Incubator:Community Portal/Archive/2023

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Screwed up a page, can't get it back

Hi. I tried to change an image at Wp/nch/Kaxtiyatlajtoli and it messed up the templates. Reverted myself but can't get it back. It still looks fine in the page history, but if I copy and paste that version, it doesn't copy faithfully. Presumably something in the incubator encoding, if someone here can figure it out. Kwamikagami (talk) 02:36, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

@Kwamikagami: Perhaps the template you want to use is template:Wp/nhn/Tlajtoli. It's in nhn, but since you're trying to use it in nch, it's blocked by the auto-preHelp with configuring Citoid on our Incubator (Wp/ibb)

Hello, I will like to enable Citoid on our Incubator (Wp/ibb) as explained at- https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Citoid/Enabling_Citoid_on_your_wiki and a copy of Visual Editor Citation tool from the English Wikipedia at- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Visualeditor-cite-tool-definition.json

We need to configure it so that editors working on the wiki can easily add citations without stress.

I've tried configuring it, but I received a message that I didn't have permission to do so. Looking forward to your assistance. Best, Nnadigoodluck (talk) 02:21, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

   Hi Nnadigoodluck! Unfortunately it is not possible to configure this on a per-test wiki basis. Any configuration we add following that guide would apply to the entire Incubator, not a single test wiki. Having different configuration per test wiki is not trivial – I believe it would require some special handling in the Citoid and/or Visual Editor extensions, so that makes it quite difficult unfortunately. But I will keep it in mind, as it would clearly be useful and beneficial for test wikis to be able to use this functionality. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 14:25, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

fix feature; this recognizes your edit as Template:Wp/nch/Wp/nhn/Tlajtoli. Since template:Wp/nhn/Tlajtoli exists in incubator, it can also be used in nch. However, I recommend that you create and use template:Wp/ncn/Tlajtoli because your method misses thr pulled template during the importing process in the future and causes problems. --Sotiale (talk) 02:51, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes, this is correct. It is a feature of the AddPrefix gadget – just like in normal Wikipedias, you can't use templates from one project in a different project. So the solution is to remove all the "Wp/nhn/" prefixes, and (re?)create the template also for the Wp/nch project. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 13:36, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! I moved it to /nhn/ and it displays properly now. Did the same with Wp/nhn/Nauatlajtoli. Don't know if there's any other cleanup I need to do; I'm not familiar with incubator. E.g. they're both in Category:Wp/nch/Tlajtolmej, which should perhaps also be moved but I don't want to mess anything else up. Kwamikagami (talk) 22:22, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Hassaniya's ISO code isn't recognised by Wikimedia.

Hello, I'd like to see Hassaniya's ISO code (mey) beign added to Wikimedia or wherever it's needed, since I can't start any translations without it. Moreover, it also leads to crashes on Wikipedia (when having to add in the Cite templates of English Wikipedia I can't use "mey" for the language data but have to fill it with "Hassaniya Arabic" instead).

Hassaniya is a variant of Arabic spoken by around five million people in Mauritania, Western Sahara, northern Mali/Azawad, southern Morocco, eastern Algeria and communities in Senegal, Spain (Canary Islands and Basque Country) and abroad. Egyptian, Moroccan, Algerian and Tunisian variants are already recognised by Wikimedia and even have their own Wikis, so I'd like to do the same for Hassaniya since I consider it has value on its own (Hassaniya has a distinct oral literature and history independent from Modern Standard Arabic and I'd like to create a Wikipedia/Wikisource/Wiktionary in Hassaniya to promote and encourage the written digital preservation of our heritage through a respected source).

Thank you for reading and have a nice day :) Tidjani Saleh (talk) 01:37, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

For what it's worth, agreed that there is value in mey projects. @Tidjani Saleh:, have you seen m:Language committee/Handbook (requesters) and m:Requests for new languages? If you need help nominating a project, please let me know. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 12:35, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much, that seems just like what I was looking for! Will keep you updated @Koavf :) Tidjani Saleh (talk) 14:20, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

lang-en template

How do I add a lang-en template for the wiki I am working on? --t̕igʷicid syaʔyaʔ - PersusjCP (talk) 04:23, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

@PersusjCP: It looks like you already created it, then requested that it is deleted again. Should it not be deleted? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:02, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

I tried, but I couldn't figure it out and gave up. t̕igʷicid syaʔyaʔ - PersusjCP (talk) 20:53, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Change the font of a test wiki

How do I fix this? The entire Lushootseed wiki, even the interface, is in this ugly serif font. For example: Wp/lut/siʔaɬ. It's really hard to read for me. It's not like this anywhere else on the incubator. t̕igʷicid syaʔyaʔ - PersusjCP (talk) 23:47, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

The default font for a given language can be changed at the wiki level by CSS, but if you want it changed across all WMF wikis that use this language (e.g. if there is also a Wiktionary and a Wikivoyage and you want them all to use the same font), then that would require a ticket at phab:. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:01, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

It's just this test wiki, afaik there are no other projects that use it. How would I change it with CSS? t̕igʷicid syaʔyaʔ - PersusjCP (talk) 00:06, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

You'd need to have templateinterface admin rights and you can change a relevant MediaWiki file (which, to be honest, I can't recall at the moment), but first step is to have those rights. Do you have them? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:11, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

How would I check? I can make and edit templates on the wiki. t̕igʷicid syaʔyaʔ - PersusjCP (talk) 00:14, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

I don't think I do, I just am an autoconfirmed user/user. I don't think anyone on the test wiki does. t̕igʷicid syaʔyaʔ - PersusjCP (talk) 00:23, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

You can see the list of all interface admins here: Special:ListUsers/interface-admin and see your own user rights here: Special:UserRights/PersusjCP. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:24, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Yeah I'm not. Is there any other way to fix it? Maybe I should ask someone who has those rights to fix it for me? t̕igʷicid syaʔyaʔ - PersusjCP (talk) 00:42, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Do that or post a ticket to phab: —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:30, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! t̕igʷicid syaʔyaʔ - PersusjCP (talk) 19:15, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

New version of the AddPrefix gadget

Hello, everyone!

For the past few weeks, I have been working on a replacement of the old AddPrefix gadget that was a bit faulty. The new gadget, which is now enabled by default for everyone, works quite differently.

The new gadget will remove prefixes when you start editing, and it will then add prefixes when you save the page. This will happen for templates, links and categories. This way, editing in the Incubator should be as similar to editing a normal wiki as possible.

It should work in all wikitext modes, including the 2017 wikitext editor ("wikitext in Visual Editor"), and most importantly, on the mobile site. If you notice any problems with it, please report them here, and I will try to fix them as soon as possible. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 09:33, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

This is beautiful! I love the way this new gadget works. Thank you.--Samatics (talk) 13:03, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Truly a happy coincidence that its development was underway when I encountered the previous version's bugs. :) -Vipz (talk) 06:42, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Please exempt redirect pages from being added to the category and also add a list of exempt pages like Wp/enm/Wikipaedia:Sandbox. -🇺🇦Slava🇺🇦Ukraini🇺🇦Heroyam🇺🇦Slava🇺🇦(talk)🇺🇦 12:29, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

@Slava Ukraini Heroyam Slava 123: Redirect pages should now be exempted from categorization. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:23, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

@Jon Harald Søby:, thank you very much! -🇺🇦Slava🇺🇦Ukraini🇺🇦Heroyam🇺🇦Slava🇺🇦(talk)🇺🇦 14:39, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Please exempt categories from being automatically added to the main category. I don't want all categories to automatically become part of [[Category:wp/grc]]. And if possible, make this gadget not mandatory. It does not help me at all. --PastelKos (talk) 09:12, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

@PastelKos:, it can be disabled in Special:Preferences in gadgets tab. -🇺🇦Slava🇺🇦Ukraini🇺🇦Heroyam🇺🇦Slava🇺🇦(talk)🇺🇦 09:33, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

@PastelKos: I have now made it so that only articles are automatically added to the root category. Note, however, that the root category will not exist at all when the wiki is imported to a proper domain, so one should not rely on it for a category tree. It is more of a maintenance category for the Incubator itself. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:23, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

@Jon Harald Søby: Can automatic categorization to the root category be disabled? I prefer having all content categorized into their specific categories. -Vipz (talk) 19:30, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

@Vipz: It is important to many (most?) projects because that's the way number of articles are counted like {{Wp/khw/NUMBEROFARTICLES}}: Count the number of pages in that category. So ideally all content pages for a test wiki should be in the root category. The root category is not carried over when a wiki is imported, so it is really just an Incubator maintenance category of sorts. I am looking into the possibility of adding it automatically in the Wikimedia Incubator extension, however, instead of it having to be added (semi-)manually to each page. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 20:03, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello, how to create a link to an other incubator wiki? Exemple at Wp/rmc/Šerutňi_sera link to Fiňiko kalo čhib (Kaalengo tšimb).--Adehertogh (talk) 13:53, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

You just did it. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:29, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Koavf, take a look on the page Wp/rmc/Šerutňi_sera, the link Fiňiko kalo čhib (Kaalengo tšimb) is red because of the automatic add of the prefix Wp/rmc/ before the prefix Wp/rmf. --Adehertogh (talk) 16:48, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Did you see Help:FAQ#How_to_link_to_prefixed_pages?? Do you have the AddPrefix extension enabled? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:54, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Works without addprefix extension. But if anyone else makes a change on the pages i'll be back...--Adehertogh (talk) 19:09, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

@Adehertogh, Koavf: There was a check for this so that you could link to almost all pages from other test wikis without a prefix being added, but it did not work if you just linked to the info page ("Wp/xyz"). This should be fixed now. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:23, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

@Jon Harald Søby: could you exempt templates? It is crucial to be able to preview templates without having to fix the link everytime you start editing. -Vipz (talk) 18:39, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

@Vipz: How do you mean? The gadget will add the prefix when you click the "preview" or "view changes" buttons as well as "publish", if that's what you mean. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 21:02, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

@Jon Harald Søby: It appears to not be the case when the "Show previews without reloading the page" setting is turned on, which I have. Templates do show if I have that setting turned off, but I prefer otherwise. -Vipz (talk) 21:20, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

@Vipz: I think I have made the gadget work with that feature now, please test. (You may need to do Ctrl+F5 if it is not working right away.) Jon Harald Søby (talk) 23:41, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

@Jon Harald Søby: Yep, works now! Thanks, and good job once again, this is a great tool. -Vipz (talk) 23:43, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Ficou legal a nova versão do gadget que remove prefixos ao editar e adiciona automaticamente ao mostrar a previsão, por exemplo. Assim fica mais fácil traduzir livros da Bíblia nos Wikcionários.

Leonardo José Raimundo (talk) 03:20, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

On the Indonesian Wikinews Main Page, links that started with Wikinews: or Wikiberita: did not get the proper prefixes. Probably, these are reserved words (Wikinews redirected to the English Wikinews). Could we do / Does it worth doing something about this? - Xbspiro (talk) 21:43, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

@Xbspiro You can freely move it. And yes, the right one is "Wikiberita" . Veracious (talk) 02:33, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

@Jon Harald Søby: the gadget has been having the same old issues for a while now (removing prefixes upon review and submit), and not just me, but everyone on the Wy/hbs project. Are you aware why and can it be fixed again? -Vipz (talk) 18:23, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

@Vipz: Not aware of this, no. Could you give me some examples and/or diffs? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 18:38, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

@Jon Harald Søby: Special:Diff/5693585, Special:Diff/5623359, Special:Diff/5690669, Special:Diff/5689426... -Vipz (talk) 18:45, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

@Vipz: Thanks! Will look into fixing it. Generally, dealing with namespaces like and interwiki links (like "meta:") is quite difficult (because there is no sure way in Javascript to know what is a namespace name and what is an interwiki prefix)… I have made some custom exceptions for common terms, and will add Wikivodič to that list so it is fixed for you at least, but it could re-appear for other project names, so I will try to think of a better long-term solution. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 18:50, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

@Vipz: Should be fixed now – you may need to hard refresh (Ctrl+F5 for me, but it varies by OS/browser) for it to work, or just wait up to an hour or so.

@Xbspiro: This should also fix the issue you mention for the Indonesian Wikinews above. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 19:43, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I admit that I should have probably reported this earlier. -Vipz (talk) 19:48, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

@Jon Harald Søby: can you also allow the custom namespace name "Pomoć"? It translates to "Help". -Vipz (talk) 02:12, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

@Vipz: Done Jon Harald Søby (talk) 02:15, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Hey, @Jon Harald Søby, we've got another issue. ^-^' The gadget wrongly adds prefixes to signatures, on talk pages of these "custom namespaces". Noticed it happening today on Talk:Wy/hbs/Wikivodič:Čarobnjak za stvaranje članaka. Thank you so much on quick responses and fixes, your gadget is appreciated! -Vipz (talk) 22:59, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

@Vipz: Oops, that should not have happened, haha. Should be fixed now. Again, thanks for reporting, it's hard to find all these things by myself. 😊 Jon Harald Søby (talk) 00:02, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Jon Harald Søby, the add prefix gadget will correctly remove the prefix of the template: {{Wp/rmc/Graph:Lines}} but does not write it back went recording the edits. --Adehertogh (talk) 12:56, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

@Adehertogh: Are you sure it removes them? It doesn't for me. And it is not supposed to remove or add any prefixes in the template (or module) namespace, because code for templates and modules can be quite complex. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 08:37, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

@Adehertogh: Sorry, I misunderstood you before, but when re-reading the thread now while archiving the Community Portal, I understood what you meant (that when it is transcluded on a page, {{Wp/rmc/Graph:Lines}} doesn't get its prefix added back. I have made a fix for that in the gadget now. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:51, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

About Incubator language section’s font

Is there a way to change font in the whole Incubator’s language section? E.g. I want to change font in every article of Narym Selkup Incubator to Noto Sans (it has wider support of extended cyrillic script). What should I do? Is there a way to change general font or should I do it manually every time in every article? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kaarkemhveel (discussion • contribs) 19:35, 8 January 2023 (UTC).

@Kaarkemhveel, Adding custom font css code to your test project's common.css will work what you want to change. As an example, wp/rki use Noto Sans Myanmar as a default font for their project by using a code in MediaWiki:Wp/rki/Common.css Ninja✮Strikers ^«☎» 16:43, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Oh, thank you, I’ll try it soon! Kaarkemhveel (talk) 11:38, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Should i create this file in MediaWiki? How can i use this code in wp/sel later? Kaarkemhveel (talk) 13:42, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

You can post the code you want to MediaWiki talk:Wp/sel/Common.css, and then notify an admin either here or on Incubator:Administrators' noticeboard, and we can add it to the correct page. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:37, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Okay, another question then: what part from rki/Common.css example is actually necessary for font changing? lines 1-43? Kaarkemhveel (talk) 11:18, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

@Kaarkemhveel: I have added the necessary CSS to MediaWiki:Wp/sel/Common.css now. Note that we are unfortunately not allowed (by policy) to use external web fonts, so we can't load the font for those who don't already have it installed; but with this change, everyone who has the font installed will see the page with Noto Sans. If there are any other back-up fonts that are better to use than the defaults, please let me know, and I can add them as well. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 22:31, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Wow, thank you so much! <3 Kaarkemhveel (talk) 15:24, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

@Jon Harald Søby, Hi again, how can I change headers' font to Noto Sans too or where can I find the documentation about how to do that? Kaarkemhveel (talk) 21:52, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

@Kaarkemhveel: Sorry, I forgot to reply, but I actually made the necessary change. Hopefully everything is OK now. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:49, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jon Harald Søby I see, thank you so muchǃ Kaarkemhveel (talk) 13:12, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Documentation of Template:Test_wiki

The content of Incubator:Policy/Test wiki info page, which documents the usage of Template:Test wiki, should be merged into that template page (or a "/doc" subpage, if those are used on this wiki), since it makes little sense to document a template on a totally different page. - dcljr (talk) 00:37, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

[Time passes…] This would require someone with sufficient edit rights to do it. I can't do it myself. @Jon Harald Søby: pinging you as an editor of both this page and the template in question. Would you agree that a merge and redirect is appropriate here? (Note, BTW, that the template's documentation currently contains the raw wikicode "[[Incubator:Policy/Test wiki info page]]" instead of a usable wikilink, which presumably is what was intended. This should be fixed.) - dcljr (talk) 08:50, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

@Dcljr: I am not too sure how to approach this actually. Incubator:Policy/Test wiki info page is a translatable page, so if we move that to the /doc subpage, the translations wouldn't be easily available for those who need them (the <languages /> tag would apply to the page it is transcluded on, and {{test wiki}} naturally has no translations in that sense.

I created a proper documentation subpage for the template now, with a prominent button to the page in the Incubator namespace. I'm not super happy with that solution, so if you or anyone else have any suggestions for improvements, that would be very welcome. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:27, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Wow… I see that most (nonlocalized) templates here have no documentation at all. That seems… unfortunate. - dcljr (talk) 14:17, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

What code should I use in .css file to change headers’ font?

We have MediaWiki:Wp/sel/Common.css with further code in it:

#mw-content-text { font-family: "Noto Sans";}

It changes overall font, but header remains the same. What should I add? Kaarkemhveel (talk) 15:03, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

If you only want to change the headers, you can add:

h1 {font-family: "Noto Sans";}

h2 {font-family: "Noto Sans";}

h3 {font-family: "Noto Sans";}

h4 {font-family: "Noto Sans";}

h5 {font-family: "Noto Sans";}

h6 {font-family: "Noto Sans";}

There are more elegant solutions and ones that will change all text, but this will accomplish having all levels of headers be in Noto Sans. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:49, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Well, default font doesn't support extended Cyrillic, so I guess would be nice to have all headers in the same font. Or do you mean something different than that? Kaarkemhveel (talk) 08:33, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Navbox doesn't display data

I have a problem to display data on navbox template like this one: {{Wp/rmc/Thema andre Europa}}. Any idea to fix it? --Adehertogh (talk) 15:19, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

@Adehertogh, I made a change in Module:Wp/rmc/Navbox/configuration and now it works! Ninja✮Strikers ^«☎» 07:26, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you Ninja✮Strikers! --Adehertogh (talk) 09:49, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Wp/sjd/Common.css

I created a topic in administration portal, but noone replied. Is it possible to add this file?

https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Wp/sjd/Common.css Kaarkemhveel (talk) 17:30, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

(non-admin comment) Do you want to add it to MediaWiki:Wp/sjd/Common.css not MediaWiki:Wp/sel/Common.css?
If you don't get a response from the interface admins for over a week, try pinging them. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 13:10, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

No, Wp/sjd/Common.css > Wp/sjd/Common.css. Kildin Sámi test wiki has the same problem. Also would be cool to add this to sel wiki too. And thanks for a great idea about pinging @Jon Harald Søby Kaarkemhveel (talk) 17:26, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

@Kaarkemhveel: Done for both test wikis. 👍 Jon Harald Søby (talk) 15:31, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Unable to create Wp/cnr/ page

Hello!

I'm trying to add more pages to Montenegrin Wikipedia, but I'm getting an error: "You are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code..." (screenshot added)

Montenegrin language has a valid ISO 639-3 code, check here or here. Also, there are already 1,968 articles with wp/cnr prefix.

I've been able to edit existing pages, but not to add a new one.

On the cnr talk page, I can see other users were unable to create new pages, this has been happening for at least a year.

I already asked the same thing on the Administrators' noticeboard (on 4. Feb) but I got no answer.

Can you please help or point me to someone who can?

Thanks! Millodarka (talk)

PS https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T330029

This is not a bug, it is caused by the abuse filter. You should request a filter modification on the Administrators' noticeboard. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 12:25, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Oops. You have already requested. If so, let's wait for the administrator's response. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 12:28, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Moving the kfb work to nit iso code- for Kolami wikipedia

Hello,

Kolami wikipedia is started about months ago and we are working on content generation. We see there is a need to change the url from wp/kfb to wp/nit as the southeastern Kolami has iso code nit.

Link to the southeastern Kolami wikipedia [1]

Thank you Nskjnv (talk) 07:27, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Another comment: kfb is written in the Devanagari script, and nit is written in the Telugu script. All the content in this Incubator is in the Telugu script, so the move request makes sense to me. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 08:08, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

@Nskjnv, Amire80: I have moved the test wiki to the correct code now. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 09:46, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Creating pages with existing wiki prefix?

This question is highly hypothetical, but I noticed that when you try to create a page such as Wp/en/Main Page, the error message MediaWiki:Wminc-error-wiki-exists is displayed, but doesn't state that administrators can create it. Can administrators create such pages, or is it blocked by the system for everyone? Cmnpt (talk) 02:36, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't know for sure, but looking at the source code, it looks like it can be edited by users with editinterface rights. Sysop and interface-admin have an editinterface in the incubator. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 05:00, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Admins cannot edit these pages. --MF-W {a, b} 20:37, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Importing wiki from Miraheze

Hello. I'd like to ask one thing. Is there some way to import a wiki from Miraheze into a test wiki on Incubator? If so, what kind of changes would need to be done before requesting such an import? Is it possible to also import user accounts or do the previous contributors to such wiki have to register on Wikimedia sites if they didn't do it yet?

This is the reason why I'm asking this question: There's a currently unofficial Interslavic language version of Wikipedia that is hosted on Miraheze (https://isv.miraheze.org/). The reason why is that the ISO 639-3 code for Interslavic (isv) is still not approved by the ISL international organization (still pending review since 2019). But I am quite optimistic and I think that it could be reviewed and approved soon. It is proposed as an artificially constructed macro-language, and there is very good reasoning why it would be a good idea to approve this language. Being a native Slavic speaker (my mother tongue is Czech), I can understand Interslavic without any obstructions. It turns out it is actually really understood by all Slavic nations. If that is approved, a test wiki could be under Wp/isv. In case of an import from Miraheze, the wiki would first have to be exported. I suppose there would have to be some necessary changes done to it, like moving pages into the test wiki subpages, and of course changing the project pages namespace so it fits the target project name (in this case Wikipedia, which may be called Vikipedija in Interslavic). After necessary changes, it should be possible to request an import, and link to the database export for importer to download. I am not the owner of the Interslavic wiki hosted on Miraheze, and nor am I asking on behalf of the owner. I ask as I am genuinely curious about it, and may actually relay any information you provide me here to the community. — Polda18 (talk • contribs) 13:56, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

In short, yes, as you can export pages from MediaWiki wikis and then import them to others. It may be a little cumbersome, there may be licensing issues, etc., but it can be done on a technical level. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:57, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Cool. Then it should be possible. Interslavic wiki uses compatible license (I even guess the same one), so it should be possible in legal terms as well. The only thing that might be problematic is renaming every page and replacing all of the internal wikilinks with renamed versions, so it can be imported into the test wiki. Or I guess importers have a tool for this? Anyway, thank you for your reply. — Polda18 (talk • contribs) 06:38, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Oh, and about the users: I suppose previous contributors would need to register again on Wikimedia sites if they didn't yet in order to continue contributing (well, technically they could still contribute anonymously, but it's better to have an account), is that correct? — Polda18 (talk • contribs) 06:59, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Importers would be able to do that and admins, for sure. It would not be possible for standard editors. Re: attribution, users would not have to have an account here (tho, of course, that's nice and especially so if their account names are the same): the edit histories will have attribution for whoever originally edited it on Miraheze. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:54, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

That's neat. Thank you. ☺ — Polda18 (talk • contribs) 10:26, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

We can technically import the wiki here, that should be no problem. However, I would wait a while before doing so. At the moment the language is not eligible at all (due to not having an ISO 639-3 code), and even when it does, it is still not automatically eligible; the most relevant portion of the m:Language proposal policy is elegibility point #4.

Besides, we (the language committee) have in rare occasions accepted new wikis without them actually having been in the Incubator; the most recent example is the Western Armenian Wikipedia, which was started as a project within the Armenian Wikipedia. So since Interslavic already has this existing wiki on Miraheze, I think it would be better and easier for its community to stay there rather than migrating to the Wikimedia Incubator. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 10:50, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

I agree. I'm not however trying to agitate on behalf of the community, I'm just a messenger at this point. It's not my idea to migrate to Wikimedia, that was expressed by multiple people within the community as well. Plus I've already read the proposal policy, and the only thing that doesn't meet the requirements is the lack of the valid ISO code. Interslavic is used outside of online community, it's actually used in hotels with a high traction of Slavic tourists, and it does have literature outside of wiki space. And it's growing. The only thing that currently is missing is the valid ISO code. That's the only thing that prevents the community to create an official language version of Wikipedia. And about the import, it's around 2000 pages in total to be imported at this point, so I'm not sure if that's the scale that would allow the wiki to be imported, but I've seen a language proposal for Toki Pona Wikipedia, and they also have an existing wiki on an external wikifarm. They do have a valid ISO code tho. — Polda18 (talk • contribs) 14:41, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Just to provide a link: m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Toki Pona 2 — Polda18 (talk • contribs) 14:43, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Can I set multiple languages for multiple wikis I want to contribute to?

Hello. I mainly edit Czech Wikivoyage now, but it is possible that in the future I might actually contribute to an Interslavic Wikipedia (that doesn't exist yet, see above). It's a completely different language, but is it possible to actually set up multiple languages to contribute to? If so, how do I do that? Do I separate them by comma, or by a space? — Polda18 (talk • contribs) 14:07, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Doesn't seem so. It looks like I'll have to set a default wiki now, until there might be a possibility to save multiple. — Polda18 (talk • contribs) 14:11, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

You can only select one wiki as your test wiki, but that doesn't stop you from contributing to test wikis in other languages. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 08:18, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I discovered that. Thank you anyway, for confirming. My main language is Czech, but I'm going to start learn Interslavic, so I can contribute to the Interslavic Wikipedia in the future, and contribute to the community. — Polda18 (talk • contribs) 08:37, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

How do I get started on a proposal?

I want to attempt to make a Proto Indo European Wikipedia. I believe there have been many failed attempts at this, and I'm not sure why they failed. I don't think I will necessarily be that much more successful but I want to try making some articles to start. How can I do that?Immanuelle (talk) 14:49, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure if Proto Indo European is a valid language. It sounds like a proto-language, which generally isn't allowed to have its own language version of Wikipedia or any other WM project. Proto-languages also are not eligible for a valid ISO code, which is one of the reasons why they can't be accepted. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is it a proto-language? I guess you might want to check Meta for the details. — Polda18 (talk • contribs) 18:42, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

@Polda18 yeah it's a proto language Immanuelle (talk) 19:13, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Then it's not allowed. Sorry. — Polda18 (talk • contribs) 19:37, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Licensing issue

The General disclaimer should be updated: we are past licensing under GFDL only. (In addition, Wikinews projects do not use GFDL or CC-BY-SA, but CC-BY only.) - Xbspiro (talk) 07:32, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

I came here to say essentially the same thing about Incubator:Copyrights. All of our project pages that talk about copyright or licensing need to be reviewed and updated, as necessary, to reflect current reality. - dcljr (talk) 02:42, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Wikivoyage tests aren't using GFDL either... Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:46, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Should Wb/ak be splitted or not?

After the decision of closure of ak.wikipedia, there's still one test project under ak, the Akan Wikibooks. I guess that this project meets same problem the PCP page mentioned, likely there are pages written in Twi and/or Fante, so far this project looks like another thing should be splitted, any inputs on this? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:10, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226: Thanks for flagging this! I suspect it should all be moved to Wb/tw, but will check with some Twi speakers first. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 09:59, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

@Amoaniwaa: fyi. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:48, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

I checked with two native Twi speakers, and both confirmed that all the content was in Twi, so I moved all the pages and made the info page a redirect. I also made a gadget (hidden and enabled by default) that automatically redirects all ak test wikis to tw (and also Wy/sh to Wy/hbs, @Zblace et al). Jon Harald Søby (talk) 01:47, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Translating

How to translate a created wiki article to a test wiki? MRidhaAJ (talk) 07:46, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Reopening Wikibooks in Interlingue

Hi, there has been a new voting regarding the Interlingue Wikibooks project and there is a community that would like to work on it, would it be possible for some administrator to reopen it, please? --Caro de Segeda (talk) 10:15, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

I'd like to create a "simple Japanese Wikipedia"......but I'm not sure how to do it.

I am a Japanese speaker, but I found it a bit esoteric and wanted to create a project like a simple English Wikipedia. I'm not going to go into the details here, but I tried to create a wiki in the manual. However, I got an error saying "You are trying to create a page with an incorrect title. I know that there are cases where a simple French Wikipedia has been approved as an "eligible" project, so I would appreciate it if someone could help me out. Thanks.--Kouichi Fan (talk) 21:33, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

See m:LangCom for our current requirements. Plainly put, a simple project would not be accepted today. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:44, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

You're probably more likely to get the Japanese Wikipedia community to accept that kind of content on their wiki (e.g., a new namespace or subpages in the main namespace, or whatever). And I'm not syaing it's likely that they will accept it, just that it's less unlikely than getting a whole new wiki. Another possibility would be to start a wikibook along those lines in the Japanese Wikibooks. Not sure what the conventions are over there, as far as what would and wouldn't be allowed. In any case, you can ask about this on one or both of those wikis and see what people say. - dcljr (talk) 22:46, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Lenguas mayas

Con un número considerable de hablantes de estas lenguas, no veo la razón para que no tengan su propia wikipedia como si lo tienen el quechua, guaraní, aymara, nahuatl, etc. Propongo si podrían crear esta wikipedia teniendo como base el quiché y el kekquichel (Guatemala) y el Yucateco (Mexico). — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2607:fb91:16b7:437b:ac39:5f77:4fbb:9d45 (discussion • contribs).

Claro, hay Wikipedias en Aymara y Nahuatl (por ejemplo), y hay versiones aqui en Nahuatl classical, central huasteca, central, Pipil, y Orizaba. Si quieres hacer mas proyectos en idiomas indigenos de las Americas, mire: m:Langcom/es. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:01, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Request protection for all landing pages

I just reverted some vandalism that had been up at Wp/nlv for a year and a half (!). I think these overview pages for projects should have at least indefinite protection that restricts edits to autoconfirmed users. There's probably no need to edit these pages at all, but certainly no need for IPs to come along and mangle them for years. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:03, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

It would be a bit tedious (and, I think, also exaggerated) to go and protect all info pages. But maybe we can have an abusefilter that at least logs all edits to them, to keep an easier overview. --MF-W {a, b} 21:21, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

FWIW, I think I agree with Justin on this one. Can page protection not be done with a bot? Alternatively, perhaps an admin who can see which of those pages are not currently "watched" would be willing to "watch" them (but I suppose that might be even more tedious to accomplish). - dcljr (talk) 10:14, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

In order to prevent destruction of not only existing info pages but also info pages that will be created in the future, I think it is better to disallow or warn by abuse-filter rather than protecting them one by one. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 10:25, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Just so long as established users can still make minor corrections when necessary… - dcljr (talk) 16:25, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

We can set the abuse-filter to be editable by autoconfirmed users. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 16:28, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

However, this filter is not intended for serious vandalism (like Copyvio), so tagging alone might be enough. After a while, we will review the tagged edits and if those are mostly non-constructive edits, we will be able to promote the filter action from tagging to disallow. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 16:38, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

For the start I have created Special:AbuseFilter/33 to log info-page edits. --MF-W {a, b} 10:36, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Global ban for Leonardo José Raimundo

In accordance with the global ban policy, I am notifying you that I have started this global ban request. I welcome your participation there if you're interested. Best regards, Elton (talk) 12:44, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Elton, quem você pensa que é para me banir globalmente? Eu sou evangélico e tenho o direito de criar verbetes com livros da Bíblia no idioma que eu quiser. Você e todos os administradores que estão contra mim são muito autoritários, cheios de regras. Já que eu serei banido globalmente, falarei poucas e boas com os projetos Wikimedia: estou na minha casa e quem faz as regras sou eu. Lembre-se que vocês da Fundação Wikimedia estão mexendo com um ungido de Deus. Quem mexe comigo está mexendo com Deus. Se é porque houve excesso de gratidão, vá se lascar! Quem manda na minha casa sou eu. Vocês não têm o direito de me banir globalmente. Por favor, elimine minha discussão de banimento global que eu quero continuar criando verbetes com livros da Bíblia. Leonardo José Raimundo (talk) 19:26, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

@Leonardo José Raimundo: if you want to defend your case, I recommend that you use this page instead. It's read by way more people, and the voting and final assessment is done there. Steinbach (talk) 21:10, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

O problema é que o meu bloqueio no Meta-Wiki só expira depois de amanhã. Portanto, não posso me defender lá. Eu estou esperando terminar o meu bloqueio para me defender aonde você colocou o link, e então traduzirei a discussão que estou escrevendo aqui para o inglês através do Google Tradutor. Leonardo José Raimundo (talk) 23:42, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Steinbach, can I copy-paste their comments to that Meta page in case not all voters know the Incubator exists? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:32, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Margarita Lissette Arévalo Martínez (talk) 16:29, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

@Koavf: I don't think this is in Tagalog. In any case, almost the same text was placed on this person's userpage shortly before they posted here, and then it was posted to Wp/ppl/Akulwaka, Paleka wan Texikal yey techanchin maya se iyulu. This appears to be an attempt at writing an article, which presumably has now found its proper home elsewhere. I would say this entire section can be deleted. - dcljr (talk) 04:10, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Ah, neat. Well, I'll leave it up to someone else's judgement if it should be stricken entirely or archived. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:12, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

How to see most recent edits

How to see the most recent edits in test wikis, regardless of the distance from today. I want to find to which page the most recent edit in the Skolt Sami test wiki, but recent changes don't show it because is was made more than 30 days ago. Can you help? --40bus (talk) 15:05, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

@40bus: Perhaps this might be helpful. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 15:12, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

@Syunsyunminmin: Oh, excellent, I was not aware of that feature of Special:Search. Thanks!

@40bus: In addition to that, you can also use the "Check test wiki activity" link found on the wiki's info page to see who has edited that test wiki when, and follow the links to those user's user pages and then check those users' contributions (Special:Contributions/username) to see their latest edits. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 21:28, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

How to make templates

Hi!

I am currently doing projects for Betawi Wikipedia. I tried to make a template page, e.g., Instrument infobox. I copied to a page with a prefix Template, and then I copied this

But, it shows only like that, and even in a preview, it appears only like that, not the box. What should I do?

Besides, what are the templates I should make for our incubating language? Thanks. Bangrapip (talk) 09:56, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

@Bangrapip: Hi and welcome!

The reason it just shows up as a red link is because that template doesn't exist yet for the Betawi Wikipedia; it would be located at Template:Wp/bew/Infobox instrument. However, adding infobox templates can be very difficult (especially if you try to copy them from a large language like English). For a project that is just starting, like the Betawi Wikipedia, I would instead recommend that you use the Databox template. We have detailed instructions for how to add that and use it in your wiki here: Incubator:Wikidata/Databox. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:40, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer. I'll try to learn the link.

By the way, what makes it difficult to copy template from a large language to a new language? I mean, what does a new page need to be in order to be able to take the templates from such a large language? What are the requirements?

Thank you. Bangrapip (talk) 12:42, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

The problem is that one template in big language Wikipedias is not usually just one template. It is one template which uses several other templates, and each of those templates in turn can use several other templates, as well as modules. To use the concrete example of en:Template:Infobox instrument, you would actually have to import ten different templates/modules to use that one template – and that's a mild example. Another example, en:Template:Infobox officeholder (used for politicians), would require you to import approximately 110 different templates and modules! And many templates also add categories automatically depending on lots of factors; for the example I checked just now, that one "infobox officeholder" template in the English Wikipedia automitacally added 67 different categories. So importing it is really not feasible for test wikis in the Incubator. We really really need global templates … Jon Harald Søby (talk) 18:37, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Maybe it is also the problem why some templates won't appear in the preview mode. Perhaps some other modules and templates are missing. Thanks! Bangrapip (talk) 22:45, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Anyway, do you have a lists of important modules and templates that should be installed on our wiki? I am going to try to build it step-by-step. Thanks a lot for assisting us! Bangrapip (talk) 22:50, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi!

I've tried to make a Module:Databox. However, the result doesn't seem good as Module:Wp/bew/Databox. Probably, something's missing. Bangrapip (talk) 14:48, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Something went wrong because of the page move, but I have fixed that now. 👍 Jon Harald Søby (talk) 18:37, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! Bangrapip (talk) 22:42, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Anyways, in Betawi Wikipedia, the prefix are shown in English and in Indonesian Wikipedia it's in Indonesian. Is there any way to translate or to move this prefixes into Betawi? Thanks a lot. Bangrapip (talk) 22:57, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi! Sorry for asking too much, since I am trying to learn many new things.

I tried to make Template:Databox also as in Template:Wp/bew/Databox. It says "Script error: No such module "Databox"." Something seem doesn't work. Thanks. Bangrapip (talk) 23:44, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi. fixed. Note the prefix. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 05:58, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! Bangrapip (talk) 06:09, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia tamazight (wp/zgh/

Hi, we have been working on wikipedia tamazight (wp/zgh) for a long time and I would like to know the status of this project, can it be approved soon --Lhoussine AIT TAYFST (talk) 13:47, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

@Lhoussine AIT TAYFST: Hi! We mainly look at these statistics to determine whether a wiki is active enough. I usually suggest approval after there have been around 3–4 months of consecutive activity from at least 4–5 users. So I would say that if you keep the current activity up, we can start the approval process in 1–2 months. Keep up the good work! Jon Harald Søby (talk) 07:35, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you @Jon Harald Søby for your prompt response, It's good news --Lhoussine AIT TAYFST (talk) 14:17, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Miraheze down the tubes -- what about the things that were moved there?

On June 15, Miraheze's board made an announcement that the site will be shutting down in August (Aug 31 is the last day they will be up). I notice that some wikis from the Incubator were moved to Miraheze (for example Wp/enm, and presumably everything with {{MovedtoIncPlus2}} on it. What is the strat on this? JPxG (talk) 06:36, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

First, it appears that they may not be disappearing--who knows? Secondly, we cannot control their content or policies. So if that site disappears and the content is gone, it's not obvious that we should absorb its content and community: it was moved there for a reason. For those who want to continue working on those projects and are concerned about the site disappearing, I recommend trying to migrate to Wikia, which I don't think will disappear soon. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:27, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

The problem is that for Fandom (Wikia later renamed to this name), is their Special:Import still working? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 05:11, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Near as I can tell. I'm an admin on a wiki there and Special:Import at least displays, tho I haven't tried uploading anything. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 12:03, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

@Koavf Another problem that I don't trust Fandom is based on Minecraft department (sic?), Per PCGames^N, there are concerns about extra advertisements unrelated to community, and some ads look like auto-inserted via wikitexts, too-shiny yellow navigation bars and pop-ups, anonymous users can't view history of files, can't download original files instead of thumbnails, and lower-and-lower bandwiths when editing, etc. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:09, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226: See also https://kotaku.com/mcdonalds-grimace-wiki-ad-happy-meal-fandom-history-1850552640 —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:27, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

{|class="mobile-only" is not working

On the page Template:Wn/bn/Main page header/খেলাঘর, I am currently testing some new changes for the main page header of Bengali Wikinews. However, I have encountered an issue with the code. Specifically, the "wikitable" class "mobile-only" (line 17) is not functioning as intended. This means that even in desktop view, the mobile-only part is still visible. I need assistance in figuring out how to prevent the mobile version from appearing on desktop or finding an alternative solution. Need help. Asked42 (talk) 16:29, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Hmm. What was the reference for the "mobile-only" class? Syunsyunminmin (talk) 17:01, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

If there is no class corresponding to "mobile-only" in MediaWiki, I think that creating a code like this and loading it will be an alternative. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 17:24, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

I applied the CSS code you suggested, and it works perfectly. Thank you very much, Syunsyunminmin! -- Asked42 (talk) 18:04, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

how about poems? "Wikipoems"?

is there a wiki project about poems huh? i believe we can work this out. OR.... is wikisource is good work for poems? Modern primat (talk) 11:22, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Previously published, notable poems with an appropriate license: Wikisource. Newly-composed poetry that is worked on collaboratively: not in any WMF projects. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 12:02, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

" Script error: No such module" problem.

Hello currently, i'm facing a 'missing module' problem like at here despite already being created for a long time. Did i miss something? Thank you. Veracious (talk) 04:25, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

The solution to redirect Module:Wy/id/Linkphone to Module:Wy/id/LinkPhone maybe won't work because their data models are different: one is just standard wikitext, just like this page and the other is marked as Scribunto module. If you change the data model, that may fix it. If you delete the wikitext one and move the Scribunto model to it, that may also fix it. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:21, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

@Koavf Hmm, ok. How to change the data model? Veracious (talk) 06:52, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

If you are an admin, you can go to the page, view "Page information", and then change "Page content model". If you are not, then you can't. At the very least, you can copy/paste so that the two names have the same content, but that is a stopgap fix. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:55, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Hmm, i've overwrite the redirect just now. Thank you for the help. ^_^ Veracious (talk) 07:03, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Sama-sama. :3 —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:08, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

After renaming the module you need to fix the loading like this. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 07:03, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

@Syunsyunminmin Thank you for the additional fix. ^_^ Veracious (talk) 07:27, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

No problem. :) Syunsyunminmin (talk) 07:29, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

User:Tyulif

User Tyulif has made many edits here and has changed the names of some articles. That user has been blocked in many Wikipedia language versions for transferring articles under the wrong names. These edits need some closer inspection. Kruusamägi (talk) 19:04, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Many? I only saw two temporary blocking of this user on Estonian and Guarani Wikipedias, the matter would be true however. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:10, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

The function "Convert" does not exist.

Hello, currently i'm facing a 'Convert not exist' problem like at here, but it seems like convert is a function rather than a template or module... Is there any way to get around this error? Thanks. Veracious (talk) 10:15, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Done - See Special:Diff/6030292. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 10:25, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

@Syunsyunminmin So it was a problem with capitalization.. again?😅 Thank you for the help :) Veracious (talk) 04:55, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

wp/zgh

I want to ask about the project of standard Moroccan Tamazight wp/zgh, I don't know if we can see it approuved this month ? --Lhoussine AIT TAYFST (talk) 19:44, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

This project just hosts the material. To get a new language edition of a project approved, see m:Language committee. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:45, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks @Koavf for the quick answer. I don't understand exactly what we need to do to get a site for the new version, can you explain more? --Lhoussine AIT TAYFST (talk) 11:19, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Per that page, "If you have any questions (for example about the possible requesting of a new language version), please direct these to the talk page or directly to any member". That is, the best place to get an answer is at m:Talk:Language committee. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 14:09, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you @Koavf --Lhoussine AIT TAYFST (talk) 14:42, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Template for Magahi Wikipedia

Hello! Can anyone tell how do I write template for infoboxes for Magahi Wikipedia? Do I have to write the modules and all the codes myself or there are any shortcuts? ऐक्टिवेटेड् (talk) 19:26, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

@ऐक्टिवेटेड् , use English or Hindi wikipedia module pages and copy them to your test wiki.

Moshtank (talk) 19:22, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Delete Request

Hi. Could anyone help delete the unused pages (the green hyperlinks) in this test wiki? Thank you. Mbee-wiki (talk) 09:57, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

These are redirects, so they don't necessarily need to be deleted. But you can make deletion requests using {{delete}}. --MF-W {a, b} 12:50, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation. Mbee-wiki (talk) 03:11, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Sombody fix the wrongs of بیتکوین

Sombody help me and fix Wp/bcc/بیتکوین I tries to fix but i cant.

Bràh Balòc (talk) 03:58, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

@Bràh Balòc I trying to fix.

Moshtank (talk) 19:23, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks

Bràh Balòc (talk) 18:17, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Please revdel

Both text and edit summary: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wp/krl/Adolf_Hitler&curid=3204034&diff=6075580&oldid=6073132 —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:37, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Done Syunsyunminmin (talk) 07:42, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

ありがとう. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:58, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Requests for starting a test concern

I requested a test to be started at Incubator:Requests for starting a test. I apologise if I sound impatient, but is there a typical amount of time one must wait to receive a reply? I made the request a week ago. Thank you very much. CROIX (talk) 16:17, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Sorry for the wait! I answered. --MF-W {a, b} 07:12, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

BOT process

We have collected few thousands of words for Tulu Wiktionary. and planning to upload it in Tulu wiktionary using my BOT account User:NeechalBOT with community approval. We have discussed and tested with few words. This is just to know if there any process to obtain permission before executing the batch of page creation? or is that okay to execute the batch with only community approval?-Neechalkaran (talk) 16:48, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello. Bots should be approved on I:A. --MF-W {a, b} 14:16, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Protect an article

Dear language committee, we have a lot of vandalism on the article wp/zgh/ⵍⵎⵖⵔⵉⴱ, so, we want to protect it from new users. I will be thankful if someone could help --Lhoussine AIT TAYFST (talk) 22:38, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

When has this article last been vandalised? --MF-W {a, b} 14:17, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi @MF-Warburg, thank about your prompt response. It was a lot of vandalism not just one, and a lot of fault information and changes of the title --Lhoussine AIT TAYFST (talk) 22:09, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Please point to specific instances. I can't recognize any. --MF-W {a, b} 23:23, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Topics https://ainu.ninjal.ac.jp/topic/dictionary/jp/

1891 kambi an ak ne wa Siisam itak fusko kanji orta Ainu Roma nu-ye-p ne Ku=ne nei kambi oruspe ne-ws no 金kana澤Ezawa庄sho三za郎buro 著sha『アイヌ語go會kai話wa字ji典ten』1898 topics 2015 English page kor an

Ainu itak uko iso itak a-uwetore kanpi sos

Kanazawa Shozaburo Chinpo qotora kewtum okere kur akademica an wa Ainu tak ani upush kanpi isam Ku=ne wa 1990 tani 2023 Ainu itak an-i upush Ainu 9,000 word index kampi kar kar wa inkar ramma kanna NINJAL Topic wa kampi compare old new Bugaeva kewtum okere kur London kar kane fund depleted

my appeal please help revive these books Hoshiki no pon kampi Kanazawa kampi sos Hoshqino (talk) 10:51, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Marker template not working properly

Hello, i got a problem with the listing marker. The marker didn't appear at the dynamic map like at here. It supposed to be like this instead.

Is Kartographer extension not working properly in Incubator? Thanks. Veracious (talk) 03:28, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Restore Wp/ada

Hi,

Can anyone please restore Wp/ada and Wp/ada/Main Page? A native speaker contacted me and asked to work on it, and it's easier to restore an old test than to start a new one. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 03:24, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Wp/ada has minimal template history. Also, Wp/ada/Main Page is written in English. I think it would be better to create a new one. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 04:36, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Enable Code

Hi, I want to ask, is it not possible to enable the code crh-ro like be-tarask (make possible for a test wiki)? Because Dobrujan Tatar has differences from standard Crimean Tatar. Also the Crimean Tatar Wikipedia is allowed only in the Crimean standard version. Zolgoyo (talk) 14:28, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Template:Welcome-toolbox and MediaWiki:sidebar-sandbox

(I'd post it on Template talk:Welcome-toolbox, but I can't create it. See phab:T351859.)

moved. --MF-W {a, b} 15:35, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

This person has distorted Vietnamese politics.

User:2402:9D80:271:9A7E:C36F:F008:CAB2:9608 Request to ban and delete all posts created by this member due to political distortion of Vietnam. LĐK (talk) 08:52, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

The IP has last edited in October, a block now would not achieve anything. --MF-W {a, b} 08:59, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

@MF-Warburg, currently viwikinews has 82 articles distorted by IP, should they be deleted? AsaHiguitaMizu (talk) 10:58, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Can they be rewritten? --MF-W {a, b} 00:39, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

@MF-Warburg In my opinion, no because the content is distorted. AsaHiguitaMizu (talk) 01:53, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Problems on labeling ISO 639-3 codes with {{Different code/project}}

Hi, I tried to add the template into a ISO 639-3 code which has a valid ISO 639-1 code few days ago but it was blocked by Abuse filter 31 (see here). Is it possible to add an exception for adding {{Different code/project}} & {{Different code/test}} on the info pages in order to let the others know the correct code of the project? 132.234.228.152 03:51, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

But zho is a macrolanguage code for Chinese. Why would you use this 1.) at all or 2.) instead of zh? What am I missing here? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:56, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

There is already an wikt:zh: (see Wt/zh) and there is the same label on Wp/zho. Adding the template can let the others know the zho code is actually zh. 132.234.229.48 04:04, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Ah, gotcha. Weird, this must be a new filter or something, as Wp/zho was created by a user without advanced permissions. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:21, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

*Note that I was only able to make Wt/zho with a hack. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:23, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Adding map in template page

How to add map in template page?

Thanks. Ibne maryam (talk) 16:25, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Find a way to limit Incubator:Featured wikis entries

Really, I'm not sure whether this is a good place to ask about concerns about this Incubator: namespace page that is a part of Incubator's mainpage itself.

For recent one year (maybe), some users (e.g. @Пан Хаунд, NikosLikomitros, Es Krim 5 juta Rasa:) "diligently" added too many entries to this page, lead it and Incubator Main Page explosively growthed. I don't know why such additions are benefit for us, this already break the normal formattion of main page. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:00, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226. Hello. You could see that after your warning in August I didn't add wikis to the table if it had already contained of 10 Wikipedias.

I also think that if the rule exists, we don't have to violate it.Пан Хаунд (talk) 06:34, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Are all the wikis listed actually active? Feel free to remove those who aren't. --MF-W {a, b} 09:10, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

That seems not easily work-able, even I removed some, there are still some other users diligently re-add them just based on their judges. Currently we consider projects that have at least 3 active users (neither bots, nor anonymous, and perhaps nor socks) in recent months, include this month (just by checking catanalysis tool) are "active projects waiting for approval (sic)". TBH, this looks like too very easy to satisfy to be useful, so I wonder that should the requirement for approval-able projects be better improved? So activities of these projects can be more convincing to everyone, to believe that they shall be approved, rather than questionable activities. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:01, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226 Thank you for informing me on the discussion. I haven't added any wikis apart from Karakalpak this year; in the contrary one month ago I removed Adja Wikipedia which was inactive. I think that the rule should be that the project is active for two to three months in order to add it there. I haven't contributed in the explosive growth, but I have removed a few wikis, particularly the approved ones. NikosLikomitros (talk) 14:02, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

I totally agree with activity for at least 3 months, and should better be persistence activities. But stuck on 3 users may still lead negative interests for such activities, shouldn't this be upgraded to be 5 users? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 15:07, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello. I only added Central Dusun Wikipedia based on the table of wikis highlighted that showed active status. I work with the community of the project personally, and the contributors expressed concerns that their efforts are not tangible or noticeable as the main page status is a significant motivator for them. I have no issue with the list of the main page increasing so long as the projects are considered active, and I consider it more of a positive result to see more active projects shown on the main page. It is very difficult to get communities to participate willingly without them seeing the results of their activeness, and the main page is what keeps them motivated. If the rule is upgraded to 5 active users per month for 3 months, I'm afraid their willingness to contribute might go down as many already find it hard to contribute for 3 months straight in the current rules for active status. Therefore, I don't see having a large list of active projects on the main page as a bad thing and prefer to keep it that way as a motivator to keep active. Ultron90 (talk) 03:30, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

@Ultron90 There are too many cases where some projects are only having 3 active users in some random, non-persistence months (e.g. 3 in March, then down to one or two in April, May, and suddenly 3 or more in June...), are you really sure you're agreeing multiple adding and removing just based on one-month activity? And given the cases of Wp/mnc and Wp/ryu where both are having histories of "activities" by sock accounts, I would rather believe that there are still likely cases on the de facto listed projects, how can that problem be resolved just by adding them? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:38, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226 I wasn't implying that they should be added if they are only active for one month. I was saying that I support that if it is a project that is considered active (3 users for 3 months straight, the current rule), then it should be featured on the main page regardless of how many are in the list, to encourage continued activity. If it is just one month of activity, then it shouldn't be featured. I would prefer the featured list to be coded to be dynamic so it auto updates by itself based on the catanalysis data (I initially thought that this was how it gets featured), but I don't know how to do that. Regarding sock accounts, I think it is up to the Language Committee to investigate and determine if indeed the users are sock accounts once a complaint has been lodged. Even if the limits are increased, sock accounts can just be increased too. Ultron90 (talk) 05:07, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

@Ultron90 Also, it's really a problem for main page being too long, since it can only lead more and more difficult on loading it, especially for mobile devices, as I've tried, the current mainpage already waste 1.25 G memories for loading, it won't be so before the Featured wikis list being explosively populated, just remember the comment code of that page:

CONTRIBUTORS: if your test wiki is active, you are allowed to add it to the appropriate section; but only up to 10 projects should be featured per column at the same time.

Where, still, Пан Хаунд is violating it. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:19, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Just set the page protection to "admins-only", so those "diligent" users won't bloat the list. Users may request a project to be featured (or removed) on the list via the talk page or through admin notice. Veracious (talk) 03:34, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226 It is unusual that adding some text causes such a high memory load on a page unless there is a glitch somewhere in the code. Maybe we need the mainpage to be recoded for better memory management? I personally have no problem loading the mainpage using mobile so I have no proper view on this loading issue. I hope other users or admins can give their view on this. Ultron90 (talk) 10:41, 1 January 2024 (UTC)