User talk:Belkacem77

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New pages at Wb/kab/Asebter agejdan and Wy/kab[edit source]

Hi, Belkacem77. I have a question: Are you planning to create some real content to start these test projects, or are you just trying to set up infrastructure? If you are going to start creating some real content, that is fantastic, and we're very happy to have it. If all you are doing is marking a place where a future project could go at some time in the future, then it's better not to put placeholders in. Those locations will be ready and waiting for you whenever you (or whomever) is ready to start a real test project. Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:37, 25 August 2017 (UTC)


Hi Steven,

Sorry I don't how to answer. May be due to permissions. I'am trying to train people to translate and create Kabyle content on all Wikimedia products. So I'd like kab subdomains for Wikitionary and Wikibooks. For wikipedia, we alreadu got our subdomain.

Note that wa are now translating mediawiki on translatewiki.net.

M. Belkacem L10N Driver for Mozilla

I see. You can't have subdomains until there is an approvable project. But you can certainly write Wiktionary and Wikibooks content here on Incubator. Wiktionary page names will start Wt/kab/... and Wikibooks Wb/kab... Otherwise, it works just like a subdomain project.
I asked because we often get people who come by, create two pages like you did, and never return. So in those cases we don't want to leave useless pages lying around. But if people are actually going to write kab pages, even if not many, we're happy to have them.
The Wiktionary (Wt/kab) already has content. Just be respectful of the rules already in place there. I will create a root page for Wikibooks at (Wb/kab), and you should be good to go. If you want to write Wikivoyage pages, just copy what you wrote at Wb/kab/Asebter agejdan into a new page at Wy/kab/Asebter agejdan, adapting it as appropriate, and then you'll be ready to start there, too.
Be in touch if you have any questions. StevenJ81 (talk) 21:19, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
Wy/kab exists as tocreate for 3 months, @Belkacem77: do you still have interests on it? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:53, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks @StevenJ81: for you reply ,help and assistance. As I'm involved in several projects (Wikipedia, Wikistionnary. OSM, Oppia, Mozilla, I need more time to organize things. I will organize a training session for academicians (University of Tizi ouzou and Bejaia) to bring the university community to maintain Wikimedia products. I talked about them yesterday at Bejaia university during an international meet about Berber languages. Yes Wikipedia, Wikitionary, Wikibooks... are a priority but I need more people in my community (academacians) to support me and I'm going to give some traning sessions about Wikimedia products/projects and translation. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Belkacem77 (discussioncontribs) 15:15, 20 November 2017 (UTC).

Your email[edit source]

Questions like this should really be asked on wiki. Email should generally be used only for things that are confidential or otherwise can't be handled on wiki.

You asked: "How can I know how many words added to Wiktionary Kabyle? And when we can get a subdomain for kab Wiktionary? Is it a matter of a number of entries in the dictionary?"

In general, the number of entries can always be found by counting the number of pages shown here.

  • There is a way to set up an automatic counter that is reasonably accurate. I can help you with that if you like.

As to when you can get a subdomain, there are several requirements. The nature of all of these requirements is to make sure that new projects remain active; we don't want to create dormant projects.

  1. The number of entries is certainly one starting point. There is not an official minimum number of entries required. However, if you click on the link I provided just above, that page when full can hold about 350 entries. Until there are enough entries to make that spill over onto a second page, you almost certainly don't have enough. If you look at the list of Wiktionaries on Meta, you'll see that most Wiktionaries smaller than that are either closed or inactive, and they were generally created before the current rules for new projects were established. Wiktionaries that are active seem to have more than 1,000 content pages.
  2. The quality of the pages also matters.
    • I can't quite tell what the content of your pages is, and would invite you to create a test page in my administrative project (use Wp/qdp/Testpage, and don't worry that the prefix is Wp). Just translate a pretty complete page from your test into English or French there so I can see what you're trying to do.
    • You can see what the ideal type of Wiktionary entry would look like by going to a mature, established project like English or French Wiktionary and looking at random pages. But you can also see what is probably reasonable for a young project by looking at a Wiktionary that was recently created, like Fiji Hindi Wiktionary.
  3. You need to have a community actively contributing to your project. The minimum requirement is that for at least three months, and continuing until project approval, there must be at least three registered editors making ten edits each per month. They don't have to be the same three every month, and if you have established a pattern (say, for six months) and then miss a month, we won't kill you over it.
  4. You need to move forward the interface translation on translatewiki.net. See translatewiki:Special:LanguageStats/kab. This isn't a big problem for Kabyle, but do update the untranslated and outdated entries in the MediaWiki (most important messages) group, and try to push up the total percentage translated in the MediaWiki (core) group past 75%.

By the way, you created a page at "Wt/kab/Wt/kab". I assume that was a mistake, and deleted it.

I hope you found that helpful. Feel free to be in touch with any further questions. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:37, 17 July 2019 (UTC)