Incubator:Requests for deletions

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This is official Incubator policy.
You may edit it, but please discuss major changes on the talk page first.


This page is for nominating test wikis for deletion, or for nominating pages related to the maintenance of the Incubator for deletion. For discussing about the deletion of pages in a specific test wiki, please use the relevant talk pages where the editors of the test wiki are most active in to discuss them (such as the talk page of the test wiki's main page). Pages that should be speedily deleted should be tagged with {{delete}} with a proper reason.

Common reason for deleting pages here on Incubator include:

  • Speedy deletion requests (vandalism, spelling corrections, correcting prefixes etc.)
  • Deletion of a complete test wiki according to the policy's section "Closure or Deletion"
  • If a project is given final approval by the language committee, the test's pages will be imported to the new subdomain wiki. All pages here will be deleted, except the info page.
Requests for deleting single pages
  • Pages that may be subject to speedy deletion:
    • In general, the rules for speedy deletion are the same as listed on Meta.
    • Speedy deletions may be proposed by putting {{delete}} (and a reason) on the pages that should be deleted and will thereby be added to Category:Maintenance:Delete, where an administrator will decide about them. It is not needed to vote on a speedy deletion. If there are doubts, the administrator reviewing the speedy deletion request will ask the proposer. If you have doubts, but are not an administrator, you are also free to add a remark below the {{delete}} template on the page.
      If the reason you give is because the current name is wrong, somehow (grammar, spelling, etc.), administrators normally assume the content has been moved to a different (better) location. It will help the administrators if you include a link to the moved page in your deletion request.
      Consider turning the wrong spelling into a redirect to the right spelling before asking for deletion. (And please note that if the wrong spelling is likely to be a common misspelling, it may be useful to leave the redirect, both here and once your test is in its own subdomain.)
      If you do not turn the wrong spelling into a redirect, please simply add {{delete}} to the top of the page. Do not blank out the rest of the page.
  • In other cases, you may put a request below.
Requests for test deletions
  1. You can propose a deletion of a test language. You may only propose a deletion of a test language which does not have a proposal on Meta or is rejected by the langcom.
    1. You can vote, but it has just a little bit of influence. Arguments are better.
    2. You can propose moving the test to the Incubator Plus.
  2. After 10 days, an administrator will make a decision about deleting the test or not.
  3. If needed, an XML file must be exported (needed means: if the test is not vandalism or nonsense – in general, use common sense)
  4. Remember that this has nothing directly to do with the decision of the language committee (langcom).

Requests[edit]

Still pending[edit]

  • The following request has passed ten days and could be completed. We are still waiting for one input. StevenJ81 (talk) 19:40, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
    • Three tests for Baybayin Tagalog (Wp/tgl, Wt/tgl and Wq/tgl). Described above; to be archived in a single XML as described above.
      @MF-Warburg: For this, all the pages in all three test projects are in categories or subcategories of Wp/tgl—and that includes the Wt and Wq pages. Do you need me to move these pages so they have a "Wp/tgl" prefix, or can you turn them all into a single XML archive just as it is? StevenJ81 (talk) 01:07, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
      @MF-Warburg: Update. Go ahead and make the XML, but hold off on deleting these. User:Sky Harbor, who was involved in some of the Langcom discussions on this, is looking into the question of whether these pages can be drawn into the tl subdomain projects. I'll keep you posted. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:41, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
      Ok. For the record, every combination of pages can easily be put into an XML file (see Special:Export). --MF-W {a, b} 06:29, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Proto-Indo-European Wikipedia (Wp/ine)[edit]

This project has been rejected three times at the Language Committee. It seems to be an active community, so it should probably be moved to Incubator Plus at Wikia. StevenJ81 (talk) 00:12, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Community notified at Talk:Wp/ine/Pr̥mom Pā̆g̑inom. StevenJ81 (talk) 04:52, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
Yes, please move our PIE wiki to Incubator Plus before deletion. We do not want to have our work wasted. AA (talk) 09:24, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
@MF-Warburg: Can you help this community get set up for the move? In particular:
  • Can we accomplish the move solely by page prefixes, or does the community need to make sure that every page contains the category Category:Wp/ine? (If the latter, is having a subcategory sufficient, as long as the subcategory is in fact included itself within the main category?)
  • Is there anything else the community needs to do to get the test project ready for export?
  • Can you help with the import on the other side?
Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:42, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
Move can be done solely by Category:Wp/ine category, using page prefix as crosscheck for the following namespaces: Main, except talk, Template, except talk, in Wp/ine namespace. It is the most secure way. Go ahead. For being 100% sure I added missing Category:Wp/ine, so it can be used for crosschecking of the sitemove procedure. AA (talk) 14:01, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
I was asking MF-W a technical question. But are you telling me that all main and template pages in the test are now included in the category Category:Wp/ine? That's very helpful. I'd encourage you to put your Talk:, Template talk:, Category: and Category talk: pages in as well. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:03, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
I categorized and salvaged all talks related to PIE wiki in Category:Wp/ine. I hope begin of sitemoving can occur now. AA (talk) 15:43, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks very much. I'm waiting to hear from MF-Warburg, who has more mastery of the technical details than I do. Additionally, RfDs have to stay open for ten days. So in the meantime, you can continue to work here; just remember to make sure any new pages carry Category:Wp/ine. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:05, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
When exporting a test, I usually take all pages with the prefix. So it's not that important to have all pages in a certain category. --MF-W {a, b} 22:46, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
When sitemove to Incubator Plus will be performed? AA (talk) 12:30, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Discussion needs to stay open here until 15 January (rules here). After that, we'll start working on the site-move. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:13, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
As a Linguistics major myself, I really have reservations about this. We know too little about the Proto-Indo-European language/variant. A Proto-Indo-European Wiktionary might be more helpful than a Proto-Indo-European Wikipedia. 【粵語文學大使殘陽孤侠粵維辭典起錨! 17:27, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
@Cedric tsan cantonais, what do you have reservations about? Keeping it? Having it? Deleting it?
  • Personally, I can't tell if the contents of this project are really more in the way of an encyclopedia or more in the way of a dictionary. @AKIA AYAK, can you please elaborate a bit?
  • That said, a project like this is really pretty far outside the scope of the WMF's goals. If you look at m:LPP, you'll see the following:
4. The proposal has a sufficient number of living native speakers to form a viable community and audience (Wikisource wikis are allowed in languages with no native speakers, although these should be on a wiki for the modern form of the language if possible).
  • If the proposal is for an artificial language such as Esperanto, it must have a reasonable degree of recognition as determined by discussion (this requirement is being discussed by the language committee).
  • Accordingly, most ancient languages that are still active around here either existed before that policy went into place or have something else that justifies them. (Latin is always a unique case, anyway. Don't look to start drawing conclusions and analogies from it.)
In particular, the Langcom has explicitly rejected a proposal for a project in this language three times. So I think we have to see this project as being outside the scope of what WMF wishes to offer. Accordingly, moving a project like this—or even a PIE Wiktionary—to Incubator Plus makes sense. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:41, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Content of this site is more like an encyclopedia, there are articles about various things. AA (talk) 09:59, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Today is 15 January, let's move PIE wiki to Incubator Plus today. AA (talk) 11:38, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
Stock post message.svg Doing...  @MF-Warburg, SPQRobin, if you would be so kind? StevenJ81 (talk) 14:22, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
I imported the pages to Incubator Plus and deleted them here. --MF-W {a, b} 08:37, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. For the best part, Proto-Indo-European will remain pure and undefiled by lovecraftization, e.g. Y and J instead of J and DZ. AA (talk) 10:01, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Hunnic Wikipedia (Wp/xhc)[edit]

Rejected at the Language Committee. Has little content. StevenJ81 (talk) 00:15, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Community notified at Talk:Wp/xhc/Main Page. StevenJ81 (talk) 04:54, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
Err, isn't m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Hunnic 2 existing? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:36, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
You're quite right; I missed that. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
That said, this is clearly an invalid RFL and should be ignored. Aside from the fact that it was opened just two months after the previous one closed:
  • CasetteTapeMaster is indeffed here at Incubator for persistent vandalism.
  • 173.55.239.44 is almost certainly a sock of CasetteTapeMaster (who was blocked on Meta during the period that 173 contributed).
  • Utkuhutlulum, who wrote the unsigned post at the bottom, (a) is an account that was used exactly once cross-wiki—for that post, and (b) described himself/herself as a "native speaker" (sic) of a language that has been extinct for 1500 years, and isn't even very well characterized! StevenJ81 (talk) 04:17, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Anyway I Symbol support vote.svg Support deletion! --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:38, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done StevenJ81 (talk) 00:29, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Items from Category:Incubator:Test wikis/status/invalidcode[edit]

For information: Items already empty[edit]

  • Wt/bat-smg: Samogitian Wikipedia already exists. But we are going to encourage any future test projects in the language to use the langcode sgs instead.
  • Wb/mo, Wn/mo, Wp/mo, Wq/mo, Wt/mo, Wp/mol: These are projects in Moldovan—that is, Romanian, but written in Cyrillic. A Wikipedia and (small) Wiktionary of this nature were closed in favor of ro: and ro:wikt: several years ago, and the root pages of these projects all describe that.
  • Wp/pkm: Empty, but there is technically a request on Meta that is open that needs to be closed. StevenJ81 (talk) 19:12, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

RfD: Wp/amz[edit]

This test has about twenty pages in it. But it has a number of problems:

  • amz is not a proper language code for any Berber/Amazigh language
  • Langcom has rejected this project in favor of some others
  • There are five other Wikipedia test projects in Berber/Amazigh languages here. One (Wp/ber) has been rejected, and Langcom is thinking two others should be combined. But the disposition of all the others (including the rejected one) is really something requiring some coordination and discussion at Langcom.
  • This test, on the other hand, can easily be deleted. I will cross-post this RfD within each test community:

Request to members of all Berber/Amazigh test communities: Please determine if any of these pages is written in your language and would be worth keeping. If so, please feel free to move any/all into your respective tests.

StevenJ81 (talk) 19:11, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

RfD: Wy/mo[edit]

Same reasoning as above. There are two pages here which seem like pretty nice pages. But I think we can safely delete them, and restore them if ro:voy: ever wants to start adding Cyrillic-script pages. StevenJ81 (talk) 19:00, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Delete. --MF-W {a, b} 06:26, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

RfD: Wp/qz[edit]

See User talk:Aibek.abdir. I have inquired on kk: as to whether there was any interest in importing these pages and I never got a response. This should probably be archived first. StevenJ81 (talk) 19:00, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Wp/kas[edit]

23 pages of Kashmiri in Devanagari. Presumably redundant to:

For the record, it is apparently not feasible to run an automatic script converter of the type used on Serbo-Croatian or Kazakh Wikipedia. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:24, 18 January 2017 (UTC)