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بلؤچی (رسم الحت ئه ربی) اسکرپٹ جهلسریء تاک پئیم ‌؟ Gom Wikipedia[edit]

Dear MF-Warburg Where are the pages in Romi Konkani Script ? The Discover asked if I could volunteer to bring them on the main page. I shall be happy to help import them from the incubator. Only need to know the steps and process to be done. awaiting reply

R Fernandes

Support : Request to include Latin script Konkani in the gom Wikipedia[edit]

Hello Language Committee, Painstakingly I have worked to build up articles in the Latin script Konkani on Gom Wikipedia. I have added more than 800 pages approximately. And also others have contributed. There is a lot of Konkani knowledge available in Latin Script which needs a platform to put it together in one place. This will be accessible to the Konkani speaking community spread world wide. We are not getting any grants. It is our love for our Mother tongue and the desire to make its knowledge accessible to our community worldwide.

The Konkani speaking community located outside India speak the mother tongue Konkani at home. But the script is an issue for them to access. As not all of them can understand the Devanagiri or Kannada Script. The Latin script is internationally known. There are many languages which do not have script of their own but use Latin Script. Tourist and other people who do not know the vernacular scripts will find the Latin script helpful also, Since Goa is also a Tourist destination.

I have used a software to transliterate articles from Latin Konkani to Devanagiri Konkani and these have been posted in the Gom Wikipedia. But as I have mentioned not all can read the Devanagiri or Kannada Script, Latin Script becomes handy since all know the Latin script. It would be injustice to the Konkani language and spread of its knowledge if the Latin Script is not included as many who cannot understand the vernacular script will have no access. They will find Gom Wikipedia unaccessible just becuase of the script. I also intend to continue transliterating literature available now on Gom Wikipedia into Latin Script.

Do consider this earnest and sincere request to include the Latin Script articles of Konkani in the Gom Wikipedia. Together the Devanagiri and Latin Script Konkani will enrich each other for the spread of knowledge in Konkani to Konkani speaking community which are spread all over the world. They are mostly settled in Canada, United Kingdom, Portugal, Australia, USA, Pakistan and the Middle East. These people do not know the vernacular script but know the Latin Script and will be able to read and understand Knowledge in their Mother tongue - Konkani. Hope Wikipedia does no injustice to the Latin Script Konkani articles. It is already suffering due to suppression from various sources.

Hope the Language Committee does not suppress the Latin Script Konkani which has been used for more than 400 years and is still being used daily

Thanking you in anticipation of a positive action

Rosario Fernandes

Creating pages is too complicated[edit]

Suppose a new user wants to create a new page. They type a plain title into the search box, and it tells them that they need to log in, and then set preferences so that "we can tell you which page you can create". Well, perhaps they figure out the whole prefixes system, and then they search for a title including the correct prefix. Even if they've already created an account by this point, they will still be given the message "Please set your test wiki preference so we can tell you which page you can create!", even though the prefix is right there. So, suppose they click the link to preferences, and log in or create account if they haven't yet done so. The page contains a large "Basic information" containing all sorts of stuff, and then a complicated "Internationalisation" section requiring the user to set an ISO 639 code (a term which most users probably don't even recognize) into the "Test wiki language" (and not the "Language" box) buried in that section. And then they click save, and then they can create pages.

In reality, most will have given up by this point. This is obviously a serious problem.

So here are my proposals:

  1. If a user searches for a title that contains a valid prefix, have the create-page link right there. Modify MediaWiki:Wminc-search-nocreate-nopref as necessary.
  2. If the user searches for a title without a valid prefix, put a dropdown or something right there on the search page. If the user was searching from an existing test wiki, assume by default that's probably the one the user wants.
  3. Add a special page which sets the user's test wiki simply by being there, so that people can be invited to help with a test wiki by being sent a simple link.
  4. For users who don't have a test wiki set, add an accessible link (perhaps in the sidebar) to set the currently-viewed test wiki as the user's test wiki.
  5. Allow IPs to set cookie-based test wiki preferences. Do it with plain javascript if necessary.

--Yair rand (talk) 16:44, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

These are good ideas. The best way to get them implemented is by writing a patch to the Incubator extension, if you can program, I daresay. --MF-W {a, b} 23:47, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Yes, adding all those prefixes in the wikilinks and categories makes editing in Incubator much more cumbersome than it is in the main Wikipedia. If there is some way to get rid of the prefixes, and make Incubator wikis simple like the main Wikipedia, it would make it much easier to get non-coders to participate. --Djembayz (talk) 00:26, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Indeed. IMHO the goal of Incubator should be to make it as close to a normal subdomain as possible. Unfortunately, there haven't been many software developments towards this for several years now. --MF-W {a, b} 01:03, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

References template[edit]

I'm having problems with Referencing in the Dagbani Test Wikipedia. The usual Template:Reflist template does not work. I need help.
Masssly (talk) 11:10, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

SignWriting Keyboard on Wp/ase[edit]

The ASL Wikipedia (Wp/ase) is very much in need of an input method to allow editors to actually do anything, so I've been working on one (User:Yair_rand/SWKB.js) for the past year or so. I'm giving a presentation regarding it tomorrow at the SignWriting symposium, which will be a great opportunity to potentially recruit a whole lot of editors, assuming the input method is turned on by default by then. So, if an admin could edit the relevant JS page (copying the contents of this to MediaWiki:Wp/ase/Common.js) within the next 18 hours or so, that would be very helpful. --Yair rand (talk) 20:32, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello Mr Yair rand ! I can create it, if do you want.--Ibrahim khashrowdi (talk) 21:04, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Are you an administrator? If so, yes, I would very much like it to be created. --Yair rand (talk) 21:07, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
I am translate admin--Ibrahim khashrowdi (talk) 21:11, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Please see it , its ok or not ,need to change.--Ibrahim khashrowdi (talk) 21:35, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
It is fine. Thank you very much. --Yair rand (talk) 22:47, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Tunisian Wikipedia (Wp/aeb) and Wiktionary (Wt/aeb)[edit]

We will do our projects in Tunisian Arabic in Arabic Script. I had found a solution so that all the Tunisian People who do not have an Arabic Layout can contribute to Wikipedia and Wiktionary and I have also found a solution for major linguistic problems.

So, I would like to remove my application to support aeb-latn and work on aeb. I ask about what I should do.

Yours Sincerely,

--Csisc (talk) 13:15, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

We made a software that can convert Latin Script to Arabic Script. So, we can use Wikipedia Language Converter. However, we need someone who can translate the software from javascript to PHP and we need someone to implement it.--Csisc (talk) 12:49, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Csisc Create a ticket and tag with project mediawiki-language-converter. Mjbmr Talk 14:09, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Mjbmr: Thank you very much. --Csisc (talk) 15:00, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
I ask if I can explain the words in French in a Tunisian Wiktionary... --Csisc (talk) 12:40, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
Well, consider how other Wiktionaries do it. --MF-W {a, b} 20:56, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Wikidata sources with incubators project[edit]

I make template with Wikidata sources. In incubators project not allow direct link with Wikidata. How get wikidata code (ex wikidata:Q649) in my template?--Kaftaj (talk) 10:11, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

I think as long as bug T54971 is not resolved, this is a problem with "arbitrary access". It might be useful to ask on d:Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team. --MF-W {a, b} 22:05, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Am looking for Wikipedia in Esan language[edit]

The one descirbed here [1] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (please reply on my talk page) 01:13, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

It would be at Wp/ish, if we had it. --MF-W {a, b} 23:02, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. I will see what I can do. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (please reply on my talk page) 04:06, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

HotCat for Wt/lad[edit]

Hi everyone, I would like to implement HotCat for the Ladino Wiktionary project. It desperately needs it as it has many categories and it is quite difficult and time consuming to add them manually. I don't know how to do it, so I would be very grateful if anybody could give me a hand with it. Thank you very much. --Universal Life (talk) 09:19, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

@Universal Life: You can add HotCat yourself as a Gadget under Special:Preferences. —Justin (koavf)TCM 16:36, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Justin, thank you very much :) --Universal Life (talk) 20:17, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

@Universal Life: Thank you--I love Spanish and I would like to learn more about Ladino in the future. I'm glad that you're doing this work. —Justin (koavf)TCM 02:46, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

@Universal Life: I mentioned this project on es.wikt. —Justin (koavf)TCM 18:30, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Moving a page[edit]

Vær så venlig at flytte „Wp/jut/Encyclopædi” til „Wp/jut/Encyklopædi”. Jeg har lavet en stavefejl og kan ikke rette den. Det er godt at efterlade en omdirigering. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jyllanj (discussioncontribs) 13:19, 23 September 2015 (UTC).

@Jyllanj: Yes check.svg Done. —Justin (koavf)TCM 13:31, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Tak for det!



I'd like to make some translations, preferably from English to French. How do I proceed? Is there any need? Thanks.

I suggest you start by logging in. --OWTB (talk) 06:35, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks All of the sister projects to this one have mw:Extension:Translate which makes translating a smoother process. Also, you can check out translatewiki:. —Justin (koavf)TCM 14:51, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Special:Translate is the interface of the extension mentioned. --MF-W {a, b} 21:26, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Westrn Balochi language[edit]


I am asking result for approving west. balochi language wikipedia (Wp/bgn), can anyone answer please! thanx.--Ibrahim Khashrowdi (TalK) 20:20, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello! anyone can answer?--Ibrahim Khashrowdi (TalK) 00:00, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
This will require more information from the Language Committee, which I am not a member of. Usually, approvals are granted depending on the size and relative activity of the project. I am not exactly certain if this is a suitable place for asking for approval from Langcom. --Hydriz (talk) 13:15, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
The more suitable place for asking for approval from Langcom is Here.
I am not a member of the Language Committee (Langcom) either, but here is my observation:
  • On this request page, it only mentions and User:Ibrahim khashrowdi and User:Bal.Och as part of the Editing Community. I advise that you add more names onto that Editing Community list, especially the names of the native speakers who had remained active editors over the past few months.
  • Another part of the approval process is to "verify test project content with a reliable neutral source, such as a professor or expert" ([2]). You can request Langcom to find a Professor or Expert in the Western Balochi language and Langcom would then contact that Professor/Expert to verify the test project.
--Philip J (talk) 23:03, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks a lot Hydriz for answer and thanks a lot Philip J for good and useful information.Our project active for few months but it's no accept by Langcom. --Ibrahim Khashrowdi (TalK) 22:48, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Two general questions about working here[edit]

  1. Why does the gadget "project specific logos" not work on Wiktionary pages? (It seems to work on all others.)
  2. If I am writing a page that is eventually destined for "Project" namespace, am I supposed to position it here in mainspace as Wt/lad/Viksionario:xxxx or in Incubator space as Incubator:Wt/lad/xxxx?

Thank you. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:38, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

In reply:

  1. No idea. Perhaps another user can answer that question.
  2. Please use "Wt/lad/Viksionario:xxxx". Your pages will be about Wt/lad, not about Incubator itself :)

--OWTB (talk) 14:02, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. (I wonder if we ought to have some kind of "Project-test" namespace for that. But as long as the eventual import task successfully dumps such pages into the "Project" namespace of the new project, I don't suppose it matters much.) StevenJ81 (talk) 14:54, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
I think the main reason for that would be that it would be very difficult to move all the project pages of the already existing test projects into that namespace, as their names would be different for all languages and projects. Also, that would require a lot of link-fixing etcetra. The current system seems to work, so in that case it is: don't fix if it ain't broken :) --OWTB (talk) 15:09, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Too right! StevenJ81 (talk) 15:32, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Answered my own question #1. See here: MediaWiki:Gadget-ProjectSpecificLogos.js. "[T]here is no common Wiktionary logo at the moment."
Feh. We should pick one for now; anyone successfully spinning off a project can decide what they want to use. Meanwhile: I found two very nice ones at Commons that have no writing on them. See User talk:StevenJ81, where I posted them. Any thoughts? StevenJ81 (talk) 17:50, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
I've never seen the second one in use on a Wiktionary, the first one seems better. --MF-W {a, b} 00:02, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
Some Wiktionaries are using the second one, but since the main portal uses the first one along with the majority of the language editions, I think it would be better to use the first one. --Hydriz (talk) 12:56, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
I happen to agree with both of you, but had wanted to offer a choice. So when you feel sufficient time has passed to consider this proposal acceptable, the location of the file is File:Wiktionary_Ko_without_text.svg (on Commons).
PS: My request for Test-Admin status is mature at this point. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:59, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done Since there were no other comments, I went ahead with the change. --Hydriz (talk) 03:45, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Awesome! Thank you. (;-) StevenJ81 (talk) 13:45, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

My empty UserPage[edit]

I used a delete-template I thought with a motivation (user request), but there is written "no reason. Anyways the reason is I want to see a copy of my MetaUP, great feature with deleted personal page. Thanks in advance for deleting it ASAP :-)  Klaas `Z4␟` V:  09:46, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Flagging a page for deletion[edit]

How do I do that? I'm in the WP:mus (Creek/Muscogee) incubator.

This is an obvious test page:

WP templates don’t work. — Alarob (talk) 16:42, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

I added {{Delete}} with the reason "Test page". If you think that rather than being a speedy-delete candidate it should go through RfD, then remove the template I added and go to Incubator:Deletion requests and put in an RfD request. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:05, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
I deleted the page. Also, Incubator:Deletion requests are only for deleting the whole test wiki (especially if it does not fit in the Incubator). They are not for deleting individual pages like on Wikipedia. If you wish to discuss the deletion of a specific page in a test wiki, there are talk pages that the editors of that test wiki would use to discuss such matters. Hope this helps. --Hydriz (talk) 13:00, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
That wasn`t clearly described over there. Thanks for the clarification. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:13, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Great, at least now we have feedback on what to improve on. Thanks! --Hydriz (talk) 13:20, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Actually, Hydriz, I went back and looked at Incubator:Deletion requests. Look at the section "requests for deleting single pages". Most of that section refers to speedy deletion. But the last bullet point says, "In other cases, you may put a request below." I interpret that to say that RfD cases are supposed to be listed on that page. That's not consistent with what you just said, so by all means let's clarify that. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:59, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
I have clarified it in the leading sentence of the page, hopefully it is clearer. --Hydriz (talk) 01:27, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
That works! Thanks, Hydriz. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:55, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Failure of hotcat (and my global.js) on some pages of Incubator[edit]

Hotcat does not seem to be working for me in Incubator. (Additionally, on project pages of the Incubator, though not on general pages, my global.js is also not working.) Can someone please take a look? Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:45, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Sounds more like your browser or caching issue. Does refreshing (or hard-refreshing) work? Also, your global.js should not contain importScriptURI and importStylesheetURI, I believe they have been deprecated a long time ago. Open up your browser's console to see if there are any errors or warnings. --Hydriz (talk) 02:39, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
I'm not a programmer. I added that code because I wanted to try to use Cat-a-lot to fix categories in these test projects and on ladwiki. That seemed the best way to go, unless you know of a bot that can do some of this easily. (Example: within Category:Wt/lad/Sujetos, I have some subcategories starting "Wt/lad/lad ..." that I want to fix back to "Wt/lad ...") I do wonder why I can't get Cat-a-lot to work here, but that's a different discussion. And I wouldn't know how to look in my browser to find an error or warning.
The failure of hotcat (and my global.js from Meta) predates that code, anyway. I have purged caches, refreshed, etc., and none of that seems to work. To me, the oddity is that the scripts work on regular Incubator pages (like this one or the Main Page), but not on test pages. That said, I tried deactivating the project-specific-logo gadget to see if it was interfering, but that didn't help.
So if you're a coder and can help me diagnose this, it would be great. If not, maybe I'll ask someone over at Meta for help. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:38, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
PS: Changed importScriptURI and importStylesheetURI to two instances of mw.loader.load. If I was supposed to do something else, I don't know what, or how. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:39, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Looks like it has got to do with MediaWiki:Gadget-addprefix.js when I was debugging. I added a condition to make sure that it only operates when the user is editing. Do check if HotCat works now (along with the other tools that you mentioned). --Hydriz (talk) 02:45, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
HotCat "sort of" works now. When I come to Incubator cleanly it works. But often after I make a change using HotCat, it is not working after the page is saved, and I have to wait a bit/reload from server/bypass cache/etc. to get it working again. I haven't been able to find a pattern. StevenJ81 (talk) 18:06, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
You probably will have to refresh your browser's cache. I tested again and HotCat does not appear to have any problems. --Hydriz (talk) 01:44, 4 November 2015 (UTC)


Perhaps there should be a (non-prefixed) copy of {{User SUL Box}} and maybe {{User Meta-Wiki}} here. I created (imported) lad versions for my projects, but since my user page is not just a project user page but also an Incubator user page, perhaps a more general (and i18n-friendly) version should be included. I tried to create one myself, but the wiki won't let me create a non-prefixed template.

See m:Template:User SUL Box and m:Template:User Meta-Wiki for versions that have already had some i18n. StevenJ81 (talk) 23:29, 18 November 2015 (UTC)