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bqi language[edit]

Hello MF-Warburg,
Could you do what is requested here. I do it at the request of @Mogoeilor:. Thank you in advance--Ghybu (talk) 15:13, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Ghybu: Done. Does it work? --MF-W {a, b} 21:27, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Yes. Thanks!--Ghybu (talk) 21:32, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Administrator rights[edit]

I asked to be given administrator rights and nobody answered. Who has to decide whether to grant them to me? --Katxis (talk) 21:20, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Bureaucrats like me do. But requests last for 5 days, so that other users can comment, as is indicated on the page. So your request will be dealt with on 30 January. Best regards --MF-W {a, b} 21:25, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your clarification. --Katxis (talk) 21:28, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
I would also like to confirm the time that a Wiki has to stay on Incubator before final approval. I am adding articles every day and I remember that for the Jamaican Patois one the time was two or three months of continuous work. Is that the amount of time? We have already finished traslating all the messages needed so I presume that it is just a matter of time. --Katxis (talk) 21:31, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
The definition is "at least 3 active editors (they can be different each month, but it should continuously be 3) for the course of at least several months", which means at least 3 months (but the committee has some leeway in its decision). --MF-W {a, b} 21:49, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

I'm back[edit]

I'm still going to have to be on less often for a while than I had been—I can't try my employer's patience too much. I'll probably spend more time here than on other projects, but don't be surprised if I don't react so quickly for a while. StevenJ81 (talk)

Welcome back, I hope all is as well as it can be. You'll be happy to hear that in your absence Langcom woke up and is now handling tons of requests. --MF-W {a, b} 09:39, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Good to hear that. Thanks.
All is as well as it can be; thanks for asking. On the one hand, Mom wasn't overtly sick as late as mid-November, and the whole thing happened in about seven weeks. So it was sudden, and in that sense I'm still getting a grip on it. On the other, her last few days were uncomfortable and awful, and there was no prospect that if she had lived a bit longer, that would have gotten better. So I'm glad she didn't have to suffer longer than the couple of weeks that she did. (sigh) StevenJ81 (talk) 14:47, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Bureaucrats gone mad![edit]

I know ... you've been talking to my therapist, haven't you?

(Of course, you and I know that the "sysop" was really a test-admin, since a bureaucrat here can't de-sysop a regular sysop ... unless the bureaucrat is really you, since you're a steward, and if you've really gone mad, you won't care if you're acting as a steward on your home wiki ...)

Actually, I really do like those case studies you presented. I think they really help the rest of us understand just what goes into that job! StevenJ81 (talk) 22:35, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Heh. I do these questions because the answers almost always turn out to be very insightful (and the steward who started with them isn't active anymore). Of course, writing them is half of the fun. I'm glad that also others like them!
About the issue at hand, much could be written. I actually didn't think of the sysop in the example as a test-admin, but as a normal sysop. But that's just because the question originally took place on a different wiki whose crats I didn't want to offend. The answer I'd have liked to see from the candidate was primarily "I tell the sysop that he has nothing to fear, as bureaucrats can't remove sysop rights on Incubator". Then any combination of stuff would have earned him bonus points, e.g. about how he should seek the opinion of the whole community about the crat's actions; that an objectively rouge crat might be subject to an emergency removal; that it's unacceptable for crats to promote users to sysops without at least having a discussion that is open for some time; etc. But of course the possible involvement of a test-sysop or an Incubator sysop who for some reason rejected to become a crat (or was rejected to become a crat!) makes for interesting commenting material as well. If I had gone mad and removed sysops via Meta, I should be destewarded. Also something to mention :P --MF-W {a, b} 17:38, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Kimberley-nia Bot[edit]


does it still work?

Danny B. 09:17, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

No, I switched to using Special:MassDelete (from the gadget). --MF-W {a, b} 12:17, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

A little problem[edit]

Hi, MF-W. I've been wanting to fix something, on the main page of Nahuatl Wikipedia I can’t fix the width of the page, it is cropped. ¿What it’s wrong with code? I hope you can help me or tell me who can. Regards. --Akapochtli (talk) 13:47, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi, what exactly were you trying to do? What should change? --MF-W {a, b} 05:43, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
I need to adjust the size, you can see the Main Page, how the inferior sections we can't see right, it looks narrower. --Akapochtli (talk) 14:22, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
I am afraid I dont really understand. Maybe you can find better help on m:Tech. --MF-W {a, b} 02:53, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Finally the main page was fixed. The problem was the display with the browser Chromiun (not Firefox), apparently the repetition of commands produced the error. Here are the changes I made.[1] [2]. Thank you very much. --Akapochtli (talk) 13:38, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

need help[edit]

hello can you help us about WP/arq we want to create a new wikipedia

cheers--Bachounda (talk) 20:44, 8 March 2017 (UTC)


  • I don't know how to use {{ping}} here, so just crossposting from "talk:wp/tlh" here, since you seem to be involved. Nicole Sharp (talk) 06:37, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
    • Ideally, I would like to see additional fictional languages added as well. This can be done using either ISO 639-3 "mis-" or the qaa through qtz ISO 639-3 codes reserved for local use (e.g. "mis-navi" or "qna" for Na'vi). As far as I know, Klingon is the only fictional language officially included in the ISO 639-3 standard. Nicole Sharp (talk) 06:37, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Responding at Talk:Wp/tlh. StevenJ81 (talk) 01:18, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Lolcat wikipedia[edit]

I don't understand why you deleted this wikipedia. Lolcat is a full-fledged language, from my POV. --Numberguy6 (talk) 22:11, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

It isn't. However, for simplicity's sake, I'll simply say: It doesn't have an ISO 639-3 code. --MF-W {a, b} 07:59, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Font issue[edit]

@MF-Warburg: sir here in Khowar Wikipedia we are facing a font issue, how can i change the Alvi Nastaleeq font to Microsoft Uighur font or Scheherazade font[3], the special characters i.e. ݯ ݮ ݱ ݰ څ ځ are not visible in Alvi Nastaleeq font, please guide and help me to change the font from Alvi Nastaleeq to Microsoft Uighur font or Scheherazade font- Regards --Rehmat Aziz Chitrali Linguist 11:00, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

@Rachitrali: MF-W can certainly answer for himself. But I have mentioned to you previously that only fonts available under free licenses can be used as default fonts in WMF projects. I'm nearly positive that the Microsoft Uighur font would not be under a free license, and I don't know about the Scheherezade font. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:22, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

administrator in Doteli Wikipedia[edit]

please I have made thee administrator in Doteli Wikipedia. Because there is very bad editing to Doteli wiki.[4] Flag of Nepal.svgRamesh S.Bohara(✉✉) 17:02, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

What do you mean? Do you want to become an admin on --MF-W {a, b} 12:12, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank You[edit]

Thank you for all the special things you do for Doteli wiki. Hats up for your great work!

  • Congratulations!

--Janak Bhatta (talk) 16:47, 27 April 2017 (UTC) & Doteli Wikimedians family


User:Rachitrali is sockpuppetor using different accounts. He already blocked in English wikipedia and according to wikipedia policy sockpuppetor can not use wikipedia for vandalise. Please remove his admin acess on Incubator ( 02:55, 8 May 2017 (UTC)).

MF-W, since this IP addressed you—and because you have more experience, both here and as a steward, I will let you make the call on this. If you want my opinion, though, I would not remove his test administrator (not administrator) access. I think he's paid a steep price already, his participation is critical to this test, and there has never been evidence that he has abused those tools here.
It may be, of course, that we should put a de-sysop question to the Khowar Wikipedia community; perhaps Satdeep could help us write it in Urdu along with English, and to place it in the right location in the Khowar test. But given that Rachitrali is the leader of the team, I think the team is unlikely to wish to desysop him, so this might just be a waste of time. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:48, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

@StevenJ81: @MF-Warburg: Dear sir, Your kind attention is drawn that a group of vandals and fake user i.e. User:Rehmat Aziz Chitrali created a rubbish article about me in English Wiki namely [5] to defame me before the LagCom and Wiki community and illegally used my name to defame me before the LangCom, Wiki Admins. Please see his rubbish and defaming article about me here [6] he is posing himself as Rehmat Aziz Chitrali, please check is IP and my IP, his contributions, and my contributions, his activity and my activity, his email and my email and his edit times, I am unable to locate his present residence and location. Can anybody help me to locate his whereabouts? please see his rubbish user talk page here [7] please check his IP address by Check User or Clerk as he is vandalizing Wikipedia, creating rubbish articles.

It is pertinent to mention here that my IP has been blocked, My User page i.e. User:Rachitrali has also been blocked, I am using my personal User ID i.e. User:Rachitrali, I have no concern with the User:Rehmat Aziz Chitrali this is fake ID to defame me before the LangCom. I request the Syosps, Admin other wikipedians who are using the CU, please check my activity, My contributions and My User:Rachitrali and compare with this fake User i.e. User:Rehmat Aziz Chitrali. I solemnly affirm and state that this fake ID is not related to me. I request the Admn and Syosps to give me the whereabouts the Fake ID users, vandals and sock puppets.

Your kind attention is also drawn that there are many vandals and sock puppets are working against me and using my personal name like this User:Rehmat Aziz Chitrali (Fake ID) by [8] a sock puppet blocked in enwiki he is also using the name of Prime minister of Pakitan i.e.[User:Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif] he is also using the fake ID of [User:Thomas.W2] [User:Daud khan 2], [User:Farhad Uddin] [User:Nisardrosh] [User:Chitralwiki] [User:Sikander Adam]and many dignitaries of Pakistan and Global community, a complete list of his accounts can be seen here [9]. He is one of the enemy of Khowar language wikipedia.

I want to clear here that my account in enwiki has already been blocked, my user page User:Rachitrali has also been blocked, my user talk page has also been blocked, i am unable to edit and create account. Please check this fake ID User:Rehmat Aziz Chitrali, this is totally fake. I request the sysops, admins, bureaucrats to check this fake ID by Check user as this fake ID is not related to me.concern with the other IDs, please convey my message in wiki as you know that I have been blocked.

I request @StevenJ81: and @MF-Warburg: both of my respectable brothers to please remove the fake User ID namely User:Rehmat Aziz Chitrali who is defaming me before langCom, he is destroying my good name, please see his vandalism and sock puppetry here [10] Please assign this task to Check user or Steward to check the IP and give his comments, I checked that he is to Najaf ali bhayo.

As you know that I am helping Wiki by localizing contents from English to Khowar Language, Translation from English to Khowar language, Translating Modules into Khowar languages, cleaning up the articles. An In Shah Allah I'll contribute to this wiki project regrading localization of Pakistani languages and creation of wikis in the languages of Pakistan.

My services as Test Admn has already been revoked from Test Admn to Temporary Test Admin and temporary translator I am not administrator here . If any sock puppet like Najaf ali bhayi suggesting for removal my temporary test admin ship please check his activity and credibility, he is using fake accounts like User:Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif and many other dignitaries of Pakistan to defame them[11].Mr. MF-Warburg why this IP ( is not using his real name? Because he is the sock puppet as confirmed here [12] sir since the inception of Khowar Wikipedia Incubator project he is trying to vandalise khowar wikipedia and as a test admin many time I have blocked this [13] please see his other vandalism here [14], he deleted this khowar wiki here [15], this [16]again deleted this [17] deleted Khowar wikipedia and insterted Arina wikipedia [18], please see his global account details here [19] please check this [20] this [21]. Regards.--RAChitrali 06:15, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Sir, the sock puppet, fake user and blocked user has recently posted unblock request on my behalf here [22] please help me and give me the IP address or whereabouts of fake ID user, as you know that i have already been blocked and i am unable to edit wiki and this fake User:Rehmat Aziz Chitrali using my name to defame me, please do the needful. thanks --RAChitrali 07:41, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
Please go try fool someone else with nonsense claims like "I was already demoted from test-admin to temporary test-admin and temporary translator". I am wondering why I didn't block you along with all your sockpuppets. --MF-W {a, b} 09:01, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
@MF-Warburg: I am extremely sorry and apologize for misunderstanding regarding my test adminship for incubator, please see this change [23] my admin rights from test admin to test admin(temporary) has been changed by someone. Please again accept my apologize and sorry for inconvenience, i'll be careful in future. God Bless you.--RAChitrali 12:55, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
@MF-Warburg, Rachitrali: I'm afraid the confusion about "temporary" comes from me. Once the MediaWiki software started allowing us to put expiration dates on user rights changes, I went through the list of test-administrators and put in everyone's expiration dates. But, of course, all test-admin rights have always been temporary—they have always had a one-year expiration period. It's just that we can actually put that in the software now. So there was no "demotion"—but I can see why it looked that way. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:09, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Piedmontese bible[edit]

Hi, I imported the Piedmontese bible to oldwikisource. Are you still able to run the deletion script so all pages prefixed "Wb/pms/Intrada/La Bibia piemontèisa" are gone soon? :) --OWTB (talk) 11:51, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Yes, done! --MF-W {a, b} 14:11, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
Great, thanks! :) --OWTB (talk) 14:22, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Khowar WP[edit]

Hi MF-Warburg, I'm writing to bring to your attention towards self promotional autobio pages here in the Incubator, created by the subject User:Rachitrali who has been indef blocked on English WP for socking and self promotion. A quick search gives me the following list. could you please speedy delete them since they don't meet WP's notability criteria. --Saqib (talk) 06:20, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

User:Saqib: All these pages are deleted now (some by Rachitrali himself). --MF-W {a, b} 02:29, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Do you have oversight on new projects?[edit]

Over at w:kbp: we already have not only vandalism but vandalism that links to a notoriously bad malware site: Please oversight to remove these links just in case anyone could come across them in page histories. —Justin (koavf)TCM 22:01, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Importing to nl.wn[edit]

(reaction at your question on phabricator) I personally would recommend to delete all the pages instead of clearing out the entire wiki (so don't reset), mainly as this way, the deleted versions will be kept in the archive, so no edit history will be lost. --OWTB (talk) 13:09, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks for reacting! On the other hand, all the old pages will be exported from here to there again, so in the end some pages would have a each revision twice. --MF-W {a, b} 15:46, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Dear MF-Warburg and Urbanecm, I have read that the reopening may be at Wednesday. Now I have planned to work on the preparation on Monday and Tuesday. In order to avoid that I'm doing work in vane, I would like to be sure that I can continue to work on it. In fact I have taken free from work these two days to make it a good presentation at the reopening. So therefore my question: can I work on the project on Monday and Tuesday (Central European Time)?

I have another question too, because I didn't succeed to deal with a MetaWiki problem. Does one of you have the knowledge to resolve this problem?

Best regards and thank you for making the reopening possible! Ymnes (talk) 18:44, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes, you can continue. Editing will be made impossible here technically once the wiki is reopened. Only after that I will export pages. I don't know anything about the second problem, sorry. --MF-W {a, b} 18:57, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for your response. Than I have not taken free from work in vane :-) Ymnes (talk) 19:05, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

I have one more question, however I am not sure if you do the export. As a matter of fact I misspelled some Wikipedia links rather often. For example with a link to bread I linked [[:nl:Bread|bread]] in stead of [[:w:nl:Bread|bread]] Is it possible to correct this error during the import? I wouldn't know how to correct them all manually... :-$ Ymnes (talk) 19:50, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, we don't do that, it would falsify the page histories. However you can surely find a bot owner who will run a bot to fix that. --MF-W {a, b} 19:52, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
OK, no problem, we'll fix that later. Ymnes (talk) 19:56, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
Dear MF-Warburg and Urbanecm, just a little question. Can the reopening be done (very) early in the morning and can we have a message in our Village Pump? Ymnes (talk) 20:55, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Dear MF-Warburg, thank you for importing and reopening (and for the temporary adminship to be able to effectuate things). There are some things left of which I don't know who to ask. So I would like to ask them here and you may have advice.

  1. I don't have much knowledge of MediaWiki. Are there particular tasks that I should do there?
  2. As you can see at the main page, the feeds are all empy, like the Nieuwsfeed (I will recover some others right away). But also the categories are empty. Is it possible to give a purge for the whole thing, so that everything is filled again? We got some explanation here
  3. There are many remaining links starting with "Wn/nl". A good example is Main Page talk and the village pump. Is it possible to repair those links too for the thousands of pages?

Best regards, Ymnes (talk) 16:07, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

  1. No, there is nothing that absolutely needs to be done. But you can look at e.g. the deleted versions of nl:n:MediaWiki:Sidebar to see how to add useful links ther, if the community wants them.
  2. I already filed phabricator:T169881 about it. The script mentioned there will be run on the server, then this problem should be solved.
  3. Oh sorry, it seems like I forgot to remove the prefix from links to templates and categories. These would best be repaired by bot, e.g. using en:Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser. --MF-W {a, b} 16:14, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
We will have to investigate a lot, because many things are new. A question on the AutoWikiBrowser. Are you familiar with it and is it easy for you to do it for us? Ymnes (talk) 16:30, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
I am doing it now (using pywikibot however, but that doesn't matter for the end result ;)). --MF-W {a, b} 20:33, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for your help! One thing we're missing is the tab with Gadgets/Helferlein/Uitbreidingen (Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets). Can I add them or should it be done by for instance you? Ymnes (talk) 15:45, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
You can do that. See mw:Gadgets#Usage for how to enable them. --MF-W {a, b} 17:39, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks again! Can I ask three more questions?
  • Is one of these two pictures all right to use? They say 'wikinieuws' (in Dutch).
  • How do I import an article from another project? Is this operational yet?
  • The visual editor doesn't work (not with me and neither with LiveNieuws). Do you know how this can be repaired?
Ymnes (talk) 10:47, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
Also the 2017 wikitext editor does not work. Livenws (talk) 15:38, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
1: If they are on Commons, surely they are under a free license, so can be used. - 2: Import sources need to be defined first. The way to get this done is to have a community discussion/decision about which wikis should be set as import sources, and then to request them on phabricator. - 3: I reported it on phabricator. --MF-W {a, b} 18:51, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
I have some more questions:
  1. About those two images of Wikinieuws: can I change this myself (if yes, than how?) or can you do this for us?
  2. We have had the discussion yet that we wanted to import. At this moment imports can be expected from both Wikipedia and Wikinews (languages: nl, en, simple, fr, de, es, it). Can I ask you for this or should I go to a certain place to apply for it?
  3. In preferences I have chosen for the time CEST (Central European Summer Time). My watchlist is obeying this, but when I save a message on a talk page, it saves in the UTC time (two hours earlier). This is the same with another user. Can all times be set to CEST?
Thank you for your help again! Ymnes (talk) 16:08, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
1. Do you mean you want to use one of them as the logo of the wiki? To change the logo, please make a request on Phabricator. - 2. As I said, that must be requested on Phabricator. I can do that, but so can you. - 3. The wiki's time zone can be changed - if you request it on Phabricator ;-) Here you can create a new request there. One comprehensive request for all these configuration changes is ok, I think. --MF-W {a, b} 18:47, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
It would be very friendly if you could request that for us on the phabricator. I have never been there and I don't speak that language. I'm not a programmer... helàs. Could I ask this please? Ymnes (talk) 15:49, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
Please tell me then which file exactly should be set as the logo. Also, please give me the link to the community discussion about it (which will be needed). --MF-W {a, b} 00:06, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi MF-Warburg, the logo is located on commons [24], the discussion in the community about the new logo is located (sorry in Dutch) here [25]. The request about the logo is mentioned in the text [26] (above in the hided area, "An additional request is to rename Wikinews in Dutch to 'Wikinieuws', the Dutch translation of the name and to purchase the domains and redirecting to this Wiki"). Huhbakker (talk) 20:25, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
I created phabricator:T170984 for the logo and phabricator:T170985 for the timezone. Please follow these bugs if additional info is needed. By the way, the request to purchase domain names should be directed to the Wikimedia Foundation or Wikimedia Netherlands and Wikimedia Belgium. We lowly admins can't do that. --MF-W {a, b} 20:27, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for your help Huhbakker (talk) 21:39, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Current status of non-Wikipedia tests[edit]

Project All tests Active tests Sufficient activity Approved
Wikibooks 70 19 27%
Wikinews 82 30 37%
Wikiquote 66 21 32%
Wikivoyage 86 35 41%
Wiktionary 193 92 48% Saraiki MinangkabauTacawit
Subtotal 497 197 40% 1 2
Wikipedia 512 237 46% AtayalBakhtiariCoptic
Guianan Creole
Total 1009 434 43% 9 4
See also: Active tests on Multilingual Wikisource
States of Wikiversities

I've finished going through all the non-Wikipedia test projects. See at right. I did this all manually, as you know, so I don't guarantee that I didn't miss something here or there. But I can tell you this:

  • The 487 tests shown here represent about 47.5% of all tests with one or more valid content pages on Incubator.
  • The "Active tests" column is evaluated pretty generously. Any test that had any content addition by a named user since the beginning of 2016 is included there, and so is any test that has at least 25 mainspace pages (even if there has been no content addition since the beginning of 2016).
  • As you see, only three tests actually meet the activity threshold right now. Wy/hi is already marked for content review. Wb/ba is ready for that, and I'd ask you to go ahead and start that up. With respect to Wt/hif, I put a note on the talk page of the TA to make sure s/he thinks the test is ready for review, and haven't yet received an answer. But at a first glance I think it probably is. Of course, I make no warranty about the quality of any of the material.
    Perhaps another 6–8 tests had a period in the past where they had met the activity threshold, but no longer do. (Why the tests weren't approved at the time I don't know.) And there is one Wiktionary test (Waray) that has over 10,000 mainspace pages in it—but is nearly all the work of one user (JinJian} and has never met the activity threshold.

Once I've heard back from Wt/hif and/or you've put it in for content review, I'll post a version of this analysis to I:CP. StevenJ81 (talk) 20:15, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for doing this. I have now proposed the approval of Wb/ba in Langcom. --MF-W {a, b} 21:48, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 21:54, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
I just wanted to write that it seems like you have the impression that the content of the mentioned tests should be verified before they can be approved, and that this is actually not the case. Verification of the content is only done for the first project in a language. Then I noticed that nothing explicit is written about the verification in the language proposal policy (only "if [...] a detailed investigation finds no unresolved problems" ...). I probably knew that before but forgot it. I have however been spreading the claim that the content is verified only for the first project of a given language since 2012, as that is also the practice ;-) (In theory Langcom could also decide to skip it also for the first project or to do it for others than the first one. I suppose the logic behind this practice (which existed before me) is that the community of a Wikipedia would notice and complain if a test-project on Incubator is faking to be in their language.)
By the way, what does it mean that the 487 tests represent about 47.5% of all tests with one or more valid content pages on Incubator? That the other 52.5% of such tests are Wikipedia tests? --MF-W {a, b} 23:12, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
I had assumed there was always a content review. I guess I'm wrong about that. (;-) The logic you laid out there makes sense overall. At the same time, I wonder if it would be worthwhile having a sysop or two from the corresponding Wikipedia just have a brief look for reassurance. (And do we not worry about too many stubs when it's not a Wikipedia?)
Yes, the other 52.5% of such tests are Wikipedia tests. StevenJ81 (talk) 02:21, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
In many cases, the "extra" projects are worked on by users who are also active on the respective Wikipedias. Though, it would be good to post a notice on the local wikipedias when a new project as about to be created, even if it's just to let them know and maybe get more people involved, so the projects don't become inactive after their creation. --OWTB (talk) 10:32, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
I agree with both of you. And we should always worry about too many stubs, because usually nobody else does :p For Wb/ba, I also checked a random selection of pages to get an impression of the quality and trust that the involvement of bawiki bureaucrat Comp1089 means they use Bashkir at all. I am also planning to finally remember to implement that part of the language proposal policy which says that “the community“ will be informed before an approval and be given one week to raise objections. I was thinking about Talk:Langcom which nobody reads, but will also think of relevant local “village pumps“. I previously always forgot this, but it should prevent more debacles like currently with hi.wikiversity. --MF-W {a, b} 14:31, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
In that case, I'd say pull the trigger on Fiji Hindi Wiktionary (Wt/hif), too, with all the appropriate notices. (I haven't heard back from that group yet, but by surface appearances it looks ready.) StevenJ81 (talk) 14:39, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
The stub thing is something I am very aware of. When the Wp/lfn community imported the pages from the LFN wiki, it became apparent that the quality was "rather low" to put it softly. After I raised this issue, the community has started improving the quality of the pages by expanding them or deleting them (User:Katxis). So, I think this is very important to be noted, also by the LangCom. --OWTB (talk) 13:19, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
User:Katxis has been very focused on this issue; we discuss it here, at Ladino Wikipedia, and on email. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:52, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Update with Wikipedia tests[edit]

This is now complete. (Oddly, the total number of subcategories in Category:Incubator:All test wikis is 1,033, but when you page through the category, it only shows 999.) I did this manually, so I can't promise I made no mistakes. But I think this gives a good idea of what we have here now.

  • In particular, I'm quite sure that these eight projects are the only ones currently meeting the 3 months × 3 users × 10 users standard. (There are several others that are close, and/or that met the standard in the last year but no longer do. I'd tackle those next.)
  • Of those eight:
    • Two are already in front of LangCom and could be approved by tomorrow (Wb/ba and Wy/hi).
    • One is in content review (Wp/inh).
    • One more is a second project in a language (Wt/hif), and I think you can put that to LangCom for approval right now.
    • The other four are trickier, and I don't entirely know what constitutes "too 'stub'-by". I think that Wp/lfn is actually in very good shape, though we know that one or two people in LangCom may give it trouble as an auxiliary language. On the surface, I think Wp/gon looks pretty good now, too. I can't quite tell if Wp/arq and Wp/tay have too many stubs or not. (And note that Wp/arq went quiet this month; it's mostly being run out of l'Université Hassiba Benbouali de Chlef, and I presume they are on break now.)

I would add: about 45% of the tests here—and remember that I have deleted a lot of tests with no valid content—are neither substantial (do not have 25 mainspace pages) nor active (no content addition since 1/1/2016). StevenJ81 (talk) 20:13, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

I think you mean Wp/gor instead of "gon" :) --OWTB (talk) 11:40, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
Um...yup. (Sheepish "thank you".) StevenJ81 (talk) 13:05, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
See User talk:Bachounda#Preparing for approval. Based on that discussion, I think we're probably looking at this autumn as a time to review the Algerian/Maghrebi/Darja Arabic Wikipedia for approval. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:40, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Creation of Saraiki wikipedia[edit]

Kindly see the Saraiki wikipedia. Verify and approve the creation. see (talk) 13:49, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

This project needs a broader contributor community and needs to translate the interface before it can even be considered for approval. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:58, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
It's an entirely separate issue (which I'll leave in MF-W's hands) whether the project should be marked as "eligible" at Meta. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:58, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
Now Saraiki wikipedia is ready to be approved, all conditions are satisfied. Dear look the recent situition and approve the same as most work has been done. Sraiki (talk) 06:34, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Now Saraiki wikipedia is ready to be approved, all conditions are satisfied. Dear look the recent situition and approve the same as most work has been done.Sraiki (talk) 14:52, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
@StevenJ81 @Jon Harald Søby @ Satdeep Gill Now Saraiki Wiktionary is ready to be approved, all conditions are satisfied. Dear look the recent situation and approve the same as most work has been done.Sraiki (talk) 16:43, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
Dear, Saraiki people are waiting for Wikipedia and Wiktionary in their language.Please give surprise to the community. Sraiki (talk) 16:40, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Speedy delete[edit]

Hello there, could you erase my user page? Because I want my global user page to be shown in this project. Best regards, Slade (talk) 01:12, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done StevenJ81 (talk) 02:04, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Request for import[edit]

Hello, you can know me as Urbanecm from Phabricator. I'd like you to import w:cs:Wikipedie:Využití mapových podkladů z to Incubator (Template:U would like to use the page). It is a Czech manual saying how can you create screenshots from and how should you license them. Or do you think we should link to cswp when reffering to that manual? Best, --Martin Urbanec (talk) 18:25, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi! I guess if you don't plan to make Incubator-specific changes to the page (which is probably the case, as files should be uploaded to Commons rather than Incubator), it's better to just refer to the original version. --MF-W {a, b} 00:54, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Pashto Wikivoyage[edit]

Hello, can you please tell me that what can we do to Approve pashto Wikivoyage. We created 140 articles and we also editing articles, should we do something more than this??? :)) Khan (talk)

Hi. There needs to be continuous activity by several users (at least 3) over the course of several months. Creating more articles with good content would surely be beneficial. Please also work on continuing the interface translation. --MF-W {a, b} 19:34, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks and if you can change the wikimedia picture from right to the left it will be helpful: Khan (talk) 18:20, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Delete page to complete the renaming process[edit]

Hello, Can you please delete this page (User talk:مصطفى الاكادورى)? because I wanna complete the usurpation process (i.e I forgot to suppress creation of redirects). Thanks علاء (talk) 12:24, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Done. --MF-W {a, b} 13:54, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks علاء (talk) 17:19, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Administrator for Fiji Hindi Wiktionary[edit]

Thank you for your support. Since I had been administrator on the test wiki, can I be administrator on the newly created Fiji Hindi Wiktionary? Girmitya (talk) 11:41, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

(tps) @Girmitya: It is possible that MF-Warburg will give you a stint of two weeks or so for any immediate cleanup needs. But if you want a longer term as sysop there, you will need to do the following:
  • Open an RfA discussion on the new wiki. You can either create a new page for it or do it on the Community Portal/​Forum/​Café/​Village Pump page of the wiki. That must run a minimum of seven days.
  • If that discussion is successful—which on a new wiki basically means that there is little objection to your request—then go to m:SRP and ask the stewards to grant you the permission. Provide a link to the discussion on your wiki. For new wikis, the initial term for an administrator is 3–6 months. We'll mention at SRP that you were a test-admin here; frequently, that makes the stewards comfortable enough to start with six months. After that, you must seek renewal from the community. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:37, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Creation of LFN Wikipedia[edit]

Thanks for getting that going. Just a note: Once the test is exported, don't pull the test-admin flag of Katxis, as he still acts as test-admin on a couple of other projects. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:56, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Hei sir[edit]

We have done as much as possible to first our wiki has been approved, then they said no, so we made More another main space pages, and now is time to get Wikivoyage site, but no one really wants to talk about it, or tell us what happening, like you said Community should be 3 people, first I found 3 people who were here to help me, but they said we think your community will live the project after we make the project, so I'm administrator in Pashto Wikipedia, I used to send messages to people to find big community, so we became 7 people, but we really don't get any answer please approve our wiki if no one worked there, I will request by myself to close the wiki:)) Khan (talk) 05:17, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Marked for translation?[edit]

Hi MF-Warburg, I am translating the Main Page to Basque. Still the translation interface misses two or three segments from the second box, so I cannot translate them. Also dates in the News box. Could you fix that? Best regards --Iñaki LL (talk) 23:18, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

LFN Wikipedia[edit]

Hi! Thank you for all your help regarding LFN Wikipedia. Could you please tell me when we can start editing in the new site ( --Katxis (talk) 17:53, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi. I finished importing now, so you can start. Please inform me if you notice that I missed importing any page or if there are mistakes. --MF-W {a, b} 18:28, 19 April 2018 (UTC)


Hi! I would like to ask you how can we change the templates from Lingua Franca Nova Babel. --Chabi (talk) 16:25, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

LFN Wikipedia[edit]

Hi! Could you please give me administrator rights in the LFN Wikipedia for a month or so because nobody has those rights and we need to delete pages and make changes that only administrators can do. Thank you in advance --Chabi (talk) 07:23, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi, please make such requests on m:SRP for transparency's sake. --MF-W {a, b} 08:07, 9 May 2018 (UTC)


Hey :) Please add [class^="page-Wt_ary_"], to line 139 in Common.css. The direction should be RTL, a project user reported. Thank you --زكريا (talk) 00:45, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Problem is that whoever put ary into translatewiki set it up as ary-Latn, and LTR. I'll leave it to you and maybe @Amire80 as to how you want to handle. StevenJ81 (talk) 03:46, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi زكريا,
The best way to do this would be to go over the current translations at translatewiki and update them. A lot of the current translations are written in the Latin alphabet, and some are written in Arabic. If the community wants the Arabic alphabet, that should be done first. Once you're over the threshold, a MessagesAry.php file will be created, and it will include the definition of the language as RTL. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 16:22, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Import Beta to zh wikiversity[edit]

Hello I am a beta custodianship. I want to assist with the import work. May I grant my custodianship and import permissions? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wasami007 (discussioncontribs) 23:41, 7 August 2018 (UTC).

I see this is already being dealt with. --MF-W {a, b} 10:40, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Import Santali[edit]

[27]. --OWTB (talk) 10:54, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! --MF-W {a, b} 22:34, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Yue.WT admin[edit]

Guten Tag, mein Herr.

After all these years, The Cantonese Wiktionary is finally out of the Incubator. Could you tell me how I can apply to be the admin? Danke schön. 【粵語文學大使殘陽孤侠粵維辭典起錨! 23:36, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi! Please wait for the import to be finished first. Afterwards, you can start a Request for Adminship on the new wiki and request the rights to be assigned on m:SRP. I can also give you admin rights for a short time, as you were a test-admin, so that you can start to manage the stuff. --MF-W {a, b} 11:45, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Will the system automatically import the contents from the Incubator to the Yue.WT? Or does someone need to do this? Also, how long should I wait? 【粵語文學大使殘陽孤侠粵維辭典起錨! 22:29, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
I will start doing it today. If all goes well, I'll be finished today as well, if not: tomorrow (UTC time). --MF-W {a, b} 10:21, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Guten Tag. I just went to TranslateWiki and tried to modify the link, but my modification triggered the automatic filter and the error message was "Established main page translations cannot be changed directly as it would disrupt wikis using the old translation". What should I do next? 【粵語文學大使殘陽孤侠粵維辭典起錨! 01:07, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

You need to edit it on [28], not TWN. --MF-W {a, b} 01:11, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
Done. Thanks again. 【粵語文學大使殘陽孤侠粵維辭典起錨! 01:28, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Problems related to the import of Wt/yue[edit]

Some pages are wrongly imported to another namespace. Would you please help suspend the deletion of the Wt/yue pages on this wiki in order to facilitate a thorough check? Thank you.--Hello903hello (talk請幫手寫粵維新聞 12:47, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Yes, we won't delete the pages anyway for some months. No hurry. Do you need any help from me? --MF-W {a, b} 16:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
We'll make sure it's the last of these new three to be deleted, and I won't do that at all until all three of the following happen: (1) at least one month has passed, (2) a newer project has been created, and (3) I hear from you two that it's safe to delete. StevenJ81 (talk) 03:00, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
Thank you.--Hello903hello (talk請幫手寫粵維新聞 11:08, 21 November 2018 (UTC)


Sir would please fix this Module [Module:Wp/khw/Arguments/Documentation] I am searching for source but unable to find, please fix this or let me know some technical person who is expert in module creation, regards --RAChitrali 04:22, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello, I have no knowledge of modules. --MF-W {a, b} 18:30, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
@MF-Warburg: Thanks sir, I am contacting some other Wikipedian to solve the Module error, regards --RAChitrali 07:03, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Administrator rights grant[edit]

[Can I grant me the rights to the administrator of the test Wikipedia Minbei? (User:Pindtlzm 2019-2-12 04:23:11, UTC)

You can make a request for them on I:A. --MF-W {a, b} 11:14, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Wikidata not supporting Incubator projects[edit]

@MF-Warburg: sir please guide us whether Wikidata supports incubator projects too or not? thanks--RAChitrali 04:29, 20 February 2019 (UTC)


Hi, could you kindly respond to this question?. Thank you! Mimihitam (talk) 05:26, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

A new mail[edit]

I have recently sent a new email. If you see that, please revert this edit (as you wish). Adithyak1997 (talk) 15:02, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

WP Kotava project (avk)[edit]

The Kotava project should be validated. You have seen the vitality and quality and consistency for over one year. Today it has 4918 articles, making it largely the most dynamic of all WP projects developed in the Incubator.
The open debate on September 26 showed no opposition from any LangCom member. Why wait more? Thank you. Axel xadolik (talk) 16:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Protect my talk page[edit]

I'd appreciate if you protect my talk page. I don't care what kind of protection. Anything is fine but make it long term or indefinite. I don't want to be anymore trolled by GRPs. Also pinging User:StevenJ81. Masumrezarock100 (talk) 16:32, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Incubator:Administrators' noticeboard[edit]

Hi. You might want to look at Incubator:Administrators' noticeboard where there is an ongoing activity from a LTA. -- Tegel (talk) 18:59, 4 February 2020 (UTC)


[29]. Sk4mp (talk) 23:40, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, already blocked. --MF-W {a, b} 23:41, 10 February 2020 (UTC)