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Template Template:wp/grc/Πολιτεία[edit source]

Hi! I'm Tochitochii. I have created a new template to use in countries. Could you check if there is something missing or change please? Thanks

Template Template:wp/grc/Πόλις[edit source]

I have modified the template and now it specifies if the city is in a province or prefecture and it's name.

Deletion requests[edit source]

Hi, please give a reason for why you want those pages to be deleted. --MF-W {a, b} 11:33, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

@MF-Warburg: it's because there are already pages on this matter (wp/grc/Δακία, wp/grc/Σουηδία, wp/grc/Ἀστάνη). Please delete the pages I marked as so. PastelKos (talk) 11:44, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Template:wp/grc/Πολιτεία 2[edit source]

Hello, i'm Tochitochii again. Some weeks ago i sent you a note about this template and you answered me that thera was some mistakes. My lebel of ancient greek is not good enought to know what to change. Could you help me when you can, please?

Hi @Tochitochii:. The template is fine and I will certainly use it when I make articles on cities. It's just that the fields should be able to be removed when not needed. Otherwise it's good! PastelKos (talk) 11:44, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
Are you talking about the template for cities, or for the template of countries? --Tochitochii (talk) 12:00, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
The cities one PastelKos (talk) 12:40, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Deletion reasons[edit source]

Hello. As in this, I see that your deletion reasons are in Ancient Greek. As Google Translator can't understand Ancient Greek, I couldn't understand the reason you have given for deletion. Wp/grc has no active test-sysops, so we, other projects' sysops and regular sysops have to intervene. But as I can't understand if the reason is valid or not, I don't want to take an action against the page. Could you please state your reasons for deletions in English, so we also can understand them? Thanks.--evrifaessa ❯❯❯ talk 13:16, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Basically, Δακία τῶν Οὐλαχῶν was moved to wp/grc/Δακία, Συηδία to wp/grc/Σουηδία and Ἀστανή to wp/grc/Ἀστάνη. So now, there are two pages with the same content. I merely asked for the pages i marked to be deleted so as not to have thsi confusion. Thanks. PastelKos (talk) 13:21, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. I deleted the pages. You may also consider applying to become a test-sysop for the project, so you won't need to wait for an administrator to complete the deletion. See I:A for details.--evrifaessa ❯❯❯ talk 13:25, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
@Evrifaessa: I tried looking where I may apply, but I can't find a "sysops" category anywhere. Could you please help me?— The preceding unsigned comment was added by PastelKos (discussioncontribs).
First, check if you are eligible for the requirements listed in Incubator:Administrators#Test-administrators. After that, proceed directly using this link.--evrifaessa ❯❯❯ talk 13:35, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Voting[edit source]

Hi! i saw y sent me a message for vote something in [[1]] but it was deleted, what happened? Tochitochii (talk) 17:36, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

I changed my mind on wether a think like this should be voted for. Don't worry PastelKos (talk) 18:00, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Χαῖρε τάν. Περὶ τοῦ αὐτοῦ. Ἀναγιγνώσκων συνῆκα ὅτι αὖθις εἰς τὸ πρότερον μετήλλαξας τὰ τῆς Ἀγορᾶς. Καθόλου γε εἰπεῖν πόῤῥω τῆς ὅλης βικιπαιδείας κεῖμαι ἐρίδων ἕνεκα. Εἰ βούλει παρ’ ἐμοῦ πυνθάνεσταί τί ποτε ποιητέον περὶ τοῦ ζητήματος λέγοιμ’ ἂν ὡς κάλλιστον, ἔμοιγε, ἂν εἴη μεταγράφειν κατὰ τὴς νέας ἑλληνικῆς (Πρότυπη νέα Ελληνική). Εὖ οὖν οἶδα τὰ πράγματα ἃ οἴσει τοῖς ἀλλοδαποῖς (τοῖς μὴ εἰδόσι νεοελληνιστὶ διαλέγεσθαι λέγω), τοῦτο μέντοι κάλλιστον δοκεῖ. Γράφοντες γὰρ “ἀττικιστὶ” χρώμεθα τῷ πολυτονικῷ ὃ δηλοῖ τὴν ἑκάστου προσῳδίαν. Οὐκ ἂν δυναίμεθα οἷον ἐκεῖνοι ἔγραφον γράφειν τὸ παράπαν. Γράφοντες ἀττικιστὶ ἢ κατὰ τῆς Κοινῆς ῥᾴδιόν ἐστι ἀλλὰ κατὰ τὸν ἀκριβῆ χρόνον καὶ τόπον χαλεπώτατον. Τοιγαροῦν εἴτε οἷον ἕκαστος βούλεται εἴτε οἷον λέγω εἴτε ἄλλῳ τῳ τρόπω. Περὶ τῆς προσῳδίας τῇδε ὅρα[[2]]. Odoiporos (talk) 18:05, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Χαῖρε! Πρῶτα, άφίει μοι τὰ έμὰ φαῦλα Ἑλληνικά ἐπεὶ κακὸς μανθάνων γὲ αὐτῶν εἰμί. Οὕτως, γράψω τοῖς κοινοῖς Ἑλληνικοῖς. Ὅπως εἶπα, ἡ γνώσεις μου πάνω στὰ ἀρχαῖα Ἑλληνικὰ δὲν εἶναι πολλές, ὁπότε ἀποκλείεται νὰ ἔπιασα τὸ πλῆρες νόημα τοῦ κειμένου (πρὸς ὑπεράσπιση μου, εἶμαι μόνο 2α Λυκείου). Ἀφ' ὅσο κατάλαβα ὅμως, τὸ νὰ γράφουμε στὸ στὺλ μίας συγκεκριμένης χρονικῆς στιγμῆς (π.χ. 2ος π.Χ. αἰώνας) εἶναι ὄντως ἀδύνατον. Γι'αὐτό, κατ'ἐμέ, τὸ καλύτερο θὰ ἦταν νὰ χρησιμοποιοῦμε τὴν γραμματικὴ τῆς ἀττικῆς διαλέκτου, ἀντλόμενοι λεξιλόγιο ἀπὸ ἕνα πιὸ εὐρὺ χρονικὸ φάσμα, ἰδιαίτερα γιὰ λέξεις ποὺ δὲν ἔχουν ἀντιστοιχία στὴν Ἀττικὴ Διάλεκτο. Εἶχα ξεκινήσει νὰ προσπαθήσω μέσῳ ψηφοφορίας νὰ λύσουμε τὸ θέμα οὐ/β, ἀλλὰ συνειδητοποίησα πὼς παραἦταν ἔξω τῶν γνώσεων μου καὶ τῶν δυνατοτήτων μου καὶ πώς, ἐν τέλει, ὁ καθένας Ἃς χρησιμοποιῇ τὴν μεταγραφὴ ποὺ τὸν βολεύει. Δὲν ξέρω ὅμως. Ζητῶ ξανὰ συγγνώμη ἂν δὲν ἀναφέρθην σὲ κἄτι ἀπ' αὐτὰ ποὺ μοῦ ἔγγραψες, ἀλλὰ ἡ κατανόηση μου ἔχει, φεῦ, ἕνα ὅριο. PastelKos (talk) 18:41, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Φίλε μου, ἀπὸ τὴν στιγμὴ ποὺ εἶσαι ἀκόμη μαθητὴς ὄχι «φαῦλα» ἀλλὰ ἐξαιρετικὰ εἶναι τὰ ἑλληνικά σου. Ἂν δὲν ἀλλάξεις ἀπόψεις, στὸ μέλλον θὰ γίνεις ἕνας ἐξαιρετικὸς φιλόλογος (ἀκόμα θυμάμαι τὸν καθηγητὴ Παπαθωμᾶ νὰ τρελαίνεται ἀπὸ τὰ ἄπειρα ὀρθογραφικὰ τελειοφοίτων τοῦ ΕΚΠΑ), κάτι τὸ ὁποῖο χρειαζόμαστε ὅσο ποτέ. Τὸ ζήτημα εἶναι τόσο περίπλοκο ποὺ πρέπει νἀπαντήσει, ἔστω ἁδρομερῶς, κάποιος μὲ εἰδίκευσι στὴν γλωσσολογία. Ὅπως ἔγραψα, τὸ νὰ θέσουμε αὐστηροὺς κανόνες σημαίνει ὅτι πρέπει νὰ ἐπιλέξουμε ὄχι μόνον διάλεκτο καὶ πόλι ἀλλὰ καὶ ἐξαιρετικῶς λεπτὲς χρονικὲς στιγμές. Στὸ κομμάτι τοῦ λεξιλογίου συμφωνῶ, ὁ Πλάτων, λ.χ., χρησιμοποιοῦσε κατὰ τὸ μᾶλλον ἢ ἧττον παρῳχημένες ἢ σπάνιες λέξεις (βλ «ἀϊστωθείη» στὸν Πρωταγόρα, θὰ τὸ δεῖς τοῦ χρόνου), ὁμοίως καὶ ὁ Ξενοφῶν. Γραμματικῶς. Γιὰ νὰ ἀντικαταστήσει κάποιος λ.χ. τὸ W μιᾶς λέξεως μὲ κάτι ἄλλο εἶναι ἀπὸ μόνο του καταστροφή. Ἔστω ὡς παράδειγμα ἡ Γραμμικὴ Β΄, ἐν ᾗ τὸ W ἔγινε δίγαμμα (F), βλ. Di-we>ΔιFεί>Διί. Τὸ F γενικῶς πέρασε στὰ ἀγγλικὰ ὡς W (Φοῖνος>wine Γερμ. Wein, βλ. vinum), Fέργον>work, Fιδεῖν>video... Κατὰ τὸ Liddel/Scott (ἐκδ. Πελεκάνος 2006 Τ2 σ. 463) στὴν Τσακωνικὴ ἔγινε βῆτα (βοῖνος). Ἀλλοῦ δὲν ἄφησε ἴχνος (Fελένη). Συνεπῶς, δεδομένου ὅτι δὲν γνωρίζουμε ὅλες τὶς ἐτυμολογίες (καὶ γιὰ ὅσες ξέρουμε εἶναι τεραστία δουλειά) ἐῤῥέτω ποὺ ἔλεγαν καὶ οἱ ἀρχαῖοι ἡμῶν. Περισσότερα γιὰ τὸ F στὴν ἱστρικὴ γραμματικὴ τοῦ Σταματάκου (ἂν καὶ συνετάχθη πρὸ τῆς ἀποκρυπτ. τῆς ΓΓΒ΄) καὶ γενικῶς βλ. τὴν βιβλιογραφία αὐτοῦ ποὺ ἔδωσα ἀνωτέρω. Μία συμβουλή. Ὅ,τι ξέρεις ὣς τώρα εἶναι ἀρκετό. Διάβασε τὰ σχολικὰ βιβλία καὶ γράψε βάσει αὐτῶν στὶς πανελλήνιες. Εἰδεμὴ δὲν θὰ γράψεις καλά, ὅσο ἀνώτερος καὶ ἂν εἶσαι ἀπὸ ἄτομα ποὺ βάζουν περισπωμένη στὸ ἔψιλον καὶ ἀνήκουν στὸν κλάδο πε02. Οἱ διορθωτὲς περιμένουν συγκεκριμένα πράγματα. Γράψε ὅ,τι στὸ βιβλίο/βοηθήματα καὶ ὄχι τί λέει ὁ B. Knox, ὁ Ed. Taylor κτλ, ἐκτὸς καὶ ἂν ἐκεῖ ἀναφέρονται. Πέρασα στὸ πανεπιστήμιο μὲ τὴν δεύτερη στὰ 22, ἐνῷ ἀνῆκα σὲ ἄλλη κατεύθυνση. Βάσει ἐμπειρίας σοῦ γράφω.Odoiporos (talk) 10:31, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

I'm fine[edit source]

Hi @PastelKos:. I don't know if there is a form to write you in private, but anyway. I write to tell you that I'm OK. I've been busy, and I predict that I will be busy for a quit long time. Anyway, I will continue helping as much as I can (and as much as my level of Ancient Greek let me do it,). So I still continue here. P.D: Thank you so much for ask. That's very kind of your part. I wish you a good day. Tochitochii (talk) 21:05, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

@Tochitochii: I'm so glad you're okay! Hope to see you around. Take care!! <3 PastelKos (talk) 21:23, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

City template[edit source]

Template:Wp/grc/Πόλεις[edit source]

Hi, I'm @Tochitochii. I write you because I've seen that you has made a new template for cities, but it looks almost exactly like the one I already made. Would you explain me why did yo create a new one instead of modify the one I made, please? Thank you. Tochitochii (talk) 20:06, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Basically, it's just more flexible and allows for references, links and such to be added. The reason why I didn't just modify the existing Template:Wp/grc/Πόλις is because then all the pages you created that used that template would be broken. Anyways, please use Template:Wp/grc/Πόλεις from now on and if you don't mind, please go back to the pages that use the Πόλις one and fix them. Thank you! PastelKos (talk) 20:15, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Just Checkin[edit source]

Hi again @PastelKos:. I'm still fine , thanks to worry about me. I begin to have time to edit, so soon we will editing together. --Tochitochii (talk) 20:26, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Pagemove[edit source]

See edit history of my IP - affected pages should be moved not copy pasted, edit filters prevent me from fixing it. 31.60.57.28 19:35, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Agreed with the IP - I restored the previous state. If the page should be at the other location, please use the move function. --MF-W {a, b} 20:31, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Hello! Thanks for this message. I have hitherto fixed the issue. PastelKos (talk) 21:05, 20 December 2020 (UTC)