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Contents 1 Requests for deletions 1.1 Latinized Russian (Wp/ru-lat) 1.2 Aeres Wikinews (Wn/aeres) 1.3 Twents Wikipedia (Wp/twd) 1.4 West frisian (Wp/x-West Frisian (creol)) 1.4.1 Comment 1.5 1337 Wikipedia (Wp/137) 1.6 Ikodo Wikipedia (Wp/ikodobo/) 1.7 wp/sak, wp/skh

Requests for deletions

Latinized Russian (Wp/ru-lat)

Rejected on Meta as nonsence. Should be deleted --VasilievVV 16:22, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Support After a new look. It's was against meta's policy: no valid code, just another writingsystem... Maybe it can be used over 45 000 years when they use latin writing in Russia, but now move it. -Markvondeegel 16:25, 3 September 2007 (UTC) Changed my vote on: -Markvondeegel 16:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Support deletion. Latinized Russian is ridiculous, but I have nothing against moving it to Incubator Plus. SPQRobin 16:31, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Support deletion per all above and all said in MetaWiki discussion. Maybe moving shouldn't be done too, because of easiness of recreation, but I won't object if moving will be done. — 195.112.231.127 16:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)That was me. — Kalan 17:01, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Maybe we can change the policy to make moving of a rejected test from the Incubator Plus to the Wikimedia Incubator unpossible? -Markvondeegel 17:02, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Support langcom denied as a nonsense. MF-Warburg 16:57, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Support per MF-Warburg. --Obersachse 17:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Comment Isn't this a vote? -Markvondeegel 17:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

what do you mean? MF-Warburg 17:17, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I think this is more a vote than an argument. As far as I know, most of us aren't active contributors to the test. -Markvondeegel 17:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Bwa, you may vote, but it has just a little bit influence, arguments have more influence. SPQRobin 17:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Support deletion, kwatsj/nonsense. It's just like Limburgish in Arabian writing, English in Korean writing or Swedish in Cyrillic writing. Moving to Plus-Incubator won't be a problem to me. --Ooswesthoesbes 17:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Support now we needn't it in Incubator. --Flrn 11:41, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Oppose It was a good test, but abandoned because of the destructiveness of the langcom. SF-Language 10:06, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Support nonsence, has no sence. Wikjba'cakp' 17:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Support deletion, but I have to say I don't like Cyrillic writing, I like Latin writing. Adeiqha 18:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

No lqah' jba' Rosocc? Wikjba'cakp' 09:37, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Support The likelihood of this proposal ever being approved by Wikimedia is hugely remote. --Jose77 23:28, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Support deletion, there is obviously no reason now to wait a whole year ∴ Alex Smotrov 15:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Here's the decision: no ISO code, so speedy delete, but we should ask the test contributors before whether they want us to move it to Incubator Plus. --MF-W {a, b} Visit IRC! 10:36, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Note: You said "no ISO code", but this has an ISO code: ru-latn. SPQRobin 13:46, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok, then: delete because it's just nonsense? --MF-W {a, b} Visit IRC! 05:55, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Final Decision: delete. it's just nonsense etc. and ru-latn isn't a real ISO code (I think). Also the test is inactive since langcom denied. --MF-W {a, b} Visit IRC! 14:25, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Aeres Wikinews (Wn/aeres)

1. No Wikipedia
2. All other Wikimedia projects are at aeres.wikia.com
3. Won't ever have activity

I propose to delete it. Or move it to aeres.wikia.com. -Markvondeegel 15:29, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Support and I don't think this need votes and other arguments. SPQRobin 15:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Support I also just had the idea to delete this. MF-Warburg 16:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Support moving to aeres.wikia.com. Wikjba'cakp' 17:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted: moved to Aeres Wikia -Markvondeegel 12:07, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Twents Wikipedia (Wp/twd)

Inactive for over a year, can be moved to Incubator Plus.

Inakccife jka' 12cjamn', lqah' a' Incubator Plus jmoq' jba' mi. Wikjba'cakp' 09:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

• Speedy delete per I:P --VasilievVV 11:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Done, speedy deleted because it has no ISO code and is inactive. Moved to incubator Plus: wikiasite:incubatorplus:Wp/twd. --MF-W {a, b} Visit IRC! 13:44, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

West frisian (Wp/x-West Frisian (creol))

No valid ISO code, is it a fork of fy:? - VasilievVV 14:15, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

• Looks so. --MF-W {a, b} Visit IRC! 14:28, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose West Frisian is a language spoken in North Holland in the Netherlands. I'm totally against deletion, but if it has to go away of the Wikimedia Incubator please move it to the Incubator Plus. --Ooswesthoesbes 15:08, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

eh, there is fy: - is this the same language? en:West Frisian language tells that fy is ISO code for it, so it could be moved to Wp/fy. --MF-W {a, b} Visit IRC! 15:33, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

No, it's not. Normal West Frisian (fy) is Fries in Dutch. West Frisian (creol) is Westfries in Dutch and are very different languages, but they are related somehow. --Ooswesthoesbes 15:35, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok, it may be a different language, but it doesn't have an valid ISO code (you can look for it better), so it should be deleted/moved to Incubator+ - VasilievVV

Ok, it's the policy. But I'm totally against deletion. If it needs to go away. It needs to go to the + incubator. --Ooswesthoesbes 18:05, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Please change the note on the mainpage that says 'How to use this Wiki' and note somewhere that tests without a vailid ISO-code need to go to the Incubator +. --Ooswesthoesbes 05:15, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

• Just to be sure: we are not discussing a Frisian variant here. Westfries is a Dutch dialect group, but a distinct one indeed. Just read and compare. The code is surely invalid; a valid code could be nl-wfr. I Oppose deletion. The dialect group is quite distinct, well defined and the test wiki has done very well for the past few months. Indeed, I am against removing any healthy test wiki, unless it's a hoax. Steinbach 18:29, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose please read your own policy: You can propose a deletion of a test language. You may only propose a deletion of a test language which does not have a proposal on Meta or is rejected by the langcom. . It's not rejected, but has an open proposal at meta. Close this discussion and KEEP? Wikjba'cakp' 13:56, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

If it has a proposal on meta, mark it with template like {{open or conditional}} --VasilievVV 15:12, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

• No real ISO-code, but it has been created before the policy came. I Oppose deletion. It's a different language than. -Markvondeegel 14:19, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose deletion. One should be carefull in removing projects which may contain real information not available elsewhere in Wikipedia. Apart from that, Westfries is a clearly distinguished Dutch dialect with considerable Frisian content, which I investigated some years ago: Hoefrysk. --Pyt 09:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC). (Short diagram captions in English.)

Comment

Please read this to make some points clear:

I really want to oppose the deletion, but I can't. It does not make any sense, because the langcom doesn't allow languages without a valid ISO-code, so unfortunately we may not allow them either. If we would allow them, then it really makes no sense, because we can assure you that the langcom will reject the language.

This is for both valuable languages and less valuable languages.

Sorry. SPQRobin 15:42, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

The policy doesn't make clear that we have to move or delete old tests from before the new policy if they have no ISO code. -Markvondeegel 15:44, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Hmpf... Yes, but again, it makes no sense because it will be rejected by the langcom. And it is IMO useless to hold tests which will be rejected. SPQRobin 19:25, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Well then, is there an alternative for them?--Pyt 08:18, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I propose to close this vote because it's against the deletion policy: You can propose a deletion of a test language. You may only propose a deletion of a test language which does not have a proposal on Meta or is rejected by the langcom. The not-rejected proposal at meta can be found here -Markvondeegel 07:55, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Result: KEEP. --MF-W {a, b} Visit IRC! 17:17, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

1337 Wikipedia (Wp/137)

I think this Wikipedia does not meet the language requirements, due to lack of ISO code. -- 84.178.247.140 15:11, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

DELETED: just some nonsense vandalism. No need to vote about this one. -Markvondeegel 15:36, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Ikodo Wikipedia (Wp/ikodobo/)

Does this language exist? Neither Wikipedia nor Google can identify it. -- 84.178.247.140 15:26, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

deleted by SPQRobin. --MF-W {a, b} Visit IRC! 15:26, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

en terech. --Ooswesthoesbes 15:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

wp/sak, wp/skh

All invalid: http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=sak, http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=skh. This is definitely not one of those African or Indonesian languages. --Ooswesthoesbes 11:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree. --MF-W {a, b} 11:50, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

No code = no test, unfortunately. SPQRobin 11:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

DELETE. no code, no test. Doesn't need discussion. --MF-W {a, b} 14:39, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Deleted. Angela 03:05, 7 February 2008 (UTC)