User talk:Tamara Ustinova

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Hello Tamara Ustinova how can I add luri lrc in this page same as english or bqi luri bakhtiari in the the section of language? if this ability is possible for luri lrc language? so thanks. and to inform you for translation message in luri lrc they don't response to your and me request so thanks Mogoeilor (talk) 16:03, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Revert[edit source]


Why exactly did you do this: ?

Is there something that has to be done before it can be shown as open for editing?

Espreon (talk) 23:40, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

"imported" doesn't limit contributing, it only shows that the project had its own domain in former times. Roughly speaking, "imported" is almost equivalent to "open" but shows another colour of template, so there's no reason to worring. :) Sorry that I didn't add a summary for revert. --Tomoi (diskussiitond) 07:49, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Votic Wikipedia wasn't created. The language of this project was criticized by an expert.[edit source]

Votic Wikipedia wasn't created. The language of this project was criticized by an expert.

I'm afraid we could start rewriting Wp/vot. Everything anew. --Tomoi (diskussii • tond) 19:48, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

  • A cen kase ekspertta on? Kussa? I mitä tämä juttõli ceelessä? Missi piäb kõicci panna väl'l'ää :)

(But I was thinking of a plan // To dye one's whiskers green, // And always use so large a fan // That they could not be seen.) FitzSæmParson (talk) 18:17, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

tänneci panin FitzSæmParson (talk) 09:21, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

I looked through some articles of Votic Wikiperdia (in fact, I have already read it a year ago - I did not notice very much changes now).

What can I say? The problem is that there is a "classical" Votic, which is based on the grammar by Paul Ariste.
This grammar was written in 1948 (translated into English in 1968) and mostly used the data from already extinct Votic dialect.
People who wrote articles for Wikipedia used this Votic variety.
Of course many contemporary notions does not (and cannot) exist in Ariste's grammar, so the Wiki authors invent their own words, and use lexical calques from Russian or Estonian.

The last speakers of Votic speak different dialect.
This difference between dialects concerns lexicon and, what is more important from my point of view, the whole phonological system.

I do not know where the Wiki authors studied Votic but not from the native speakers (though there can be some exception).
Thus, from my point of view the Votic Wikipedia is written in some artificial language:
the previous speakers did not speak this way as they do not have such lexicon, the contemporary speakers use the dialect with different phonology and, sometimes, grammar. 

I also noticed some evident grammatical calques from Russian, e.g. (city) ležib 'lies', instead of  on 'is'.

Now all this looks like a game: Let us speak "Votic"!

However, I cannot propose something better for the current situation. Let it exist this way. It's better than nothing.

Concerning the menu translation the situation is the same. cülci for the 'page' looks especially weird, as it means '(body) side'.

If you have any other questions, please, feel free to contact me.

I don't know who is exactly that person, but it's a female professor of Helsinki University.

So thank you for your previous work, but that's not what we need. --Tomoi (diskussiitond) 15:25, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

8|: "However, I cannot propose something better for the current situation. Let it exist this way. It's better than nothing." Taaz cüzün: missi piti kõicci panna väl'l'ää? Miä že näütin kui saab cirjotta ilmaa abstraktnoit sõnoit, näit eb õõ tarviz калькировать viroo ceelessä vai venäje ceelessä.

cülci on ko miä duumaan samaa inehmizee võõdumka, ko vahtija: soomõõ sivu on agliciina viisii page ja tämä vaatab JTsv: tšültši "külg" (бок, сторона) ['kylki, laita, sivu'], niko viroo lehekülg-ci; siiz successor on soomõõ viisii seuraaja ja tämä vaatab JTsv: vahtima … 'seurata'], nii successor on siiz vad'd'aa viisii vahtija 'watcher'!

vaatamma siiz… nii FitzSæmParson (talk) 19:38, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

pls contact expert unif comrade unperson[edit source]

12.3.14 unencyclopædia vaporized, presumed oldthinkers unbellyfeel Ingsoc fullwise. MINITRUE rec all pages. mans want ownlang go joycamp.

rep expert

please, feel free to contact me.

pls contact comrade or provide with contact details FitzSæmParson (talk) 07:49, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Test-adminship[edit source]

Hi Tamara, your test-adminship for Wt/vep, Wp/vot and Wp/liv has expired. You can of course get it back when you need it. Best regards, --MF-W {a, b} 09:53, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Ter Sami[edit source]

What writing system are you using for Ter Sami?? I am very interested in this. McLennonSon (talk) 23:25, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Hanina Ranina by Kola Beldy[edit source]

Hello Tamara!

Maybe you have sufficient knowledge and competence to make a transcript of the song?

I would be grateful for your help.

--Hondurazian (talk) 19:46, 23 October 2019 (UTC)