. --MF-W {a, b} 11:36, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Download the incubator encyclopedia for use in Kiwix

Hello, I would like to know the process to download the hatchery project and use it in Kiwix. We are currently interested in using the encyclopedia that is in the hatchery in territory where there is no connectivity. For this we need to download the incubator to use it with Kiwix or mediawiki. Could you please help me with the consulting at this point? Thank you very much. M. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mpbonillap (discussion • contribs) 02:46, 8 July 2020 (UTC).

What exactly is it that you are asking for? --MF-W {a, b} 15:28, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Celtic Knot talk about the Incubator

Play media

Video talk

Slides in PDF

Hi,

The Celtic Knot conference begins today. See meta:Celtic Knot Conference 2020 for full information about it.

One of the talks there is by myself, and it's about the Incubator. It's mostly about the things that I raised on the Community Portal in 2018 and also on the page Incubator:Reform discussions.

Comments, positive and negative, from anybody who feels related to the Incubator in any way, are very welcome.

I am quite sure that the rest of the conference is very interesting to people in the Incubator community, too, so check out all the talks! --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 09:55, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your interesting talk. Just a minuscule comment about slide 25, "Every page has to be in a category, added manually": There's no policy that pages need to be put into a category. But of course the more annoying point, that if a category is used, it needs to have a prefix, is true. --MF-W {a, b} 12:28, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Wiki is now Fandom

I was just translating Help:Manual into Swedish and noticed that there was this link on the ninth row that linked to wikia. Now, Wikia doesn't exist anymore but rather they've changed name and domain to Fandom.com. So the link here doesn't work. Could someone fix it? --Sabelöga (talk) 07:20, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

The interwiki link "wikia" still works, even though it now lands at "fandom". --MF-W {a, b} 13:18, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

You're right about that, though I opened it in the editor and it produced an error, but maybe that happens with all prefixes now that I think of it. --Sabelöga (talk) 15:15, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Templates with just the project name

Hi, I've noticed there's some templates in test projects just called Template:Wp/xyz (such as Template:Wp/arq) which means the pages won't get imported if they eventually get approved (as they would be imported to Template: which is impossible to access). Maybe an Abuse Filter should be set to disallow users from creating pages with names with just the project bit in the Template and Module namespaces as well as their respective talk pages --Nintendofan885 (talk) 22:08, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

I deleted that page now, as it was unused and could be problematic. But the premise "won't get imported" is not necessarily true, so I don't see a pressing need for an abuse filter. Better to contact users who create such templates (if any) and ask them to choose a better name. --MF-W {a, b} 01:07, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Oh ok, thanks. The "won't get imported" bit was just because I originally thought they wouldn't be imported but then forgot to change the first bit of the message when I realised they would --Nintendofan885 (talk) 08:29, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

NEW: Lists of technical resources and recommendations for smaller language wikis!

Hello everyone, As part of the Small wiki toolkits initiative, a Starter kit has been developed for smaller language Wikimedia wikis! This Starter kit lists resources, tools, and recommendations in technical areas (e.g., templates, bots, gadgets, etc.) relevant to smaller wikis that are just getting started. Small wiki contributors can use it to make their community's workflow easier. You can now use and promote the Starter kit in your wiki community, and start translating the landing page and its subpages in a language you want.

If you have any questions, ideas for venues where it should be shared or wiki pages where it should be linked, or any other suggestions for improving it further, please share on this talk page.

If you are interested in helping with the Small Wiki Toolkits initiative and can offer help with running workshops, developing toolkits, or exchanging problems and challenges in smaller wiki communities, add yourself as a member here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits#Members. --SSethi (WMF) (talk) 18:36, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Does the MassDelete gadget work as intended here? It's not working at mul.ws

Since s:lij: just graduated from s:mul:, we have thousands of pages to delete. It's pretty exhausting doing it manually and while MediaWiki:Gadget-massdelete.js is very helpful, the "DELETE ALL PAGES!" option is not working, leaving me having to click 6,000 times. Does delete all pages work here? If so, can someone help me decode why it's not working on mul.ws? Thanks. Additionally, I tried a pywiki solution outlined at mw:Manual:Pywikibot/PAWS and could not get it to work. If anyone wants to help me with that it would be appreciated but that seems much more involved. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 12:22, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes, a fake Special:MassDelete appears and works like a charm. There is no "DELETE ALL PAGES" button though, it just says "Delete". But my knowledge of JS in non-existent, so no idea what could be done to make it work for you. - Maybe User:Ooswesthoesbes can help? He did mass-deletions on oldWS in the past, if I recall correctly. I could also help you with a pywiki solution, probably. --MF-W {a, b} 13:15, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

@MF-Warburg: I was just confused: there is both a gadget (which makes the "DELETE ALL PAGES!" text) and a script (which creates the psuedo-special page). If you look at the logs, you'll see that it's working just fine at mul.ws. Thanks for responding. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 13:52, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

On s:mul:Category:Ligure a red "DELETE ALL PAGES!" appears, as well as a red "X" behind every single page. By using that, the category should be cleared within a few minutes, and it used to do that, but indeed. Something is altered and it no longer works. So unfortunately, the only solution I see is by using a bot with temporary admin access. --OWTB (talk) 15:30, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ooswesthoesbes: Please see above: the massdelet.js script works just fine. See s:mul:Special:Log. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:01, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

I have a small suggestion. Since it's informed by Koavf that it worked recently, please check if you can identify the edits which are made on the Mediawiki namespace. Since Koavf is experienced, I think you can also try by checking the console section in the inspect option by adding ?debug to the url (I don't know whether you have tried this). Adithyak1997 (talk) 16:07, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

@Adithyak1997: s:mul:MediaWiki:Gadget-massdelete.js works just fine, actually. I was wrong. It is a different gadget that doesn't work as I expected. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:01, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

So, it's resolved then? --OWTB (talk) 18:10, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Resolved enough, yes. The very quick method doesn't work but the pretty quick method does. My labor is reduced by 99% and my time is reduced by 95%, so I am happy. Mieëvaadj. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:22, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Alright :) Unfortunately, my knowledge of JS is non-existent as well, because it's sad the tool does not work. --OWTB (talk) 06:27, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ooswesthoesbes: No, the tool did work. See the log at mul.ws. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:56, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

You mean MassDelete right? "DELETE ALL PAGES!" does not work for me. --OWTB (talk) 07:19, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ooswesthoesbes: MassDelete via Special:MassDelete works but it does not work if you put your cursor in the field for "Other/additional reason:" and hit "Enter": that was the problem I encountered before. You need to click on the "Delete" button or use tab to focus on it and hit enter. "DELETE ALL PAGES!" does not work. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:09, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Question

Is Incubator similar to the Sandbox in Wikipedia ?

Helppublic (talk) 16:01, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

No.

--MF-W {a, b} 17:25, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

@Helppublic: There are no WMF wikis that are purely sandboxes. testwiki: and test2wiki: are used for testing and have pretty broad allowances on what can be posted. Incubator, s:mul:, and betawikiversity: are for starting actual projects. wikispore: is for testing possible sister projects. The closest to what you are thinking of is likely testwikidata: .—Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:03, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Translation Tool

Hi, is there a way to use the Translation Tool available in full-fledged Wikipedia for incubators? I find it easier to use the side-by-side method, even if there is not a suggested machine translation that we can use as a starting point. I've tried looking for it here, but haven't been able to find it so far - maybe I missed something? सदस्य (talk) 23:54, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Unfortunately not, see phabricator:T89089. --MF-W {a, b} 09:51, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Ah, got it, thanks! सदस्य (talk) 00:15, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Apparent (very annoying) bug

I have two issues for people endowed with both technical gifts and special permissions. Here comes number one:

I have become active at the Zealandic Wiktionary recently, and it struck me that everytime I (or someone else, for that matter) create a link structured [[Wt/zea/something|something]], a pipe is added automatically when I start editing the page. Since I sometimes make mistakes or omit things, I have to edit pages several times and the pipes start to accumulate. today I saw a page with [[|||Wt/zea/something|something]].

This means everytime I edit an entry, I have to manually remove the pipe(s) in all links. This can be quite time-consuming for entries with, for example, elaborate translation sections. I really don't get it. Who the heck wrote this sadistic bit of crap code? Is it a bug? A mistaken request? Please developers, editing Incubator is already so challenging because of the constant prefixing of things. Having to remove dozens of pipes everytime I adapt an existing entry drives me completely crazy and slowly takes my will to live (or at least to edit Incubator)... Steinbach (talk) 12:30, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

I am trying to reproduce it. See [1] (can be deleted later). It shows the added pipes when viewing the source code, but not when looking at the diff. Is it the same for you? --MF-W {a, b} 15:22, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your swift reply. I edited your very test page, with the same result. Of course, it would be fine if it always went that way. But this morning, I had an instance where the pipes appeared to be permanent and had to be removed. As I mentioned, they even appeared three times in the source code, although the history shows them only once. Steinbach (talk) 17:00, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

I did some more testing and changing the test-wiki personal preference also does nothing. I have no idea what's going on here; probably it's best to file a bug on Phabricator. --MF-W {a, b} 22:50, 16 August 2020 (UTC) It's the AddPrefix gadget. It does not actually add a pipe, it merely shows a pipe when you have that gadget turned on, because that's the sign to the gadget that it should not add another prefix in that place. --MF-W {a, b} 22:57, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Special characters

Can someone please expand/adapt the special characters available for direct insertion? The standard set only features a very limited number of (mostly) wiki-syntax options, and alternative sets are limited to the characters needed to write one particular language. For the Wiktionary entries I create, I need more characters than those in which the Zealandic language is written. I need letters with macrons for etymology sections, and IPA for pronunciation sections. So can we please

• Add IPA as a set
• Add a few special Latin characters (including but no limited to macrons) to the standard set? Or alternatively
• Add Proto-Indo-European and other reconstructed languages as another set?

Oh, and by the way: The special characters still feature "Aeres" as an option. Aeres has long been debunked as a hoax language, so it should be removed. Steinbach (talk) 12:30, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

I added the IPA characters which enwiki offers: [2]. Does that work for you? I mean that in both senses - is that configuration ok, and: does the character insertion work? For me it doesn't (clicking there has no effect), but I am also not sure if it worked before I made these changes, as I haven't used the function for a long time. When this works, I'll add another set for special Latin characters. Thanks for pointing out that Aeres should be removed, I did so. --MF-W {a, b} 23:54, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks again for your quick action! It doesn't work for me either: when I click the characters, I suddenly jump to the top of the page. But at least I can now copy and paste the characters directly in the same tab, which is quite an improvement already. I hope you'll notify us when this glitch gets fixed, but never mind: I'll be patient.

I also hope you'll add the Proto-languages character set as an option. You can check the "Proto-languages" set at the English Wiktionary for inspiration. Steinbach (talk) 10:13, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

User:Steinbach: I have now replaced our old system (which apparently was using outdated code) with the "new technology" from enwiki. It works now again and is a gadget enabled by default; if you don't have javascript enabled, you will see a box for copying-and-pasting. I added the Proto-languages set from English Wiktionary as well.

@ anyone reading this: I did not recreate our old language-specific sets of characters, as I think many of them were not even used anymore and can now easily be found under the general Latin characters. But if any test-wiki community wants a specific set (re)added, we can do so. --MF-W {a, b} 11:50, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

I see, thanks again for your nearly immediate action! It works wonderful now and the range of characters is more than adequate (though I doubt whether we need a separate set for "IPA (English"). Now I can easily write the elaborate entries I wish for. Steinbach (talk) 14:38, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Renaming

Please rename Wp/ten and all subpages, see meta:Wikimedia Forum#Renaming. 217.117.125.72 13:34, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

To what? Also, no. --MF-W {a, b} 14:33, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

@MF-Warburg: May bе Wp/10? 217.117.125.72 16:26, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Interwiki Attribution

I am worried that a lot of articles created by copying from other Wikimedia pages are lacking adequate attribution. en:Wikipedia:Copying_within_Wikipedia recommends the following style of comment, retroactively added if need be:

Content in this edit is translated from the existing French Wikipedia article at fr:Exact name of French article; see its history for attribution.

Will an initial comment such as

Taken from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:CS1_errors

suffice, or is the legalese above needed. There is quite a bit of material with initial comments of that form. --RichardW57 (talk) 10:59, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

If the legalese is required, is DIY translation to a language not normally used for legal documents appropriate? Does it make more sense to stick to English? --RichardW57 (talk) 10:59, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Active wikis which might get their own site soon

I see that there are some wikis listed in featured wikis as active. Is there a tool to determine which wikis are active, or do we manually add active wikis to that list?--evrifaessa ❯❯❯ talk 11:02, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

It's a manual selection. --MF-W {a, b} 12:49, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

@MF-W Is it possible to add Wp/nia to the list? --Rano (talk) 21:04, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

As it says on the page (visible when editing): "CONTRIBUTORS: if your test wiki is active, you are allowed to add it to the appropriate section; but only 8 projects should be featured at the same time." --MF-W {a, b} 23:08, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Just added it. --Rano (talk) 04:50, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Projects having Common.css

Is it possible to a project to have a custom MediaWiki:Common.css page? As I saw, the Euskara Wikivoyage (here) project has a custom Common.css, although it is not possible to create one manually. I think this type of thing doesn't work for projects, but I don't really know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (although I want to know 😛). Thanks in advance. -- Iohanen (João) (talk) 08:40, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes, it works. Interface-admins can create/edit them for the community. Please make requests on I:AN. --MF-W {a, b} 08:52, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

MF-W, we can't have our own gadgets per test wikis, can we?--evrifaessa ❯❯❯ talk 09:29, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! -- Iohanen (João) (talk) 11:32, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

@Evrifaessa: You may not be able to configure gadgets for each of your projects through user [Preferences] setting, but you can configure all users editing in your project to use the same gadget, theoretically. --Sotiale (talk) 06:28, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

New Wiki ...

Hello , I´m Create a wiki . It's Wiki PE — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Once4O4 (discussion • contribs) 14:29, 4 September 2020 (UTC).

"Pe" is not a valid I:ISO 639 code. I had to delete the pages. --MF-W {a, b} 15:22, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

"Pe" is valid (it´s Peru)— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Once4O4 (discussion • contribs) 16:31, 4 September 2020 (UTC).

They only accept real language codes, not country codes. - Iohanen (João) (talk) 11:02, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Sitelinks

Hi! Is it possible to add sitelinks to incubating languages, eg. Link between w:Ghana and Wp/dag/Ghana for example? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Masssly (discussion • contribs).

@Masssly: Yes but most projects would discourage that. Until a project has graduated from Incubator, the amount of incoming links from established projects would probably be very minimal. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:29, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Justin. I'm curious to know how it is done anyway :) -—M@sssly^✉ 19:17, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Because the quality of entries here would be assumed to be lower. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:34, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

.Also, of course, because the interwiki link functionality for wikis that have their own subdomain is provided by Wikidata "automatically". --MF-W {a, b} 21:30, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Message box colours

I imported message box templates and modules from the English Wikipedia, but I don't get coloured backgrounds. Is this a mistake I've made, or is it caused by the Incubator features we rely on? An example of the lack of a yellowish background for text can be seen in the message boxes at the top of Talk:Wp/nod/ᩀᩪᨶᩥᨣᩰᩫ᩠ᨯ. --RichardW57 (talk) 12:18, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@RichardW57: Hi, RichardW57. I think the problem you are having can be solved by modifying css on your incubating project. But I cannot use IA permission... So, @MF-Warburg:, Could you add the content of this edit to MediaWiki:Wp/nod/Common.css? --Sotiale (talk) 15:18, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Done! --MF-W {a, b} 15:40, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

@Sotiale, MF-Warburg: Thank you. --RichardW57 (talk) 18:03, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

The name of the Talysh language

Hi dear admins. I should say, the name of the language "Tolışi". But name of the language is wrong in Wikimedia Incubator (толышә зывон). Please help us change the language name.--Patriot Kor (talk) 10:58, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

The language names come from CLDR, I think. Pinging User:Nemo bis who is knowledgable about it (Hi!). --MF-W {a, b} 15:47, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

How to use the Visual Editor cite template in incubator

Hi. I was looking to find the cite template on Visual Editor. Does it work in the incubator, if so, how do I enable it? I'm working on Wp/dag. —M@sssly^✉ 19:21, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

If we define MediaWiki:Wp/dag/Visualeditor-cite-tool-definition.json in your incubating project, you may be able to use Cite button in Visual editor. This should have basic citation templates ready for your project. From what I remember, .json can also be applied to individual incubating projects. --Sotiale (talk) 14:00, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Sadly, seems to work only with site-wide setting :( It will be inconvenient, but please use Wp/dag/cite news, book, etc through [Insert] -> [template]. --Sotiale (talk) 14:39, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Infobox person on Wp/dag

Hi, could someone please help me to create an infobox-person template for use on Wp/dag. -—M@sssly^✉ 22:35, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

It seems that the template was imported as it is from enwiki, etc. The problem, as I understand it, is that it doesn't have the modules and other templates needed to make it work. If you import it properly, it will work without any problems. First of all, it must be clear that you need some templates and related modules(Module:Wp/dag/InfoboxImage, etc). Please let me know if you find it difficult to solve. --Sotiale (talk) 13:32, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi Sotiale, I don't have the knowledge to solve/fix it unfortunately, and would appreciate your help. Thanks. —M@sssly^✉ 13:37, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Masssly. This place will soon be on Monday(23:03, sadly), so I can't fix it right away. But if I have enough time, I'll try to fix. Can you wait a few days? --Sotiale (talk) 14:03, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes I can wait, thanks again. —M@sssly^✉ 14:06, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

You could get User:Iohanen/Template:Infobox _person, you would just have to translate it to your language (it's very simple, but if you understand it, you can expand it as you need). - Iohanen (João) (talk) 21:54, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

The template presented by Iohanen doesn't use complex modules. So if you can understand the template's structure, you might be better using the template. Otherwise, if you are familiar with English Wikipedia type, I will do before Wednesday. --Sotiale (talk) 12:56, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Myself and the people who're going to be working on Wp/dag are existing English Wikipedia editors, and so we're more familiar with the English Wikipedia type templates and would prefer that. —M@sssly^✉ 13:10, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

There are some css changes that need to be modified, and I haven't completed it all within today because I logged in late to do something else today.. I will contact you when it is done. --Sotiale (talk) 15:15, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

@Masssly: More detailed templates should be brought in if necessary, but the basic ones will work. See this page. Please let me know if you have any problems. Also, I can't speak your language, so localization is up to you. Tell me if you need help. --Sotiale (talk) 07:19, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Sotiale. I'll try it out and give you feedback. —M@sssly^✉ 23:22, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

How to create a new prefix for a new Wiki? It can?

Hello , I have a question : How to create a new prefix for a new Wiki? Once4O4 (talk) 17:39, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

You need to have a valid ISO-639 language code (like pt for portuguese) and you need to choose a type of project (Wikipedia > Wp, Wiktionary > Wt). I recommend you to read the Help:Manual :) - Iohanen (João) (talk) 22:27, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Other question : How to crete templates in new wikis , what code use to create templates in Wikimedia Incubator ?? Once4O4 (talk) 13:47, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

To create templates under testwikis you just need to use Template:Wx/xyz/Template_name (every template needs to be prefixed). About the code, I would recommend you to ask help to an admin, or read the Small wiki toolkits (this one is located on Meta). - Iohanen (João) (talk) 18:56, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) If you're not sure about getting started after reading the manual, Requests for starting a test is also the way to go. --Sotiale (talk) 13:51, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Disruptive spamming by ignorant people

Dear community,

None of you will have missed the recent controversy around the Scots Wikipedia, which through the years has been flooded by a user who knew little or no Scots. Now Incubator is filled to the brim with similar content. People, no doubt in good faith, trying to help often dormant test wikis by filling them up with content in what they think is the relevant language.

Of course, for a wiki to be approved, a sanity check is conducted to see whether the content is really in the language it claims to be. But wouldn't it be better to stop people right away? After all, they are taking other people's time when their mess must either be corrected or be deleted. Moreover, they scare away potential competent newcomers ("what the f*** are they thinking? Is this supposed to be my language?"). There are a few users around here - I won't drop any names - who have done a lot more harm than good in ways like these. I think we should just ask them to leave (or at least to stop) and delete their contributions. It may not be courteous, but it will greatly benefit the project.

By the way, we should do the same with so-called test wikis that have zero content in the language itself and only say "if you speak this language, please write stuff" - especially if these pages have been around for literally years with no trace of involvement by even basic level speakers. I mean "projects" like the this one.

A further reason to delete such content is that such zealousness often stems from POV pushing or vanity. Many of those never-developed test wikis were suggested by a user who wants every Wikipedia to include an article on his non-notable church. Another user, a Jesus freak, flooded test Wiktionaries with Bible books. (Please keep in mind that I have nothing against Christianity, it's just that two prominent examples of disruptive editing happen to come from POV pushing Christians.) This is really the last thing we want. So can we please, please, please, be a little more critical and purge Incubator from these profoundly unhelpful contributions? Steinbach (talk) 15:56, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

I agree with you, if there are such users, it's best to "stop them before it's too late". Feel free to request deletion of articles not actually in the correct language on I:RFD. The same with empty test-projects. I have, for the same reason, recently started to delete Requests for new languages on meta which were made by people without a connection to the language. Even though I think a page inviting contribution like the Nama example you linked might still be ok, we already have the test-wiki info pages (generated automatically or via template) for that without the need for a condescending sentence like "Nama speakers are encouraged to create as many top-quality articles as possible." --MF-W {a, b} 19:25, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Template:Db

The template was deleted as an "unused unprefixed template". I suggest it is recreated as a redirect to Template:Delete, as this is a common shortcut across multiple sites. It should be clear why this is unprefixed, and no wonder a deletion template is unused either. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:06, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

• @Danny B.: Pinging the deleter. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:47, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
• I don't think this is needed. "Db" isn't even an abbreviation for "delete". --MF-W {a, b} 15:45, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
  • @MF-Warburg: It's an abbreviation for "delete because". 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:11, 20 September 2020 (UTC)