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Waste of Wikimedia money by russian nationalist vandals[edit]

It is well-known, that Wikipedia in so-called "Padonki" pseudo-language is denied by community: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Denied#Padonki_.2831_support.2C_27_oppose.29

So may we know, when they will cease to waste money of Wikimedia Foundation and use incubator disk space for their test "wikipedia"? When this mockery at East-Slavonic Languages will be stopped at last? When they will cease to write in criminal nationalistic slang in international Wikipedia?

--Yaroslav Zolotaryov 12:55, 20 October 2006 (UTC) The voting is transferred to : http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incubator:Test_deletion --Yaroslav Zolotaryov 01:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support closing padonki test -- Anton Kazmyarchuk 23:32, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support it`s not language, it`s only slang --Павло Вознюк-Останній 09:16, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support yes, it`s really not language --Coipition'Tong 12:02, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support that's ridiculous --Nefis 04:28, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose, what's rediculous is that articles on your Siberian wikipedia such as these have 10 times more xenophobia than everything else put together. ref. Kuban Cossack 09:32, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
    • I can't find article called Московія in Siberian wikipedia. -- Anton Kazmyarchuk 12:00, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
      • Haha, and this is not place for voting about Siberian Wikipedia and especially not for POV discussions about it's content)) --Yaroslav Zolotaryov 01:32, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support --Taichi 05:05, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support closing padonki --Andrusiak 12:14, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Proposing closure of Surzhyk test[edit]

It's inactive for more than a month and a half, has 25 +-1 tiny articles. I propose and Symbol support vote.svg Support the closure of this test -- Anton Kazmyarchuk 23:34, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

This is not the place to discuss removal of tests. Please do not vote here. Dbmag9 17:51, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Surzhyk ruins the Ukrainian identity. It has no right to exist.--Andrusiak 10:02, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Whether it ruins the Ukrainian identity or not, it is not a language -- Alessandro 12:15, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

The vote is transferred to correct place already. --Yaroslav Zolotaryov 11:30, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Voices from surzhyk vote are transferred to "Test deletion" page -- Anton Kazmyarchuk 08:15, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Proposing deletion of Belarusian (normative) test[edit]

The test wp/be/ was transferred to a be: two months ago. Its presence here is needed no more. I'm putting this request as one of the active contributors top to those test. Yury Tarasievich 10:44, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

No need to vote about that :-) I will delete the test later today. — Timichal 14:14, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Khm... Today? Really? Alessandro 19:22, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
That's a long day... :) I will do it. SPQRobin 10:19, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Pff... It is very very much... I will do the rest next week. SPQRobin 12:29, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I blame my laziness... it's deleted now. — Timichal 15:16, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh, thanks. Did you do that with a bot? SPQRobin 15:38, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Transwiki of pages from other projects[edit]

Hello. I work on the test of the Ancient Greek Wikisource. Currently there are some ready pages in Ancient Greek at the Greek Wikisource (http://el.wikisource.org/). I wanted to ask if it is necessary to transwiki those pages, in order to preserve the previous history at a special page, or is it OK to write down the history at the talk page of each article & template, as I did so far? --Dead3y3 01:19, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Answered on IRC. — Timichal 09:40, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Add the kab wiki in the main page[edit]

The kabyle wiki test is not listed in the main page: http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/kab http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Kabyle_Wikipedia Toira 01:56, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Done. — Timichal 09:40, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Admin policy[edit]

Considering the size of the core community here, the requirement for 4 votes for new admins seems too high. SPQRobin requested adminship on 28 May but no one commented on that request at all until he pointed it out to me and I supported his request. Considering there was a backlog of several hundred pages listed for speedy deletion until I cleared them yesterday, there is obviously a need for new admins. Should the policy be relaxed so that new people do have some chance of becoming admins here? Angela 15:40, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I'd say yes; however (as you've probably noticed) I'm by no means an active contributor here any more, so I'm not sure if I'm really qualified to judge the situation here. Judging by what you've said here (about the number of active users etc.) your conclusion seems entirely reasonable: go ahead. Dbmag9 20:31, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
I think nobody will answer anymore. Should it be ok, or what now? SPQRobin 15:52, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

vandalism or unnecessary pages[edit]

here -Markvondeegel 15:26, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, deleted. It is added to Incubator:Cascade so it can't be recreated anymore. SPQRobin 16:23, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Contribs of Macedonæë He needs to be blocked, he is a vandal. --Keræk 18:32, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree, block me and User:Belgæë Macedonæë 18:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

41.232.29.85[edit]

User:41.232.29.85 has added comments on incubator that I regard as insulting to my religion and to Copts in general. I believe that User:41.232.29.85 on incubator is linked to one of the opposition of wikipedia Masry project . Many thanks. Ghaly 16:44, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

So [1] was an insulting comment? --MF-W {a, b} 17:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
The comment was written in Masry (Egyptian Arabic) and included ridicule of the Christian belief and Copts, on the other hand,I am happy for any other user who can understand Masry to give opinion about this, or for that matter the user him/herself to explain what was written from her/ his point of view to clarify matters although I am sure of what I understood and take the comment as insulting. Ghaly 17:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Blocked now for 3 days. --18:35, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Macedonæë, again on English Wikipedia[edit]

File:Usermacedonæëatenglishwikipedia.png What do we've got to do? -Markvondeegel 09:40, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

You've gotto inform them.. thhe best option! --Konghier 09:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Proposal: Setting up Automatic Converter[edit]

I proposed to install an automatic converter in this wiki on Community Portal.

I know you administrators and bureaucrats do not have such right. I want you to discuss my proposal and request the manager of this server to set up the converter if my proposal is passed. --Yes0song 11:43, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

pages to delete[edit]

Wq/li/Lein Wein‎ & Kyle Massey LimburgseHardcore 18:02, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Markvondeegel 18:07, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
You could also write {{delete}} and the reason on them. MF-Warburg 18:32, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Please block vandal[edit]

VolkswagenKing28 (talk | contribs) has vandalized WikiAds - moved page [2] and is seriously disrupting the project! Please help! --Benhello! 08:00, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I can't block him, but I won't do it even if I could. Wiki's are here for everyone to edit. If you can't live with that, you can't live with wiki's. --Ooswesthoesbes 08:10, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Hm, he's a sockpuppeter on en-wp: see en:User:VolkswagenKing28 and en:Category:Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_VolkswagenKing28. MF-Warburg 11:13, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
That's a reason for a block, but please keep in mind that even in you are the creator of a test or a project you still need to share it with other people, otherwise it won't ever be a real Wikimedia project. --Ooswesthoesbes 11:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Blocked now. And this WikiAds and all this other new projects will be deleted when the new policy is accepted, because it only allows existing Wikimedia projects. MF-Warburg 11:57, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
I've deleted the junk pages and blocked both accounts. --Brion VIBBER 19:07, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Special characters for Tarrifit Language wp/rif[edit]

We really need these characters to write in tarrifit :

Ɛ Č Ḍ Ğ Ḥ Γ(Ɣ) Ṛ Ṣ Ṭ Ț Ẓ Ž ε č ḍ ğ ḥ ɣ ṛ ṣ ṭ ţ ẓ ž

Tarrifit language is of the same family as the Kabyle language (Tamaziɣt). The http://kab.wikipedia.org (recently moved from the incubator to wiki main page) have these characters to write their articles. This is the transcription recommended by Salem Chaker, Centre de Recherche Berbère, INALCO. It has been used for the Baccalaureat Exam (equivalent Level A) for more than 10 years first by the Kabyles then by the Riffians.

http://www.inalco.fr/crb/docs_pdf/notation.pdf ---> page 17


I request you to modify the global monobook.js and add these characters. Thank you very much.

Yes check.svg Done --MF-W {a, b} Visit IRC! 15:37, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


You have done a good work but there is one mistake, it is my fault, not yours at all. Γ(Ɣ) are two different characters. I suggest you to remove the (Ɣ) from Γ(Ɣ) because they are counted as one character in your modification). We'd rather use only the Γ as recommended by the Centre de Recherche Berbère, INALCO.

So please edit the tarrifit special character from Γ(Ɣ) to Γ

Thank you very much for your work. It is now easier to write in Tarrifit in Wikimedia.

Yes check.svg Done --MF-W {a, b} Visit IRC! 14:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Special characters for Tachelhit Language wp/shi[edit]

we need the same charachter as tarifit's and kabyle's to write in tachelhit, and i advice you to add these characters to tachelhit's monobook.js :

Ɛ Č Ḍ Ğ Ḥ Ɣ Ṛ Ṣ Ṭ Ț Ẓ Ž ε č ḍ ğ ḥ ɣ ṛ ṣ ṭ ţ ẓ ž

thanks a lot.--Ayour 18:18, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I just changed the name "Tarrifit" to "Tarrifit / Tachelhit" because it has the same characters. SPQRobin 01:15, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thank you very much.--Ayour 22:15, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done, issue resolved. Anthøny 15:56, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Our local language : tarrifit, wp/rif[edit]

There is one mistake in the main page (http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page) of the incubator in the spelling of our local language tarrifit. In the row "local language", it is written tarifit (with one r), the correct spelling is tarrifit (two -r 's). Are we authorised to edit this page so that the mistake could be corrected ?

You can change it by editing Template:Tests. SPQRobin 12:30, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done Thank you SPQRobin --Eko 12:35, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Special character for Sepedi Language wp/nso[edit]

We need the following characters to be able to easily add articles in Sepedi;

Š š ȇ ȏ


Thanks in advance. Mohau 09:33, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done, Should appear after clearing your cache. SPQRobin 14:02, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


Removal Wp/ru-old[edit]

I one of authors Wp/ru-old. Why the category has been removed and how it to restore? Sasha1506 05:27, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Whole Wp/ru-old has been deleted, because the request was rejected ("ru-old" is an invalid ISO 639 code, and it's not unique enough).
Please contribute to the Russian Wikipedia, and if you'd like to contrinue with working on ru-old, please do it at a non-Wikimedia wiki, for example Incubator Plus.
SPQRobin 14:08, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


Malbot accounts - need blocked[edit]

I don't know if the folks here are aware of this issue, but there is a malbot that has been creating masses of accounts on many WMF projects over the past few weeks. There's a pattern to the accounts created - each username has ten characters, and the first and sixth ones are always capitalised. I've noticed a few such accounts being created over here. I'd like to suggest that those accounts, specifically user:RolorTrchi, User:SitcaEltel, and user:AleltBasac, be indefblocked. (All of the malbot accounts have been created from open proxies, as confirmed by checkuser at the English Wikinews.) I believe the stewards are already aware of this issue. Thanks, Tempodivalse 20:39, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello,
When stewards are aware of this they should lock and hide the account on a global base, instead of blocking them local.
I don't think I'm going to block those accounts here. Abigor talk 08:31, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
It is very difficult for stewards to block all accounts globally, given the sheer number that have been created. It's easier on the stewards if local blocks are made (and it doesn't make much difference whether an account is blocked locally or globally, since user cannot be made SUL if it's home wiki is blocked). Tempodivalse 14:39, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
I agree with Abigor. These accounts haven't made any contribtutions, so I don't see a reason to block them. --MF-W {a, b} 15:51, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

User:Newyorkmets2000[edit]

I de-translatored Newyorkmets2000. He has been messing around with things in the MediaWiki namespace that he shouldn't be... he effectively locked down editing on the wiki for anyone other than sysops with the Titleblacklist. We should review all the edits he's made and see if there are any other issues. Cbrown1023 talk 20:50, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

After Az1568 pointed this to me... I realized it's probably a good idea to block him. (However this doesn't mean we can't unblock him later.) Cbrown1023 talk 21:14, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

DELETE Wp/vi-nom test wiki[edit]

(moved to I:RFD) --MF-W {a, b} 15:28, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Delete Wp/pcd test wiki[edit]

Has been imported at pcd.wikipedia.org --Catrope 20:29, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

inet bra inte bra .... b¨åt

Template:User language category[edit]

Please create this template, or import it from meta m:Template:User language category. HenkvD 12:39, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

done --MF-W {a, b} 13:50, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Template:Welcome/vi[edit]

I want to tranlate, please create, thanks --minhhuy*= 00:43, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

done (note that currently only the first sentence of the English message is translated into any languages) --MF-W {a, b} 17:18, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Problems with prefixing Template:Wp/jam/documentation[edit]

I keep getting a "This page is using an unprefixed version of template {{Documentation}}" error. I can't find the offending reference neither in this template nor in the transcluded {{Use prefixed copy}} nor in {{Wp/jam/Documentation/docname}}. --Mkratz 23:31, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

In {{Template:Wp/jam/Documentation/docname}} Line 1:
Replace {{Use prefixed copy|Documentation/docname}} by {{Wp/jam/Documentation/docname}}
Not sure, whether this solves all the problems. Just an idea.
P.S. The same in {{Template:Wp/jam/documentation}} --Murma174 11:01, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Wouldn't that invoke a different template at this place, namely {{Wp/jam/Documentation/docname}} instead of {{Use prefixed copy}}?
Anyway, I already had tried "{{Use prefixed copy|Wp/jam/Documentation/docname}}" and got the suggestion to "Create {{Wp/jam/Wp/jam/Documentation/docname}} instead" (sic!) --Mkratz 12:47, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
{{Use prefixed copy}} must be removed from the template to let that message disappear. It is only intended to be used on unprefixed templates. --MF-W {a, b} 16:02, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
A-HA! Much better now. Thanks.
Perhaps it would be nice to tell the bot that includes {{Use prefixed copy}} to separate it by a double-CRLF from the actual template content, and maybe add a comment giving removal directions. --Mkratz 18:35, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
As far as I know there is no bot that adds the template, it has been done by normal users. --MF-W {a, b} 14:43, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Interwiki links to the incubator[edit]

Hello! I've just written an article on Josef (= Ujöp) Freinademetz in the Bavarian Wikipedia (Boarisch) and wanted to link it also to Ladin, by [[lld:Ujöp Freinademetz]]. It did not work. Here, in the incubator, towards Bavarian, it does work: [[bar: Josef Freinademetz]]. I think that it's very important to fetch the "slumbering" versions to the public; who can help? Hellsepp 16:37, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

This is because the wp/lld does not have an own subdomain yet, so it also can't have an interwiki code. It is possible to link to Incubator pages from other wikis using [[incubator: ...]], they do however only work as links in the text, not as interwikis appearing in the box on the left (you can use either [[:incubator or [[incubator: therefore, for other wikis there is a difference between e.g. [[:bar:... link in the text and [[bar:... interwiki link). The problem can hardly be solved as Incubator contains more than one test project - it could therefore happen that more than one interwiki link is placed to Incubator - the software wouldn't know which language to display in the interwiki box, and interwiki bots will be confused and cause mess. --MF-W {a, b} 16:21, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Using images[edit]

Usually I can use all the images used in the german Wikipedia for Wp/frr. But in some cases they don't show up, e.g. in this article: Wp/frr/Binomisch_formel . Is this problem solved automatically as soon as Wp/frr is approved? --Murma174 10:41, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

You can use all images from commons: here, de:file:Bino1.png, de:file:Bino2.png and de:file:Bino3.png are however local files from de.wikipedia. If you want to use them here (or later in a frr.wikipedia.org subdomain), you have to move them to Commons. --MF-W {a, b} 16:25, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
(edit conflict) That happens because these images were uploaded locally to the German Wikipedia, not Commons, the repository for all the Wikimedia wikis. If you want them to show up, you'll have to upload them. --Diego Grez 16:25, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Uploaded ... and works. Thank you! --Murma174 19:29, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

can't create Template:User_eo[edit]

I can't create Template:User_eo. I get "You are trying to create page with incorrect title. " ArnoLagrange 16:21, 8 July 2010 (UTC) It should be as follows:

eo Ĉi tiu uzanto denaske parolas Esperanton. <includeonly> [[Category:User eo-N]] [[Category:User eo]] </includeonly>
<noinclude>[[Category:Templates:Babel|eo]]

Please remove nowiki tags.

I'm not sure, whether I understand your question properly, but you could use the template: {{user language|eo|N|}}
(instead of "N" you can also use "1", "2", "3" or "4")
eo-N This user can read and write at a native level in Esperanto.
This is not translated, please use {{#babel:}}
Just an idea --Murma174 20:37, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
P.S. Within INCUBATOR each self-cretaed template has this form: Template:Wp/XX/title (where XX is the language code)

Vietnamese message[edit]

MediaWiki:Testwiki-title-imported is written in Vietnamese. It must be wrong. --Amir E. Aharoni 11:50, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Corrected; by mistake, it was translated on the original pages, not the Vietnamese subpage. --MF-W {a, b} 14:58, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Help required for Wp/anp projects.[edit]

Trying to use various templates already available in English Wikipedia but unable to do so. Please extend your help to us. Thanks

Angpradesh 02:29, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Which templates are you talking about exactly? It is necessarry that they are imported here and are prefixed with Template:Wp/anp/ if they don't exist here on Incubator, but only on en.wp yet. --MF-W {a, b} 18:33, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Template:User language/eu[edit]

There definitively is something wrong with this template, see: User:A R King. Does anyone see the problem? --OWTB 19:50, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

The same problem exists on Meta, from where the template was copied; it is because it doesn't follow the standard format (it uses #ifeq instead of #switch). I fixed it using the babel templates from en.wikipedia, but it couldn't harm if a speaker of the language could have a look if they are correct. --MF-W {a, b} 16:27, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Thank you :) --OWTB 16:29, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

frr created[edit]

The frr has been created some days ago, but the pages here are still not deleted. Is there somebody who is responsible for it? See Category:Wp/frr, frr. Regards -jkb- 08:27, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Corean Wikinews (wn/ko) also
Yes, we are aware of that, but we have to know for sure all pages are imported before we can delete the tests :) --OWTB 10:09, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
thx, I reported this on frr -jkb- 10:28, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Test-project deleted 19.09. --Murma174 05:09, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

wp/epa[edit]

What shall we do with it? I can't find a name of the language and the code does not exist. --OWTB 13:40, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

As there are no other pages than the main page, it can easily be restored if the correct code turns out. So I'd delete it. --MF-W {a, b} 19:36, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Deleted :) --OWTB 10:08, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

1 and 2[edit]

These probably still need to be imported, 'cause they've been moved from lost: --OWTB 16:29, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

I moved it manually to the Korean Wikinews (with mentioning the IP address of the contributor). Importing them wasn't worth the work, since someone would've had to request temporary import rights etc... SPQRobin 19:56, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Wp/bjn, Wp/koi, Wp/mrj, Wn/fa[edit]

wp/bjnbjn.wikipedia.org (Recent changes | Import log), imported by Arseny1992 18:21, 17 October 2010 (UTC) , Wikimedia Incubator admins can delete the test. --Arseny1992 18:21, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Also wp/koi, wp/mrj, wn/fa. The four tests can be deleted in a few days. SPQRobin 19:27, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Wq/tl-tglg & Wt/tl-tglg[edit]

Request the creation of the pages wq/tl-tglg & wt/tl-tglg for Tagalog Baybayin. --04:41, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Baybayin is Tagalog written in that script, which is a software issue, meaning that the Tagalog Wikipedia should be used for that. SPQRobin 19:18, 22 November 2010 (UTC)