Incubator:Requests for deletion
This page is for nominating test wikis for deletion, or for nominating pages related to the maintenance of the Incubator for deletion. Requests for undeletion can also be made here. To request the deletion of individual pages in a specific test wiki, please use the relevant talk pages where the editors of the test wiki are most active (such as the talk page of the test wiki's Main Page). Pages that should be speedily deleted should be tagged with {{delete}} with a proper reason.
It is typically not necessary to request that pages in a test wiki be deleted after the project has been given its own subdomain (e.g., aa.wikipedia.org), since such deletions are part of the normal workflow when creating new wikis. Eventually all pages in the test wiki will be deleted, leaving behind only the info page.
For the deletion policy, see Incubator:Deletion policy.
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As suggested by the rejected request, and even agreed by a "keeper" of #Wp/grc above, there's blatantly no reason for having a Wiktionary in Historical language such as in Ancient Greek. For writting definitions of Ancient Greek words, the existing Wiktionaries e.g. Greek Wiktionary are already hard on doing so. I would hence prefer to merge these contents into el.wiktionary. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 08:25, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Just to be clear, I did not say that "there's blatantly no reason for having a Wiktionary in an historical language such as Ancient Greek". I don't agree on that point! What I've actually said is that I don't see reasons to preserve this draft of a Wiktionary, because the lemmas are too few and, above all, almost exclusively (80%?) written in Modern Greek. Probably, it is a draft by someone who wanted to translate them in Classical Greek but never had the time to do so. Since this Wiktionary is also inactive, and since there is no probability at all that this person will ever continue what he barely started, I don't find particular reasons to keep this very rough draft of a project alive. If someone wanted to restart an Ancient Greek Wiktionary, he could start it anew: having this draft or not would make very little difference!
- On the other hand, having a real Ancient Greek Wiktionary would be useful: who could say that monolingual dictionaries are of no use for students of foreign languages? Nobody could say that! Therefore, a functional Ancient Greek Wiktionary would be very useful for the ca. 1 million students of Ancient Greek around the globe. Unfortunately, no scholar is currently willing to write such a monolingual dictionary for free. Anaxicrates (talk) 13:16, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
Oppose. It's a good historical record. Others may be interested in it later.Andrijko Z. (talk) 01:06, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Andrijko Z. A good historical record? At least one former active user Leonardo José Raimundo is nowadays global banned. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:17, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- For me it's not an argument. The project may be cleaned if necessary, but not deleted. Andrijko Z. (talk) 01:57, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, @Andrijko Z.: Are you really sure that you can speak such a historical language instead of a living language? From your record of contributions, I really really and really can't see anything as "good", all of your historical records are only promoting your bad properties instead of "good"s. --~2026-19854-51 (talk) 06:23, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Please stick back to constructive arguments. @MF-Warburg please pay attention to the tone of this user. Thank you! Andrijko Z. (talk) 23:10, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Andrijko Z. You don't really need to ping MF-W or other administrators, since the user who made bad tone is just you, not me. ~2026-20750-41 (talk) 14:10, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
- Please stick back to constructive arguments. @MF-Warburg please pay attention to the tone of this user. Thank you! Andrijko Z. (talk) 23:10, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
See Incubator:Administrators'_noticeboard#Wp/atv_existence. Таёжный лес (talk) 21:19, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
Multiple projects
[edit source]These projects only have one page, usually the main page, and have never been active since creation. They should be deleted. Breck0530 (talk) 02:25, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
Again, These projects only have one page, usually the main page, and have never been active since creation. They should be deleted. Breck0530 (talk) 02:30, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
Again, These projects only have one page, usually the main page, and have never been active since creation. They should be deleted. Breck0530 (talk) 02:35, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
Again, These projects only have one page, usually the main page, and have never been active since creation. They should be deleted. Breck0530 (talk) 02:40, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
Again, These projects only have one page, usually the main page, and have never been active since creation. They should be deleted. Breck0530 (talk) 02:46, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- For what?... Таёжный лес (talk) 18:38, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- For being inactive, not having any content (or very few) and just taking up space. Breck0530 (talk) 23:16, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- "Placeholder" projects have always existed on Incubator and are not a problem by themselves. Info pages with "tocreate" status (like Wp/com) also should not be deleted. If a Main Page properly written in the languages invites people to contribute, there is no problem. If there are additional problems, like the sole Main Page is not actually written in the language itself, or the language is dead/invalid, please elaborate. For example, I did just deleted Wb/tum because its Main Page was very broken with a lot of missing templates. --MF-W {a, b} 00:11, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
- There is really no problem aside from that it has no content, so if you say that they are just placeholder than they should be fine. Thanks for telling me. Breck0530 (talk) 00:35, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
- But also, these projects have never been active since creation. Breck0530 (talk) 00:36, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
- "Placeholder" projects have always existed on Incubator and are not a problem by themselves. Info pages with "tocreate" status (like Wp/com) also should not be deleted. If a Main Page properly written in the languages invites people to contribute, there is no problem. If there are additional problems, like the sole Main Page is not actually written in the language itself, or the language is dead/invalid, please elaborate. For example, I did just deleted Wb/tum because its Main Page was very broken with a lot of missing templates. --MF-W {a, b} 00:11, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
- For being inactive, not having any content (or very few) and just taking up space. Breck0530 (talk) 23:16, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- Delete Placeholder-only "projects" are nonsense of nonsense, gibberish of gibberish, trolls of trolls, and especially, damn of damn. --~2026-19854-51 (talk) 06:24, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Also Wb/ary Wy/acm Wt/acm Almajidy【Talk】 08:45, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
Pains me to say this but this project is unlikely to ever go anywhere. It has had no activity since 2020 besides spam. Most Deaf folks in the US, for cultural reasons, use English, and the SignWriting community is not very large. ~2026-10410-48 (talk) 22:57, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
- And is it just me or are there not even really characters to represent sign language? They don't show up for me at least. ~2026-12914-86 (talk) 15:42, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
- There is a gadget you need to activate. --MF-W {a, b} 15:31, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Yair rand: What's the technical status of this project? I thought it was just waiting for MediaWiki to properly support vertical text or for VisualEditor to have better support for SignWriting? Have you had any contact with ValSutton lately about this project? Minh Nguyễn 💬 21:13, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- This project has faltered in the past due to a lack of technical investment, but actually I think its potential has gone way up since 2020. If AI works for speech recognition in audio, it's likely to work decently for sign recognition in video as well; this would be an easy way to bypass SignWriting's traditional problem of having to learn a whole new writing system. Pharos (talk) 19:54, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
Wikinews test projects
[edit source]As of March 30, 2026, Wikinews has been shut down. Therefore, none of the Wikinews test projects on the Incubator will ever go anywhere. They should therefore either be deleted or the content should be archived elsewhere. DraconicDark (talk) 17:17, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Please note that existing Wikinews tests are now [technically] in read only mode (or restricted to administrators), and creating new tests is also restricted. 🪶-TΛNBIRUZZΛMΛN (💬) 20:13, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- I'd suggest to announce this question via top of these test projects' portal pages e.g. Wn/cdo via that tag. ~2026-20743-13 (talk) 07:51, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
- Done, there’ll now be a notice on every Wikinews tests info page. 🪶-TΛNBIRUZZΛMΛN (💬) 09:37, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
I am told that the Board considers making a decision about this and is in consultation about possible place to put this content, so let's wait for that. --MF-W {a, b} 13:20, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- And, for the record, what to do with RFL requests for Wikinewses (which many of them are marked eligible)? ~2026-22152-29 (talk) 01:22, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
- If no users oppose, then I'd love to merge the above "Wn/kk, Wn/sah/ Wn/tt" section and another section below as L3 sections under this thread since we are discussing all Wikinews test projects here. ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 01:46, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
- Manually pinging @Nvdtn19 for Wn/vi due to talk page semi-protected. --~2026-23926-28 (talk) 00:32, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
- I have no further comments on Wn/vi. This project just needs to archive and read-only like other cases. Nvdtn19 (talk) 05:39, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
As one of the main contributors and maintainers of Wn/cdo, I was caught completely off guard and deeply shocked by this news. Reading the statement below from the Wn/ms community truly resonated with me.
Over the years, volunteer reporters for Wn/cdo have actively gathered and edited news, gone on field assignments, and connected with locals to take photos and write articles—covering everything from major international events to grassroots local news in Hokchew, Matsu and Malaysia Hokchew community. Wikireporters even volunteered for field assignments in other cities, such as Shanghai, to cover local exhibitions. We were dedicated to ensuring that the Wikinews in our mother tongue was not merely a translation of dominant, high-resource languages, but instead possessed its own unique character. Wn/cdo is a project that has grown alongside the personal capabilities of its editors and maintainers.
It is profoundly regrettable to hear this news today. The editors of Wn/cdo are currently discussing where to go from here. Davidzdh (talk) 09:28, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
- Hello Davidzdh,
- I'm Victoria, the WMF Board of Trustees member responsible for the Wikinews -related discussions. I'm truly sorry that this news has come so unexpectedly. The wider Wikimedia Movement was discussing the possible future of the Wikinews projects for a while, and the consensus was that the existing projects did not leave up to the expectations while using the limited resources. But I understand that the bulk of discussions was happening in other places (mostly on Meta) and many people were not aware of them.
- It’s clear from your message how much care, effort, and personal commitment has gone into building and sustaining Wn/cdo over the years. The work of your community is deeply meaningful. It’s especially difficult when something that has grown so organically and with such dedication faces an uncertain future. I can assure you that all you've done wouldn't be lost as it will be accessible in the read mode and can be copied.
- I regret that this situation has come as a shock, and that it has affected contributors who have invested so much into the project.I understand that you and your fellow editors are now considering next steps. I sincerely hope that, whatever direction you choose, the strength and cohesion of your community will carry forward. Victoria (talk) 09:53, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- Hi Davidzdh, what is the most recent work on wn:cdo? Just making sure nothing is lost. Sj (talk) 19:50, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- Interesting, all the newsletters shown on their mainpage were created 8 years ago, so where are their recent news? ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 06:26, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- Hi @Sj, all works from Wn/cdo are here, in addition, their category pages, templates, and modules cannot be seen on the above summary page; they can be found at:
- I have provided a detailed summary of the page distribution and the community’s migration plan below #Wn/cdo. Thank you for your attention! Davidzdh (talk) 05:41, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
- To provide some additional context regarding the main page, which might confuse those unfamiliar with the project:
- Mindong has long had two mainstream writing systems: one using Chinese characters and the other using Latin alphabets. For nearly thirty years in the online Mindong community, the debate over which script to use has been a controversial topic that has, to some extent, torn the community apart. Under the Mindong Wikipedia's village pump, Help namespace, and Wikipedia namespace, you will find extensive records of fierce arguments between both sides, as well as essays written by their respective supporters defending their stances. This controversy is not limited to Wikimedia projects; you can find even more of it in other Min language web forums and online chat rooms.
- Therefore, in order to resolve this dispute and unite the community—at least within Wikimedia projects—we want the project's official pages to feature both Chinese characters and Romanization side-by-side (合璧, hăk-bék), with one script on the left half and the other on the right. Moreover, the content on both sides is essentially identical; if read aloud, they produce exactly the same sound, only the written text differs. This imposes high demands on the content—they cannot be written independently of one another, but must be coordinated to ensure both sides say the exact same thing.
- Additionally, our view of the main page is that it serves as a showcase of the project volunteers' reporting and editing standards. Because of this, it is not simply the latest news that gets posted on the main page. Instead, we feature reports where volunteers actually did fieldwork, visited the sites, and took news photos to write lengthy, detailed articles. Furthermore, all articles featured on the main page are audio news reports, meaning an audio file read aloud by a human voice without any mispronunciations or verbal errors is attached alongside the transcript. Some even go a step further and are presented as full video news report programs that we have produced.
- Naturally, requiring both high-quality reporting and strict consistency between the Chinese character and Latin alphabet versions makes maintaining updates on the main page objectively difficult. Our intent for the main page is to give people an understanding of the editorial style and quality standards of this incubator project as much as possible, so we do not aggressively push for rapid updates there. However, this does not mean there are no newer news articles within the project. Davidzdh (talk) 06:29, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
- Hello Victoria,
- Thank you for your clarification. I appreciate the assurance that, the content "wouldn't be lost." I believe this is extremely important because it directly affects the volunteers' trust in Wikimedia. Many newsletters from Mindong Wikinews have been cited and linked on social media via their URLs. Regardless of the final outcome, keeping these URLs accessible means that the past efforts of the Mindong language community will have a chance to be remembered. Davidzdh (talk) 06:41, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
- Hi Davidzdh, what is the most recent work on wn:cdo? Just making sure nothing is lost. Sj (talk) 19:50, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- Wn/tr/Ekrem İmamoğlu 13. cumhurbaşkanı seçildi is a spam page ~2026-25348-62 (talk) 17:10, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
- +1, that should really fit the speedy deletion criteria. ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 11:59, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
These projects are already on Russian Wikinews 151.135.197.56 13:47, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Tend to support deletion of Wn/kk per the rejected RFL, which as only having little substubs before RFL rejection, there are merely no benefit for having a separate kk.wikinews. Eventually, it currently has no pages. (Someone would say that there's second open RFL, but its creator Bauka0625 didn't create anything except their own user page here)
- The later two were discussed in 2019 which result no consensus, of which Tatar Wikinews has its RFL verified as eligible, I'm not sure whether there's really benefit for second trial of RFD em. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Support I support the deletion of the projects as per the request. Besides that, these projects have never been active in the incubator since their creation.--ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 08:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ The last Tatar one may be a sensitive question as, again, its RFL is verified as eligible, I contacted a user who voted keep in that 2019 DR, that has several contributions to Wq/tt. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:24, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- "Delete" (in scare quotes because no use of the MediaWiki deletion functionality is involved here - the page will really be replaced with a pointer) wn/kk as empty. Delete wn/sah, which only contains a main page and no other content. Inclined to delete wn/tt, which only contains a Main Page and one news article from 2020, as well, but not as strongly convinced. In any case these can be recreated if there's a movement to develop the project outside of Russian Wikinews.
- Once these are deleted, we need to decide what to do with the domain names https://kk.wikinews.org, https://sah.wikinews.org, https://tt.wikinews.org.
- Inclined to redirect https://tt.wikinews.org -> https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B3%D1%8B_%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82, https://sah.wikinews.org -> https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D2%AF%D1%80%D2%AF%D0%BD_%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%80%D1%8D%D0%B9, but redirect https://kk.wikinews.org to https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8:%D0%9C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%8F%D0%B7%D1%8B%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C (the project page explaining Russian Wikinews' multilingual initiative) since there isn't even a Kazakh Main Page. Although even the first two are very dead. And for all three domains redirect https://tt.wikinews.org/wiki/foo -> https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/Foo. Pppery (talk) 20:03, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Pppery I think for 3rd one, once we indeed gain consensus to delete, we might need to discuss with langcom members on whether its RFL's eligible status should be revoked. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:42, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- The project should remain in-theory eligible. I'm effectively saying to do a soft delete - delete the nearly-empty test currently there without prejudice against a new movement for starting a test if one forms. Pppery (talk) 03:43, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- @OWTB: As you're most likely supporting to keep such "tocreate portal pages", do you have time on Pppery's suggestions above? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:57, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Anyway, it looks like the member who marked Tatar Wikinews request eligible doesn't agree to re-consider it should be revoked or not. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 05:01, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- If they are already present on Wn/ru, then at least, they should link to their respective pages on ru.wikinews. --OWTB (talk) 06:17, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Looks like the nominator already did so. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 07:53, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- If they are already present on Wn/ru, then at least, they should link to their respective pages on ru.wikinews. --OWTB (talk) 06:17, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- The project should remain in-theory eligible. I'm effectively saying to do a soft delete - delete the nearly-empty test currently there without prejudice against a new movement for starting a test if one forms. Pppery (talk) 03:43, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Per board decision, they are already failed, and should go to 3rd platform for further contributing. --~2026-20743-13 (talk) 07:46, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
Oppose Soft-closure and archive. ~ Sheminghui.WU (talk) 00:32, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Sheminghui.WU The entire projects were created on other wikis, why archive here? Make discussion branches? That's really hassle for citing. ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 11:54, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
- Why not keep with soft redirections? But, yes, I'm not really opposite it, however should let the local community speak up maybe other russian contributors as well. Sheminghui.WU (talk) 12:50, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Sheminghui.WU The entire projects were created on other wikis, why archive here? Make discussion branches? That's really hassle for citing. ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 11:54, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
Oppose all of the above. You should first ask one of the ru-Wikinews users (as me) to move these 4 pages. Таёжный лес (talk) 05:49, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
I have moved all useful Tatar and Kazakh content along with Yakut mainpage, and I'm asking the Incubator administrators to help me complete the migration:
- Delete all content of Wn/tt and Wn/kk
- Move all of the templates with redirects (~30) in Wn/sah with prefixes, under their current names to Russian Wikinews. I can't do it myself, because importing to Wikinews from Incubator is not allowed, local sysops cannot import pages from Incubator. In the edit description, would be good to specify the contributors who created the template and the CC-BY-SA license (because Russian Wikinews use CC-BY-2.5).
- Place stubs from User:Таёжный лес/news on Wn/evn (another one language version hosted in ruWN), Wn/kk, Wn/tt, Wn/sah respectively.
Таёжный лес (talk) 11:30, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Таёжный лес ruwikinews, as well as other Wikinews with official subdomains, are being discussed on future migration targets, so I don't know why 3rd is still needed. ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 02:30, 20 April 2026 (UTC)
- Right, along with other Wikinews, including projects in Incubator. Таёжный лес (talk) 03:44, 20 April 2026 (UTC)
Empty Wikinews test projects
[edit source]These Wikinews test projects contain no pages or only main pages: Wn/ady, Wn/ain, Wn/arz, Wn/bew, Wn/bgn, Wn/brh, Wn/ccp, Wn/ceb, Wn/cnh, Wn/ctg, Wn/cy, Wn/ddo, Wn/dlg, Wn/dtp, Wn/dv, Wn/dz, Wn/ee, Wn/ff, Wn/fur, Wn/ga, Wn/gag, Wn/gd, Wn/gl, Wn/gu, Wn/hif, Wn/hnd, Wn/ie, Wn/jax, Wn/jbo, Wn/jje, Wn/kbd, Wn/kip, Wn/kjh, Wn/kk, Wn/kl, Wn/km, Wn/kn, Wn/ks, Wn/ku, Wn/ky, Wn/lg, Wn/lo, Wn/min, Wn/mn, Wn/mnw, Wn/mr, Wn/mrh, Wn/my, Wn/nrm, Wn/nv, Wn/oc, Wn/om, Wn/os, Wn/pcm, Wn/phr, Wn/rw, Wn/sah, Wn/sco, Wn/so, Wn/tly, Wn/trv, Wn/ts, Wn/tt, Wn/tum, Wn/tw, Wn/vec, Wn/wal, Wn/yi, Wn/zu ~2026-21280-06 (talk) 09:25, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- False about Wn/tt. I don't see any problem with a test project having at least one page written in a language, even if it's just a mainpage. Таёжный лес (talk) 04:21, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Таёжный лес This is already being discussed on the section above. ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 23:06, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
- Probably Wn/als, Wn/ang, Wn/ba and Wn/bar can also be ditto opinions. ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 23:10, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
- als, ba, and bar document where the corresponding projects are, and ang puts up a deletion notice. I don't see why we should delete them. 魔琴 (talk) 21:49, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
- @魔琴 Where are benefits to keep such semi-redirect to closed projects? Those "projects" are having no pages useful, deletion of them should potentially be feel free and without prejudice, as like how we are plugging power sockets. ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 15:02, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- Redirects are cheap. 魔琴 (talk) 15:05, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- @魔琴 That will only result unnecessary discussion branches which can really stuck citation purposes, that said, no need to leave such redirects to jerk pages/ ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 11:55, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
- Redirects are cheap. 魔琴 (talk) 15:05, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- @魔琴 Where are benefits to keep such semi-redirect to closed projects? Those "projects" are having no pages useful, deletion of them should potentially be feel free and without prejudice, as like how we are plugging power sockets. ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 15:02, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- Just soft close those pages, its not hard. It's nothing Sheminghui.WU (talk) 12:52, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
- als, ba, and bar document where the corresponding projects are, and ang puts up a deletion notice. I don't see why we should delete them. 魔琴 (talk) 21:49, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
Oppose all requests above. Cause this doesn’t even matter if the consensus reach to keep or delete, as the board already decided to close the project. If the board ask us delete all tests, we'll delete them.🪶-TΛNBIRUZZΛMΛN (💬) 01:57, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
- bew and ks are already deleted. ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 22:58, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- Suggest to delete those with entirely no subpages, e.g. Wn/my, these can be feel free to go without prejudice. ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 04:00, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
Oppose Wn/nrm because of special code.
Oppose Wn/kk, Wn/sah, and Wn/tt because we may need to mention Russosphere Multilingual Wikinews project on their portals. --魔琴 (talk) 21:52, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
- @魔琴 Russian Wikinews is currently discussing the target of migration, see details here. ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 17:09, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
Oppose First, we clearly need redirects etc.; e.g. if the Incubator cannot have interested contributors taking a look, then there's no way forward for the whole site, might consider a soft closure as well(no lol). Second, this actually brings no real benefit. Third, a soft closure decision points to soft closure, also the history of Wikimedia movement sites is not a have or not have. Wikinews(pages) have already been soft-closed now, and anyway that is a done deal. ~ Sheminghui.WU (talk) 14:23, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
I need clarification regarding the closure of Malay Wikinews. Will administrators on Wikimedia Incubator mass-delete all the pages associated with Malay Wikinews, given that there are currently a total of 1162 pages (including categories, templates, talk pages, and redirects) based on the statistics on this page? Or will the community be given the option to move/archive these pages elsewhere (such as Miraheze, or maybe one of the Malay Wikimedia projects with new namespace, or perhaps separate toolforge project)? Hakimi97 (talk) 05:08, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
- I will tag active Malay Wikinews contributors such as @Stress 043, @26 Ramadan, @EmpAhmadK, @Izington, @Rulwarih, @Jeluang Terluang, @SNN95, @Zazamental, @Wiki Farazi, @Adikhebat, @Tofeiku, @Song GK, @Ceball1923, @Niduzzi regarding this. They have the right to know where their contributions would go, and worst comes to worst, send their final goodbye to their content. Hakimi97 (talk) 05:13, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
- Actually, with the exception of blocked users e.g. Zazamental (and some who are inactive for at least 2 years), I already posted noticement on their talk pages this morning. ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 05:20, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
- As someone who has been very hopeful and working a lot on the release of Malay Wikinews since 2020, it is definitely upsetting to see the years of work wasted, especially with the recent creation of the news header template and all the work that the Malaysian community put for more original reports on the ground that also helped to contribute to other projects such as Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. I would suggest that even if Wikinews is no longer supported, the local communities on incubator should have the autonomy to continue running their own Wikinews (and any other projects if they also get shut down) afterwards on Incubator as it barely costs anything for the Foundation to support.
- The initiatives taken by the Malaysian community such as to get the media pass to be the first to report on the iPhone 17 launch and have pictures uploaded to commons cannot be ignored. Even other news occassionally refers to the Malay Wikinews for their report, such as when the new Kamus Dewan Perdana website was announced, where the Malay tech news directly cited Wikinews' original report of the announcement from Dewan Bahasa.
- If local communities are able to bring Wikinews to greater heights, nobody should be able to stop them. At least let us operate our projects on the Incubator even if it will never make it to its full stage, it's better than shutting it down entirely. EmpAhmadK (talk) 06:33, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
- Hello Hakimi97 and EmpAhmadK, I don't believe any pages will be deleted, at most made read-only. Existing URLs should continue to work. There are also community plans to migrate Wikinews to a new host which could include interested active incubator languages. (You may want to comment there.) So no work to date should be wasted. Sj (talk) 19:50, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- I don't think that it is possible for Malay Wikinews to be moved together with those established language editions of Wikinews, given that the Malay Wikinews has not even graduated from the Incubator before the closure of the Wikinews being announced. Hakimi97 (talk) 20:15, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Sj Maybe Wn/tr has really benefits for losing instead of archiving due to its totally spam subpages. ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 12:01, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
- First, I believe that Malay Wikinews will absolutely not be deleted; another key aspect of soft closure is proper preservation. Second, you are welcome to continue following future developments related to Wikinews and participate in related discussions, perhaps join back in again! ~ Sheminghui.WU (talk) 00:30, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
- Hello Hakimi97 and EmpAhmadK, I don't believe any pages will be deleted, at most made read-only. Existing URLs should continue to work. There are also community plans to migrate Wikinews to a new host which could include interested active incubator languages. (You may want to comment there.) So no work to date should be wasted. Sj (talk) 19:50, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- Sorry for being inactive for quite some time. When I first came across Malay Wikinews back in 2024, it had roughly 300 articles. Seeing that number grow to over 600 today is a significant achievement, especially given the very small number of active contributors.
- Realistically, awareness of Wikinews is quite low, and even fewer people know about the Malay edition. For this reason, the Board's decision to close the project is understandable, and I accept the archival of the Malay site. However, I completely empathize with the contributors who might feel frustrated by this decision. They invested a great deal of time and effort into producing original reporting and photography, and their disappointment is completely valid.
- Ultimately, life goes on, and the broader Wikimedia movement will continue to move forward. Free knowledge truly comes with a hefty price. Stress 043 (talk) 15:45, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
- That being said, many communities are still going, and we welcome you to join us moving forward or stopping together. ~ Sheminghui.WU (talk) 23:00, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
Following the recent news regarding the Wikinews closures, the Mindong (cdo) community has discussed our next steps. With the explicit support of our local administrators, we plan to migrate our Wikinews test project to the Mindong Wikipedia (cdo.wikipedia.org) and continue operating it there as a dedicated sub-project.
To ensure that the years of hard work by our contributors are preserved and that proper attribution is maintained, we need to perform a full import. Therefore, I am requesting a complete dump—including full edit histories—for all pages under the Wn/cdo/ prefix.
For context, our community has already prepared the necessary namespace mapping plan for the target wiki:
| Incubator Path | Target path on cdo.wikipedia |
|---|---|
| Wn/cdo/xxx | Report:xxx |
| Talk:Wn/cdo/xxx | Report_talk:xxx |
| Wn/cdo/Help:xxx | Help:xxx |
| Wn/cdo/Wikinews:xxx | WN:xxx |
| Talk:Wn/cdo/Wikinews:xxx | WN_talk:xxx |
| Category:Wn/cdo/xxx | Category:Wn/cdo/xxx |
| Template:Wn/cdo/xxx | Template:Wn/cdo/xxx |
| Module:Wn/cdo/xxx | Module:Wn/cdo/xxx |
| Module_talk:Wn/cdo/xxx | Module_talk:Wn/cdo/xxx |
Could an administrator or someone with the necessary access please assist us in generating this export? --Davidzdh (talk) 05:30, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
- You need to file a request at phabricator for those namespace creation. 🪶-TΛNBIRUZZΛMΛN (💬) 05:46, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you for the information. Do we need the Phabricator request for the namespaces to be approved and implemented first, or can the data dump and import happen in parallel? Davidzdh (talk) 06:44, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
- phab:T424413 has been created. Davidzdh (talk) 07:11, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
- Really support this constructive decision by the local community. Keep it up! ~ Sheminghui.WU (talk) 00:31, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
I would recommend not creating new namespaces (that makes archiving and discovery much harder, especially for a small number of pages) unless necessary. You can more easily map this as follows, with no new namespaces needed. Also it's better for the official page title to be a full "wikinews" rather than an abbreviation "WN" again for searchability and readability. Sj (talk) 12:59, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
| Incubator Path | Target path on cdo.wikipedia |
|---|---|
| Wn/cdo/xxx | Project:Reports/xxx |
| Wn/cdo/Wikinews:xxx | Project:Wikinews/xxx |
- Thank you for your constructive suggestion.
- From my understanding, requesting and creating new namespaces is actually a separate matter from importing the news articles and their edit histories from the Incubator. (I also pointed this out during our internal discussions within the local community, and the local Wikipedia administrator agrees with this as well.)
- For the import process itself, I think using the target paths you suggested works perfectly. As for creating new namespaces, it might take a very long time due to technical or other reasons, or it might not even be implemented at all. However, this will not affect the continued operation of the local community's news project.
- How should we move forward with the export and import process? Davidzdh (talk) 09:11, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
Archive all
[edit source]It should be based on full archival as the standard. Since the closure component of the soft-close has already been applied to the various Incubator sites, its archival component should also be applied here.
and For Incubator versions with communities by the way, they have always been part of the global Wikinews community, and they are also welcome to take part in future contributions and discussions. ~ Sheminghui.WU (talk) 13:47, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Sheminghui.WU I don't think empty ones e.g. Wn/my should also be "archived", since there are eventually no projects under this prefix, such empty "projects" should feel free to be deleted. ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 11:51, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
- The main thing is, deleting a one page doesn't do any good, and since it's already been soft-closed, the process isn't exactly fair. And since there's no negative impact anyway, I guess it's fine to just keep it. But, not really impact much thing Sheminghui.WU (talk) 12:43, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Sheminghui.WU But keeping such "null project"s, on the other hand, can really mislead users to consider starting them even after 4 May, to which those are no longer allowed to active in any circumstances, that will only cause unnecessary unprotect requests which are also unfair for the administrators. Due to really existing negative impact in the near future, I suggest that we can exclude such empty ones from archival by early-bird deletion, that's the correct way with no hurts, not keeping, this way is really hurting future new users. ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 05:14, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- I understand your concerns, but they are unnecessary. Enough explanation is enough. If you think like that, then all soft shutdown sites would have this problem, which is impossible. Sheminghui.WU (talk) 11:04, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Sheminghui.WU But keeping such "null project"s, on the other hand, can really mislead users to consider starting them even after 4 May, to which those are no longer allowed to active in any circumstances, that will only cause unnecessary unprotect requests which are also unfair for the administrators. Due to really existing negative impact in the near future, I suggest that we can exclude such empty ones from archival by early-bird deletion, that's the correct way with no hurts, not keeping, this way is really hurting future new users. ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 05:14, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- The main thing is, deleting a one page doesn't do any good, and since it's already been soft-closed, the process isn't exactly fair. And since there's no negative impact anyway, I guess it's fine to just keep it. But, not really impact much thing Sheminghui.WU (talk) 12:43, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Sheminghui.WU Anyway, I suggest that we can exclude one from your archival proposal: Turkish (Wn/tr) as someone else pointed above, there are really nothing but spam pages under Wn/tr prefix. Presumably, that's already a scandal of Incubator. ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 11:52, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah If there truly is an extremely exceptional incubator version that cannot be resolved through cleanup and has a significant negative impact, then of course it is open to discuss, I won't be opposite. Sheminghui.WU (talk) 12:39, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
Since someone pointed above, I suggest that even we are considering to archive all Wikinews test projects without deletion, but this Turkish one should really be excluded from archival, and should consider deleting all pages, and with explaination to direct to either tr.wikipedia or Miraheze/Fandom... for future news contributions, due to full of spam-only pages, include the mainpage. --~2026-23926-28 (talk) 11:24, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
not in shihhi arabic Almajidy【Talk】 07:36, 11 May 2026 (UTC)
- Seems already deleted, close? ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 12:00, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
one page wiki test projects Almajidy【Talk】 12:10, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
- Notifyed two users that were active on some of above. ~2026-23926-28 (talk) 05:07, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- Wp/afb has multiple pages. JJUPLOADS22 (talk) 19:01, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
