User talk:Dezedien

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سلام

وش راك إذا كنت مهتم بالمشروج ماذا بيك تبعثلي ميساج في باجة نتاعي هنا --Dezedien (talk) 13:12, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

رابط الجروب لا يعمل

الاخ الفاضل : رابط الجروب على فيسبوك الذي ارسلته لي لا يعمل Omda4wady (talk) 07:09, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Wiktionary is different from Wikipedia

Ahla Dezedien, Wiktionary is a dictionary for Maghrebi words. The pages your created are not dictionary entries but information articles (or stubs) which should be written in Wikipedia instead. In the Wiktionary, only words of the language with (or without) their definition and synonyms. I hope your understood the reason for deleting your contributions. --GeekEmad (talk) 19:21, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

سيستام الخدمة

عسلامة باشنودة، تتذكر كي سئلتك ع المجدوب؟ جاتني فكرة. بور لو مومون نكمّلو نخدمو في ويكيسيونار، الساعة نحطو قواعد للكتابة، و نعملو قالب باش يسهل الخدمة. عندي برشة ديكسيونارات ب الدارجة نقدر نبعثهملك و الا نحطهم ع الانترنت. لاكن، بعدها، شنوا رايك نحلو Wikiquote و Wikisource ب الدارجة؟ ف الاول نلمو الامثال الشعبيّة الكلّ و زيدهم اشهر المقولات ف العالم. ف الثاني، نلمو الاشعار القديمة ب الدارجة و القصايد و الملحون و القصص الشعبيّة و غيرها. واش رايك؟ --GeekEmad (talk) 06:00, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

أهلا بيك و مرحبا بيك نبقى على إتصال --- حاليا أنا متوقف و لكن أرسل لي مرة على مرة نتابع معاك و حيث ما يكون عندي وقد نشارك معاك لكن ---- ماذا بيك ما تتوقف عن الخذمة في المشروع باش نواصلو فيه --Dezedien (talk) 12:38, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Test administrator status expires in late May

This is to remind you that your test-administrator rights will expire late in May. (See Incubator:Test-administrators.)

• If you wish to continue as a test administrator, please put a request for renewal at I:RFTA approximately one week before expiration. Ideally, please also notify your test community on an appropriate page that you have a Request for Test Administrator open.
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Thank you. StevenJ81 (talk) (Incubator bureaucrat) 21:29, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

لازمني شويّة وقت

عسلامة، شنيّة حوالك؟ بغيت نقول لك اللي راني مشغول شويّة توّا، عندي اڨزامانات التلات جمعات الجايّة. بعدها، ننجّمو نتفاهمو ف الويكيسيونار و الويكيپيديا. حكيت معا StevenJ81 و اقترح عليّا شويّة فكار و حلول ل مشاكل الدارجة، پويسك هوّا يخدم على اللوغة اللادينو و عندو تجربة. --GeekEmad (talk) 21:44, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

ok - غادي نوقف العمل حتى تكون كملت --Dezedien (talk) 09:13, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

{{Wp/arq/Reflist}}

Hi, Dezedien. I commented out your redirect to a page trying to do {{Wp/arq/Reflist}} using a module. I've given you a working copy of the template instead. By all means continue to work on a module version. In the meantime, though, please go through the 63 (or so) pages that call {{Reflist}} and change them to {{Wp/arq/Reflist}} instead. Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 18:28, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi @StevenJ81: thanks a lot for letting us your help, it's really cool ; so now all of 63 articles is fixed, however i discover other broken likes on two pages.

i'm trying to repare but i'm not sure if it's the best solution.if you have small little time to give us, please see that --Dezedien (talk) 18:40, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Have a look. StevenJ81 (talk) 19:22, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Concerning the Algerian Wiktionary

Hello, I am now fully available for work. However, I have an advice about the Algerian Wiktionary. I do not think it is worth it right now. Algerian Arabic has no standard orthography, yes, we may include all possible spelling variations, but I think we should wait a little bit. Furthermore, I personally want the project to be a Maghrebi Wiktionary, rather than an Algerian one. Nevertheless, if you insist on adding entries to the Algerian Wiktionary, I suggest doing it manually because you might decide to change the spelling or the entry layout after some time. Spelling aside, there is the problem of "Standard language". The Algerian speech today is different from that of 50 years ago, especially the Arabic one. For example, someone from 1900 might use words like frisa, jrima, mɛǝllǝm, jmiɛ while a modern Algerian pronounces them following Standard Arabic pronunciation, which he learned at school: farisa, jarima, muɛǝllim, jamiɛ. In Melhun and Chaabi poetry, the old pure pronunciation is retained, however, on the streets, the newer Arabic-influenced words are the norm. So, you also have to make a choice about that. --عimad (talk) 02:50, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Hello @GeekEmad: For a person who lives outside the Maghreb and has no idea of the local language, I agree that there is no difference between Tunisian, Moroccan or Algerian. The same observation is that when we ::analyze the Algerian, it contains several sub-dialects like Tlemcani, Annabi, Dziri, Blidi, Wahrani and more.

I am not a specialist in linguistics, I just want to help by the knowledge I have, I do not want to create more blur and ambiguity for researchers or for simple readers.

I have thought for a long time on this subject

However, it is possible to add to each word page the geographical origin of the word and in which sub-dialect that word is included

--Dezedien (talk) 10:04, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

What about the spelling? --عimad (talk) 18:20, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Deleting (especially without redirect)

Hi, Dezedien. When you delete a page, and especially without a redirect, please make sure you're not leaving any orphan pages or redirects lying about. For example, when you moved Wp/arq/فرانساوية فل جازاير (الـ), you left behind a redirect at Wp/arq/فرانساوية فلجازاير that needed fixing. I've done that, but if you are going to delete pages as a test-admin, you also need to go check on things like broken redirects and double redirects within your test. Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:38, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your advices --Dezedien (talk) 14:59, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Preparing for approval

Dezedien, and also Csisc, I think Wp/arq is well on its way to approval. And given that the project all of a sudden went quiet this month, I'm guessing that the students in Chlef are on break now. Let me mention two things that I think need to happen to get this project over the top:

1. Go to translatewiki.net (this page) and finish translating at least the "most used MediaWiki core messages", along with as many of the rest of the "MediaWiki core messages" that you can manage. It probably won't be too hard; I suspect that in many cases copying from the standard Arabic versions will do fine for your purposes.
2. Make sure your project has a reasonable percentage of substantive articles. I set my project to "Wp/arq" and went to about 15 random pages, and only about two really had a lot of content in them. LangCom will want to see a higher percentage than that.

All that said, your project is one of only ten currently in the Incubator that actually meet the activity standard for approval. And of those ten, two are already approved (and will soon be deleted) and two more are about to be approved. So you're close. Good luck getting the rest of the way there. StevenJ81 (talk) (Incubator administrator) 13:12, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

StevenJ81: I thank you for your support. The students of Chlef are in break now and that is why the project was inactive in Incubator this month. However, we still work on the project mostly offline. In fact, GeekEmad is developing a kind of Algerian Arabic that can be intelligible for Tunisian and Moroccan people so that we can have contributors from Tunisia and Morocco for our project. He is also developing a practical orthography guidelines for Algerian based on the the habits of users to easily write Melhun (19th century) as well as books and social network messages (20th and 21st century). We have also developed some templates offline for Algerian Wikipedia. As for the MediaWiki messages, there are several false friends between Modern Standard Arabic and Algerian Arabic. Furthermore, Algerian Arabic has its particular morphology rules that differ from the ones of the Modern Standard Arabic. Consequently, we have to manually translate the messages and not to copy from the messages in Modern Standard Arabic. However, we will do that. As for the articles in Algerian Wikipedia, you are right. We should fix that. I presented last year a method to create articles based on lead-only translations from other Wikipedias. The method is simple and efficient and it was already adopted by the community of the Algerian Wikipedia. The method will solve this problem in around 2 months of work. Yours Sincerely, --Csisc (talk) 13:32, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks very much. I'll make a note that we'll be aiming to get this project approved during the autumn. Please keep me posted on your progress. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:36, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

this is Chlef university students see more with Category:Wikipedia Education Program Algeria 2016-2017 Awards Ceremony

Hello StevenJ81 thanks for supporting / helping us and the djazairi project - actually, it is the summer holidays for the Algerian university, We plan to start the next program will begin in the early fall. Students should carry out the development of articles that already exist. Including adding links to an image and correcting spelling errors. For us, we should make a translation of the rest of the interface and messages on the translatewiki. We are aware of the quality of the articles, but we have asked contributors to create page skeletons - likes cities, likes departments, etc. But it is a good experience for us and for the students that they have for the first time in an Algerian university, a student can study with an enthusiastic program. And we are proud of the result.

Thanks for your advices --Dezedien (talk) 14:47, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome. You certainly don't have to hurry to get the project out of Incubator if you don't want. You're welcome to take your time and have the students work slowly and methodically on this. I'm not present to know what the educational goals are, nor the course rubrics, nor the long-term planning ideas. I simply want you to know that if you want to have this project approved as an independent project, this is what needs to happen. (And, in fact: if you think, for example, that you see the project as being ready for approval not this fall, but in the winter or spring, that's fine. If we know what you have in mind we can help you get there along the timeline you have in mind.) StevenJ81 (talk) 14:58, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Spring semester 2018

Hi. I see you're back in business. Great!

Just a little reminder: do what you need and want to do for educational purposes. We're in no hurry to push you out of Incubator as long as you're happy being here. But to the extent you want to start aiming toward an approved, independent project:

• Focus on adding detail to existing pages more than creating new page skeletons.
• Work on the interface at translatewiki.

Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 21:12, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

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Administrateur de test

Votre statut d'administrateur de test sur Wp/arq et Wt/arq va expirer le 29 mai (donc en 6 jours). Si vous voulez garder ces privilèges, il faut se postuler de nouveau sur I:A. Cordialement, Ebe123 (^{Talkabout it}|_contribs) 03:55, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Win l7aqtou? (where is the project today?)

I want to help on the wikipedia algerian project, but there is nobody here, did you abandonned the project? Why there is not confirmation of the project? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kellybundy (discussion • contribs) 16:05, 26 November 2018 (UTC).

Bonjour, on y travaille avec les étudiants de l'université de chlef

... que pouvez vous apporter comme aide ? Dezedien (talk) 09:39, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Bonjour, je peux écrire un article par jour. J'ai déjà fait ces pages:

• Wp/arq/جانت
• Wp/arq/الجزاير
• Wp/arq/فينسان فان ڨوڨ
• Wp/arq/نشارك في ويكيبيديا
• Wp/arq/ اللوغة الجزايرية

Et je suis en train d'arranger celles existant déjà. Le problème c'est qu'il y a beaucoup de doublons ou de pages avec des noms en français et ça je ne ::sais pas l'arranger. Il manque aussi beaucoup d'options, de templates...comparé au wikipédia français ou anglais.

Voilà merci Kellybundy

PS: et aussi, comment voir les nouvelles pages créées et pourquoi le nombre d'articles disponibles n'augmente pas au fur et à mesure qu'on créé des pages svp? Merci. Kellybundy

Bonjour merci pour ta participation au projet

voici un lien qui va te permettre de suivre l'evolution de tous le projet depuis son debut

clique ici et tu verra

PS: a la fin de chaque message n'oublie pas de signer avec : --~~~~

--Dezedien (talk) 19:43, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Bonjour, est-ce que c'est toi qui t'occupe de supprimer les doublons et de créer des catégories et d'améliorer l'interface (options, templates) ou je vois ça avec quelqu'un d'autre, si oui, avec qui? Il faut des informaticiens et moi je ne sais pas du tout faire ça malheureusement. Merci --Kellybundy (talk) 14:03, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Tous le monde peut le faire - c'est très facile je peut te montrer pour la première fois et tu pourra le faire - sinon pour supprimer je peut supprimer des article qu'on jugera effaçable je t'encourage a le faire ou a demander des suppression a moi --Dezedien (talk) 10:13, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Bonjour, ok. Alors il y a pleins de doublons à supprimer que je t'ai préparé (je peux pas supprimer), et j'ai renommé pleins d'articles mal nommés, il faut alors supprimer les redirections en VERT https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Wp/arq. Merci --Kellybundy (talk) 17:34, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

PS: Alors ya un problème, les étudiants de Chlef ont créé des dizaines et des dizaines de pages vides et inutiles sur des douars (micro hameaux) de la wilaya de chlef. Dans chaque page il n'y a aucune info, c'est juste écrit une ligne "ce douar est dans la wilaya de chlef" puis ils ont rajouté le sommaire et c'est tout. Pour moi c'est de la "pollution" wikipedienne, ils devraient être tous supprimés. Sauf ceux qui sont complets ou qui ont un intéret quelconque. J'ai l'impression qu'ils font ça juste pour remplir le wikipédia algérien avec n'importe quoi, or ce n,est pas le but de mettre tout et n'importe quoi. Ou alors il faut donner les renseignements exactes sur chaque douar. Merci -Kellybundy (talk) 17:54, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Bonjou Dezedien, je t'ai mis pleins d'articles à supprimer, si tu n'as pas le temps donne-moi la main, j'ai le temps et je peux faire avancer le wikipedia algérien très vite et très bien. Donne-moi la main pour supprimer stp. Et il faut arrêter d'écrire des articles sur la wilaya de Chlef, il faut écrire sur la philosophie, la science, la culture et l'histoire, du monde et de l'Algérie. Merci --Kellybundy (talk) 08:37, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

S'il vous plait Bachouda, supprimez tous les articles inutiles. Je sais pas comment faire, j'ai peur d'avoir fait des bêtises donc j'arrête. Mais SVP vous m'empêcher d'avancer dans les traductions. Il faut supprimer beaucoup beaucoup beaucoup de choses. SVP. C'est impossible pour moi de travailler comme ça, au milieu de pleins d'articles qui n,ont aucun sens et des centaines de doublons. Please. Merci. --Kellybundy (talk) 09:24, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Bonjour Kellybundy je viens de voir tes messages, le travail que vous faite est très important, car il permet d'augmenter la qualité du contenue et c'est la raison qui nous a pousser a ne pas demander la sortie du projet de l'incubateur. a ce stade les articles vide doivent rester tant qu'ils ne contiennent pas des informations fausses, il ne faut pas comparer avec les grandes encyclopédie comme Wikipedia FR car elle même a ses début sa commencé de cette façon. pour les articles en double je suis d'accord de procéder a la fusion de ces articles en un seul. sauf si le doublon est rédiger avec des alphabet différents on pourra discuter duquel garder on de les garder les deux en attendant leurs unification.

rajoute deux points de plus a chaque fois que vous postez un réponse ,pour la signature utilise le troisième bouton sous forme de xl apres le G et le I qui se trouve en haut. --Dezedien (talk) 09:41, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Bonjour Bachunda, j'ai selctionné 183 pages à supprimer et je les ai nommé "supprimer1" "supprimer2" etc.... ce sont tous des doublons que j'ai fusionné et des pages vides pas importantes, j'ai gardé les pages vides importantes (grandes villes etc), mais j'ai enlevé les centaines de dwarir (douar, petites baladiyat) car ça n'a pas sa place dans une encyclopédie (ce n'est pas un atlas géographique). J'ai laissé les grandes baladiyate et j'ai laissé les pages de dwawir pleines d'informations. Il me semble qu'il faut arrêter de faire des pages de dwawir, c'est une grosse erreur, je le répète ça n'a pas sa place dans une encylopédie (sauf si c'est une page de douar qui a des informations). On ne peut pas mettre le nom de chaque douar d'Algérie dans une encyclopédie. Voilà, STP supprime toutes les pages que j'ai renommé, je ne peux pas vous aider si c'est pas clair et propre, ya trop de doublons et de pages inutiles. Je répète, il faut arrêter d'écrire sur la géographie (ce n'est pas un atlas géographique). Sinon pour la langue d'écriture, je préfère personnellement qu'on écrire en arabe, car c'est la graphie la plus connue et utilisée, beaucoup d,algériens ne savent pas lire les lettres françaises. Merci

<Kellybundy> --Kellybundy (talk) 09:51, 4 December 2018 (UTC)</Kellybundy>

Supprimant des pages

@Kellybundy, Dezedien: Il vaudrait mieux utiliser {{delete}} pour ces pages. Après, les pages vont apparaître dans Category:Maintenance:Delete. Je vais les laisser pour Dezedien, qui peut décider de supprimer ou non. Mais en utilisant ce modèle, il n'y aura pas de redirections orphelines, etc. Merci. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:43, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Renewal of Test Adminship

@Dezedien: your test administrator rights will expire this month. You can apply for a one-year renewal at I:RFTA.--RAChitrali 08:06, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

@Rachitrali: Thankyou, so can i apply now or, should i wait until end this month ? --Dezedien (talk) 09:14, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

@Dezedien: please apply one week before expiration, thanks --RAChitrali 05:35, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Wp/arq listed at Requests for deletions

An editor has identified a potential problem with one of your test projects contributed Wp/arq and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Incubator:Requests for deletions/Requests#Wp/arq until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:09, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, for your message and your interest, I really appreciate it Dezedien (talk) 13:33, 8 February 2024 (UTC)