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Hello StevenJ81 and Welcome to Wikimedia Incubator!

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-- Welcoming Bot 18:55, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


Hi, May I ask? What are the requirements to approve a wiki.? Hmm. Bto - rinconada bikol is almost long here. I hope it is approved as a wiki --

Regards, --ShiminUfesoj (talk) 16:51, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

  1. There needs to be a community active in working on the project. We generally define this as 3 or more registered editors making 10 or more edits each for a period of at least 3 consecutive months, and then continuing until the project is approved.
  2. You need to translate the interface. That means that at minimum, the most-used MediaWiki messages, as well as enough additional messages in the core MediaWiki messages group to reach 13% of the total messages, must be translated at translatewiki.net
  3. There has to be enough encyclopedic content in your test that we can reasonably call it an "encyclopedia". This is a little subjective. But right now, while your project has a lot of pages, they are nearly all geography pages, and they are nearly all stubs. They need to be more diverse, and they need to be more filled out as full encyclopedia entries.
If you have other questions, please let me know. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:08, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
I/We need to takes 3 months of editing and create articles, Thanks for the Info..

--ShiminUfesoj (talk) 17:15, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

m:Structured Wikiquote[edit]

How is your experience seeing the demo there? I get "insecure connection".--Jusjih (talk) 02:32, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

@Jusjih: That's what I saw, and when I overrode that warning, I got a 502 Bad Gateway. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:39, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your answer. Then Structured Wikiquote does not even work.--Jusjih (talk) 02:40, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
m:Wikidata/Development/Wikiquote seems to be a much better idea to collect multilingual quotes. Hopefully it will be successful. Then I would like to close out Wq/mul and give up my importing right at that time, not now yet. Thanks for past supports.--Jusjih (talk) 01:16, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Why simple-fr instead of fr-simple?[edit]

AFAIK, simple is a correct IANA language subtag according to [1]:

Type: variant
Subtag: simple
Description: Simplified form
Added: 2015-12-29

but the rule of BCP47 is "ISO language code"-"subtag", not subtag first, so isn't the place that you created announcement a violation of BCP47? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 22:42, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

When you're right, you're right. I just followed the RFL page without thinking much about it. I will fix tomorrow morning my time. StevenJ81 (talk) 04:35, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done StevenJ81 (talk) 14:07, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Tacawit wt as a independent project from the incubator ?[edit]

Good Day Steven, I have a question about a new project of the Tacawit WT. The project exists in the incubator since May 2018, and we have 1500 words in the Wiktionary. the three last months we had 5 users that had more than 10 contributions per month. And we do 4 presentations about incubators projects in the Wikis conferences. Wikimania 2018 Cape town by Emna and by Ahmed Houamel, Wiki Conference in Saint Petersburg Russia 2018 by Me (as example), WikiIndaba 2018 Tunisia (as example) and WikiConvention francophone (as example). And Soon we will have a MOOC for this project.

We have done a lot for this project and we will do even more. The question is, have we a chance to see this project independently from the incubator soon? if not what can we do for that?

Thank you in advance--Reda Kerbouche (talk) 15:43, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

I'll have a look in the next couple of days. Do check the interface translation at translatewiki.net in the meantime. StevenJ81 (talk) 18:32, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
@Reda Kerbouche: Just a quick question here: Is the policy of the project going to be that only shy-Latn will be allowed, or do you eventually expect to allow shy-Arab and shy-Tfng? StevenJ81 (talk) 16:02, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
The project is only for the Shy-latn because of this script is the official one in Algeria. Maybe in the future (10 years), we will add in shy-tfng if it will be a second official script. For shy-Arab it will never be taken since there is no source in Tacawit with arab script.--Reda Kerbouche (talk) 16:40, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
@Reda Kerbouche, Amire80: Fine. Good enough.
Amir, I think this project is about ready to go to LangCom. Only thing is that its translations haven't been downloaded from translatewiki to WMF yet. The reason, I think, is that the translations are all coded over there as shy-Latn, instead of just plain "shy". Can you help us fix that? StevenJ81 (talk) 13:50, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
@Reda Kerbouche: I'm going to go ahead and put this in front of LangCom. Please keep in mind the following:
  • Like all first-projects-in-language, this will require language verification. Please be prepared to name an academic or professional linguist—preferably one without strong ties to your test—whom LangCom can consult if it can find no expert on its own.
  • We're going to have to resolve the fact that the translations are living at shy-Latn and not shy. I don't think that's difficult, but it's just an extra complication.
  • Would you want the fallback language to be French? Arabic? English? something else?
  • There are three already-approved projects ahead of you at phabricator (Wt/yue, Wn/li, Wp/shn). There are two other projects that are effectively approved, pending only language verification (Wp/hyw—but much content for that will come from hy:—and Wp/skr). So it may take a while to get you up to the point of project creation. Just please be patient. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:45, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
I will wait for, no problem and I will prepare all that you write to me here. We will use the fallback language in French--Reda Kerbouche (talk) 09:49, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Request a test admin for Mon Wikipedia incubator[edit]

I:Moved to I:A#Aue Nai (Wp/mnw). StevenJ81 (talk) 16:02, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Wt/diq wy/diq[edit]

We want to open these project. Okey, I accept, we are only two-three user. We are not perfect but our work remains inconclusive. Xorasan (talk) 09:55, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

@Xorasan: There is a specific rule about this: there must be three registered users each making ten edits per month over three consecutive months. The purpose of this rule is to ensure that there is really a community supporting a project, and that a project is not just the work of one or two people. So if you really want to open these projects, please meet that requirement. (And even better: see if you can get additional contributors from the Wikipedia community to participate.)
Additionally: you need to continue to make progress on translating the interface at translatewiki.net. (See translatewiki:Special:LanguageStats/diq.) In particular, I would request that you and team do the following:
  • Fix or confirm the five messages marked "outdated" in the "MediaWiki (most important messages)" group
  • Try to do at least another 200–300 of the untranslated messages in the "MediaWiki core" group
Thank you for your interest and your hard work here. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:56, 20 November 2018 (UTC)


Hi Steven. I know it has to be in Maa language, sorry for that. I don't have a knowledge on the language but I am orienting a couple of Tanzanian and Kenyan collaborators that are interested in the project. The issue with them is, they are not familiar with the interface of Incubator. If it is possible, I would ask for some time - it just takes time to get all terms translated. But I am not sure if I have broken some rules, please let me know. Thanks.--Diotime (Doutes, aide...) 06:00, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Wp/avk, typographie[edit]

Steven bonjour.

Pour Wp/avk. En matière de typographie, les règles du Kotava sont que les signes comme les parenthèses (), les crochets [], les accolades {}, les tildes d'insertion ~~ ou les guillemets «» sont toujours accompagnés d'une espace avant et après, avec une espace insécable après pour les signes ouvrants ( xx , [ xx , { xx, ~ xx, « xx, et une espace insécable avant pour les signes fermants xx ), xx ], xx }, xx ~, xx ».

Pour respecter normalement cela, je suis obligé dans les articles de noter systématiquement avec & nbsp ; ( xx , [ xx , { xx, « xx, et xx ), xx ], xx }, xx » pour que la mise en paragraphe ne sépare pas les éléments. Est-ce qu'il n'existerait pas une méthode très simple, et légère pour le moteur (une sorte de directive de préprocesseur) qui permettrait de traiter automatiquement cela, tout en gardant "clair" le texte des articles.

Mes excuses par avance si ma question devrait plutôt être adressée à quelqu'un d'autre. Axel xadolik (talk) 10:21, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

@Axel xadolik: Je ne suis pas sûr.
Il est possible créer des modèles, certainement, comme {{Wp/avk/( }} = ( , etc. Ce ne sera pas si utile sur l'Incubateur per se (car les préfixes), mais probablement satisfaisant si vous allez créer un wiki.
Je suggère que tu demandes à Phabricator s'il soit possible (techniquement) intégrer cette idée dans la typographie des pages avec le LangCode avk. Si ça peut se passer, toutes les pages en Kotava – ici, ou n'importe où – seront correctes. Mais je ne sais pas si ce soit possible. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:40, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
Merci Steven. Je vais attendre pour l'instant, cela n'est pas le plus important. On regardera plus tard cette question. Axel xadolik (talk) 17:39, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

AVK : Idée de page générale pour les pays[edit]

Bonjour. Je voudrais ton avis, voir ici : User_talk:Axel_xadolik/Weslara_Tanzania. Merci. Axel xadolik (talk) 10:14, 8 December 2018 (UTC)