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How see a filtered chart of articles for AVK

Hello Steven. Where I can find the function to see the pages weight-ordered for Kotava? By the function "long pages" of the special pages, it's global to all the wikis hosted in Incubator, and I don't understand how filter it. The number of pages in the AVK main namepage is now 800, and I would able to appreciate the proportion of stubs, the distributive chart of the whole of pages, etc. Could you indicate me how do this? Regards, thanks. --Axel xadolik (talk) 11:19, 21 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Hello. Do I should get test adminship rights to dispose of such tools? The AVK wiki works well, with 6 active users and many interesting contents, but I would want to have a precise chart of this. Thanks. --Axel xadolik (talk) 23:29, 3 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Axel xadolik: If such tools exist, I don't know about them or how to use them. (If I really needed to do that, I'd probably download the page names one page at a time to Excel and then filter.) If you see such a tool around here, by all means let me know. Otherwise, go to m:Tech and ask someone there for help.
PS #1: That use of "dispose of" either does not exist at all in English or is obscure/obsolete, though you created it from good French. I'd recommend "... to gain access to such tools" or something like that.
PS #2: If you submit a request to be test-admin at I:RFTA around 15 January, I would be in favor of your candidacy. But it won't help you with this question.
StevenJ81 (talk) 19:02, 8 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
@StevenJ81: Thank you Steven, and I am very sorry for my approximate English (without automatic translator). I asked you because WP has developed many tools quite unknown for a beginner, and I thought that maybe... And if I discover such ones, I'll transmit you the information, sure.
I thought wait a moment to submit a request for the test-adminship, and I'll do it. But I have just seen that someone I don't know, has requested at Meta for eligibility of Kotava. I hope that this request is not too early. Regards. --Axel xadolik (talk) 07:13, 9 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Axel xadolik: Formally, it's not too early. In practice, there are LangCom members who are fairly hostile to any but the most well-developed ConLangs. I managed the process very carefully to get Elefen approved, and at that it wouldn't have happened but that there was a Facebook group with 900 members in it. I'm really afraid that the speaker group for Kotava is too small to be of interest to those members of LangCom for now. What I will probably end up doing is putting this on hold for a while to let it mature, possibly then reject it for the time being, but then let it stay on Incubator under less strict rules. But we'll see. I'm leaving it alone for the moment. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:06, 10 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Thank you @StevenJ81: for this clarification and your impression.
As I said, what is important for me and all kotavusik, it's the content, the encyclopaedic (and linguistic) quality of the articles. There is no urgency to be officially on Wikipedia, Incubator is already very good, if there is not risk of being roughly removed and all the work done would be lost.
In my idea, I'd like to get at least 2500 articles (and many with a real content) before thinking about going through the official step, it might take one year.
The Kotava community is small, it's true, and it is not very buzzing on famous social networks. Since 12 years a public forum exists and works, but also a totally private portal through which many things happen and are driven (just a small skylight, encyclopedia theme: [1] ).
Lingua Franca Nova is a beautiful project, managed and developed intelligently. Its Facebook group may have 960 members, but that does not mean much in the absolute. Since it's a "Latin-roman" language, many people think that it's easy and fancy taking a short interest and peck a little, but few really invest themselves in it. Actually, when I look at the activity on lfn.wp ( [2] ), I see that the big majority of articles are written and inserted by the creator of the language (George Boeree), in the fields of languages or medicine. There are not many other contributors.
For Kotava, her creator Steren Fetcey does not get involved in broadcast actions or on internet. She looks at things from afar and focuses on the translation of works (her last, the translation of the famous Quebec novel "Maria Chapdelaine", which does not even exist in Esperanto translation for instance!). Given the nature of Kotava resolutely aprioristic, learning it requires more willpower and perseverance than for LFN or Interlingua.
I have already succeeded to interest two experienced kotavusik, a specialist in prehistory (Angelalux) and a teacher of literature (Seramikya). If the project goes well, I'll be able to convince others to contribute too, I think.
Regards. --Axel xadolik (talk) 10:23, 11 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Category move

Hi! :) Would you be able - or know someone who is - to use a bot to change the pages in this cat to this cat? My bot doesn't seem to work the way it should, because it doesn't want to log on. --OWTB (talk) 16:44, 21 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Ooswesthoesbes: You should be able to do it with Cat-A-Lot pretty easily. Do you use it? StevenJ81 (talk) 18:38, 8 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
To be honest, I haven't even ever heard of it... --OWTB (talk) 12:35, 9 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Info available at c:Help:Gadget-Cat-a-lot. Very worthwhile. Meantime, I'll take care of this. Can you temporarily flag my account on n:li: as a bot (or flooder), or alternatively, do you care that it's going to bomb your Recent Changes log? StevenJ81 (talk) 14:34, 9 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
I'm not a bureaucrat, so I can't do that. I won't mind you flooding the RC, as it is not going to exceed the 500 changes (category is too small). --OWTB (talk) 14:46, 9 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Done (but please check) StevenJ81 (talk) 15:18, 9 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Yes, that's perfect! Thank you very much :) --OWTB (talk) 16:25, 9 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
I'll see if I can figure out how it works too. --OWTB (talk) 16:30, 9 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

I missed your email address

I missed your email address, please email me your email address here thanks --RAChitrali 07:05, 21 January 2019 (UTC)Reply


Shalom. The pages on Wb/jam and Wt/jam to be deleted are the ones that are not completed and that nobody is going to edit. We are just trying to focus on a few but quality ones. --Katxis (talk) 18:55, 29 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

bqi wiki incubator

Hello Dear StevenJ81
please see the bqi test wiki incubator and it's articles is there any problem to making this wiki.
best wishes.Mogoeilor (talk) 13:00, 3 February 2019 (UTC) Dear StevenJ81Reply
please answer my questions!!!
best regards.Mogoeilor (talk) 11:39, 25 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Apologies for missing your note last month. I've been busy in real life.
@Mogoeilor: Your project is coming along very, very nicely. The pages you have are nicely put together, you have a lot of supporting infrastructure, and you have met or are meeting requirements on activity and interface translation. At this point, you simply need more content. Don't create stubs, create real content pages like the one you have. There is no way that the Language Committee is going to approve a project with only 35 mainspace pages. They will look for something like 350 pages, and preferably more. Be patient, and keep working on it, because you're doing great so far. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:20, 25 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
I will add that I saw you use a different-language Wikipedia as a source on one or two pages. Usually Wikipedia is not considered a reliable source for this purpose. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:00, 25 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
@StevenJ81: what do you mean? ("I will add that I saw you use a different-language Wikipedia as a source on one or two pages. Usually Wikipedia is not considered a reliable source for this purpose".)
please give me an example to fix this problem.
so thank best regards.Mogoeilor (talk) 15:29, 26 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Mogoeilor: See Wp/bqi/آیت الله بورۊگردی, for example, where the only reference seems to be en:Seyyed Hossein Borujerdi. You can incorporate references you find on the English page in your page, but the English Wikipedia page itself cannot be a source. (If I'm not reading this right, and it's a "see also", tell me, and I'll show you how to fix that.) StevenJ81 (talk) 16:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC)Reply


At Incubator:Community Portal#Wp/frs you said It is legitimate to start a test.

Is that really the official LangCom position? A project that got rejected because of inactivity can be re-opened, yes (Category:Incubator:Test wikis/open-but-rejected‎), but a project that already got rejected for fundamental reasons (meta:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia East Frisian Low Saxon) can be too? What's the reason for that? Does that mean any rejected project can re-open a test? Why was the content of Wp/frs deleted after the rejection when re-opening was always an option? --::Slomox:: >< 15:42, 5 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Slomox: Three things:
  1. Mainly, there wasn't any real content in Wp/frs, so we decided that deleting the couple of very nominal pages there would be a cleaner approach.
  2. Yes, the previous request was rejected for fundamental reasons. But there was also very little comment by LangCom at the time. I'd rather let the other person take his shot, then have LangCom (likely) reject the request. Then either (a) his content will be merged into nds wiki, or (b) he will pick up and move somewhere else (like Incubator Plus). The very fact that he is citing pseudo-political arguments there will hurt his chances for approval in the long run.
  3. LangCom does not actually control Incubator. Rules here are easier than rules for a full project approval; in general projects with legitimate language codes are allowed to stay. (In particular, there are a number of ancient/historical language projects in open-but-rejected that are allowed to stay here.) In practice, we still prohibit some tests that will never see the light of day (especially fictional language tests like Klingon or Tolkien languages). But this one probably needs to be allowed to stay for now. Don't worry. I am watching it. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:05, 5 February 2019 (UTC)Reply
Okay, fair enough. Thank you. --::Slomox:: >< 16:10, 5 February 2019 (UTC)Reply


Hi, please revert Unjal's editsBukhariSaeed (talk) 05:18, 9 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

A chart of WP projects in Incubator with number of articles for each

Hello Steven. I created a small personal chart to get a quick idea of the importance of the other WP projects hosted in the incubator. You can find it here: User:Axel_xadolik/Incubator_wikis.

I think that might be interesting in a more general way. The "Number of Articles" column is a simple function that works in real time and is easy to put into a template. Regards. --Axel xadolik (talk) 17:26, 16 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

It's interesting in certain respects, yes. Thank you. I do want to bring your attention to a couple of points you'll need to remember as you look at this.
  1. This chart is only as good as projects are at categorizing all their pages into their root categories (e.g., [[Category:Wp/avk]]) as well as any subcategories, because that function does not count articles that are only in subcategories.
  2. This chart says nothing about article quality; one can have several hundred three-line subs (sub-stubs?), but that doesn't mean that one's project is closer to approval.
  3. In the end, project approvals depend at least as much on participation as on size.
  4. This chart is not going to make it easier for you to overcome LangCom's hesitation on conlangs.
All that said, this is interesting and useful. Thank you. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:17, 19 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

About CSS of test wiki

Can we set up a unique CSS for a test wiki, like MediaWiki:Vector.css, MediaWiki:Common.css, MediaWiki:Mobile.css? Texts in wn/lzh need vertical composition. Davidzdh (talk) 12:13, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Davidzdh: It is possible to do that. However, please see my comment at I:RFTA. I am strongly discouraging you from taking Wn/lzh any further. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:58, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
@StevenJ81: Thank you for reminding and answering me! Davidzdh (talk) 16:12, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
Btw, could you help me to delete these articles? They were built wrongly. Davidzdh (talk) 16:30, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

template:Wn/lzh/亞洲門頂 template:Wn/lzh/北美洲門頂 template:Wn/lzh/南美洲門頂 template:Wn/lzh/大洋洲門頂 template:Wn/lzh/宗教門頂 template:Wn/lzh/寰宇門頂 template:Wn/lzh/政治門頂 template:Wn/lzh/新加坡門頂 template:Wn/lzh/日本門頂 template:Wn/lzh/朝鮮門頂 template:Wn/lzh/格致門頂 template:Wn/lzh/歐洲門頂 template:Wn/lzh/水土門頂 template:Wn/lzh/泉貨門頂 template:Wn/lzh/法律門頂 template:Wn/lzh/澳門門頂 template:Wn/lzh/群學門頂 template:Wn/lzh/臺澎金馬門頂 template:Wn/lzh/藝文門頂 template:Wn/lzh/訃聞門頂 template:Wn/lzh/越南門頂 template:Wn/lzh/身教門頂 template:Wn/lzh/非洲門頂 template:Wn/lzh/韓國門頂 template:Wn/lzh/香港門頂
Done StevenJ81 (talk) 16:35, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Thank you very much!Davidzdh (talk) 01:45, 7 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Azerbaijani Wikinews

Hello dear StevenJ81. There are 500+ pages in the Azerbaijani Wikinews. There are several active users. We want the project to be free. Please help us. Thanks.--Turkmen talk 15:59, 12 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Turkmen: You're definitely coming along. The minimum activity requirement is 3 consecutive months with at least three registered editors making at least ten edits each. You need to reach that target in April before Wn/az is eligible.
  • There are technical issues that have slowed down the process of creating wikis. Depending on whether that is resolved or not, I might even delay until May. That's not your fault, but I don't want to overload the work process queues.
  • Please go to You and your community should make sure that all MediaWiki (most important messages) are translated, and should get the number of untranslated messages in MediaWiki core down to below 1,000. Check in with me again about April 10. Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:11, 12 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Turkmen:, narahat olma. Hamısını yavaş-yavaş həll edərik. --►Cekli829 17:52, 12 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Cekli829: and StevenJ81, thanks--Turkmen talk 18:21, 12 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Khakassia Wikipedia

Привет, Стивен, хочу сделать запрос тест-администратора Wp/kjh, кроме того есть ли возможность на принятие запроса о полноценной wikipedia, для хакасской википедии? Заранее благодарю, (Hi, Steven, I want to make a request to [be?] the test administrator [for] Wp/kjh. Besides, is it possible to accept a request for a full-fledged Wikipedia for Khakassia? Thank you in advance,)--Андрей Саг. (talk) 20:15, 13 march 2019 (UTC)

Привет, @Андрей. You can make a request to be test administrator at this page: I:RFTA.
It would be early to request a full fledged Wikipedia for Khakassia. I will write more tomorrow with details. StevenJ81 (talk) 23:26, 13 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Андрей Саг.: Here is why your test is not ready for approval.
  1. Your test has a lot of pages, but every page I looked at (about 30) was either a stub (see ru:ВП:Stub) or a list (see ru:ВП:С). There is no content up to the standards of an encyclopedia right now.
  2. In order to be approved, a test needs an "active community". The minimum standard for an "active community" is to have at least three registered editors, making at least ten edits each, for at least three consecutive months, and then continuing until approval. See this analysis: Your test has not had even one month with three registered editors making at least ten edits each since 2014. Please find additional people to work with you on the project.
  3. In order to be approved, the community must start to translate the MediaWiki interface into its language. Start by translating the messages on this page, which are the most important MediaWiki interface messages.
StevenJ81 (talk) 17:35, 14 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Changing content model

Please change the content model of the page Wp/khw/Module:Yesno from Wikitext to Scribunto.Adithyak1997 (talk) 14:57, 15 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Adithyak1997: Please compare that page to Module:Wp/khw/Yesno. I know it can get confusing, but on Incubator, templates, modules and categories go in those namespaces, but project and help go in mainspace. If the module already in the module space is the same, we can simply delete the other one. And please let me know what to do about doc pages.
(PS: Best to ask things like this on I:AN. That way, if another administrator gets here before I do, you'll get faster service. I do watch that page.) StevenJ81 (talk) 17:08, 15 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Retired code pages

Do retired code pages make sense and are useful? I can find a use for those pages.

@ You've long liked to add pages like this, and there are still 3–4 there that you created at some point or another.
Personally, I would not get rid of the ones that are there now. (And for the sake of peace, I won't even delete yours.) In general, I think they have value when they announce splits or mergers, at least when there has been an existing project (or test) using one of the involved codes. If we've deleted a material existing project having such a code (like the Moldovan series), then having {{Test wiki}} in place, with the code correctly categorized as "retired" is great.
I'm not especially interested in adding {{Retired code}} on pages where a code has been retired on the basis that the language was spurious. I'd make an exception if a project were already there at the time the code was retired, and we then deleted the project on that basis. (As above, that might actually be {{Test wiki}}, anyway.) But otherwise, at least in my view, a page like that under conditions like that only serves as a possible temptation for people to start vandalizing.
I'm in the middle on pages announcing splits or mergers where we've had no test projects running. Better in that case just to start a test using a valid code and to be done with it. Why even bring up the retired code?
I absolutely do favor making sure that {{Test wiki/validcode}} is up to date with all code retirements.
I hope that answers your question. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:16, 20 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

A small request

When you feel free, please explain to me about what needs to be done on the page Incubator:Maintenance/Misplaced namespaces. Adithyak1997 (talk) 07:57, 17 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Adithyak1997: Thank you for asking. This is a list of pages having misplaced namespaces so that they can be moved. Such pages include:
  1. Templates and modules in mainspace. In other words, the page name is "Wx/xyz/Template:Foo" instead of "Template:Wx/xyz/Foo".
  2. In reverse, project and help pages in those namespaces, but not in mainspace. In other words, the page name was "Help:Wx/xyz/Foo", instead of "Wx/xyz/Help:Foo".
Frankly, I don't know if that was done by automatic tool, or whether someone did it manually, or whether it was done using a toolserver tool and then results were pasted here manually. In any event, there was a list of pages here when I first became sysop here, and I cleaned it up. Periodically, I go in and check for errors like #2 above, because it's easy enough to do: one uses Special:AllPages/Project:W and Special:AllPages/Help:W, and one can easily see the list of offending pages. The errors like #1 above aren't as easy to find. I tend to check them if and only if the project is coming up for approval. And I presume that @MF-Warburg checks both when he's preparing to export a test. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:31, 20 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
@StevenJ81: So you mean that "Template:Wx/xyz/Foo" is the correct one right?
Also, "Wb/lzh/Help:凡例" is wrong one right?Adithyak1997 (talk) 14:50, 20 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
"Template:Wx/xyz/Foo" is right (and so is "Module:Wx/xyz/Foo").
"Wx/xyz/Help:Foo" and "Wx/xyz/Wikipedia:Foo" are right. (So is "Wb/lzh/Help:凡例.)
HELP and PROJECT work opposite from TEMPLATE and MODULE. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:41, 20 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Formating error

@StevenJ81: what is formatting error? how to fix this [3] please help and guide. thanks --RAChitrali 04:50, 20 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Rachitrali: Please do check now. It was an issue that happened when the template was copy pasted from another wiki/test wiki. @StevenJ81: Sorry to interfere in the things posted on your userpage.Adithyak1997 (talk) 15:37, 25 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Adithyak1997: Not a problem. User talk pages are just as public a discussion forum as any other talk pages. (Smile while you read en:WP:TPS.) StevenJ81 (talk) 16:18, 25 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

To keep Wq/mul and to give up my importing right

As Wq/mul show how multilingual quotes may be displayed, but too hard for newbies, I would like to keep it to wait for m:Wikidata/Development/Wikiquote to realize, with no need to expand the test, thus ready to give up my importing right. Thanks.--Jusjih (talk) 02:19, 2 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

Done StevenJ81 (talk) 15:57, 2 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
Thanks again. I wonder how we may get m:Wikidata/Development/Wikiquote going.--Jusjih (talk) 03:00, 21 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

Wp/hyw (Western Armenian)

Thank you very much for creation of this new main space for Western Armenian Wikipedia. Being a pioneering force in starting an incubator area for Western Armenian Wikipedia in January 2018. I am delighted we have reached here 15 months later and Western Armenian Wikipedia was created on 4 April 2019. I am very ready to contribute my best efforts in setting this new project on a firm footing. To highlight the importance of this newborn page, it would be beneficial that in language links in Armenian Wikipedia (, the first language link by preference would always be hyw if such a page exists in hyw, and that in hyw Wikipeda, the first language link that would would show would be the equivalent article in hy (Armenian). As things stand now, these links are treated in alphabetical sequence pushing the hy and hyw links further down Werldwayd (talk) 22:35, 5 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

Khowar Wikipedia

@StevenJ81: thanks for your suggestions, when we copy templates from Urdu wiki like this [Wp/khw/کرم_علی_شاہ] the info box template is not working like Urdu wiki, I think the incubator wiki is not supporting wikidata templates or otherwise, I and other contributors unable to fix those technical templates, therefore I am requesting other experts to fix the issue, now we have @Adithyak1997: who is expert in technical issues and fixing the templates and modules. please fix this template [Wp/khw/کرم_علی_شاہ] thanks --RAChitrali 05:14, 19 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Rachitrali: Just check now. Adithyak1997 (talk) 14:39, 19 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Rachitrali, Adithyak1997: Just to clarify: Incubator now supports Wikidata through arbitrary access. (See d:Wikidata:How to use data on Wikimedia projects.) It does not support direct access or direct links. So every Wikidata call from Incubator must explicitly name the wikidata Q item (or P item) being called. This shouldn't cause a problem if and when Khowar Wikipedia is approved. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:53, 19 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Rachitrali: Actually, I have not used Wikidata very much. I have only added some interlanguage links. I would like to know whether you have found any problem in any of the pages with above problem. If yes, please do specify as I am be able to check if other pages have same problem, in future. Adithyak1997 (talk) 15:00, 19 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

Re: Deletion requests

Moved back to User talk: to keep the discussion in one place. 15:55, 24 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

A doubt relating to prefix

I would like to know whether the template name Wy/ml/ഫലകം:Coord-E valid or not. Note that ഫലകം means Template in English. Adithyak1997 (talk) 18:00, 26 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

It needs to move to Template:Wy/ml/Coord-E. StevenJ81 (talk) 05:40, 28 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

A small doubt of Checkwiki

I have recently seen an edit done from an IP on the page Incubator:Administrators' noticeboard. My first doubt is whether that text is related to some threatening sort of text. Secondly, that IP have done an edit on User:Malik M Ramzan Arain. So I guess that edit might have been done by Malik M Ramzan Arain without logging in. I think the second part of my question can be answered through Checkwiki only. Adithyak1997 (talk) 08:04, 12 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

I can't tell exactly, and there seem to be several different IP's involved. Rather than doing a Checkuser, I simply rolled back the edit on I:AN. I also removed both the IP's edit on that user's page and the user's own previous content, because both were out of scope. Thank you for bringing all this to my attention; I'd be most appreciative if you kept an eye open, as I certainly don't speak Urdu. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:00, 13 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
Frankly speaking, I actually doesn't know Urdu. I actually belong to the state with the nickname 'God's Own Country', Kerala. I only knows two languages namely English and Malayalam. I actually involve in such projects because of the reason that I am interested in maintaining things rather than creation. According to what I remember, I have created just 1 article or two in my past 3 years in Wikipedia. For the last one week, I was not able to edit actively due to poor internet connection in my area. Due to the language issue, what I used to do is that I will go to Google Translate to understand what is meant by each term which was the reason why I thought the text was threatening as stated in the top of this discussion. Adithyak1997 (talk) 18:05, 13 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
Good for you. (But a number of US states think that they're "God's Country", too. ) StevenJ81 (talk) 19:07, 13 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Adding categories to pages

Sorry to disturb you every time. I have recently gone through this page which consists of all the pages containing the prefix Wy/ml. But when I checked this category, it contains only 9 pages. With the help of Catanalysis, it was evident that there are around 230 pages belonging to Wy/ml. So, should all those pages present in Wy/ml be added to this category? Adithyak1997 (talk) 18:05, 16 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

I can't require anyone to do that, but that's what I'd do. Some people don't like to do that because they feel that they are redundantly categorizing pages. (That is, they're putting the page in both the test's root category and in a subcategory of the root category.) But (unique to Incubator) that's the best way to keep track of pages by test.
Do you use Cat-A-Lot? If not, I can do this categorization quite easily and quickly for you (probably tomorrow, though). StevenJ81 (talk) 18:51, 21 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
I haven't used it but is am (see wikt:be#Conjugation) interested in using a new tool. If you can, please wait for a day (i guess for 24 hours). Adithyak1997 (talk) 18:58, 21 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
I'll wait as long as you want. If you've never used the tool, please use it on only a page or two at a time until you are confident you are using it correctly. Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 19:08, 21 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
I will do a trial of 5 edits, after which I will proceed only after getting confirmation from you (same as the procedure for bot edits on wikis). Also, thanks for the correction. Adithyak1997 (talk) 19:12, 21 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
Sorry. I was unable to do it. I have seen option related to images but was unable to do it with the tool. I think if you can, please do it. Adithyak1997 (talk) 14:03, 22 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
Done (Mainspace and templates) Didn't do talk pages, and modules need a /doc subpage for this purpose. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:28, 22 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
Thanks a lot. Adithyak1997 (talk) 15:30, 22 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Test wt/Shy

Hello Steven, is there any news about the independence of the wt/Shy from the incubator? do you contact one of the two specialists of Tacawit that I send you by email?--Reda Kerbouche (talk) 04:30, 22 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Saraiki Wikipedia

Dear, Saraiki Wikipedia is ready and hoped that technical problems had been solved. so kindly approve the Saraiki Wikipedia.Sraiki (talk) 13:57, 26 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Support@Sraiki:Your Language project is eligible, please create more articles and involve more editors thanks-- RAChitrali 06:03, 10 June 2019 (UTC)Reply


See my answer:

--ჯეო (talk) 16:45, 3 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

That was mistake at here:ჯეო (talk) 16:46, 3 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

@StevenJ81: I would like to point out an issue. Please visit this page. I have posted it here since both are referring to the same page. I have seen 4 lines of data in that page that overrides the footer of any wiki page. Adithyak1997 (talk) 13:30, 10 June 2019 (UTC)Reply


1- Main Page/Wunklelɛ is a presentation of the Baoule language, for which I wrote equivalent English and French pages. So I agree to convert Wp/bci/en and Wp/bci/fr into Wp/bci/Wunklelɛ/en and Wp/bci/Wunklelɛ/fr, respectively. From my point of view Main Page/Wunklelɛ is not intended to become the future main page. I will use this for machine translation purposes. But it will be linked on the main page.

2- Instead Wp/bci/Main_Page is the page that would become Baoulé Wikipedia's Main Page/Accueil or Wp/bci/Main Page/Akwaba in Baoule. So, please edit Wp/bci so that its main page link goes directly to ...Akwaba

3. and 4. I got it. For the redirections toward Wp/bci/Wunklelɛ, I am still working on according to my free time, and all things will be done. I stay available for any remark.

Kjeanclaude (talk) 21:46, 19 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

Baoule Wiki Test

OK Steven,

The next time I will go to directly edit your talk page.

And as I explained my current contribution is for Machine Translation purposes. It is a part of a PhD program.

More detail here :

Step by step the interested community will be able to contribute, as I provided useful Baoule translation resources on the Welcome page (The Main Page). So, those who understand the Baoule language could more easily "translate existing pages" or "create new baoule pages". And we expect to not pass too much time in the Incubator.


Jean-Claude KOUASSI.

You've got mail!

Hello, StevenJ81. Check your email—you've got mail!--MCC214 (talk) 06:51, 25 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

@MCC214: I went back and looked at the history of that page. The only things on it were:
  • Oct. 29, 2018: The welcoming bot's standard message, which was then replaced the same day by ...
  • A navigation bar pointing to user pages on different projects. The initial versions of these user page links were pointed to user pages for User:Allthingsgo. But those were also replaced the same day by changing the links to point to user pages for User:Lzhwp.
  • Nov. 13, 2018: You blanked the page.
  • Jan. 11, 2019: You tagged the page for deletion based on cross-wiki abuse. A sysop deleted the page the same day.
That's the whole history. StevenJ81 (talk) 12:59, 28 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
I think this page can restore it (Because this page have version to undo it).--MCC214 (talk) 11:44, 3 July 2019 (UTC)Reply


Hi, I want to start building the Sana'ani project but I have got a small issue. The interface is in English and the text is written from the left to the right. Is there any possible way I can change it to be from the right to the left? Thank you so much for your help.--SharabSalam (talk) 07:47, 6 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Why the interface is in English is because you have it set that way. You can easily set it to (standard) Arabic by clicking where it says "English" up top. (Sana'ani itself is not supported there for the moment. It will be eventually, but don't worry about that point at the moment.)
If that doesn't change the default direction of pages in your project, please let me know. (Actually, I don't think it will, and I'm not sure why the default direction on your pages is LTR right now. But I can't address that today; that will have to wait until next week.) In the meantime, though, if you do the following, you can hack around the problem in the short run:
  • At the top of every new page, type <div class="mw-content-rtl" lang="ar">. At the bottom of each page close off the div with </div>. This will fool the software into thinking the language's page is Arabic.
  • Go to Gadgets and activate the first gadget under Language support and internationalisation. When that gadget is activated, you can choose the directionality of your edit box.
I'll get back to you next week. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:41, 12 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

RE:Creation of user pages

Oh, hi, Steven! G'day!

I'm sorry. I know. No offence meant. I think it was because I tried to contact that user, as many other users I'm trying to reach for coming (back) to help our Sassarese Wikipedia project, well, and then I kind of wanted to collect the Babel information of those users for getting a language overview for our community. Something like that must have been it, simply. Thank you for the hint.

Speaking of Sassarese Wikipedia: Since I have noticed you find it good to have people working on that project, would you be so kind to support our request, just by adding "Support" (within Arguments in favour). I would really appreciate and be very glad.

Anyway, have a great arvo and eve! ^^ Best regards, --Jun Misugi (talk) 14:54, 12 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Actually, I'm not going to do that. And here's why:
  • It's already marked as "eligible". So supporting the possibility is not going to matter.
  • It won't be approvable until the test is far more developed. Again, "supporting" doesn't help that along—only a community working on the project will help that along.
  • At that point, I will probably be the one to decide when you're ready to go in front of LangCom for a project approval. So I need not to be a !voter now.
Good luck! StevenJ81 (talk) 17:34, 12 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Re:Mass deletion request

Hi! Got your message! I'm working on the codes of the testwiki Bicol Central Wiktionary. Those are older set of codes that are not working properly. I made a new set for everything that's why they came in bulk. Apologies for the wrong template codes made.

Have a great day!

-Dang Brazal (olay) 13:32, 16 August 2019 (UTC)Reply