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Hello StevenJ81 and Welcome to Wikimedia Incubator!

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m:Structured Wikiquote[edit]

How is your experience seeing the demo there? I get "insecure connection".--Jusjih (talk) 02:32, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

@Jusjih: That's what I saw, and when I overrode that warning, I got a 502 Bad Gateway. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:39, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your answer. Then Structured Wikiquote does not even work.--Jusjih (talk) 02:40, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
m:Wikidata/Development/Wikiquote seems to be a much better idea to collect multilingual quotes. Hopefully it will be successful. Then I would like to close out Wq/mul and give up my importing right at that time, not now yet. Thanks for past supports.--Jusjih (talk) 01:16, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Tacawit wt as a independent project from the incubator ?[edit]

Good Day Steven, I have a question about a new project of the Tacawit WT. The project exists in the incubator since May 2018, and we have 1500 words in the Wiktionary. the three last months we had 5 users that had more than 10 contributions per month. And we do 4 presentations about incubators projects in the Wikis conferences. Wikimania 2018 Cape town by Emna and by Ahmed Houamel, Wiki Conference in Saint Petersburg Russia 2018 by Me (as example), WikiIndaba 2018 Tunisia (as example) and WikiConvention francophone (as example). And Soon we will have a MOOC for this project.

We have done a lot for this project and we will do even more. The question is, have we a chance to see this project independently from the incubator soon? if not what can we do for that?

Thank you in advance--Reda Kerbouche (talk) 15:43, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

I'll have a look in the next couple of days. Do check the interface translation at translatewiki.net in the meantime. StevenJ81 (talk) 18:32, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
@Reda Kerbouche: Just a quick question here: Is the policy of the project going to be that only shy-Latn will be allowed, or do you eventually expect to allow shy-Arab and shy-Tfng? StevenJ81 (talk) 16:02, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
The project is only for the Shy-latn because of this script is the official one in Algeria. Maybe in the future (10 years), we will add in shy-tfng if it will be a second official script. For shy-Arab it will never be taken since there is no source in Tacawit with arab script.--Reda Kerbouche (talk) 16:40, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
@Reda Kerbouche, Amire80: Fine. Good enough.
Amir, I think this project is about ready to go to LangCom. Only thing is that its translations haven't been downloaded from translatewiki to WMF yet. The reason, I think, is that the translations are all coded over there as shy-Latn, instead of just plain "shy". Can you help us fix that? StevenJ81 (talk) 13:50, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
@Reda Kerbouche: I'm going to go ahead and put this in front of LangCom. Please keep in mind the following:
  • Like all first-projects-in-language, this will require language verification. Please be prepared to name an academic or professional linguist—preferably one without strong ties to your test—whom LangCom can consult if it can find no expert on its own.
  • We're going to have to resolve the fact that the translations are living at shy-Latn and not shy. I don't think that's difficult, but it's just an extra complication.
  • Would you want the fallback language to be French? Arabic? English? something else?
  • There are three already-approved projects ahead of you at phabricator (Wt/yue, Wn/li, Wp/shn). There are two other projects that are effectively approved, pending only language verification (Wp/hyw—but much content for that will come from hy:—and Wp/skr). So it may take a while to get you up to the point of project creation. Just please be patient. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:45, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
I will wait for, no problem and I will prepare all that you write to me here. We will use the fallback language in French--Reda Kerbouche (talk) 09:49, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Wt/diq wy/diq[edit]

We want to open these project. Okey, I accept, we are only two-three user. We are not perfect but our work remains inconclusive. Xorasan (talk) 09:55, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

@Xorasan: There is a specific rule about this: there must be three registered users each making ten edits per month over three consecutive months. The purpose of this rule is to ensure that there is really a community supporting a project, and that a project is not just the work of one or two people. So if you really want to open these projects, please meet that requirement. (And even better: see if you can get additional contributors from the Wikipedia community to participate.)
Additionally: you need to continue to make progress on translating the interface at translatewiki.net. (See translatewiki:Special:LanguageStats/diq.) In particular, I would request that you and team do the following:
  • Fix or confirm the five messages marked "outdated" in the "MediaWiki (most important messages)" group
  • Try to do at least another 200–300 of the untranslated messages in the "MediaWiki core" group
Thank you for your interest and your hard work here. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:56, 20 November 2018 (UTC)


Hi Steven. I know it has to be in Maa language, sorry for that. I don't have a knowledge on the language but I am orienting a couple of Tanzanian and Kenyan collaborators that are interested in the project. The issue with them is, they are not familiar with the interface of Incubator. If it is possible, I would ask for some time - it just takes time to get all terms translated. But I am not sure if I have broken some rules, please let me know. Thanks.--Diotime (Doutes, aide...) 06:00, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Wp/avk, typographie[edit]

Steven bonjour.

Pour Wp/avk. En matière de typographie, les règles du Kotava sont que les signes comme les parenthèses (), les crochets [], les accolades {}, les tildes d'insertion ~~ ou les guillemets «» sont toujours accompagnés d'une espace avant et après, avec une espace insécable après pour les signes ouvrants ( xx , [ xx , { xx, ~ xx, « xx, et une espace insécable avant pour les signes fermants xx ), xx ], xx }, xx ~, xx ».

Pour respecter normalement cela, je suis obligé dans les articles de noter systématiquement avec & nbsp ; ( xx , [ xx , { xx, « xx, et xx ), xx ], xx }, xx » pour que la mise en paragraphe ne sépare pas les éléments. Est-ce qu'il n'existerait pas une méthode très simple, et légère pour le moteur (une sorte de directive de préprocesseur) qui permettrait de traiter automatiquement cela, tout en gardant "clair" le texte des articles.

Mes excuses par avance si ma question devrait plutôt être adressée à quelqu'un d'autre. Axel xadolik (talk) 10:21, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

@Axel xadolik: Je ne suis pas sûr.
Il est possible créer des modèles, certainement, comme {{Wp/avk/( }} = ( , etc. Ce ne sera pas si utile sur l'Incubateur per se (car les préfixes), mais probablement satisfaisant si vous allez créer un wiki.
Je suggère que tu demandes à Phabricator s'il soit possible (techniquement) intégrer cette idée dans la typographie des pages avec le LangCode avk. Si ça peut se passer, toutes les pages en Kotava – ici, ou n'importe où – seront correctes. Mais je ne sais pas si ce soit possible. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:40, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
Merci Steven. Je vais attendre pour l'instant, cela n'est pas le plus important. On regardera plus tard cette question. Axel xadolik (talk) 17:39, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

AVK : Idée de page générale pour les pays[edit]

Bonjour. Je voudrais ton avis, voir ici : User_talk:Axel_xadolik/Weslara_Tanzania. Merci. Axel xadolik (talk) 10:14, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Test adminship[edit]

Hi Steven. I requested the test adminship at wt/min back in October, and you said it would be untimely before it has 45 to 50 articles. Considering the recent growth, would you please reconsider my request? Thank you! Muhraz (talk) 12:15, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Please make a new request at I:RFTA. I expect that it will be successful. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:38, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

How see a filtered chart of articles for AVK[edit]

Hello Steven. Where I can find the function to see the pages weight-ordered for Kotava? By the function "long pages" of the special pages, it's global to all the wikis hosted in Incubator, and I don't understand how filter it. The number of pages in the AVK main namepage is now 800, and I would able to appreciate the proportion of stubs, the distributive chart of the whole of pages, etc. Could you indicate me how do this? Regards, thanks. --Axel xadolik (talk) 11:19, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello. Do I should get test adminship rights to dispose of such tools? The AVK wiki works well, with 6 active users and many interesting contents, but I would want to have a precise chart of this. Thanks. --Axel xadolik (talk) 23:29, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
@Axel xadolik: If such tools exist, I don't know about them or how to use them. (If I really needed to do that, I'd probably download the page names one page at a time to Excel and then filter.) If you see such a tool around here, by all means let me know. Otherwise, go to m:Tech and ask someone there for help.
PS #1: That use of "dispose of" either does not exist at all in English or is obscure/obsolete, though you created it from good French. I'd recommend "... to gain access to such tools" or something like that.
PS #2: If you submit a request to be test-admin at I:RFTA around 15 January, I would be in favor of your candidacy. But it won't help you with this question.
StevenJ81 (talk) 19:02, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: Thank you Steven, and I am very sorry for my approximate English (without automatic translator). I asked you because WP has developed many tools quite unknown for a beginner, and I thought that maybe... And if I discover such ones, I'll transmit you the information, sure.
I thought wait a moment to submit a request for the test-adminship, and I'll do it. But I have just seen that someone I don't know, has requested at Meta for eligibility of Kotava. I hope that this request is not too early. Regards. --Axel xadolik (talk) 07:13, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
@Axel xadolik: Formally, it's not too early. In practice, there are LangCom members who are fairly hostile to any but the most well-developed ConLangs. I managed the process very carefully to get Elefen approved, and at that it wouldn't have happened but that there was a Facebook group with 900 members in it. I'm really afraid that the speaker group for Kotava is too small to be of interest to those members of LangCom for now. What I will probably end up doing is putting this on hold for a while to let it mature, possibly then reject it for the time being, but then let it stay on Incubator under less strict rules. But we'll see. I'm leaving it alone for the moment. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:06, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you @StevenJ81: for this clarification and your impression.
As I said, what is important for me and all kotavusik, it's the content, the encyclopaedic (and linguistic) quality of the articles. There is no urgency to be officially on Wikipedia, Incubator is already very good, if there is not risk of being roughly removed and all the work done would be lost.
In my idea, I'd like to get at least 2500 articles (and many with a real content) before thinking about going through the official step, it might take one year.
The Kotava community is small, it's true, and it is not very buzzing on famous social networks. Since 12 years a public forum exists and works, but also a totally private portal through which many things happen and are driven (just a small skylight, encyclopedia theme: [1] ).
Lingua Franca Nova is a beautiful project, managed and developed intelligently. Its Facebook group may have 960 members, but that does not mean much in the absolute. Since it's a "Latin-roman" language, many people think that it's easy and fancy taking a short interest and peck a little, but few really invest themselves in it. Actually, when I look at the activity on lfn.wp ( [2] ), I see that the big majority of articles are written and inserted by the creator of the language (George Boeree), in the fields of languages or medicine. There are not many other contributors.
For Kotava, her creator Steren Fetcey does not get involved in broadcast actions or on internet. She looks at things from afar and focuses on the translation of works (her last, the translation of the famous Quebec novel "Maria Chapdelaine", which does not even exist in Esperanto translation for instance!). Given the nature of Kotava resolutely aprioristic, learning it requires more willpower and perseverance than for LFN or Interlingua.
I have already succeeded to interest two experienced kotavusik, a specialist in prehistory (Angelalux) and a teacher of literature (Seramikya). If the project goes well, I'll be able to convince others to contribute too, I think.
Regards. --Axel xadolik (talk) 10:23, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Category move[edit]

Hi! :) Would you be able - or know someone who is - to use a bot to change the pages in this cat to this cat? My bot doesn't seem to work the way it should, because it doesn't want to log on. --OWTB (talk) 16:44, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

@Ooswesthoesbes: You should be able to do it with Cat-A-Lot pretty easily. Do you use it? StevenJ81 (talk) 18:38, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
To be honest, I haven't even ever heard of it... --OWTB (talk) 12:35, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Info available at c:Help:Gadget-Cat-a-lot. Very worthwhile. Meantime, I'll take care of this. Can you temporarily flag my account on n:li: as a bot (or flooder), or alternatively, do you care that it's going to bomb your Recent Changes log? StevenJ81 (talk) 14:34, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
I'm not a bureaucrat, so I can't do that. I won't mind you flooding the RC, as it is not going to exceed the 500 changes (category is too small). --OWTB (talk) 14:46, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done (but please check) StevenJ81 (talk) 15:18, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Yes, that's perfect! Thank you very much :) --OWTB (talk) 16:25, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
I'll see if I can figure out how it works too. --OWTB (talk) 16:30, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

I missed your email address[edit]

I missed your email address, please email me your email address here rachitrali@yahoo.com thanks --RAChitrali 07:05, 21 January 2019 (UTC)


Shalom. The pages on Wb/jam and Wt/jam to be deleted are the ones that are not completed and that nobody is going to edit. We are just trying to focus on a few but quality ones. --Katxis (talk) 18:55, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

bqi wiki incubator[edit]

Hello Dear StevenJ81
please see the bqi test wiki incubator and it's articles is there any problem to making this wiki.
best wishes.Mogoeilor (talk) 13:00, 3 February 2019 (UTC) Dear StevenJ81
please answer my questions!!!
best regards.Mogoeilor (talk) 11:39, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Apologies for missing your note last month. I've been busy in real life.
@Mogoeilor: Your project is coming along very, very nicely. The pages you have are nicely put together, you have a lot of supporting infrastructure, and you have met or are meeting requirements on activity and interface translation. At this point, you simply need more content. Don't create stubs, create real content pages like the one you have. There is no way that the Language Committee is going to approve a project with only 35 mainspace pages. They will look for something like 350 pages, and preferably more. Be patient, and keep working on it, because you're doing great so far. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:20, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
I will add that I saw you use a different-language Wikipedia as a source on one or two pages. Usually Wikipedia is not considered a reliable source for this purpose. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:00, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: what do you mean? ("I will add that I saw you use a different-language Wikipedia as a source on one or two pages. Usually Wikipedia is not considered a reliable source for this purpose".)
please give me an example to fix this problem.
so thank best regards.Mogoeilor (talk) 15:29, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
@Mogoeilor: See Wp/bqi/آیت الله بورۊگردی, for example, where the only reference seems to be en:Seyyed Hossein Borujerdi. You can incorporate references you find on the English page in your page, but the English Wikipedia page itself cannot be a source. (If I'm not reading this right, and it's a "see also", tell me, and I'll show you how to fix that.) StevenJ81 (talk) 16:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC)


At Incubator:Community Portal#Wp/frs you said It is legitimate to start a test.

Is that really the official LangCom position? A project that got rejected because of inactivity can be re-opened, yes (Category:Incubator:Test wikis/open-but-rejected‎), but a project that already got rejected for fundamental reasons (meta:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia East Frisian Low Saxon) can be too? What's the reason for that? Does that mean any rejected project can re-open a test? Why was the content of Wp/frs deleted after the rejection when re-opening was always an option? --::Slomox:: >< 15:42, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

@Slomox: Three things:
  1. Mainly, there wasn't any real content in Wp/frs, so we decided that deleting the couple of very nominal pages there would be a cleaner approach.
  2. Yes, the previous request was rejected for fundamental reasons. But there was also very little comment by LangCom at the time. I'd rather let the other person take his shot, then have LangCom (likely) reject the request. Then either (a) his content will be merged into nds wiki, or (b) he will pick up and move somewhere else (like Incubator Plus). The very fact that he is citing pseudo-political arguments there will hurt his chances for approval in the long run.
  3. LangCom does not actually control Incubator. Rules here are easier than rules for a full project approval; in general projects with legitimate language codes are allowed to stay. (In particular, there are a number of ancient/historical language projects in open-but-rejected that are allowed to stay here.) In practice, we still prohibit some tests that will never see the light of day (especially fictional language tests like Klingon or Tolkien languages). But this one probably needs to be allowed to stay for now. Don't worry. I am watching it. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:05, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
Okay, fair enough. Thank you. --::Slomox:: >< 16:10, 5 February 2019 (UTC)


Hi, please revert Unjal's editsBukhariSaeed (talk) 05:18, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

A chart of WP projects in Incubator with number of articles for each[edit]

Hello Steven. I created a small personal chart to get a quick idea of the importance of the other WP projects hosted in the incubator. You can find it here: User:Axel_xadolik/Incubator_wikis.

I think that might be interesting in a more general way. The "Number of Articles" column is a simple function that works in real time and is easy to put into a template. Regards. --Axel xadolik (talk) 17:26, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

It's interesting in certain respects, yes. Thank you. I do want to bring your attention to a couple of points you'll need to remember as you look at this.
  1. This chart is only as good as projects are at categorizing all their pages into their root categories (e.g., [[Category:Wp/avk]]) as well as any subcategories, because that function does not count articles that are only in subcategories.
  2. This chart says nothing about article quality; one can have several hundred three-line subs (sub-stubs?), but that doesn't mean that one's project is closer to approval.
  3. In the end, project approvals depend at least as much on participation as on size.
  4. This chart is not going to make it easier for you to overcome LangCom's hesitation on conlangs.
All that said, this is interesting and useful. Thank you. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:17, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

About CSS of test wiki[edit]

Can we set up a unique CSS for a test wiki, like MediaWiki:Vector.css, MediaWiki:Common.css, MediaWiki:Mobile.css? Texts in wn/lzh need vertical composition. Davidzdh (talk) 12:13, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

@Davidzdh: It is possible to do that. However, please see my comment at I:RFTA. I am strongly discouraging you from taking Wn/lzh any further. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:58, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: Thank you for reminding and answering me! Davidzdh (talk) 16:12, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Btw, could you help me to delete these articles? They were built wrongly. Davidzdh (talk) 16:30, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

template:Wn/lzh/亞洲門頂 template:Wn/lzh/北美洲門頂 template:Wn/lzh/南美洲門頂 template:Wn/lzh/大洋洲門頂 template:Wn/lzh/宗教門頂 template:Wn/lzh/寰宇門頂 template:Wn/lzh/政治門頂 template:Wn/lzh/新加坡門頂 template:Wn/lzh/日本門頂 template:Wn/lzh/朝鮮門頂 template:Wn/lzh/格致門頂 template:Wn/lzh/歐洲門頂 template:Wn/lzh/水土門頂 template:Wn/lzh/泉貨門頂 template:Wn/lzh/法律門頂 template:Wn/lzh/澳門門頂 template:Wn/lzh/群學門頂 template:Wn/lzh/臺澎金馬門頂 template:Wn/lzh/藝文門頂 template:Wn/lzh/訃聞門頂 template:Wn/lzh/越南門頂 template:Wn/lzh/身教門頂 template:Wn/lzh/非洲門頂 template:Wn/lzh/韓國門頂 template:Wn/lzh/香港門頂
Yes check.svg Done StevenJ81 (talk) 16:35, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much!Davidzdh (talk) 01:45, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Azerbaijani Wikinews[edit]

Hello dear StevenJ81. There are 500+ pages in the Azerbaijani Wikinews. There are several active users. We want the project to be free. Please help us. Thanks.--Turkmen talk 15:59, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

@Turkmen: You're definitely coming along. The minimum activity requirement is 3 consecutive months with at least three registered editors making at least ten edits each. You need to reach that target in April before Wn/az is eligible.
  • There are technical issues that have slowed down the process of creating wikis. Depending on whether that is resolved or not, I might even delay until May. That's not your fault, but I don't want to overload the work process queues.
  • Please go to translatewiki.net. You and your community should make sure that all MediaWiki (most important messages) are translated, and should get the number of untranslated messages in MediaWiki core down to below 1,000. Check in with me again about April 10. Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:11, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
@Turkmen:, narahat olma. Hamısını yavaş-yavaş həll edərik. --►Cekli829 17:52, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
@Cekli829: and StevenJ81, thanks--Turkmen talk 18:21, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Khakassia Wikipedia[edit]

Привет, Стивен, хочу сделать запрос тест-администратора Wp/kjh, кроме того есть ли возможность на принятие запроса о полноценной wikipedia, для хакасской википедии? Заранее благодарю, (Hi, Steven, I want to make a request to [be?] the test administrator [for] Wp/kjh. Besides, is it possible to accept a request for a full-fledged Wikipedia for Khakassia? Thank you in advance,)--Андрей Саг. (talk) 20:15, 13 march 2019 (UTC)

Привет, @Андрей. You can make a request to be test administrator at this page: I:RFTA.
It would be early to request a full fledged Wikipedia for Khakassia. I will write more tomorrow with details. StevenJ81 (talk) 23:26, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
@Андрей Саг.: Here is why your test is not ready for approval.
  1. Your test has a lot of pages, but every page I looked at (about 30) was either a stub (see ru:ВП:Stub) or a list (see ru:ВП:С). There is no content up to the standards of an encyclopedia right now.
  2. In order to be approved, a test needs an "active community". The minimum standard for an "active community" is to have at least three registered editors, making at least ten edits each, for at least three consecutive months, and then continuing until approval. See this analysis: Your test has not had even one month with three registered editors making at least ten edits each since 2014. Please find additional people to work with you on the project.
  3. In order to be approved, the community must start to translate the MediaWiki interface into its language. Start by translating the messages on this page, which are the most important MediaWiki interface messages.
StevenJ81 (talk) 17:35, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Changing content model[edit]

Please change the content model of the page Wp/khw/Module:Yesno from Wikitext to Scribunto.Adithyak1997 (talk) 14:57, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

@Adithyak1997: Please compare that page to Module:Wp/khw/Yesno. I know it can get confusing, but on Incubator, templates, modules and categories go in those namespaces, but project and help go in mainspace. If the module already in the module space is the same, we can simply delete the other one. And please let me know what to do about doc pages.
(PS: Best to ask things like this on I:AN. That way, if another administrator gets here before I do, you'll get faster service. I do watch that page.) StevenJ81 (talk) 17:08, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Retired code pages[edit]

Do retired code pages make sense and are useful? I can find a use for those pages.

@ You've long liked to add pages like this, and there are still 3–4 there that you created at some point or another.
Personally, I would not get rid of the ones that are there now. (And for the sake of peace, I won't even delete yours.) In general, I think they have value when they announce splits or mergers, at least when there has been an existing project (or test) using one of the involved codes. If we've deleted a material existing project having such a code (like the Moldovan series), then having {{Test wiki}} in place, with the code correctly categorized as "retired" is great.
I'm not especially interested in adding {{Retired code}} on pages where a code has been retired on the basis that the language was spurious. I'd make an exception if a project were already there at the time the code was retired, and we then deleted the project on that basis. (As above, that might actually be {{Test wiki}}, anyway.) But otherwise, at least in my view, a page like that under conditions like that only serves as a possible temptation for people to start vandalizing.
I'm in the middle on pages announcing splits or mergers where we've had no test projects running. Better in that case just to start a test using a valid code and to be done with it. Why even bring up the retired code?
I absolutely do favor making sure that {{Test wiki/validcode}} is up to date with all code retirements.
I hope that answers your question. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:16, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

A small request[edit]

When you feel free, please explain to me about what needs to be done on the page Incubator:Maintenance/Misplaced namespaces. Adithyak1997 (talk) 07:57, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

@Adithyak1997: Thank you for asking. This is a list of pages having misplaced namespaces so that they can be moved. Such pages include:
  1. Templates and modules in mainspace. In other words, the page name is "Wx/xyz/Template:Foo" instead of "Template:Wx/xyz/Foo".
  2. In reverse, project and help pages in those namespaces, but not in mainspace. In other words, the page name was "Help:Wx/xyz/Foo", instead of "Wx/xyz/Help:Foo".
Frankly, I don't know if that was done by automatic tool, or whether someone did it manually, or whether it was done using a toolserver tool and then results were pasted here manually. In any event, there was a list of pages here when I first became sysop here, and I cleaned it up. Periodically, I go in and check for errors like #2 above, because it's easy enough to do: one uses Special:AllPages/Project:W and Special:AllPages/Help:W, and one can easily see the list of offending pages. The errors like #1 above aren't as easy to find. I tend to check them if and only if the project is coming up for approval. And I presume that @MF-Warburg checks both when he's preparing to export a test. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:31, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: So you mean that "Template:Wx/xyz/Foo" is the correct one right?
Also, "Wb/lzh/Help:凡例" is wrong one right?Adithyak1997 (talk) 14:50, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
"Template:Wx/xyz/Foo" is right (and so is "Module:Wx/xyz/Foo").
"Wx/xyz/Help:Foo" and "Wx/xyz/Wikipedia:Foo" are right. (So is "Wb/lzh/Help:凡例.)
HELP and PROJECT work opposite from TEMPLATE and MODULE. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:41, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Formating error[edit]

@StevenJ81: what is formatting error? how to fix this [3] please help and guide. thanks --RAChitrali 04:50, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
@Rachitrali: Please do check now. It was an issue that happened when the template was copy pasted from another wiki/test wiki. @StevenJ81: Sorry to interfere in the things posted on your userpage.Adithyak1997 (talk) 15:37, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
@Adithyak1997: Not a problem. User talk pages are just as public a discussion forum as any other talk pages. (Smile while you read en:WP:TPS.) StevenJ81 (talk) 16:18, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

To keep Wq/mul and to give up my importing right[edit]

As Wq/mul show how multilingual quotes may be displayed, but too hard for newbies, I would like to keep it to wait for m:Wikidata/Development/Wikiquote to realize, with no need to expand the test, thus ready to give up my importing right. Thanks.--Jusjih (talk) 02:19, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done StevenJ81 (talk) 15:57, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks again. I wonder how we may get m:Wikidata/Development/Wikiquote going.--Jusjih (talk) 03:00, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Wp/hyw (Western Armenian)[edit]

Thank you very much for creation of this new main space for Western Armenian Wikipedia. Being a pioneering force in starting an incubator area for Western Armenian Wikipedia in January 2018. I am delighted we have reached here 15 months later and Western Armenian Wikipedia was created on 4 April 2019. I am very ready to contribute my best efforts in setting this new project on a firm footing. To highlight the importance of this newborn page, it would be beneficial that in language links in Armenian Wikipedia (hy.wikipedia.org), the first language link by preference would always be hyw if such a page exists in hyw, and that in hyw Wikipeda, the first language link that would would show would be the equivalent article in hy (Armenian). As things stand now, these links are treated in alphabetical sequence pushing the hy and hyw links further down Werldwayd (talk) 22:35, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Khowar Wikipedia[edit]

@StevenJ81: thanks for your suggestions, when we copy templates from Urdu wiki like this [Wp/khw/کرم_علی_شاہ] the info box template is not working like Urdu wiki, I think the incubator wiki is not supporting wikidata templates or otherwise, I and other contributors unable to fix those technical templates, therefore I am requesting other experts to fix the issue, now we have @Adithyak1997: who is expert in technical issues and fixing the templates and modules. please fix this template [Wp/khw/کرم_علی_شاہ] thanks --RAChitrali 05:14, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

@Rachitrali: Just check now. Adithyak1997 (talk) 14:39, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
@Rachitrali, Adithyak1997: Just to clarify: Incubator now supports Wikidata through arbitrary access. (See d:Wikidata:How to use data on Wikimedia projects.) It does not support direct access or direct links. So every Wikidata call from Incubator must explicitly name the wikidata Q item (or P item) being called. This shouldn't cause a problem if and when Khowar Wikipedia is approved. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:53, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
@Rachitrali: Actually, I have not used Wikidata very much. I have only added some interlanguage links. I would like to know whether you have found any problem in any of the pages with above problem. If yes, please do specify as I am be able to check if other pages have same problem, in future. Adithyak1997 (talk) 15:00, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Re: Deletion requests[edit]

Moved back to User talk: to keep the discussion in one place. 15:55, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

A doubt relating to prefix[edit]

I would like to know whether the template name Wy/ml/ഫലകം:Coord-E valid or not. Note that ഫലകം means Template in English. Adithyak1997 (talk) 18:00, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

It needs to move to Template:Wy/ml/Coord-E. StevenJ81 (talk) 05:40, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

A small doubt of Checkwiki[edit]

I have recently seen an edit done from an IP on the page Incubator:Administrators' noticeboard. My first doubt is whether that text is related to some threatening sort of text. Secondly, that IP have done an edit on User:Malik M Ramzan Arain. So I guess that edit might have been done by Malik M Ramzan Arain without logging in. I think the second part of my question can be answered through Checkwiki only. Adithyak1997 (talk) 08:04, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

I can't tell exactly, and there seem to be several different IP's involved. Rather than doing a Checkuser, I simply rolled back the edit on I:AN. I also removed both the IP's edit on that user's page and the user's own previous content, because both were out of scope. Thank you for bringing all this to my attention; I'd be most appreciative if you kept an eye open, as I certainly don't speak Urdu. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:00, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Frankly speaking, I actually doesn't know Urdu. I actually belong to the state with the nickname 'God's Own Country', Kerala. I only knows two languages namely English and Malayalam. I actually involve in such projects because of the reason that I am interested in maintaining things rather than creation. According to what I remember, I have created just 1 article or two in my past 3 years in Wikipedia. For the last one week, I was not able to edit actively due to poor internet connection in my area. Due to the language issue, what I used to do is that I will go to Google Translate to understand what is meant by each term which was the reason why I thought the text was threatening as stated in the top of this discussion. Adithyak1997 (talk) 18:05, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Good for you. (But a number of US states think that they're "God's Country", too. Smiley.svg ) StevenJ81 (talk) 19:07, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Adding categories to pages[edit]

Sorry to disturb you every time. I have recently gone through this page which consists of all the pages containing the prefix Wy/ml. But when I checked this category, it contains only 9 pages. With the help of Catanalysis, it was evident that there are around 230 pages belonging to Wy/ml. So, should all those pages present in Wy/ml be added to this category? Adithyak1997 (talk) 18:05, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

I can't require anyone to do that, but that's what I'd do. Some people don't like to do that because they feel that they are redundantly categorizing pages. (That is, they're putting the page in both the test's root category and in a subcategory of the root category.) But (unique to Incubator) that's the best way to keep track of pages by test.
Do you use Cat-A-Lot? If not, I can do this categorization quite easily and quickly for you (probably tomorrow, though). StevenJ81 (talk) 18:51, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
I haven't used it but is am (see wikt:be#Conjugation) interested in using a new tool. If you can, please wait for a day (i guess for 24 hours). Adithyak1997 (talk) 18:58, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
I'll wait as long as you want. If you've never used the tool, please use it on only a page or two at a time until you are confident you are using it correctly. Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 19:08, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
I will do a trial of 5 edits, after which I will proceed only after getting confirmation from you (same as the procedure for bot edits on wikis). Also, thanks for the correction. Adithyak1997 (talk) 19:12, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
Sorry. I was unable to do it. I have seen option related to images but was unable to do it with the tool. I think if you can, please do it. Adithyak1997 (talk) 14:03, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done (Mainspace and templates) Didn't do talk pages, and modules need a /doc subpage for this purpose. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:28, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. Adithyak1997 (talk) 15:30, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Test wt/Shy[edit]

Hello Steven, is there any news about the independence of the wt/Shy from the incubator? do you contact one of the two specialists of Tacawit that I send you by email?--Reda Kerbouche (talk) 04:30, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Saraiki Wikipedia[edit]

Dear, Saraiki Wikipedia is ready and hoped that technical problems had been solved. so kindly approve the Saraiki Wikipedia.Sraiki (talk) 13:57, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Symbol support vote.svg Support@Sraiki:Your Language project is eligible, please create more articles and involve more editors thanks-- RAChitrali 06:03, 10 June 2019 (UTC)


See my answer:https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incubator:Administrators#%E1%83%AF%E1%83%94%E1%83%9D_(Wn/ka)

--ჯეო (talk) 16:45, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

That was mistake at here: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Wn/ka/%E1%83%90%E1%83%9B%E1%83%98%E1%83%9C%E1%83%93%E1%83%98_%E1%83%A1%E1%83%90%E1%83%A5%E1%83%90%E1%83%A0%E1%83%97%E1%83%95%E1%83%94%E1%83%9A%E1%83%9D%E1%83%A8%E1%83%98_%E1%83%A1%E1%83%A0%E1%83%A3%E1%83%9A%E1%83%90%E1%83%93&oldid=prev&diff=4575995--ჯეო (talk) 16:46, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@StevenJ81: I would like to point out an issue. Please visit this page. I have posted it here since both are referring to the same page. I have seen 4 lines of data in that page that overrides the footer of any wiki page. Adithyak1997 (talk) 13:30, 10 June 2019 (UTC)