Incubator:Requests for deletions/Archive/2024

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Wp/anp and Wt/ckb

So far, both projects are launched for half years, and since then many other projects also launched, I doubt if there are still pages not migrated yet. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:50, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

I started the deletion of Wt/ckb. --MF-W {a, b} 23:22, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Both projects deleted, the other projects created in 2023 will now also be deleted. --MF-W {a, b} 12:40, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Thx very much. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:06, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Wp/dcr

iso639-3:dcr is currently classified this language as Extinct, therefore having an Incubator test project violates LPP. As the current residents of Saint John, Saint Thomas, and Saint Croix Islands are only speaking English in their life, there's pointless to still have a Creole which the last speaker deceased for 36 years. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:16, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Deleted. --MF-W {a, b} 15:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Wp/vot

Alright. After some deliberation, I came to the conclusion that deleting this test wiki is the best course of action. This test wiki looks to be overrun by editors who don't speak the language or know very little of it (some users have even confirmed having low knowledge), and the content itself also looks fairly substandard (several very short articles, several pages having different titles compared to the content, etc.) and the main page looks to be a leftover of the old edits made before around March 2014 that were proven garbage (proof: https://incubator.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamara_Ustinova). Considering the difficulty (and frankly, the near impossibility) of finding proficient speaker contributors to fix the content, I don't think there's a better way out of this. Any comments are welcome. 2001:14BB:AC:B137:E9A3:D15F:7BF2:695F 10:15, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Rather, delete it. It seems that no one who knows the language well has ever appeared in the votWP. It is better to delete it, but not to protect it from creation so that this project can be restarted. Таёжный лес (talk) 18:19, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Delete. It's the same quality as all the other Wikipedias by the same wiki hijackers that have run rampant over the Finno-Ugric language incubator projects. -Yupik (talk) 02:04, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

To be fair, there could be one editor who has done good edits (User:Heinike), but considering they only have a couple mostly minor edits and didn't edit the main page, which is the biggest problem on the wiki and probably can't be deleted without deleting everything else too, deleting the wiki is still the best course of action in my opinion, as it's also unlikely that they could've fixed everything even on the pages they did edit. I'm sorry for not making this clear earlier, as I wasn't the clearest on the issue. It seems like this matter could need more discussion. 2001:14BB:692:ABDE:5CAD:7F9E:F46A:41E6 12:35, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Update on the situation: considering the main page has now been deleted, I do not think there's much reason to keep the rest. 2001:14BB:A4:5F8:E804:E151:9A0A:777F 14:11, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Deleted. --MF-W {a, b} 15:27, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Wp/sjt

This has been deleted already once and now it is back again. The quality is as brilliant as it was the first time and the person doing this is coming up with an orthography for the language even though one doesn't exist. They're also adding this stuff all over Wiktionary and possibly other projects too. There is no feasible community for this, so I think it should be stripped of its eligibility too. No idea how it verified as eligible in the first place and I have no idea how to go about getting it verified uneligible. - Yupik (talk) 02:21, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

• Neutral, this language has only 2 native speakers by a 2010 census, and I doubt whether both are still able to teach or directly participate contributions here. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:29, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

  @Liuxinyu970226: the language doesn't even have an orthography, so there is no possibility of contributing even if those two wanted to. What has been added here is someone's original research. @MF-Warburg: can something be done about this? - Yupik (talk) 09:45, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

deleted and recreation of pages prevented. @User:Yupik: I suggest starting a discussion on the Langcom list about removing the eligibility. It seems like StevenJ81 added it, thinking the request to be uncontroversial. --MF-W {a, b} 23:25, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

vandalism and ad pages in wp/czh

Vandalism Pages created by not huizhou Chinese speakers: Wp/czh/Cuach ì di, Wp/czh/Dop Niueq, Wp/czh/Giuot ì wia biup, Wp/czh/Niuik Ùm, Wp/czh/Niáy ciuok, Wp/czh/Phyì ew u, Wp/czh/Uch yié u, Wp/czh/Yak á ày, Wp/czh/Zuiep àw, Wp/czh/i zú e, Wp/czh/É luiew, Wp/czh/Én et, Wp/czh/Í yuiy,

game ad pages: Wp/czh/仙劍奇俠傳四, Wp/czh/仙劍奇俠傳系列, Wp/czh/柳夢璃, Wp/czh/雲天河--Crystallus0 (talk) 10:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Deleted. Ninja✮Strikers ^«☎» 15:39, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Two incubators in Hmong varieties

Tests in two Hmong varieties should be deleted.

• Wp/hmd - has nothing but a boilerplate main page in English.
• Wp/hmg - has only a main page, which appears to be in a kind of Hmong, but it's very short.

I have no prejudice against those languages. It will be easy to recreate those test wikis if people who can write them turn up. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 02:17, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

@Amire80: Since this one is pretty much obvious (the test projects are practically empty), I'll be deleting them. Iohanen (Garcez) (talk) 03:41, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Done, I've also made the Wp/hmd and Wp/hmg into tocreate pages, if someone ever wants to start them again. Iohanen (Garcez) (talk) 03:47, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Wp/goh

Explained by both rejected RFL and AN discussion, Old High German is a historical language which doesn't in conformity with LPP. As the current form of German is having a continuously developing Wikipedia, there's fully no need to have another copy with a form that deprecated for 900+ years, probably we can ask whether German Wikisource allows import of these contents? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:22, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

It's the same situation as Old Dutch, so I think we need to take the same approach and export it to Incubator Plus. Wikisource won't take it, as these are original texts. --OWTB (talk) 08:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm deleting the numerous pages which contain nothing except an image already. --MF-W {a, b} 08:49, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps you could add a caption in OHG instead? Rich Farmbrough (talk)

I can live with it if it gets deleted. As an Old High German enthusiast I think it's an interesting project, but if almost nobody contributes, it doesn't make much sense anyway. Pergarius (talk) 17:24, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Why don't you move it to Incubator Plus 2.0? Jon Gua (talk) 17:27, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted. Language not eligible, quality of the content questionable --MF-W {a, b} 12:00, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

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Wp/igl and Wp/kus

Wp/igl and Wp/kus have already become separate projects. I propose to delete it from Incubator because all meaningful content from this wikis have already been imported. Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 16:01, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

They were created in April and May, please be patient for August. (But for the same reason, I think Wp/dga, Wp/zgh and Wq/bjn can be? These 3 were created in November of last year) --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:41, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Ok, thank you,

@Liuxinyu970226. I will create another proposal. Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 16:58, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

I think now we can process both now, as well as Wp/bew & Wt/kaa. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:43, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

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Wp/dga, Wq/bjn and Wp/zgh

I propose to remove those wikis from Incubator because they were imported to their own sites and created a long time ago. Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 17:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

cc @Sotiale. I don't think this needs to be requested here. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 02:23, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

I think.. my ping function is not working properly. I checked this and will check and address it in the next few days. --Sotiale (talk) 01:45, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

It looks like it's mostly done. --Sotiale (talk) 02:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, @Sotiale. Could you also delete Wp/igl and wp/kus that were successfully launched in the spring of 2024. Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 19:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

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Wp/kyu

Explained by @Nguyên Hưng Trần:, pages created only by a random set of IP vandals to promote nonsense English translations of other pages. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:14, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Keep, but delete all the pages (except Wp/kyu/ꤒꤟꤢꤧ꤬ꤡꤢꤓꤛꤢ꤬ ꤜꤤ꤬ꤕꤜꤢꤧ꤬ and Wp/kyu/꤂꤀꤂꤄, which are re-translated to Western Kayah by me, using this dictionary). – Nguyên Hưng Trần (talk) 08:25, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

@Nguyên Hưng Trần Why not re-start this project instead? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:31, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226: Hmm... That's a good idea. – Nguyên Hưng Trần (talk) 06:04, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

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Wp/lua

Most of the pages on the project, are small, and look like test page. –TANBIRUZZAMAN (💬) 12:16, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

@Tanbiruzzaman but come on, please, this shouldn’t lead to a quick proposal for deletion of the Wp/lua category because no one said it was over. The project, like all others, is ongoing. We are working on it little by little, even though we lack contributors in this language. Why not observe it for another 3 months? Besides, you’ll see that users come later to do maintenance on articles. After all this time since the project was launched and barely active, you’d rather throw in a shocking comment, perhaps ignoring the efforts made to get to this stage? Thank you, that’s my humble opinion. CapitainAfrika (talk) 20:56, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Bonjour Monsieur,@Tanbiruzzaman

Je vous remercie pour vos remarques. Cependant, je tiens à souligner qu'une décision précipitée ne serait pas judicieuse dans ce contexte. Nous avons mobilisé et sensibilisé une communauté entière de bénévoles, qui ont accepté de participer à ce projet non seulement par engagement, mais aussi parce qu'ils souhaitent promouvoir leurs langues, qui sont souvent minoritaires. En particulier, le Tshiluba, une langue parlée au centre de la République Démocratique du Congo, dans une région confrontée à des défis majeurs tels que l'accès limité à l'électricité et à Internet.

Ces participants se sont investis dans ce projet malgré ces contraintes, et il est essentiel de prendre en compte ces efforts avant toute prise de décision. Il est également important de rappeler que nous n'avons pas encore terminé le projet. Comme pour tout article de Wikipédia, des modifications peuvent encore être apportées. Une équipe est déjà prévue pour assurer le suivi des articles après leur publication afin de garantir leur qualité et leur conformité.

Je crois qu'une réflexion plus approfondie et des discussions concertées seraient bénéfiques pour maintenir l'élan et l'engagement de cette communauté. Shayi ngolu (talk) 21:59, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

That is not a reason for deleting it. This is a small project that is being developed bit by bit. Jon Gua (talk) 06:46, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

The project is highly active, there are many articles, this deletion proposal makes no sense. --MF-W {a, b} 07:44, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Merci pour l'arrêt du processus, nous allons faire le suivi et publier tout les article test Christalia (talk) 09:29, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

There're lot of articles, that's correct, but as I've said most of the articles ar created as test or looks like test pages. However, per CapitainAfrika and Shayi ngolu, I've withdrawn my proposal. –TANBIRUZZAMAN (💬) 08:19, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Bonjour Monsieur , entant que l'une de contributrice de ce projet, le supprimé serait perçu comme un problème personnel que vous avait contre ce projet, a ce que je sache tout les projets ont toujours eu un début difficile , le tshiluba particulièrement est un projet que nous avons à cœur , nous fournissons beaucoup d'effort malgré les difficultés de crées des articles , qui sont selon vous court ou test , pour la simple raison que nous finissons l'article test et l'exportons en articles a publié lorsque nous l'avons fini en se rassurant des sources et toutes les conditions à respecter. alors tant que vous ne donnez pas une raison valable pour supprimer ce projet je considère que vous le faite de manière personnel et cela nous désolerai beaucoup Christalia (talk) 09:16, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

You misunderstood, I've no personal issues with the project. I don’t even understand the language or never contributed to the project. As you can see I've withdrawn my proposal. –TANBIRUZZAMAN (💬) 09:20, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

ok , merci pour l'arrêt du processus, nous allons faire ce suivi et publier tout les articles test , sans rancune en tout ca Christalia (talk) 09:31, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Bjr@Tanbiruzzaman,

Merci pour votre observation, nous sommes une communauté qui vient de naître avec tout les pleines d'un nouveau projet comme vous le savez bien,

En effet, le projet n'etait pas facile a exécuté vu tout le difficulté que traverse notre pays et pas appuie mais nous nous sommes concentre avec nos faibles moyens enfin d'activer ce projet.

Comme, vous le savez nous sommes toujours actifs dans nos projets sur wiki, étant donné que nous sommes au début de avec ce projet nous avons une forte conviction que ce projet évoluera très bien dans le prochain jour le temps que nos communautés lua s'habitue avec, nous vous rassurons que vous serez étonnés de contacte l'évolution.

Merci de donner chance a ce nouveau projet de bien évoluer. Mpoyijeanine (talk) 10:53, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

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Wp/ctg

Given the ongoing disputes and lack of consensus over the use of specialized scripts and orthographic conventions for the Chittagonian Wikipedia project, it is evident that the orthography has not achieved the necessary academic recognition or community agreement to move forward effectively. The disagreements over orthography and language representation, coupled with the lack of standardization and approval, have hindered progress and led to confusion among contributors. Therefore, it is proposed to close the Chittagonian Wikipedia project at this time, with the possibility of reopening it in the future should there be a unified approach and academic validation for the proposed scripts and standards. For additional context, please see the conversation from two years ago: Talk:Wp/ctg/মুল ফাতা. --ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 08:47, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Comment If the users of the Wiki aren't able to reach consensus, why not vote in which orthography/script convention to use? It's more probable that the most used script and orthography will win, so that most speakers will benefit of it. I don't know the actual situation though, but I think this is most recommended.

Also, Wp/ctg hasn't seen enough activity in at least a year, what would be the point of closing (or deleting as this page indicates) it? Iohanen (Garcez) (talk) 20:03, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Given the Chittagonian Wikipedia’s inactivity for years, there’s no active community to vote on orthography or scripts. The CTG script lacks academic backing, and the Bengali script doesn’t fit the language’s needs. With no interest from either community, which community is this project open for, and how is Wikimedia (Langcom) conducting the test, considering the project is essentially abandoned -- ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 05:58, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose A project being abandoned doesn't seem (to me) to be sufficient reason to delete it. Although the script is not fit, lacks academic backing and can't be chosen by now, whenever it is possible to do so, the old content pages may be transferred to this script. There's no need to actually close the project, or even delete it, since this could happen at any point in time.

With that said, I'm still open to opinions ;)

Best regards, Iohanen (Garcez) (talk) 15:19, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per Iohanen. Rich Farmbrough (talk)

Since no other administrator has decided on this until now, I'll mark it as Not done for now. Iohanen (Garcez) (talk) 01:15, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

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Wp/akk

As per the rejected RFL page, having a test project in this extinct language violates LPP, and since there are only selected spam pages created by LTAs, I think just nuke it would be enough, no need to migrate to other websites (e.g. Incubator Plus). --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:15, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Support. There is no point in the existence of this project. Таёжный лес (talk) 19:06, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Deleted. Ninja✮Strikers ^«☎» 03:43, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

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Wp/aer

I deleted the request for this Wikipedia because it was created by a blocked user. There is very little content in the Incubator, and it looks suspect. Unless someone is sure that it's good, it should probably be deleted here. The language is probably eligible, but it should be done by serious people who actually know the language. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 23:24, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Agree to delete, maybe Wb/fur, Wy/fur, Wt/lvk and Wt/tet are likely. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:56, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Deleted Ninja✮Strikers ^«☎» 03:50, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

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Wp/kjg

No content whatsoever. Just an invitation to contribute on the "main page" in English, Lao, French, and Hmong, and the user who created doesn't seem to know the language and doesn't reply to questions. It's better to start from scratch. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 16:54, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Neutral, 708,000 in Laos, 90,600 in Vietnam, 10,600 in Thailand... Can't we find an expert in the affected area for developing contributors' community? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:52, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Done. Iohanen (Garcez) (talk) 21:35, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

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Wp/plk

Nothing but a "main page" with several invalid templates. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 17:05, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Support. In addition, these templates are written in Urdu. Таёжный лес (talk) 19:38, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Neutral there are 477,000 speakers and it's increasing, same situation on kls. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:55, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Done. Iohanen (Garcez) (talk) 21:41, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

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Wt/dcr

Project in an extinct language, with all articles written in English. Wp/dcr has already been deleted. Таёжный лес (talk) 18:18, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Support - Per nom. Wheatley2 (talk) 04:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Done. Iohanen (Garcez) (talk) 21:29, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

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Wp/myr

There are only two pages there, made by the same user, and I strongly suspect that all the content there is not actually in this language, but simply a mix of English words and gibberish pretending to be this language. The same user also made a few contributions to the Russian Wikipedia and disappeared. I suspect that the proposal on Meta and the whole Wp/myr incubator is a hoax. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 11:53, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete, more likely there is 0% of these two articles in this language. They've apparently just taken random letters and used them, because the alphabet here on page 6 states this is the alphabet used with the language:

a, ch, ç, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, ky, l, m, n, ñ, p, r, s, sh, t, ts, tz, u, ü, w, y, zh, '

The same alphabet is used in other documents by this project[1][2].

The Peruvian government states it doesn't even have an official alphabet in "El pueblo no cuenta con un alfabeto oficial por el Ministerio de Educación." and "A la fecha, la lengua muniche no cuenta con un alfabeto oficializado por el Ministerio de Educación ni es usada en instituciones educativas EIB." But this states: "Alfabeto oficial – Se encuentra en proceso de normalización." This latter source has a wealth of information on the sociolinguistic situation of the language and its speakers.

Here are some links to other Munichi resources:[3][4]

- Yupik (talk) 22:05, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete, as there are no L1 speakers living per Ethnologue, there's no hope that somebody can contribute it seriously. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:21, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Deleted. Ninja✮Strikers ^«☎» 14:18, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

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Wp/nio

For 15 years of its existence, in the project hasn't been written even a single article in Nganasan. There are only three one-word pages in the project — Колё, Муӈку and Бăӈ, as well as a page Холё consisting of five words of gibberish. The main page is written half in Russian, half in English. Таёжный лес (talk) 04:51, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Tend to delete, has only 50 native speakers, so I don't strongly hope that there could have a serious contributor from em. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:23, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Deleted. Ninja✮Strikers ^«☎» 14:16, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

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Wp/chk/Main Page

No meanful contents, probably a graffiti page about their spam plans, the RFL page for its language used has also deleted recently. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 13:32, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Indeed, this should be deleted. There is nothing there. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 05:07, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Deleted. Ninja✮Strikers ^«☎» 14:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

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Wn/mnc, Wy/mnc, Wb/gld, Wb/oaa, Wb/ulc, Wb/evn, Wb/neg, Wb/orh, Wb/oac and Wb/ude

Per above section, the creator said to withdraw these placeholder only pages which that user currently don't have interests in starting projects. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:02, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Support deletion. Таёжный лес (talk) 06:53, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete. MiiCii 05:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Deleted. Ninja✮Strikers ^«☎» 14:08, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

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