Talk:Wp/liv/Õbdõ

Ma äb sai arū, mikš -ḑ- ja äb -d- um sin pǟsõnās "silver" pierāst. I would start to change to õbdõ or õbdi, but I do not think, that it is possible in the headline. Another thing was, that the part in passive voice, where (in my language) the direct object becomes the subject of the sentence, here the partitive remained partitive. Well, partitive sometimes only is a signal, corresponding to the english signal-word "a/an", which shows "it is not determinated", but in this case my feeling tends to nominativ. I think, there will be no problem to understand "komputõr", but more common is the word "datōr", which came from Scandinavia. And the last sentence about the importance of silver for photographing is now only of historical interest because of the digitalisation in this field of our civilisation. Ēlmaz 19:02, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I can see good dictionaries have it as õbdi. Source of my error is Latvian-Livonian-English Phrase Book by Šuvcāne, Ernštreite available online which is known to have some problems. Changing headline is a problem indeed. You can create new article and blank old one, but you can lose history and talk page by doing that. And I have no problems with datōr. Warbola 00:36, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

@Ēlmaz, subjects sometimes take partitive, for example, suggõ (to happen), e.g., sugīz seļļiži suggimiži "happens such:Part. occurences:Part." But I think it's not a "real" subject because sugīz is actually impersonal. If you speak Latvian the only cases where subjects are not in Nom. are also semi-impersonal, like ir daudz darba. Viitso actually calls Livonian passive "impersonal" because it cannot have an agent (like in Latvian it is impossible to say for example "powered by"). So, I trust Warbola on this one. :D

Also, I changed elektrõr to elektrīb (word for electricity in dict.) but today I found this elektõr used for a bunch of compounds (without the extra "r" though). So, I changed it back, e.g., elektõrkontaktidi. Neitrāls vārds (talk) 19:25, 17 January 2014 (UTC)