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Template Template:wp/grc/Πολιτεία[edit source]

Hi! I'm Tochitochii. I have created a new template to use in countries. Could you check if there is something missing or change please? Thanks

Template Template:wp/grc/Πόλις[edit source]

I have modified the template and now it specifies if the city is in a province or prefecture and it's name.

Deletion requests[edit source]

Hi, please give a reason for why you want those pages to be deleted. --MF-W {a, b} 11:33, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MF-Warburg: it's because there are already pages on this matter (wp/grc/Δακία, wp/grc/Σουηδία, wp/grc/Ἀστάνη). Please delete the pages I marked as so. PastelKos (talk) 11:44, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:wp/grc/Πολιτεία 2[edit source]

Hello, i'm Tochitochii again. Some weeks ago i sent you a note about this template and you answered me that thera was some mistakes. My lebel of ancient greek is not good enought to know what to change. Could you help me when you can, please?

Hi @Tochitochii:. The template is fine and I will certainly use it when I make articles on cities. It's just that the fields should be able to be removed when not needed. Otherwise it's good! PastelKos (talk) 11:44, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Are you talking about the template for cities, or for the template of countries? --Tochitochii (talk) 12:00, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The cities one PastelKos (talk) 12:40, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion reasons[edit source]

Hello. As in this, I see that your deletion reasons are in Ancient Greek. As Google Translator can't understand Ancient Greek, I couldn't understand the reason you have given for deletion. Wp/grc has no active test-sysops, so we, other projects' sysops and regular sysops have to intervene. But as I can't understand if the reason is valid or not, I don't want to take an action against the page. Could you please state your reasons for deletions in English, so we also can understand them? Thanks.--evrifaessa ❯❯❯ talk 13:16, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Basically, Δακία τῶν Οὐλαχῶν was moved to wp/grc/Δακία, Συηδία to wp/grc/Σουηδία and Ἀστανή to wp/grc/Ἀστάνη. So now, there are two pages with the same content. I merely asked for the pages i marked to be deleted so as not to have thsi confusion. Thanks. PastelKos (talk) 13:21, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I deleted the pages. You may also consider applying to become a test-sysop for the project, so you won't need to wait for an administrator to complete the deletion. See I:A for details.--evrifaessa ❯❯❯ talk 13:25, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Evrifaessa: I tried looking where I may apply, but I can't find a "sysops" category anywhere. Could you please help me?— The preceding unsigned comment was added by PastelKos (discussion • contribs).
First, check if you are eligible for the requirements listed in Incubator:Administrators#Test-administrators. After that, proceed directly using this link.--evrifaessa ❯❯❯ talk 13:35, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Voting[edit source]

Hi! i saw y sent me a message for vote something in [[1]] but it was deleted, what happened? Tochitochii (talk) 17:36, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I changed my mind on wether a think like this should be voted for. Don't worry PastelKos (talk) 18:00, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Χαῖρε τάν. Περὶ τοῦ αὐτοῦ. Ἀναγιγνώσκων συνῆκα ὅτι αὖθις εἰς τὸ πρότερον μετήλλαξας τὰ τῆς Ἀγορᾶς. Καθόλου γε εἰπεῖν πόῤῥω τῆς ὅλης βικιπαιδείας κεῖμαι ἐρίδων ἕνεκα. Εἰ βούλει παρ’ ἐμοῦ πυνθάνεσταί τί ποτε ποιητέον περὶ τοῦ ζητήματος λέγοιμ’ ἂν ὡς κάλλιστον, ἔμοιγε, ἂν εἴη μεταγράφειν κατὰ τὴς νέας ἑλληνικῆς (Πρότυπη νέα Ελληνική). Εὖ οὖν οἶδα τὰ πράγματα ἃ οἴσει τοῖς ἀλλοδαποῖς (τοῖς μὴ εἰδόσι νεοελληνιστὶ διαλέγεσθαι λέγω), τοῦτο μέντοι κάλλιστον δοκεῖ. Γράφοντες γὰρ “ἀττικιστὶ” χρώμεθα τῷ πολυτονικῷ ὃ δηλοῖ τὴν ἑκάστου προσῳδίαν. Οὐκ ἂν δυναίμεθα οἷον ἐκεῖνοι ἔγραφον γράφειν τὸ παράπαν. Γράφοντες ἀττικιστὶ ἢ κατὰ τῆς Κοινῆς ῥᾴδιόν ἐστι ἀλλὰ κατὰ τὸν ἀκριβῆ χρόνον καὶ τόπον χαλεπώτατον. Τοιγαροῦν εἴτε οἷον ἕκαστος βούλεται εἴτε οἷον λέγω εἴτε ἄλλῳ τῳ τρόπω. Περὶ τῆς προσῳδίας τῇδε ὅρα[[2]]. Odoiporos (talk) 18:05, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Χαῖρε! Πρῶτα, άφίει μοι τὰ έμὰ φαῦλα Ἑλληνικά ἐπεὶ κακὸς μανθάνων γὲ αὐτῶν εἰμί. Οὕτως, γράψω τοῖς κοινοῖς Ἑλληνικοῖς. Ὅπως εἶπα, ἡ γνώσεις μου πάνω στὰ ἀρχαῖα Ἑλληνικὰ δὲν εἶναι πολλές, ὁπότε ἀποκλείεται νὰ ἔπιασα τὸ πλῆρες νόημα τοῦ κειμένου (πρὸς ὑπεράσπιση μου, εἶμαι μόνο 2α Λυκείου). Ἀφ' ὅσο κατάλαβα ὅμως, τὸ νὰ γράφουμε στὸ στὺλ μίας συγκεκριμένης χρονικῆς στιγμῆς (π.χ. 2ος π.Χ. αἰώνας) εἶναι ὄντως ἀδύνατον. Γι'αὐτό, κατ'ἐμέ, τὸ καλύτερο θὰ ἦταν νὰ χρησιμοποιοῦμε τὴν γραμματικὴ τῆς ἀττικῆς διαλέκτου, ἀντλόμενοι λεξιλόγιο ἀπὸ ἕνα πιὸ εὐρὺ χρονικὸ φάσμα, ἰδιαίτερα γιὰ λέξεις ποὺ δὲν ἔχουν ἀντιστοιχία στὴν Ἀττικὴ Διάλεκτο. Εἶχα ξεκινήσει νὰ προσπαθήσω μέσῳ ψηφοφορίας νὰ λύσουμε τὸ θέμα οὐ/β, ἀλλὰ συνειδητοποίησα πὼς παραἦταν ἔξω τῶν γνώσεων μου καὶ τῶν δυνατοτήτων μου καὶ πώς, ἐν τέλει, ὁ καθένας Ἃς χρησιμοποιῇ τὴν μεταγραφὴ ποὺ τὸν βολεύει. Δὲν ξέρω ὅμως. Ζητῶ ξανὰ συγγνώμη ἂν δὲν ἀναφέρθην σὲ κἄτι ἀπ' αὐτὰ ποὺ μοῦ ἔγγραψες, ἀλλὰ ἡ κατανόηση μου ἔχει, φεῦ, ἕνα ὅριο. PastelKos (talk) 18:41, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Φίλε μου, ἀπὸ τὴν στιγμὴ ποὺ εἶσαι ἀκόμη μαθητὴς ὄχι «φαῦλα» ἀλλὰ ἐξαιρετικὰ εἶναι τὰ ἑλληνικά σου. Ἂν δὲν ἀλλάξεις ἀπόψεις, στὸ μέλλον θὰ γίνεις ἕνας ἐξαιρετικὸς φιλόλογος (ἀκόμα θυμάμαι τὸν καθηγητὴ Παπαθωμᾶ νὰ τρελαίνεται ἀπὸ τὰ ἄπειρα ὀρθογραφικὰ τελειοφοίτων τοῦ ΕΚΠΑ), κάτι τὸ ὁποῖο χρειαζόμαστε ὅσο ποτέ. Τὸ ζήτημα εἶναι τόσο περίπλοκο ποὺ πρέπει νἀπαντήσει, ἔστω ἁδρομερῶς, κάποιος μὲ εἰδίκευσι στὴν γλωσσολογία. Ὅπως ἔγραψα, τὸ νὰ θέσουμε αὐστηροὺς κανόνες σημαίνει ὅτι πρέπει νὰ ἐπιλέξουμε ὄχι μόνον διάλεκτο καὶ πόλι ἀλλὰ καὶ ἐξαιρετικῶς λεπτὲς χρονικὲς στιγμές. Στὸ κομμάτι τοῦ λεξιλογίου συμφωνῶ, ὁ Πλάτων, λ.χ., χρησιμοποιοῦσε κατὰ τὸ μᾶλλον ἢ ἧττον παρῳχημένες ἢ σπάνιες λέξεις (βλ «ἀϊστωθείη» στὸν Πρωταγόρα, θὰ τὸ δεῖς τοῦ χρόνου), ὁμοίως καὶ ὁ Ξενοφῶν. Γραμματικῶς. Γιὰ νὰ ἀντικαταστήσει κάποιος λ.χ. τὸ W μιᾶς λέξεως μὲ κάτι ἄλλο εἶναι ἀπὸ μόνο του καταστροφή. Ἔστω ὡς παράδειγμα ἡ Γραμμικὴ Β΄, ἐν ᾗ τὸ W ἔγινε δίγαμμα (F), βλ. Di-we>ΔιFεί>Διί. Τὸ F γενικῶς πέρασε στὰ ἀγγλικὰ ὡς W (Φοῖνος>wine Γερμ. Wein, βλ. vinum), Fέργον>work, Fιδεῖν>video... Κατὰ τὸ Liddel/Scott (ἐκδ. Πελεκάνος 2006 Τ2 σ. 463) στὴν Τσακωνικὴ ἔγινε βῆτα (βοῖνος). Ἀλλοῦ δὲν ἄφησε ἴχνος (Fελένη). Συνεπῶς, δεδομένου ὅτι δὲν γνωρίζουμε ὅλες τὶς ἐτυμολογίες (καὶ γιὰ ὅσες ξέρουμε εἶναι τεραστία δουλειά) ἐῤῥέτω ποὺ ἔλεγαν καὶ οἱ ἀρχαῖοι ἡμῶν. Περισσότερα γιὰ τὸ F στὴν ἱστρικὴ γραμματικὴ τοῦ Σταματάκου (ἂν καὶ συνετάχθη πρὸ τῆς ἀποκρυπτ. τῆς ΓΓΒ΄) καὶ γενικῶς βλ. τὴν βιβλιογραφία αὐτοῦ ποὺ ἔδωσα ἀνωτέρω. Μία συμβουλή. Ὅ,τι ξέρεις ὣς τώρα εἶναι ἀρκετό. Διάβασε τὰ σχολικὰ βιβλία καὶ γράψε βάσει αὐτῶν στὶς πανελλήνιες. Εἰδεμὴ δὲν θὰ γράψεις καλά, ὅσο ἀνώτερος καὶ ἂν εἶσαι ἀπὸ ἄτομα ποὺ βάζουν περισπωμένη στὸ ἔψιλον καὶ ἀνήκουν στὸν κλάδο πε02. Οἱ διορθωτὲς περιμένουν συγκεκριμένα πράγματα. Γράψε ὅ,τι στὸ βιβλίο/βοηθήματα καὶ ὄχι τί λέει ὁ B. Knox, ὁ Ed. Taylor κτλ, ἐκτὸς καὶ ἂν ἐκεῖ ἀναφέρονται. Πέρασα στὸ πανεπιστήμιο μὲ τὴν δεύτερη στὰ 22, ἐνῷ ἀνῆκα σὲ ἄλλη κατεύθυνση. Βάσει ἐμπειρίας σοῦ γράφω.Odoiporos (talk) 10:31, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine[edit source]

Hi @PastelKos:. I don't know if there is a form to write you in private, but anyway. I write to tell you that I'm OK. I've been busy, and I predict that I will be busy for a quit long time. Anyway, I will continue helping as much as I can (and as much as my level of Ancient Greek let me do it,). So I still continue here. P.D: Thank you so much for ask. That's very kind of your part. I wish you a good day. Tochitochii (talk) 21:05, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Tochitochii: I'm so glad you're okay! Hope to see you around. Take care!! <3 PastelKos (talk) 21:23, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

City template[edit source]

Template:Wp/grc/Πόλεις[edit source]

Hi, I'm @Tochitochii. I write you because I've seen that you has made a new template for cities, but it looks almost exactly like the one I already made. Would you explain me why did yo create a new one instead of modify the one I made, please? Thank you. Tochitochii (talk) 20:06, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Basically, it's just more flexible and allows for references, links and such to be added. The reason why I didn't just modify the existing Template:Wp/grc/Πόλις is because then all the pages you created that used that template would be broken. Anyways, please use Template:Wp/grc/Πόλεις from now on and if you don't mind, please go back to the pages that use the Πόλις one and fix them. Thank you! PastelKos (talk) 20:15, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just Checkin[edit source]

Hi again @PastelKos:. I'm still fine , thanks to worry about me. I begin to have time to edit, so soon we will editing together. --Tochitochii (talk) 20:26, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pagemove[edit source]

See edit history of my IP - affected pages should be moved not copy pasted, edit filters prevent me from fixing it. 31.60.57.28 19:35, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed with the IP - I restored the previous state. If the page should be at the other location, please use the move function. --MF-W {a, b} 20:31, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello! Thanks for this message. I have hitherto fixed the issue. PastelKos (talk) 21:05, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Page duplicated[edit source]

Please delete page Wq/grc/Ἀδελφὰ Ἐγχειρήματα as I accidentally created it on the wrong namespace. 24.50.204.179 11:55, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have done so. Thanks for letting me know --PastelKos (talk) 12:37, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to Ancient Greek Wikiquote[edit source]

Last month, in order to reflect the Βικι to Οὐικι change on all the other Grc Wikiprojects and since Wikiquote remained unchanged and inactive, I changed all references of Βικι to Οὐικι in that wiki, but you may not have noticed this. (the changes are from the IP 24.50.204.179 in the same range, and not this one). See Wq/grc/Κυρία Δέλτος, Template:Wq/grc/Ἀδελφὰ Ἐγχειρήματα and Template:Wq/grc/Ἀλλογλωσσιστί for more information. Feel free to change anything wrong.

24.50.204.131 18:31, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@24.50.204.131: Hi there! Thank you very much for these edits. Some day I'll have to rework the main page of Wikiquote but right now I'm focused on Wikipedia. Btw, are you interested in contributing to this Wikipedia? Also, making an actual account (aka not using your IP adress) would make communication much more easier! Just a thought though. Thanks again! --PastelKos (talk) 20:03, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge[edit source]

Hello, I think Wp/grc/ Ἐσπεράντο and Wp/grc/Ἐσπεράντο should be merged. The latter is older. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:16, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for notifing me; I have merged the two pages. Ἔρρωσο! --PastelKos (talk) 20:04, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Need help in navbox[edit source]

Hello sir PastelKos. I love the work you are doing in wikipedia in ancian greck, i contribute in Wikipedia tachlhit (Wp/shi) and i need help concerning the navbox, ive tried multiple times to make it work but i coulnt. I guess you have more knowledge about this so im asking for your help. Thank you sir - Ayour2002 (talk) 15:42, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Ayour2002:! Thank you very much for the compliments, I'm just doing the best I can. Also, please call me just Pastelkos we're both equal wikipedians. I'll be glad to help you with the navboxes. By the way, I love the main page of the tachlit wikipedia. --PastelKos (talk) 12:22, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @PastelKos:! Sorry for my late reply, actually i just saw your answer :) by the way i did took the template of infobox of languages from ancian greck wikipedia if you dont mind. Also yeah if you are free can you please check what is wrong with the navboc in this page ? https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wp/shi/Tutlayin_Timazi%C9%A3in , ive been wanting to create this template https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Berber_languages. If you can fix this i'll be so thanksful. Also if u need any help with smthng i know i'm here , we can help each other. --Ayour2002 (talk) 00:41, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry about the late reply @Ayour2002:. Unfortunately, the english wikipedia's template requires other templates and modules which do not work in Incubator. If you want, I can try to replicate it but it won't be exactly the same. --PastelKos (talk) 18:31, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Edit: Here's what I made. Hope it's ok! :) — The preceding unsigned comment was added by PastelKos (discussion • contribs) 18:58, 22 March 2021.
@PastelKos: Wow thanks man i really apriciate your help :D i was looking to make this for so long -- Ayour2002 (talk) 14:15, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Ayour2002: No problem! Glad I could help --PastelKos (talk) 14:37, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Interested in Ancient Greek Wiki, please help needed[edit source]

Hi, PastelKos! I see you are the administrator of this magnificent project I would like to contribute to! Therefore, could you please tell me how to creat a new page on the incubator Wiki? Thank you! — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Κάσσιος Ἀγαθόδωρος Λαβρώνικος (discussion • contribs) 15:49, 29 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Hello @Κάσσιος Ἀγαθόδωρος Λαβρώνικος:, if you go to the main page go where there is a box with wp/grc/ in front. Type the name of your article and then click the blue box below. Remember not to delete the wp/grc/ part. Also, please remember to always sign your messages with --~~~~ --PastelKos (talk) 16:00, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Incubator:Requests for deletions/Requests[edit source]

Hi, I saw that you voted to keep Middle English Wikipedia. Thank you very much! Someone replied you (without pinging) and just wrote why. I will greatly appreciate if you write few arguments since they are better. Btw, I like the hieroglyphics in your user page. What do they mean? Another btw, I would like to start contributing to Ancient Greek Wikipedia. Where do you recommend to start learning? Thanks in advance, -Gifnk dlm 2020 (talk) 15:33, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Χαῖρε @Gifnk dlm 2020:! Sorry fot the late reply but weirdly, I hadn't received any messages. Anyways, if you want to contribute, a good start would be to find some ancient greek grammar book and start learning! Also, the hieroglyphs are from Philip Glass' opera Akhnaten. --PastelKos (talk) 06:41, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much! -Gifnk dlm 2020 (talk) 17:04, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Incubator and still not Wikipedia[edit source]

@PastelKos: Hello PastelKos! I saw your ancient Greek Wikipedia has more than 1000 articles and has exceeded three months active period also! But still, it's in incubator and not approved as a complete Wikipedia. Why so? Is there a specific reason? Haoreima (talk) 03:31, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, I also want to start Wp/omp (Ancient Meitei Wikipedia). But I saw many said something about the exception of ancient language test wiki from normal language! Do you have any idea? If yes, please help me clarify it. Haoreima (talk) 03:35, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Χαῖρε @Haoreima:! It is most unfortunate that while the Ancient Greek Wiki has many artiles, most of them are not well written, lacking or plain wrong. I am trying my best to fix them one by one and, honestly, I don't think this wiki is ready to be released. Another reason is that you need at least 3 active editors for your wiki to get out of incubator. "Ancient" languages are considered dead (something I would not say about Ancient Greek but anyway) and thus it's difficult to get many articles and users for their wikipeidas. Otherwise, it's the same process with every other language. Let me know if you need any other help! --PastelKos (talk) 06:38, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oh actually I saw this and I am really confused what this is! Because there's Ancient Greek incubator, but at the same time there's a series of proposal to get wiki! https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ancient_Greek Haoreima (talk) 10:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Important precision : in fact, there is 4 proposals : m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Ancient Greek, m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Ancient Greek 2, m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Ancient Greek 3 and m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Ancient Greek 4. The first 3 have been rejected and - sadly - the fourth will probably get rejected eventually too as it does not currently meet the requisites of the m:Language proposal policy. Cheers, VIGNERON * discut. 11:20, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@PastelKos: Since there were series of rejection in the former attempts, I want to know that whether Ancient Greek wiki incubator has at least 3 active users in three consecutive months or not? Was the rejection for this reason or another? I want to know this because I am to start my Wp/omp (Ancient Meitei incubator), so, I want to have deep knowledge about the ongoing scenario. Haoreima (talk) 14:32, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Haoreima: No it does not.--PastelKos (talk) 14:35, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Then, can we achieve our goals, grc Wikipedia for you, and omp Wikipedia for us, thought the policy guidelines has some rules? I mean, if we have more than 3 active users in 3 months. Haoreima (talk) 14:42, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Haoreima: It is indeed my desire that there be 3 active users.--PastelKos (talk) 14:47, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Haoreima: in every test wiki in incubator you can press check test wiki activity and see the statistics. You will have to check in Wp/grc not the main page though. Last month there were three non grayed out users so I think that there’s hope. -Gifnk dlm 2020 (talk) 18:11, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A request at meta to start allowing ancient languages[edit source]

Hi PastelKos, I posted a request for comment at meta requesting that they allow new wikis in ancient languages again. Since you are a very frequent editor in Ancient Greek Wikipedia I was wondering if you are interested in leaving a comment. If this initiative passes it will open the way for Ancient Greek Wikipedia to get a subdomain. That’s why I pinged you and other contributors to Ancient Greek Wikipedia but you may have missed the ping. -Gifnk dlm 2020 (talk) 15:05, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Localization[edit source]

Hi, I see that quite a large number of messages in Wp/grc is localized. If you check out Wp/enm, you will see that none of the messages were localized. I tried to translate some of them several times but never understood how it works. Could you please explain how the localization works? Thanks in advance, -Gifnk dlm 2020 (talk) 20:50, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Wp/grc/Βιετνάμη rename[edit source]

Hi, could you rename Wp/grc/Βιετνάμη to Wp/grc/Οὐιετνάμη? This would coincide with the new β > οὐ transcription rule for /v/ and /w/. I have edited the page to reflect the changes. The only thing needed is to rename the page. BTW, I see that you have reworked the pages for Europe, Africa and the Americas. Do you have any plans to rework the pages for Asia and Oceania, which haven't been done yet? Thanks! 24.50.204.59 16:40, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! Yes I am planning to remake all the country pages for every continent. The previous editors made some unfortunate mistakes which we know have to fix. I am going through them one by one changing names and adding contnet but since you requested Vietnam, I will certainly do. Thanks again! --PastelKos (talk) 16:43, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for moving the page! 24.50.204.59 05:49, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Misspellings on many pages that need to be fixed[edit source]

Hi again! I was noticing why did many of the former editors not add accents on some words, and even on foreign name transliterations? Here are some examples: (errors marked in bold)

1. Wp/grc/Βρασιλία and possibly many other articles: Όἱ Ποταμοι, but mostly linking to the accented form Wp/grc/Ποταμός.


2. Wp/grc/Οὐατικανόπολις and possibly some other articles containing foreign names: Ό τῆς Πολιτείας γραφεὺς τῆς Οὐατικανοπόλεως Ταρσίζιος Βερτονη ἐστίν.

(Also in the section Ή Ῥωμαϊκὴ ή αὐλή: Φραντσίσκος Αρινζη, Ἰωάννης Βλαζιος δη Αβιζις, Δομινικος Καλκαγνο, Μαρκος Ουλλετ, Μαυρος Πιατζενζα, etc.)


3. An older revision of Wp/grc/Γάγγης: Ὁ Γάγγης ὁ ποταμος ἐν τῇ Ἰνδίᾳ ἐστιν. Ό Γάγγης' ὁ τῶν Ἰνδων ποταμος ὁ ἱερος ἐστιν. (already fixed).

Also on Wp/grc/Ἰνδός but a double accent as in Ἴνδός, and in Wp/grc/Τίγρης: ὁ ποταμος ἐν τῇ Μεσοποταμίᾳ ἐστιν. (This page is also on the category Wp/grc/Ποταμοι).

All these 3 pages are linking to Wp/grc/Ποταμος (without accent).


4. Wp/grc/Ἱεροσόλυμα and some other articles mentioning Christianity: Ιερουσαλήμ γάρ ἡ τῶν Ἰουδαίων καί τῶν Χριστιανων καί τῶν Μουσουλμάνων πόλις ἡ ἱερά ἐστιν.

Also on an older version of Wp/grc/Βιβλία: Tὰ Βιβλία τῶν Ἰουδαίων καί τῶν Χριστιανων τὸ βιβλίον τὸ ἱερον ἐστιν. (already fixed), and on Wp/grc/Καθολικὴ Ἐκκλησία: μέγιστη τῶν Χριστιανων Ἐκκλησία ὑπὸ τοῦ Πάπου.


...etc.

Finally, I see that you have recently moved some articles with unaccented names to versions with accented names.

Thanks again! 24.50.204.59 05:46, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

UPDATE 6/24/2021: User:Aureliiuss is fixing some of the pages. I just want to know your opinion on why did the former editors did this. Thanks! 24.50.204.179 13:04, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the late reply @24.50.204.179:. I don't know why the former editors did these and I do not want to make any comments that will degrade them. Let's not focus on them though, let's look to the future. --PastelKos (talk) 13:06, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
OK then, I understand. Also, thanks for the efforts you’re making to improve this Wikipedia! 24.50.204.179 13:11, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You're very welcome! Btw, I think making an actual wikimedia account would be better so your contributions are actually counted in the CatAnalysis and so we can communicate more easily. Also, during the summer I'll be away from my computer so I will be able to make less contributions to the wiki. Keep that in mind as well. Thank you again! --PastelKos (talk) 13:15, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your test adminship is about to expire soon[edit source]

Hi PastelKos! Remember that your text adminship is about to expire soon, on September 13. Be sure to renew it soon! Thanks! 24.50.204.2 20:40, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion[edit source]

Hello PastelKos, how are you going? If possible, I'd like to suggest the translation of 4 articles to Ancient Greek: Luís Gama, Netto Question, Henrique Lins de Barros and Projeto Portinari. I'm currently working in the first two articles and wrote the last from the scratch and I would like to see these supporting new projects. If doesn't exist, would be really nice to see an Wikipedia: Requested Articles as a place where all the current and new projects could get new articles for translation. I would like to help more on the Incubator, but I only have knowledge of Portuguese (main) and English and it seems that my computer doesn't like the SignWitten formate hahaha Thanks, Erick Soares3 (talk) 23:35, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wp/grc/Οὐκιπαιδεία:Δέλτοι ἅσπερ δεῖ ἁπάσας τὰς Οὐικιπαιδείας περιέχειν[edit source]

Χαῖρε PastelKos. I worked a little bit on reorganizing Wp/grc/Οὐκιπαιδεία:Δέλτοι ἅσπερ δεῖ ἁπάσας τὰς Οὐικιπαιδείας περιέχειν and have finished the βιογραφίαι section. If it looks good to you, I'll start working on creating those articles. Perhaps it'll be good to create the categories, too. AristippusSer (talk) 19:42, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Χαῖρε @AristippusSer:! What a coincidence that we're both working on the same thing. The Wp/grc/Οὐκιπαιδεία:Δέλτοι ἅσπερ δεῖ ἁπάσας τὰς Οὐικιπαιδείας περιέχειν is outdated in the terms it includes as it does not match the https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_articles_every_Wikipedia_should_have. The list you have created (especially the adding of their native names) is excellent! However, if you don't mind, check my list here that fits the new articles as well and especially look the hellenisations I created for names that did not have an already hellenised/latinised name. If you don't like some, you can write next to them what you think is more appropiate and then we can compare. --PastelKos (talk) 08:31, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New support group for all ancient language communities[edit source]

Hi @PastelKos:, some of us are trying to set up a Wikimedia User Group to promote the use of Ancient Languages on Wikimedia. We are ALPES Ancient Language Promotion, Education and Support – and would really value some strong links with the group writing in Ancient Greek. --JimKillock (talk) 18:10, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @JimKillock:, I shall definetly join! --PastelKos (talk) 14:21, 18 September 2021 (UTC)--PastelKos (talk) 14:21, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@PastelKos: But I don't find your Ancient Greek in the list of proposed languages. So, by signing up, what will you do? Please don't mind, I am just curious because I also get worried for omp incubator (Ancient Meitei)! Haoreima (talk) 08:28, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Haoreima: The list shows current wikis for now, that's probably why Ancient Greek and Ancient Meitei are not listed. --PastelKos (talk) 10:54, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@PastelKos: Then, is there any prospect of getting wikipedia status for Ancient Greek (grc) and Ancient Manipuri (omp)? Haoreima (talk) 11:28, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Haoreima: probably --PastelKos (talk) 11:50, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@PastelKos: I too signed after seeing yours! Well, what is the purpose of signing then when our desired languages aren't there? Please explain me. I am little confused. Haoreima (talk) 12:13, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Δείτε[edit source]

εδώ αν ενδιαφέρεστε να ψηφίσεται νέους διαχειριστές 2A02:587:5478:3AC4:F504:4364:BF3D:A6A3 17:50, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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ꯒꯧꯇꯝꯀꯨꯃꯥꯔ ꯑꯣꯢꯅꯥꯝ (وسيم) (chat) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Lots of love from Manipur and Manipuri Wikimedians! :-) Haoreima (talk) 08:29, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Haoreima: Thank you so much! May you have a lovely Christmas too! -- PastelKos (talk) 22:52, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas 2021[edit source]

Gifnk dlm 2020 (chat) wishes you a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Hopefully this greeting has made your day a little better. Spread WikiLove by wishing another user Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Much love! -Gifnk dlm 2020 Merry Christmas 🎄(talk) 11:57, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Gifnk dlm 2020: Thank you so much! May you have a lovely Christmas too! -- PastelKos (talk) 22:53, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Some articles are using monotonic instead of polytonic Greek[edit source]

Some articles in the Ancient Greek Wikipedia (for example - this one: https://incubator.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/grc/Οἰκία_τοῦ_Λουθήρου_(Ἄϊζεναχ) ) are using a monotonic version of Ancient Greek. I suggest that this, along with some other articles you may find with these errors, to correct them. 24.138.226.197 00:58, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately there are many articles like that, and some that don't even use ancient greek in them. Unfortunately, this year are my final exams so I cannot be as active. Should you find any more articles like that, please notify me so I can put them in a list. Χαῖρε! -- PastelKos (talk) 14:03, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ancient Greek poleis project[edit source]

Hi! First of all I would like to thank you for all the work you have done for this project. I write to you to announce my intention to create (step by step) Ancient Greek Wikipedia pages for all known ancient Greek poleis. For this reason, I've created a new template (see: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wp/grc/%E1%BC%88%CF%81%CF%87%CE%B1%CE%AF%CE%B1_%CE%A0%CF%8C%CE%BB%CE%B9%CF%82) and a sample (see: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/grc/%E1%BC%88%CF%81%CF%87%CE%B1%E1%BF%96%CE%B1_%CE%9C%CE%AD%CE%B3%CE%B1%CF%81%CE%B1). Let me know if you find any mistake or if you have any suggestions (especially, improvements of the template format, or other readily available information which I could include)!

I know that this Wikipedia has not bright prospects at the moment but I think that this might change through hard work.

PS: I would also like to point out to you that this page is most probably out of place (https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/grc/User:LunaValo%C3%A4a) I'm not an expert in how Wikipedia works but I definitely think that that user page should not be there. Anaxicrates (talk) 18:50, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

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