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Связь

Здравствуйте, где можно с вами связаться? Кумнац (talk) 17:54, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Вы можете написать мне сюда. Caro de Segeda (talk) 18:08, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Так даже лучше, я хотел попросить вас улучшить шаблан "Страны", там есть то что не переведено. Кумнац (talk) 18:10, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Что не переведено? Должен сказать, что я не говорю на кумыкском языке. Caro de Segeda (talk) 18:13, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Шаблон «Страна» вместо кумыкского «Башчы» используется русское «президент», я хочу, чтоб вы помогли мне это исправить. С переводом буду помогать я, боюсь, что если влезу в шаблоны, испорчу что-нибудь Кумнац (talk) 18:15, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Я создал шаблон на основе тех, что использовались в статье о Финляндии. Вы можете посмотреть его здесь. Caro de Segeda (talk) 18:21, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Президент на кумыкском — Башчы, исправьте, пожалуйста Кумнац (talk) 18:27, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Я исправил это, но вам нужно будет заполнить шаблон. Caro de Segeda (talk) 18:30, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Без проблем Кумнац (talk) 18:31, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Не знаю, в курсе ли вы, но для того, чтобы статья в Википедии была одобрена, необходимо перевести «Most important messages (самые важные сообщения)», которые здесь появляются. Большинство из них (450 из 582 сообщений) уже переведены. Caro de Segeda (talk) 18:33, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Знаю, к этому я пока не готов, у меня нет опыта. Может, за это возьмутся более опытные энциклопедисты Кумнац (talk) 18:36, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Я создал эту категорию. Caro de Segeda (talk) 18:42, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Благодарю за вклад Кумнац (talk) 18:45, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

В статье о Европе используется вариант «Аврупа», а здесь — «Европаны гюнбатыш». Какой из них правильный? Caro de Segeda (talk) 18:24, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Аврупа правильный вариант, это мой недочёт. Кумнац (talk) 18:25, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Добрый день, не могли бы вы создать шаблон для языков? Кумнац (talk) 12:57, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Не могли бы вы перевести это?

Язык

Название

Цвет

Народное название

Штаты

Регион

Носители языка

Ранг

Семья

Официальный статус

Страна

Агентство

Коды

Карта

Текст Caro de Segeda (talk) 13:50, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Тил - язык - language

Аты - название -name

Тюс - цвет - colour

халкъ аты - native name

Штатлар - Штаты - states

Якъ - регион - region

Тилни юрютегенлер - знающие язык - Speakers

Даража - ранг - rank

Агьлю - семья family

Ресми даража - официальноый статус - official status

Пачалыкъ - страна - country

Агентство - агентство - agency

Кодлар - коды - codes

Ер - карта - map

Языв - текст - text Кумнац (talk) 14:07, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Также вот эти:

Говорят на

Официальном языке

Регулируется

См. также: Язык

Языковые коды Caro de Segeda (talk) 14:14, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Сёйлей расми тилмен,

Тюзюле,

Къара дагъыда: Тил,

Тил кодлар. Кумнац (talk) 14:31, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Извините, я не понимаю, какой из них к чему относится:

Говорит на -

Официальном языке -

Регулируется - Caro de Segeda (talk) 14:39, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Всё по той же очерёдности, что вы мне дали для перевода Кумнац (talk) 15:12, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

We are writing the Kumyk Wikipedia so hard, but we don't even know if anything will work out. How soon do you think the Kumyk wiki will be released from the incubator? Кумнац (talk) 21:10, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

The last time I checked (which was a few years ago), you needed at least three people working on an almost daily basis for a few months and having the most important messages translated. I would suggest you, if I may, to try to find somebody else that also speaks the language and is willing to create articles. Is there an academy that regulates the language? Any institutions teaching it (maybe the Dagestan State Pedagogical University?) Any person you know that speaks the language that is interested in creating an encyclopedia? Caro de Segeda (talk) 22:45, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

Maybe you can try to contact this woman, this one or this other one (her email is on this website) and try to convince them to join the project. I also found Rossyaykin P. O. (petrrossyaykin@gmail.com) and Анастасия Ильинична Груздева (gruzdevaai@my.msu.ru) Caro de Segeda (talk) 23:00, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

Request

Hello please can you help to add Vital articles for translation to this incubator wiki.

https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/mrt Hafsatulkhair (talk) 22:25, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

Who wrote

Hi,

Who actually wrote the pages Wp/kum/Рональд Кларк, Wp/kum/Венди Эшби, and Wp/kum/Висенте Косталаго? Yourself or someone else? Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 10:31, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

All articles at the Kumyk Wikipedia that I create have been translated by User:Кумнац. I don't speak the language at all. Caro de Segeda (talk) 11:07, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

Is there a reason you uploaded them under your username? It's not great for statistics and for licensing. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 11:10, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

I don't understand what you mean. I am helping @User:Кумнац developing the Kumyk Wikipedia. I am mainly creating templates and adding articles that he translates whereas he adds other articles. I don't see any issue with that. How can it affect statistics and licensing? Caro de Segeda (talk) 11:13, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

The licensing is affected because the contribution is not credited to the actual author.

The statistics are affected because it looks like two people are writing articles, even though there is actually one. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 11:25, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

I am sorry, but the Wikipedia in Jamaican was done in the same way. There were two native speakers creating articles and me doing all the templates and adding articles translated by them. The wiki was approved. I have done the same with other Wikipedias that were at the Incubator, mainly helping with templates, images and categories; and adding a few articles translated by native speakers. If you read our conversation, you could see that I told @User:Кумнац that he needs to find other speakers (and finish translating the most important messages). As I see it, Wikipedia is a collaborative project, and each person does what s/he can. Most people that want to have a Wikipedia in their language don't know anything about wiki code, but they still want to have an encyclopedia in their language. IMHO, the most important thing is text, and templates, categories and images come later on. Being a collaborative project, I don't see any issues as the person translating doesn't have any problem in me creating those articles (less work for them) and, regarding the statistics, I already mentioned that he needs more people working there (I am not even counting myself here, never did it). Caro de Segeda (talk) 11:29, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

Again, the problem is that one person is writing the text and another person is credited for publishing the edits, and legally, it's a bit of a problem.

There's almost no wikitext code in the three articles that I mentioned. It would be much better to let the users do it themselves and learn along the way. I understand the desire to help newcomers, but it's not sustainable in the long run—they have to learn to do things themselves.

As for templates, they are actually not that important either. I mean, they are very important in the long run, but in the first stage in the Incubator, they complicate things and they don't have a lot of influence on the Language committee's decision about approving. I recommend working towards making templates global and explaining to people who make decisions about MediaWiki development how much time you waste in replicating templates for every new language. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 12:17, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

So it is much better for the actual speakers to create the articles, and I only add the references, images and categories, because in that way, they both appear as the creators and we wouldn't be causing any issues regarding licensing and statistics, is that correct? Caro de Segeda (talk) 12:20, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

It's only a little better.

It's much better if you teach them to do those things.

Developing templates is really hard, even if you are mostly copying their code from other languages, but it's not very necessary at this stage anyway.

Adding references, images, and categories is mostly easy, and people need to learn to do it themselves. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 12:30, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

Do we have templates for cities? Кумнац (talk) 13:26, 6 February 2026 (UTC)

I don't think so. Caro de Segeda (talk) 21:14, 7 February 2026 (UTC)

Could you please translate this?

• City
• Name
• Country
• Area
• Population
• Density
• Year

Caro de Segeda (talk) 13:16, 8 February 2026 (UTC)

Artículos sobre criptomonedas

Hola señor. ¿Te animarías a empezar algunos artículos sobre criptomonedas en lenguas ibéricas un poco más exóticas, como el fala? También creo que estaría genial tener un artículo sobre Monero en interslavo, ya que ese idioma probablemente se añadirá pronto a la Wikipedia principal. Quizá podrías solicitar ese artículo si tienes buen contacto con la comunidad interslava.

Si tienes algún tema favorito, por supuesto puedo crear ese artículo en afrikáans.

~2026-92087-1 (talk) 22:56, 10 February 2026 (UTC)

Templates

Hello, how do I create templates? Кумнац (talk) 10:11, 22 February 2026 (UTC)

I usually opy them from small Wikipedias, as they don't use as much code as the ones from the English one. Which template do you want to create? Caro de Segeda (talk) 10:42, 22 February 2026 (UTC)

The bear family and bear breeds Кумнац (talk) 12:12, 23 February 2026 (UTC)

Can you send me a link to the templates on the English Wikipedia please? Caro de Segeda (talk) 13:09, 23 February 2026 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I do not understand the English Wikipedia, but here is the link to the article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear Кумнац (talk) 16:12, 23 February 2026 (UTC)

The link doesn't open, I need the bears template, as in the English Wikipedia, if it makes it difficult for you, you can leave Кумнац (talk) 16:14, 23 February 2026 (UTC)

Do you mean the template for taxonomy? Caro de Segeda (talk) 16:17, 23 February 2026 (UTC)

yes Кумнац (talk) 16:18, 23 February 2026 (UTC)

It is too complex. I can create something like this. Caro de Segeda (talk) 16:20, 23 February 2026 (UTC)

I would be grateful. Кумнац (talk) 16:22, 23 February 2026 (UTC)

Template:Wp/kum/Таксономия Caro de Segeda (talk) 17:17, 23 February 2026 (UTC)

thank you Кумнац (talk) 17:18, 23 February 2026 (UTC)