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Hello, I was going to ask you something. What do you mean hello in Selkup?

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Ressources pour le selkoupe (Селькупский язык)[edit source]

Bonjour, Je viens d'Autriche et je suis très intéressé par les langues de Sibérie, en particulier les langues samoyèdes. Si ça ne te dérange pas, j'aimerais te demander des choses à propos du selkoupe, car je n'ai vraiment que trop peu d'informations. Parmi les questions que je me pose, plusieurs concernent les dialectes/langues selkoupes, car chaque source semble se contredire : le plus souvent, j'ai vu qu'il existait les dialectes de Taz, de Tym et de Ket, mais je ne suis pas sûr que cette subdivision est la bonne. Ensuite, quel est (à peu près) le nombre de locuteurs de chaque dialecte/langue selkoupe ? On peut faire de bonnes estimations pour les langues nénètses, l'énètse ou le nganassane, mais pas vraiment pour le selkoupe. Je te remercie par avance pour tes réponses. -Maxi PS: Hélas, je ne parle ni russe ni français, donc un ami m'a aidé à traduire ma requête. J'espère que tu peux la comprendre. --Q Maxi p (talk) 20:59, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean hello in selkup? Tavukluköy 2 (talk) 18:23, 26 August 2020 (UTC

It's торо́ва in Narym Southern Selkup (let it even be after 3,5 years). Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 14:25, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Geographic names in Selkup language[edit source]

Grigoriy Korotkih I will continue the discussion on your talk page, since you replied to me. An identical thing happened some time ago on the Khakas Wikipedia, when a contributor decided it was a great idea to make the names of the countries more similar to their original names, so Hungary became "Магйарорсааг", Germany became "Йарманхан", Austria became "Ӧстарайх" and so on. The explanation of this contributor was that they intend to propose spelling changes in the Khakas language, and to cite as an example their work on the Khakas test-Wikipedia. I explained to them that the work on any wikipedia must be based on the existing and verified spelling rules, which are approved by the competent linguistic institutions for their language, because if the established language rules are not followed, every participant in the future could work according to his own discretion. This means that if the names of those countries, cities, rivers and so on are not common and used in the dictionaries of twenty, thirty or fifty years ago since there was literacy in a given language, they should not be changed at their own discretion in the present. I have not noticed the rules of adaptation of geographical names that you are talking about in any wikipedia in the languages of the peoples of Russia, except for a few exceptions between territorially neighboring peoples who have their own names for neighboring nations, different from Russian names. I understand that you want to de-Russify the Selkup language, but it seems to me that your way is very arbitrary and may cause problems for some future participants of the project. For example, the Volga River has a dozen names in the different languages spoken in its basin, and the similarities between the Mari and Selkup languages are so minimal that one can hardly speak of any similarity, except for a common Uralic origin. According to that logic, you could also take the Erzian or Udmurt name for the Volga, considering that they are similar to Selkup as much as the Mari language. The same story is with Nizhny Novgorod, since Obran Osh is a historical and anachronistic name that even Erzians no longer use for that city. Following your logic of adaptation, the name from the Mari language could also be taken - Ugarman. Regarding the Selkup names of Sweden, Alaska, Belarus, Australia, St. Petersburg, I'm just curious if those de-Russified names also appear in Selkup dictionaries from a few decades ago, or is this a recent practice? I personally worked on the Mansi wikipedia, and read online newspapers in this language, and noticed that the geographical names for countries and distant cities are identical to Russian names, as in most Finno-Ugric wikipedias. The Mansi language has its own names for neighboring peoples such as Khanty, Nenets, Tatars, Komi, but there are no special and specific names for states, cities and peoples with which this people did not have historical contacts and connections. The Mansi people have their own names for rivers such as the Ob, the Irtysh, or the Ural Mountains, because it is their native territory, but the names for rivers that are far from them are identical to the Russian language, because all Mansi, as well as the Selkups, are bilingual. Selkups live in central-west Siberia, which is thousands of kilometers away from Sweden and Alaska, why do you think that the names for these territories must be different than their names in Mansi, Khakas, Karelian or Tatar languages? Don't misunderstand my criticism, your work on Selkup Wikipedia is excellent and to be commended, considering how few people are interested in endangered languages in Russia. I'm just afraid that you may have problems in the future with the eventual approval of wikipedia, because I don't think the Incubator is a place to experiment with language, especially not with an endangered minority language like Selkup language. To me personally, those geographic names look unusual, if you take into account the language rules and customs on other wikipedias in Finno-Ugric languages. I am not a linguist, nor an expert in the Selkup language, it is up to you to decide how you will work on this wikipedia, I cannot influence that, I just want to point out some flaws to you, so that your work is not in vain.--PatrickDubois125 (talk) 19:55, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

hello. Can I help you with working on the Selkup or Mansi Wikipedia. I don't know these languages but I can create templates and modules. Пан Хаунд (talk) 13:13, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Till now I only have some expirience of making municipal districts templates: 1, 2.
We seemingly need to configure the reference template, because now it doesn't work correctly.
I'm also thinking to start Selkup Wiktionary in Incubator and here I'd obviously need help with templates because 1) the Wiktionary article composition itself is based on templates 2) there are declension and conjugation templates 3) Wiktionary articles can be created somehow automatically.
Briefly, I'm not a coder and I don't know much about templates and modules, but I'll be glad to cooperate. :)
Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 15:16, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Пан Хаунд if your proposition remains actual I would also ask you to help us to make an authomatical upload of the articles from Russian Wikipedia into Selkup Incubator about all geographical objects and administrative units of Tomsk region. We can prepare some models of the articles about rivers, actual and abandonned villages, municipal administrations etc, I will give Selkup geographical names (if there are any) and translate the text of the module. (Or how we can name it.) So we will have like some hundreds of new articles.
Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 10:04, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. The proposition is still actual. I can help you with making templates or modules but I can't make an authomatical upload of articles from one wiki to another (I don't know how to do it). And, if it's not a problem, I'm not working with ruwiki because of war in my country. But I can use english wiki or polish wiki. Пан Хаунд (talk) 10:39, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. So what kind of templates and modules can you make? I saw you made some in Selkup incubator but I have no idea what it's for, sorry, I'm dumb in coding. Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 10:45, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So do i. I make duplicate s of templates from one wikis and adapt it to another wikis.)) But I can make it. Пан Хаунд (talk) 11:02, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
i can make such templates: Template:Wp/sel/Infobox (done)
Template:Wp/sel/documentation (in progress).
And others.
Like Template:Wp/syl/Country data Ukraine. Пан Хаунд (talk) 11:05, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
+ you must enable Selkup lang in translatewiki: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/;
https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:FirstSteps. Пан Хаунд (talk) 11:09, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
https://codelookup.toolforge.org/sel Пан Хаунд (talk) 11:12, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Here you must translate Most important messages to get a wiki.~~~ Пан Хаунд (talk) 11:12, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Grigoriy Korotkih + to have the wiki created you have to create a community of 3+ people who awill work on the test wiki every month and make 35-40+ articles every month. 2. Also you have to create s request for creating your wiki on meta:Requests for new languages. If all the requirements for wiki are done, meta: Language committee will verify it as eligible. And after 7-8 months of active work on wiki, meta: Language committee will take a look at your wiki and may create it. Пан Хаунд (talk) 15:27, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Grigoriy Korotkih. Hello. How are you? Do you have any new ideas how can I help you? Пан Хаунд (talk) 16:48, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, actually I don't because I still have no idea what modules and templates you are talking about. Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 07:33, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Translation request[edit source]

Hi, could you please translate this to Selkup?

Язык глоса является созданным вспомагательным языком разработанным для международного сообщения.

Thank you for your help. --Jon Gua (talk) 10:50, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!
Гло́са шэ – пялдэмбэ́л ме́льчембэл шэ ҷвэ́ҷэко́дэл ӄулва́лҗэтӄо.
I love auxlangs so I'm glad to help! :) Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 11:16, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much. Would you be able to translate the rest, please?
У этого языка есть несколько особенности:
  • У него есть постоянное произношение, и правописание - фонетическое.
  • Структура очень проста и основана на значении.
  • Этот язык является аналитическим языком без склонений и родов. Только немного слов занимается грамматическими отношениями.
  • Язык глоса, прежде всего, нейтральный и действительно международный из-за использования латинских и греческих корней использованных в международных научных словах.
Jon Gua (talk) 17:45, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
На шэп на́тӄо кольче́шпат:
. На́ӷэт о́ӄӄэрта́рэл ҷэ́нҷэдэ ай хӧ́вэҷэдэл (фонэ́тэл) та́дэна́гэр э̄к.
. Тарфа́т фаӈ коштэнда́ ай э́җэт пуҗӧ́утэ ме́мба.
. На толӷунҗэндэ́л (анали́дэл) шэ му́нэдэгалк ай та́мдэргалк э̄к. Аӄо́ а́гочкак эҗ крама́җел ко́дэутэ э̄ква.
. Гло́са шэ, му́ндэл няннэ́ӷэт, нейтра́л ай са́быль ҷвэ́ҷэко́дэл э̄к, на́тӄо лачи́нэл ай кре́ӄӄэл ко́нҗла ҷвэ́ҷэко́дэл о̄ӷолҗэл э́җлаӷэт э̄кумэндат.
I'll be also glad if you translate a short description of my language into Glosa and also post it to the Glosa wiki wherever it's hosted:
Southern Selkup language is the language of the indigenous population of the Middle Ob basin. It's spoken in Tomsk region, Western Siberia. Genetically it's of the Uralic family, Samoyedic group and Southern Samoyedic subgroup. It's polycentric: there are 5 dialectal groups (one of them went extinct poorly fixed) and 3 slightly different Cyrillic written systems for different dialects. Southern Selkup language has faced language shift but now the middle age of speakers gets lower because of the language activism. Still <10 people can speak it fully, but around 50 people can read, translate and produce written texts.
I hope it's not too long or complicated. I'd be also happy to get acquainted with the Glosa wiki! Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 23:10, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm also open to other translations. Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 23:11, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Thank you so much for your translation. I created an article here and I added your translation here. The article you asked me to do is on the Glosa Wiki. The language doesn't have an ISO code so I cannot create a wiki here. I wanted to ask you how do you say "Southern Selkup" in Southern Selkup because I found these glottonyms but I believe they are just for Selkup (чу́мэл шэ, тюйкуй келл, шё̄шӄуй шэ̄, сӱ̄ссыӷӯй сэ̄, шöйӄумый эты). If you could translate this list of words, it would be great (could you please substitute the text in English for the Selkup translation?):

Glosa Selkup
U mura The wall. A wall.
Un avi. Plu avi. A bird. The birds.
Ci. La. Here. There.
U-ci. U-la. This. That.
Plu-ci. Plu-la. These. Those.
Fe stude. She studies
Fe nu stude. She is (now) studying.
Fe pa stude. She studied. (Past tense)
Fe fu stude. She will study. (Future tense)
Fe pa du stude. She was studying. (Duration)
Fe pa fu kanta. She was going to sing.
Fe fu pa stude. She will have studied.
Fe nu-pa sedi. She has just sat down.
Fe nu-fu kanta. She is just going to sing.
Mi nece ki. I must go. (NECEssary)
Mi debi ki. I should, ought to go.
Mi sio dice. I would speak. (Conditional)
An ne pote kanta. He cannot sing. (Negative)
Poli bibli. Zero bibli. Many books. No books.
Zero-ra. Zero-pe. Nothing. Nobody.
Mi ne amo id. I don’t like it.
Mi zero amo id! I don’t like it at all!
No-, non- Opposites
Alti. Non-alti. Mega. No-mega. High. Low. Big. Small.
Qe fe fu stude? Will she study? (QUEstion)
Qe fe pa kanta? Did she sing?
Qe id es posi de …? Is it possible to…..?
Qo acide ci? What’s happening here?
Qo horo? What time is it?
Tu pa vide qo-pe? Who did you see?
Qo-ka tu pa ki? Why (what Cause) did you go?
Qo-te tu pa ki? Why (what inTEntion) did you go?
Ma alo mei. More or less.
Ma tem e mei ergo. More time and less work.
U-ci domi habe ma kamera de u-la. This house has more rooms than that one.
U-ci dendro ne es iso alti de plu-la. This tree is not as tall as those ones.
Preci. Ma-preci. Price, cost. More expensive.
U maxi preci. The most expensive.
Mei preci. U mini preci. Cheaper. The cheapest.
Ma de deka. Mei de centi . More than ten. Less than 100.
Mi pa gene u grama. I received (got) the letter.
Id gene termo. It’s getting hot.
Id pa gene frakti. It got broken.
Id es ge-frakti. It is broken.
Ge-termo. Heated.
U ju-fe lava se nu. The girl washes herself now.
Fe vide se in specula. She sees herself in the mirror.
Mu auxi alelo. The help each other.
Mu pa skope ad alelo. They looked at each other.
Fe auto pa akusti id. She herself heard it.
Anti-co. However, nevertheless,…but…
Para-co, qe tu pa vide fe? By the way, did you see her?
Sti. Make, cause. Switch on.
Sto. Stop. Switch off.
Sti rubi. Sti ride Make red. Make laugh.

Thank you for your help. --Jon Gua (talk) 06:17, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another thing. I just revised the articles created in Selkup and I wanted to ask you whether you need help with the Wikipedia in Selkup. I don't speak the language but I can help you creating simple templates and asking you to translate short texts while I do the rest. You would only need to translate. Jon Gua (talk) 06:33, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have created a template for countries, which you can see here being used. Jon Gua (talk) 06:44, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speaking about templates. I've already had a (dead end) talk about it with Пан Хаунд above. We already do have pages about rivers and settlements of Tomsk region. As well as the country template it would be useful to have templates for villages/towns, rural/town administrations, districts and rivers. Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 20:20, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I took a look and edited the articles a bit. Can you make a google spreadsheet with these phrases plz? It'd be extremely convenient for me. About the templates I'll write some later, I need to figure it out. Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 16:06, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
May I have your gmail to share the document, please? Jon Gua (talk) 16:14, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
korotkihgrigoriy@gmail.com Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 16:46, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 05:31, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How do you say "How does Glosa work?" in Selkup? Jon Gua (talk) 07:05, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ӄанду́к Гло́са у́җя? Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 08:23, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, how would you say:
  • List of articles all languages should have
  • Biographies
  • Philosophy and psychology
  • Religion
  • World view and religion
  • Social sciences
  • Language and literature
  • Science
  • Technology
  • Arts and recreation
  • History and geography
Jon Gua (talk) 10:11, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
· List of articles all languages should have – Ка́жнэл шэ́ӷэт ке́лемнэл на́гэрлага́ла няннэ́ моӷо́ӷэт
· Biographies - Элна́гэрла
· Philosophy and psychology – Филохо́ӈ (на́дэрӄэ́дэ) ай хиӷо́л
· Religion - Кӓ́ттэфат
· World view and religion – Ҷвэ́ҷэт ӄо́нҗэр ай кӓ́ттэфат
· Social sciences – Ҷа́ҷҷэл о́ӷолҗла
· Language and literature – Шэ ай тортына́грэфат
· Science – О́ӷолҗ
· Technology – Тэӷно́л
· Arts and recreation – Ӄвеҗефа́т ай а́ндэлҗэдэ
· History and geography – Ир ай ҷвэ́ҷэна́гэр Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 10:44, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, could you please translate this?
  • Actors, dancers and models
  • Artists and architects
  • Authors, playwrights and poets
  • Composers and musicians
  • Explorers and travelers
  • Film directors and screenwriters
  • Inventors, scientists and mathematicians
  • Philosophers and social scientists
  • Political leaders
  • Religious figures and theologians
  • Family and relationships
  • Politics
  • Business and economics
  • Law
  • International organizations
  • War and military
  • Social issues
  • Astronomy
  • Biology
  • Biological processes
  • Anatomy
  • Health and medicine
  • Organisms
  • Chemistry
  • Earth science
  • Physics
  • Measurement and units
  • Timekeeping
  • Foodstuffs
  • Beverages
  • Mathematics
Jon Gua (talk) 10:51, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
First of all, a correction of technology: Тэӷно́лҗ
· Actors, dancers and models – Ха́нҗэртэл, меша́лбэл ай шэрта́лҗэл ӄу́ла
· Artists and architects – Ню́рмэрбэл ай а̄налҗэӷэлдэл ӄу́ла
· Authors, playwrights and poets – На́гэрӷу́ла, ха́нҗэна́гэрӷу́ла ай ӄвэ́лҗуттэл ӄу́ла (пэ̄дла)
· Composers and musicians Ӄэ́мбэрхат нагре́шпэдэл ай ха́нҗэртэл ӄу́ла
· Explorers and travelers – Манҗӧ́ӷомбэл ай ӄӧ́шӄэдэл ӄу́ла
· Film directors and screenwriters – Фи́льмэт варӷо́лла ай ви́җӧнагэрӷу́ла
· Inventors, scientists and mathematicians – Тӓ́рбэмбэл, о́ӷолҗэмбэл ай то́рҗэл ӄу́ла
· Philosophers and social scientists – Фило́хоӷэл (на́дэрӄэ́дэл) ай ҷаҷо́ӷолҗэл ӄу́ла
· Political leaders – Ӄура́лҗ-ма́нҗэл (полити̇́кэл) ӄу́ла
· Religious figures and theologians – Кӓ́тэдэл ай нултӓ́нэл ӄу́ла
· Family and relationships – Чарҗе́ ай квэнд
· Politics – Ӄура́лҗ-манҗ (полити̇́ка)
· Business and economics – Тэм ай ӄомдэӄӧ́шӄ
· Law - Шӱндэфа́т
· International organizations – Ҷвэ́ҷэӄо́дэл органҗя́ла
· War and military – Мӧд ай мӧ́дэҷэгу
· Social issues – Ҷа́ҷҷэл ӄулмы́ла
· Astronomy – Кышкато́рҗ
· Biology - Эло́лҗ
· Biological processes – Эло́лҗэл ҷаҗ
· Anatomy – Ӄа́бэт тарха́т
· Health and medicine – Челома́р ай и́мҗэ
· Organisms - Элӄа́бла
· Chemistry – Тэдэтӓ́н (хи́мҗэ)
· Earth science – Ҷвэ́ҷэт о́ӷолҗ
· Physics – Шарэмо́ (фи́ӽиӈ)
· Measurement and units – Ма́нҗэла ай ма́нҗэт хай
· Timekeeping - Парма́нҗ
· Foodstuffs – Ӄай амгу́
· Beverages – Ӄай ӱдэгу́
· Mathematics – Тоӷолҗэтӓ́н Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 15:31, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please translate this?

  • Communication
  • Electronics
  • Computers and Internet
  • Energy and fuels
  • Materials
  • Transportation
  • Weapons
  • Ӄвеҗефа́т ай а́ндэлҗэдэ
  • Architecture and civil engineering
  • Film, radio and television
  • Music
  • Recreation
  • Prehistory and ancient world
  • Middle Ages and Early Modern
  • Modern
  • Geography
  • Continents and major regions
  • Countries
  • Cities
  • Bodies of water
  • Mountains and deserts

--Jon Gua (talk) 16:00, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

HI, I've seen that you have edited pages written in other Russian languages. Do you speak any other languages besides Russian and Selkup which you would like to create a Wikipedia in? Jon Gua (talk) 17:40, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, from the Wikimedia languages I know a bit of Northern Mansi, Evenki and Negidal, the last two are very close to each other. But I know only the basics and translation would take much effort. I studied Northern Mansi grammar deeply for a year but now my level is very low. So let's stay on S.Selkup. I'll translate the next set of phrases some later. Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 17:54, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
· Communication — Ӄайӽе́ кулва́тпэгу
· Electronics — Ти̇́җэтэл мы
· Computers and Internet — Тоӷолҗаквэ́ла ай интэрнэ́т
· Energy and fuels — Шаӈ ай тӱн аб
· Materials — Ӄайӽе́ ме́мба
· Transportation — Ҷаҗ
· Weapons — Ӄва́ҷэдэл мы́ла
· Ӄвеҗефа́т ай а́ндэлҗэдэ — Art and recreation
· Architecture and civil engineering — Ма̄тумдэ́ ай мӧ́дӷэдэл энҗэнэ́рдэ
· Film, radio and television — Фи́льмо, ра́җӧ ай ти̇ви̇
· Music — Ӄэ́мбэрха
· Recreation — А́ндэлҗэдэ
· Prehistory and ancient world
· Middle Ages and Early Modern
· Modern — Тапче́л
· Geography — Ҷвэ́ҷэна́гэр
· Continents and major regions — Хӓ́ӈӷла ай ва́рӷэмбэл ӄа́дэрла
· Countries — Кола́мола
· Cities — Ӄва́ҷла
· Bodies of water — Ӱ́дэл пу́җьла
· Mountains and deserts — Танба́рла ай шӱндэмо́ла Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 20:15, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Could you please write a short country about Russia and another one about Moscow? Jon Gua (talk) 20:42, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, how do you say this in Selkup:
Country
Federal district
Economic region
Administrative center
Siberian Federal District
West Siberian economic region

Jon Gua (talk) 20:49, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added a template here. Jon Gua (talk) 11:25, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Could you please translate the words above? Jon Gua (talk) 10:30, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, sorry for late answers
Country — Ҷвэҷ
Federal district — Фе́җерал айма́ӄ
Economic region — Ӄомдэӄӧ́шӄэдэл ӄа́дэр
Administrative center — Ӄа́ӷалҗэдэл ха́лӷы
Siberian Federal District — Хиби́рел Фе́җерал Айма́ӄ
West Siberian economic region — Ня́ккэлпеле́кал Хиби́рел ӄомдэӄӧ́шӄэдэл ӄа́дэр Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 12:24, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, could you please translate this?
  • Каргасо́к (в переводе с селькупского — «Медвежий Мыс») — село (до 1992 — посёлок городского типа) в Томской области, административный центр Каргасокского района и Каргасокского сельского поселения.
  • Prehistory and ancient world
  • Middle Ages and Early Modern
  • Modern history
Jon Gua (talk) 13:50, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm making the article for Russia, then I'll write about Kargasok. Btw the only article about a rural administration is Kargasok one. The system is region (oblast) - district (raion) - rural/town administration. Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 14:05, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wp/sel/Ӄорӷэтсоӄ -- Kargasok
Prehistory and ancient world — Ирт ҷанҗ э̄ндэл пара́ ай и́рэл ҷвэҷ
Middle Ages and Early Modern — Шэ́дэго́дэл Пара́ ай По́рэл Тапче́лэл Пара́
Modern history — Тапче́лэл ир Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 15:07, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How do you say:
  • Countries
  • Europe
  • Continents
Jon Gua (talk) 15:10, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Countries — Ҷвэ́ҷэла
Europe — Эвро́па
Continents — Хӓ́ӈӷла Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 15:21, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I wanted to ask you whether the Bible has been translated to Selkup. Jon Gua (talk) 16:43, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, for sure. Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 16:50, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are there any excerpts of the Bible in Selkup? Jon Gua (talk) 16:53, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've just found a short quotation in Taz Northern and also there is psalm 22 in Middle Ket Southern. Both of them are far from Narym Southern which is used here. Northern is a completely separate language. Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 17:02, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the link. Is there any literature written in Selkup? Jon Gua (talk) 17:04, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not much, but
Южноселькупский справочник — Selkup.fu-lab.ru (the headline "Книги" -- "Books") Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 17:09, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, would you be able to create an article about this person? Jon Gua (talk) 17:12, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Probably not today, but that's doable, I'll make it. Btw, can you create templates for municipal districts, local administrations, settlements and rivers as well as you did for states and Russian regions? That would be really useful. Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 17:20, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How do you say:
  • Municipal district
  • Federal subject
  • Population
  • Density
  • Local administration
  • Settlement
  • River
  • Language
  • Spoken in
  • Area
  • Number of speakers
  • Family
  • Official status
  • Official language of
  • Regulated by
  • Codes
  • Map
Jon Gua (talk) 06:14, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
At last I did it:
·        Municipal district — Му́нишпэл айма́ӄ
·        Federal subject — Не́ӷэкола́мол
·        Population — Ӄу́лат коч
·        Density — Чопт
·        Local administration
·        Settlement — Варгамо́
·        River — Кы
·        Language — Шэ
·        Spoken in — Ӄа́йӷэт кулва́тпадэт
·        Area — Ӄа́дэр
·        Number of speakers — Ӄулва́тпэл ӄу́лат коч
·        Family — Чарҗе́
·        Official status — Ӄоштра́лҗ
·        Official language of — Ӄоштра́лҗэндэл шэ
·        Regulated by — Ӄа́галҗэшпа
·        Codes — Шӧна́грэфат (codes of laws)
·        Map — Ҷвэ́ҷэна́гэр
and Geography should be Ҷвэҷ-понта́р instead Grigoriy Korotkih (talk) 21:03, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]