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SignWriting Tech

The general discussion about SignWriting Tech as been moved.

ASL Wikipedia Main Page

The main page needs to be more accurate and more inviting. On Labs, the main page of the ASL Wikipedia Project included pictures and English. I don't think we want a bilingual ASL Wikipedia, but we may want to consider bilingual indexes for those just learning. We may also want to consider Wikidata for cross-language links. Wikidata is the more powerful but the more confusing solution.

We will soon have 50 articles and the front page should reflect the contents better. What sections should we have on the main page? What templates can we use? Slevinski (talk) 15:28, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

The main page could be based off of the design of one of the other Wikipedias, I suppose. en:'s looks usable (version in my sandbox, looks a bit odd because it's outside the ase space and the rotation CSS isn't applied, but looks okay when it is). fr:'s is also nice, (and the similar designs used by it:, ru:, pl: and sv:) but I don't know if the SW text will interact well with gradients.

Would I be correct in thinking that a substantial percentage of ASL users (such as those in West Africa and Southeast Asia) don't understand English? If so, I think it would make sense to try to minimize confusion surrounding English usage by making it clear using ASL what the English is there for before its use in each situation where it makes sense to have any English.

Wikidata doesn't yet support Incubator (or Incubator doesn't yet support Wikidata, or whatever), so the possibilities for cross-language links are limited, I think. --Yair rand (talk) 05:14, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

I strongly support creating English redirects to every article here and have been doing so with articles I come across and articles I created. The reason is obvious (to me at least)...there is not one canonical way to write any sign in SignWriting. Every sign can be written an infinite number of ways, as the coordinates of the arrows and other symbols can be slightly varied. Therefore, the search feature does not work at all on this Wiki if a user writes a sign and tries to find an article about it. Most topics have one obvious name that most people will search for, such as wp/ase/Alice Cogswell, wp/ase/Philippines, et cetera. I agree that we need to keep writing all articles only in ASL, but we need a bilingual index to make searches possible. --Psiĥedelisto (talk) 04:42, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Logo

Not specifically about the main page, but does anyone want to make a ASL Wikipedia logo? This isn't strictly necessary until we move to a separate domain, but we could still have a logo show up in the corner in the meantime by adding it to MediaWiki:Gadget-ProjectSpecificLogos.js. Basing things off the other logo files, the file would be 155px by 135px, with the words "Wikipedia / The free encyclopedia" in ASL written across the right-hand side. --Yair rand (talk) 03:21, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Optimize for mobile devices

Although this wiki have implemented some technologies to get proper direction and text rensering, this wiki shouls also provide some enhancement for mobile devices, because they are works only with desktop pages, many texts displays only as insignificant texts, and the special direction have not been used when browsing them on the mobile phone. I think you can made some implementation on MediaWiki:Wp/ase/Mobile.css and MediaWiki:Wp/ase/Mobile.js. -- Great Brightstar (talk) 07:47, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Yes, this wiki should support mobile. Thanks for the links. We will be looking into the issue during Wikiconference North America in October. --Slevinski (talk) 16:24, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

@Slevinski I think getting mobile to work may need to wait until we get proper vertical writing support in Mediawiki, unless someone wants to work on manually writing CSS for suppressing all horizontally-oriented CSS or writing a script to remove existing style tags and replace them with CSSJanus-processed CSS. --Yair rand (talk) 03:14, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the information Yair. -- Slevinski (talk) 13:31, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Seen from en:Template:MongolUnicode, I found Wikimedia also has phab:T11436 regarding this. Additionaly, I have created a CSS page which includes some classes to let user handle CSS writing mode via class="xxx", I suggest they can be introduce into this wiki. --Great Brightstar (talk) 16:18, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

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I have written two articles, Wp/ase/AS14051S15d5aS2ef04S22a04S20500M523x539S15d5a478x520S20500479x500S22a04477x480S14051492x494S2ef04477x460 and Wp/ase/AS14037S20f00M517x523S14037493x492S20f00483x477. I am not a native speaker, so I'm not sure if my contributions are wanted, so I will hold off until someone looks at them. :) I find this idea to be awesome and was just trying to support it. I also have some tips to any editors who might be reading my message: you can do a lot without messing with the keyboard. If you go to this website, you'll find many premade SignWriting codes already. Just click the "FSW" link in search results and copy and paste! Also, you can write signs in the Wp/ase/Sandbox, then copy and paste them into the URL bar to make a page with a title. --Psiĥedelisto (talk) 11:54, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Your contributions are most welcome. The more people participating in this wiki the better. -Slevinski (talk) 20:29, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi User:Slevinski :D Does M543x529S15a08472x471S15a00516x471S2711c458x502S2710c503x501S2fb04491x523 as a sign for Islam look OK to you? It's used on wp/ase/Philippines and is one of the few signs I could not find in SignPuddle. --Psiĥedelisto (talk) 07:46, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Sure, that looks fine. Very nice. - Slevinski (talk) 16:13, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Mediawiki vertical writing support

Hello, on meta wikimedia's 2017 community wishlist page, I have submitted a proposal asking for vertical writing support in wikimedia software. If you are reading this page, you might want to head to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2017_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Miscellaneous#Vertical_writing_support to express your opinion and support for the proposal by December 10, 2017. C933103 (talk) 14:30, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

More "Pleasing" Design

Hi There! I think this is honestly very cool and although I do not speak sign language (well) I think this is a very interesting premise. The main complaint is the way it looks. The vertical text gadget which you have enabled causes pretty much all the text to be sideways which causes looking at it to be very difficult. I'd recommend checking out the Mongolian script incubator here: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/mvf/Sedv%C3%BC%C3%BCd. They use vertical scripture too, and have it still appear pretty normal on English computers. So, yeah. also maybe changing the menus to sign writing could help make it look a bit more normal thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madmoons (talk) 21:28, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

@Madmoons Thank you for your observations. We have been working on making a vertical text design, which entails a lot of technical issues. We have been focusing on implementing something that would satisfy the vertical text mode, but it isn't there completely. Things had been (unintentionally) placed on hold for a while, so this issue certainly needs to be revisited. Once the vertical text mode has been solved to satisfactory, then handling mixed modes might be better addressed in order to make it less of a struggle for those who use a horizontal writing mode.

To summarize, we are aware that the writing modes need a lot of work still. We are aware of The Inner Mongolian test Wikipedia and that they have a similar issue, albeit we are farther along in a more complex vertical text rendering.

(I am also aware that adding a signature with the wiki markup isn't possible since the key is used to toggle between keyboards.)

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Problem on mobile

On mobile, letters and numbers are seen, meanwhile on desktop it works just fine. What is going on Abrown1019 (talk) 17:29, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Doesn't work on mobile. The letters and numbers you see are called Formal SignWriting in ASCII (FSW). The desktop skin has been modified and runs a custom script that converts the FSW into the images you see. -Slevinski (talk) 18:45, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

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== Wikisource Arlo Barnes (talk) 20:33, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for the mangled header; what I meant to ask is if it would be possible to have the aforementioned custom script work at https://wikisource.org/wiki/AS18620S19220S14020S19220S14051S14a20S10120S19220S1f720M518x616S18620495x383S19220497x417S14020483x440S19220497x474S14051484x497S14a20497x525S10120497x544S19220497x578S1f720492x601

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