Talk:Wy/hbs

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    Purpose of this page is to hold information about the test wiki for Wikivoyage HBS in the pluricentric or macro-language: Serbo-Croatian, Bosnian-Croatian-Montenegrin-Serbian, the language spectrum of Bosnian, Croatian, Montenegrin and Serbian, sometimes referred to as Shtokavian, naški (our language) or dobardanski (good day). Page is not to host discussions on the language politics in the SEE region.

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    FAQs[edit source]

    What is HBS?[edit source]

    HBS is a language code used for Serbo-Croatian – also called Serbo-Croat, Serbo-Croat-Bosnian (SCB), Bosnian-Croatian-Serbian (BCS), and Bosnian-Croatian-Montenegrin-Serbian (BCMS) – a South Slavic language and the primary language of Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Montenegro. It is a pluricentric language with four mutually intelligible standard varieties, namely Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, and Montenegrin. More info on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbo-Croatian.

    What is Wikivoyage?[edit source]

    Wikivoyage is a free web-based travel guide for travel destinations and travel topics written by volunteer authors. It is a sister project of Wikipedia and supported and hosted by the same non-profit Wikimedia Foundation (WMF). Wikivoyage has been called the "Wikipedia of travel guides". More on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage.

    Why HBS Wikivoyage?[edit source]

    Because there is no fully functional Wikivoyage in any individual language of the SEE region. This is a new effort in many ways and can support multiple language communities around SH, HR, BS, SR and even upcoming Montenegrin around (also) here incubating Wiki project. It is also an opportunity to introduce Wikis and open content work to people who have passion for travel and hospitality.

    Why is the test-wiki HBS Wikivoyage on the Incubator?[edit source]

    Because it is not an option to start independent Wikimedia project without content and minimum editing community, so incubating a test-wiki is the first step. After establishing at least 50 pages and 3 active editors, it is possible to advance from test into an independent wiki instance on Wikimedia infrastructure.

    What makes this test wiki different?[edit source]

    Test wikis are considered more flexible in terms of work practices (there is no Draft: namespace or procedures) and content display. This one is extra experimental in terms of language practices (does not commit to a single language community) and language regulation will be more diverse, equitable and inclusive.

    Who and how can one contribute?[edit source]

    Anyone with good intentions, informed of Mediawiki editing, administration or programing and who is contributing to Wikimedia projects in constructive way is welcome. If you have no experience in editing please consider to gain some in Wikipedia, Wikivoyage or other established projects first, as level of support for learning on them is likely higher.

    Can I contribute if I do not understand HBS languages?[edit source]

    YES! At this phase much of the technical work is not language dependent and does not require comprehention. This for example includes making copies of basic pages (with photos), templates and categories from EN Wikivoyage. Note that all the links and categories you are (likely) used to expect in EN instance should also work here, just they get redirected to HBS version.

    Can I communicate faster, (almost) real-time with others?[edit source]

    Please use Wikimedia Chat on the Wikivoyage channel https://chat.wmcloud.org/wikimedia/channels/wikivoyage *We do not use IRC or Discord channels.

    Where can I track what is status and plan?[edit source]

    We just started making plans and first drafts, the progress of which can be seen on the Wy/hbs/Wikivodič:Projekt samo-razvoj wikija page.

    Other questions...[edit source]

    If you have other questions related to project and want to ask them in English you are welcome to do it here by filling in this form. --Zblace (talk) 08:05, 24 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Wy SR[edit source]

    What will happen for another Serbian test? i.e. Wy/sr and corresponding request? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:01, 24 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    That is a question to ask there. I have no idea and it is not directly related to this effort. --Zblace (talk) 08:08, 25 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Wikivoyage is a project with small interest to start with, so HBS Wikivoyage is hopeful to be home to potential contributions from all over the region, including Serbia. We're also hopeful to sort out the technical issues with the Cyrillic converter and finally support it on Serbo-Croatian projects, including Wikivoyage. Best case scenario in my eyes would be inviting them to merge some of our projects (such as Wiktionary, Wikisource, Wikiquote, Wikinews perhaps, etc.), but they're of course free to work in their variants if they insist. :) -Vipz (talk) 16:20, 9 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    My (Vitek) contribution[edit source]

    Čuj kolega ja sam ti od danas na putu, pa nisam siguran da ću ti moći pomoći... al ću probat....

    Vitek 86.32.41.186 06:20, 16 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    New discussion on our HBS code[edit source]

    Primarily technical bug and discussion (without distinction of SH standard vs. HBS spectrum) but maybe useful to keep track of especially if you share my opinion that technical compromises and rigid consistency is less relevant than social-political ones (especially in our region where almost no collaborative projects existed till now). --Zblace (talk) 09:32, 23 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]