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沖縄語のプロジェクトに関する

始みてぃ拝なびら。Viskonsasんでぃ言っちょーいびーん。一先ず沖縄語版のウィキペディアを作成するために努力して下さりありがとうございます。春春眠眠の貢献を大事に思います。一方、沖縄語で初心者のレベルで話せる利用者として幾つかの問題点を強調したいですが、春春眠眠さんのご協力をよろしくお願いいたします。

1. 残念ながら沖縄語版のウィキペディアで作った記事の中に文法などが間違い記事が大半ではないので参考を選ぶときに十分気を付けた方が良いと思います。主な間違いの一つは連体形を無視することです。うちなーぐちは現代日本語と違って動詞と形容詞で連体形を保ちましたのでご注意ください。例：「世ぬ果てぃんかいあゆん国やん」✖「世ぬはてぃんかいある国」○。
2. うちなーぐちの書き言葉で主語を示すときに「や」（日本語の「は」に当たる助詞）が使われています。一方、話す言葉で多くの件では、「や」でなく、長音符が使われますが、前者のルールに従わないと概念を定義する部分には変に表示されているかなと思います。そうしないと例えば、Wp/ryu/麦の場合、「麦（むじ）ー、小麦、大麦、ライムギんでーぬ…」になります。但し、「むじー」と言うと全く違う意味になるのです。（話す言葉で　むじぇー　と発音されていますが、漢字が使うと書きづらくなります）。

何かがご質問があれば遠慮なくお聞きください。宜さる事御願ーさびら。Viskonsas (talk) 20:07, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

わかりました 春春眠眠 (talk) 21:35, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

沖縄語で正しく書かれていないページについて

最近、沖縄語で正しく書かれていないページを削除することを提案しましたが、IPユーザーが「気に入らない記事を無差別に削除する行為こそがうちなーぐちwikiの発展を妨げる。アンサイクロペディアのmuttleyと同類。」と記載したすべての編集を元に戻しました。 ただし、これらのページは沖縄語で正しく書かれていないので、沖縄語が読める人が混乱するので保管しないでください。 したがって、それらのページを削除するのを手伝ってくれませんか、それともそれらの間違いを修正するのを手伝ってくれませんか？ 墜星璃月 (talk) 16:01, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

確かに「間違った言語で書かれている」という削除理由はありますが、削除に異議がある利用者がいる以上、I:RFDにて削除依頼を行う方がよいのではないでしょうか？-- Syunsyunminmin (talk) 16:24, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

当初、I：RFDはプロジェクト全体の削除について話し合うことであり、ページではないと思っていましたが、沖縄語で正しく書かれていないページがたくさんあるので、削除するページをすべてリストすることはできないと思います。

さらに、別のIPユーザーが、今日、インキュベーターのメインページを沖縄語に翻訳しました。 残念ながら、それは明らかに沖縄語ではなく、いくつかの語彙と文法が機械的に沖縄語に変更された日本語だけです。 この問題に対処する方法がわかりません... 墜星璃月 (talk) 03:44, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

「間違った言語で書かれている」というのがどこまでを範囲としているのかわからない以上、流石にこれに関してはコミュニティポータルで聞いてみるしか無いと思います。そもそも正しい沖縄語というのが母語話者ではない人たちからしてみるととこが正しくて間違っているのかがわからないので難しい問題ですね。 Syunsyunminmin (talk) 07:40, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

沖縄語を読むことができ、文法のほとんどを知っているし、メインページの翻訳が全然間違っていることがわかります。「ます」、「新しい」、「同じ」、「すべて」これらは沖縄語には存在せず、「を」、「で」、「の」などの助詞も存在しません。「百科事典」も「百科くとぅ典」、「以下」も「以シチャ」に翻訳されており、絶対に機械的な翻訳であることを示しています。 ただし、翻訳を元に戻すことはできません。 メインページの翻訳はできるだけ早く削除すべきだと思います。最近、多くの記事を修正していますが、まだまだたくさんあります。 これらの記事が削除されていない場合、検証プロセス中に問題が発生する可能性があります。 墜星璃月 (talk) 08:16, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

確かに私でもメインページはひどいと感じますね。 Syunsyunminmin (talk) 08:33, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

即時削除依頼すると< noinclude >しても表示されていまいますが、仕方ないですね。 Syunsyunminmin (talk) 08:37, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

だめですね、即時削除タグを張ったら参照読み込みしているメインページがCategory:Maintenance:Deleteにエントリされてしまったので、I:RFDにて依頼しました。 Syunsyunminmin (talk) 08:44, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

I:RFDにて依頼してありがとうございます。 墜星璃月 (talk) 09:01, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

シレティウィキニュース

こんにちは、私は日本語版ウィキニュースであなたの作品を見ました。 開発中です(シレティウィキニュース)。ぜひご意見をお聞かせください! --ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 09:01, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello. I would like to view the Sylheti WikiNews content, but my browser doesn't seem to be able to view it. Did you do anything special to your PC to view it? Syunsyunminmin (talk) 13:52, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Easiest way

• from any mobile device
• Mozilla Firefox (built in support for Sylheti fonts)

Technically

• by downloading Noto Sans Syloti Nagri font
• opening link in Aksharamukha website multiscript converter

-- ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 04:46, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Oh! I could see it. However, Google Translate does not work so I cannot comment on the content.
Comments I can make are:

• Is there a template for the "Wn/syl" article with different editing stages? Like {{Develop}} or {{Publish}}.
• I don't like the template formatting of all articles because it is not scalable, and it is not compatible with visual editors.

Syunsyunminmin (talk) 05:44, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

@Syunsyunminmin Nice to hear that. Google Translate for Sylheti is still in the Beta version.

• So far we use {{coming soon},
• For published news {{news template}}
• and {{Review}}

Thanks for your first impression feedback. I will add them here {{Develop}} and {{Publish}} soon. Please feel free to let us know if you have any more suggestions for us. --ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 03:15, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Another help!

Hey! I need an another help or suggestions. On the Template:Wn/bn/জমা page, after clicking on the button text, the action says, "page not found: Wikimedia Incubator: Dialog/do". Is there any way to change the action page or add a prefix? The module being used is Module:Wn/bn/TScope. Thanks in advance. Asked42 (talk) 10:13, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

The form page: Template:Wn/bn/জমা/ফর্ম। Translation: জমা=Sumbit. Asked42 (talk) 10:18, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi, @Asked42. I found an issue. Please change the script to load in common.js
from

mw.loader.load('//en.wikinews.org/w/load.php?modules=ext.gadget.wikidialog');

to

mw.loader.load('//incubator.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Syunsyunminmin/wikinews/wikidialog.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');

This should probably work. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 12:28, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Yess, it worked! I sincerely appreciate your help. Thank you once again for everything you've done. Asked42 (talk) 12:43, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

I apologize for bothering you again, but the action displays a message indicating that the page is unsecured. Where exactly I'm going wrong. Asked42 (talk) 13:07, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Uh, there is nothing wrong with that. Just for security reasons. Since this system can cause serious destruction if abused, it appears that the relevant pages must remain protected. Hmmm. This level cannot be decreased. This will not be available until the wiki is moved from the incubator to a subdomain. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 13:38, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Okay, in that case, there is nothing that can be done. Thanks. By the way, Is there any other way to achieve a similar kind of action: a one-click option that submits an article for review, meaning it will add a Template:Review template to the article? Asked42 (talk) 13:47, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

As far as I know, there is no other way. Probably a new script will need to be developed. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 13:55, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi. I made a script that can be used instead.(1)
This is the default template. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 16:41, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

I installed the script, but don't understand where the button will appear or how to perform the task. Asked42 (talk) 00:34, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

I edited "{{Wn/bn/উন্নয়ন চলছে}}". It should work now. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 04:02, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Whenever I click the notice popup, showed "page unsecured: Wn/bn/Wikinews:Dialog/do" Asked42 (talk) 12:22, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Please replace the contents of User:Asked42/common.js with

mw.loader.load('//incubator.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Syunsyunminmin/wikinews/easy-submit.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');

Syunsyunminmin (talk) 12:28, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

It worked! Just a question: if I need to change the text প্রতিস্থাপনন, do I only have to edit it in User:Asked42/wikinews/easy-submit.js? Asked42 (talk) 12:36, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

I have to apply the changes to User:Syunsyunminmin/wikinews/easy-submit.js by me. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 12:43, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

So can you replace "প্রতিস্থাপনন" with "প্রতিস্থাপন"! it has a extra "ন". Thank you very much for this script and all that you have done. Asked42 (talk) 12:51, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Applied. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 12:57, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello again! I hope this message finds you well. Firstly, I want to express my appreciation for the assistance provided a month ago in creating the easy submit script. Today, I am seeking your expertise once again for the development of an "easy review script", if it is possible.

To provide context, I envision a feature whereby, upon installation, users are presented with a button on pages containing the 'Template:review.' Upon clicking this button, an input form will emerge, encompassing template peer review parameters. The required input fields are as follows:

1. Result:

2. Comment:

3. Date:

4. Reviewer: (If viable, an automated inclusion of the user's name would be highly beneficial.)

Following the completion of these fields, users would proceed to submit the form. It's noteworthy that this template will be incorporated into the talk page and will come equipped with a built-in heading.

I acknowledge that this concept is foundational. For a more sophisticated iteration, I propose that the script has the potential to eliminate the review template while simultaneously adding the 'publish' template at the bottom in the event of a successful outcome. Conversely, should the outcome not meet the criteria for success, the script would remove the review template and restore the 'under development' template.

I understand that the feasibility of this script may have limitations, and I am fully understanding if its implementation proves unviable. I would like to highlight that the potential application of this script extends beyond just one Wikinews lang version; it could prove invaluable for all other incubator Wikinews versions.

Thank you for considering this request. Your expertise and guidance are genuinely appreciated.

If possible then please let me know, I will provide you the local template and parameters name/input values. Asked42 (talk) 16:55, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Let's do it. But this will take a while because it is different from just clicking a button.--Syunsyunminmin (talk) 00:34, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

This is truly wonderful, and I want to express my sincere gratitude. I deeply appreciate your assistance. Here are the translations of the templates into the local language:

- Review = {{নিরীক্ষা}}

- Under development = {{উন্নয়ন চলছে}}

- Peer review template = {{প্রকাশন নিরীক্ষা}}

The parameters for the peer review template include:

- ফলাফল (result)

- সংখ্যা (old ID)

- তারিখ (date)

- বার্তা (comment)

- নিরীক্ষক (reviewer)

Furthermore, there's the 'Publish' template: {{প্রকাশ করুন}}.

I fully understand that this functionality involves more complexity than simply clicking a button. Your commitment and effort in implementing this intricate feature are tremendously appreciated. Thank you for investing your time and skills into making this possible. Asked42 (talk) 07:22, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Asked42. The script was written. Also, the name of the script has been changed from easy-submit.js to easy-dialog.js. But, don't bother changing the loading.
Dialog labels are editable, so let us know if you have a preference in your language.
If you have any problems with the script, please let me know at any time. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 16:25, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

This is just advice, but I would recommend that the {{Wn/bn/প্রকাশন নিরীক্ষা}} be substitution or separated from the section headings. If the headings are called from the template, section editing is not possible. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 16:31, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much once again. I removed the default heading text from the template. But, upon testing, whenever I click the review option, it loads for a moment, but nothing happens afterward. Otherwise, everything is working wonderfully. Asked42 (talk) 19:45, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Also another request, Is it possible for the script to also add the heading? If so, the desired heading format could be: "[সংস্করণ সংখ্যা: {{{সংখ্যা}}}] এর নিরীক্ষণ - ফলাফল: {{{ফলাফল}}}". Here, 'সংখ্যা' corresponds to 'rivid' and 'ফলাফল' = 'result'. Thank you. Asked42 (talk) 20:02, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. I fixed the problem.
Substitution is very easy when creating scripts. Is it possible to make the template a substitution? Syunsyunminmin (talk) 10:20, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

I think the template can be a substitution. But Also, the review form is still not appearing. Thank you. Asked42 (talk) 11:47, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Is there a "Review" link in p-cactions? Syunsyunminmin (talk) 12:36, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Yes, the review link is there, but upon clicking it, nothing happens. Asked42 (talk) 12:41, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Are there any errors in the console log? Syunsyunminmin (talk) 12:43, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

"Yes, there is an error showing in the console log. The error message is as follows:

Uncaught TypeError: $(...).dialog is not a function

at Syunmin.IBWN.makeReviewForm (index.php?title=User:Syunsyunminmin/wikinews/easy-dialog.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:172:20)

at <anonymous>:1:14 Asked42 (talk) 12:54, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Could you please try again? Syunsyunminmin (talk) 12:59, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Yes, now the form is open. Thank you so much for your time in resolving and identifying the issue and for creating this wonderful script. Asked42 (talk) 13:03, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi, sorry to bother you again. I'm requesting two modifications to the script if possible.

1. To Include the heading text while adding the peer review template on the talk page. The heading text could be, "[সংস্করণ সংখ্যা: {{{সংখ্যা}}}] এর নিরীক্ষণ - ফলাফল: {{{ফলাফল}}}". Here, সংখ্যা = rivid, and ফলাফল = result.

2. If a page has {{অনিরীক্ষিত প্রকাশ}} instead of {{নিরীক্ষা}} template, then the script will remove this template as well, but it will not add the publish template to the page. The talk page function remains the same.

Thank you for your expertise once again. Whenever you have time, please implement this suggestion if it seems appropriate and possible. Asked42 (talk) 19:22, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

1. done.
2. Is that when peer review fails?

Syunsyunminmin (talk) 14:14, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the heading. The term 'অনিরীক্ষিত প্রকাশ' translates to 'un-reviewed publish.' This notice is used when an article has been published without undergoing a review process. Initially, this notice was implemented due to the absence of an active reviewing system. However, it's worth noting that articles with this template should still undergo a review. The reason behind this is that all articles with this template already have the 'publish' template. Therefore, if the script detects '{{অনিরীক্ষিত প্রকাশ}},' it will indicate the need for review but won't include the 'publish' template. Asked42 (talk) 15:01, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Can I treat it the same as {{Wn/bn/নিরীক্ষা}}? Add a review link, publish if it passes, return to develop if it fails. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 15:19, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Yes, basically, it serves as an 'or template' for {{নিরীক্ষা}}, with the key difference being that in this case, the 'publish' template already exists. Asked42 (talk) 15:22, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Done. --Syunsyunminmin (talk) 15:39, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Once again, I want to express my heartfelt gratitude for all the effort and time invested in bringing this script to fruition. I genuinely believe that this script will greatly enhance the reviewing process for Bengali Wikinews and potentially benefit other Wikinews projects in the future. Its utility is truly invaluable and helpful. Asked42 (talk) 15:48, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

@Syunsyunminmin, the heading is appearing as normal text. Asked42 (talk) 16:22, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

fixed! Syunsyunminmin (talk) 16:24, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

An error

Hello! I'm currently facing an issue with this template. The error message states: 'Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "০".' I would greatly appreciate any assistance in resolving this error. Translation: অধিকারের আবেদন = Request for permission. Asked42 (talk) 21:28, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Also, whenever the expression tag is used, some kind of error always shows up. Asked42 (talk) 21:32, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

It is due to the local number format of Bengali. When working with formulas, you have to be careful about number formatting. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 05:34, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Understood. I'll be more careful next time. Thanks for the help again. Asked42 (talk) 09:48, 27 July 2023 (UTC)