User talk:Amara-Amaziɣ

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Demande d'aide de traduction[edit]

Salut Monsieur Amara-Amaziɣ !

Pouvez-vous svp m'aider à traduire cet article en Amazighe Standard Marocain?

Votre aide sera très avec reconnaissance appréciée, Merci beaucoup. --Philip J (talk) 23:11, 3 October 2015 (UTC)


That was all fine, and thank you for the edits. Just one thing to keep in mind: The English language renderings of the language names link to articles on English Wikipedia. And so a couple of things have to happen all at once:

  • Policy on English Wikipedia is that names used are the most common name in English sources.
  • Policy here is that if you prefer a different version of the name (say, a preferred endonym), that's completely fine.
  • We don't want to break the link to the enwiki article.

It turned out that you broke one link. See the change I made; the parameter |article=... always lets you preserve the link, even if you change the name. Thanks for your understanding going forward. StevenJ81 (talk) 22:43, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

@StevenJ81: Thanks for your message. Indeed, I was making sure not to break any link, but I ended up breaking Tashelhit language link unexpectedly. I don't know why exactly, because I made sure that Tashelhit redirects to the article of this language. I also corrected the link of tzm that was linking to the major Amazigh language, while it's about Central Atlas Amazigh. This may be the reason why tzm wikipedia test was used as Standard moroccan Amazigh. I also preferred endonyms as you noticed. Thanks for letting me know about the parameter |article=.... --Amara-Amaziɣ (talk) 14:38, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Requests for deletions[edit]

Hi, Amara-Amaziɣ.

I went through the ones from rif so far, but not the ones from shi. Among the ones from rif, I deleted some and reversed some. I agree that the ones you asked to have deleted didn't look meaningful. But they do have incoming links. So those links need to be redirected somewhere else before I can delete those pages. Please also look through the requests from shi to check for incoming links (use ⧼What links here⧽ to check) before requesting page deletions. Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:36, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

@StevenJ81: Thanks for your clarification, and for the What links here tip, I never knew this tool. So I did as you said, checking whether the pages in shi have incoming links or not, and I canceled some requests, until I fix their content. But one thing is sure, and that is shi needs one hell of a cleaning; none meaningful content, poor language, poor translations, bad grammar, bad orthography... You name it. It is chaos right here. My mission is to restructurate shi. --Amara-Amaziɣ (talk) 19:59, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
That's a worthy mission. I'll help as I can. To help me help you, please remember the following:
  • Don't replace content with the delete template, just add the template to the top. I need to be able to see the current content, and prefer not to need the extra step it takes to go to the page history to see it.
  • If you think a page is salvageable but needs a new name, move it and fix it, instead of rewriting it. We prefer to keep intact edit histories when possible.
  • Please review criteria for speedy deletion. That a page is too short is not by itself a reason to delete; it can eventually be lengthened. If the language is incorrect, if the page is junk, or just a test, that's a different matter, and the line between the two isn't always obvious. Fixing is usually a better first option, but if you feel you need to start over, then do that.
  • If a page doesn't fit the criteria for speedy deletion, nominate it for deletion at I:RFD instead. Or get a second opinion from another Incubator contributor active in Amazigh tests; if you get a second opinion and agree a page needs to be rebuilt from scratch, I'll go along with that.
Thank you for being willing to fix this project! StevenJ81 (talk) 03:24, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


I didn't roll it back, but it's best to leave archive pages alone. StevenJ81 (talk) 22:25, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Two pages in "Help" user space[edit]

Hi, Amara-Amaziɣ:

In June, you moved a couple of pages into Help: namespace:

On Incubator, only Incubator help pages go into Help: namespace. Project help pages go into mainspace. So please move as follows (either option):

  • [[Wp/zgh/Help:ⵉⵍⵙ ⵏ ⵢⵉⵙⵎ]]
  • [[Wp/zgh/Help:ⵜⵓⵎⴰⵢⵉⵏ]]


  • [[Wp/zgh/local word for Help:ⵉⵍⵙ ⵏ ⵢⵉⵙⵎ]]
  • [[Wp/zgh/local word for Help:ⵜⵓⵎⴰⵢⵉⵏ]]

Many thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:08, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

@StevenJ81: I have just read your message. Bien compris. I'm gonna proceed with that soon. Amara-Amaziɣ (talk) 14:31, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Done. Amara-Amaziɣ (talk) 22:58, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Deletion requests ("Wiktionary content")[edit]

Did you copy such pages into the Wiktionary test? StevenJ81 (talk) 13:28, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

@StevenJ81: No I didn't. In my estimation, it isn't worth being moved to the Wiktionary test. There aren't many translations, and they are very poor ones anyway. Sorry for replacing the content with the delete template, instead of adding it in the top, I forgot what you've told me, I'll keep it in my mind next time. Amara-Amaziɣ (talk) 14:25, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
OK. Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:28, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Wp/shi/timura imsuwutan[edit]

Hi! :) I can't delete this page (yet). The reason you cited was "ambiguous title", however, it is still linked from a massive number of pages. Please make sure these links are fixed/removed, so this page won't be created again. --OWTB (talk) 08:57, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks. Amara-Amaziɣ (talk) 23:01, 28 July 2018 (UTC)


Similar issue with this one. You cited "author request", but there are still a lot of incoming links (Special:WhatLinksHere/Wp/shi/Tifinaɣ). That having been said, in this case I would strongly recommend doing the following:

  • Fix all links on mainspace pages (and in templates and categories).
  • Because (a) this page also has a lot of incoming links from user talk pages, and the Tamazight-script version of the page name might make no sense on those talk pages, and (b) this page has a pretty extensive editing history, it would be much better to turn it into a redirect instead of deleting it. (Consider en:WP:Redirects are cheap.) To do so, make the page itself look like this:
Note: this redirect should not be deleted, due to (a) page history retention and (b) incoming links from user talk pages.

The note below the redirect won't affect the functioning of the redirect. But do fix the incoming links first.
Ping if you have any questions. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:55, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Totally right! That was stupid of me. Even if you had deleted the page, I would have created another one with the same name that redirects to Wp/shi/ⵜⵉⴼⵉⵏⴰⵖ. I guess I was being impulsive. Thanks. Amara-Amaziɣ (talk) 19:09, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

NP. As for Category:Wp/shi/Idγarn Lmrruk, there is a cross-namespace incoming link from Wp/shi/Wikipedia:Amawal, and I can't really guess how you'd like it handled. StevenJ81 (talk) 21:34, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Participation To Wiki Arabia 2019 in Tarfaya[edit]

Azul fellak si Amara,

I hope that you are well and everything is good with you. As you might know, we are hosting WikiArabia conference 2019 in the city of Tarfaya. the theme of the conference will be about "Wikimedia and the local communities", which gives a special focus to the local culture and languages. We have noticed that you are very active in Tamazight Wikipedia in the incubator, and we really would like you encourage you to apply to participate to the conference. Your participation can be useful to inspire the Moroccan participants in editing in their Moroccan languages as well. If you think this is interesting, please send your application to the following link:

If you live in Morocco, please contact me also on my talk page so that I can register you to the conference. If you have any further questions, please just let me know and I will support you.

Best regards,

Anass Sedrati (talk) 13:17, 5 November 2018 (UTC)


Azul i marra , nec d Milouda zi Ait bouayac, aqayi da bac n sufeɣ Tarifit zi incubator. tanemmirt‪

@Miluntuya: Azul Miluda, mux tellid? D wa i yellan Test Wikipedia n trifiyt: Wp/rif/Tasna tamezwarut. Tcejjaɛeɣ-cem s waṭṭas ḥma ad tarid s trifiyt deg Wikipedia. Necc ssneɣ i grammar, uca zemreɣ a'cem-ɛawneɣ di tirra, maca ur lliɣ bu d arifiy am cemm; necc d asusiy. Wah ssneɣ ad ssiwleɣ tarifiyt, maca ur ɣari bu style i yellan ɣar irifiyen, i ɣar tella trifiyt d awal amezwaru. Mala ɣarm ca n useqsi, seqsi. Ttqadareɣ-cem. Amara-Amaziɣ (talk) 23:19, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Tanimmert i cek, nec xseɣ ad ariɣ s tarifit maca ur ssineɣ la gramatica,maca zmreɣ ad lemdeɣ. ass nek icna.

Deletion of Wp/shi/ⵏⵓⵎⵉⴷⵢⴰ[edit]

Please fix incoming links first. Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:39, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

@StevenJ81: This page was not for deletion, sir. Amara-Amaziɣ (talk) 14:34, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Convert to tamazight[edit]

AZul fllak, is trit yan web site da gis tkonvertit text latin s tifinagh Mazighstan (talk) 08:59, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

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