Incubator:Requests for deletions/Archive 3

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2019[edit]

Wikinews projects in languages of the Russian Federation[edit]

I'll wait to see how people respond here. I do keep in mind how much work it takes to keep a Wikinews project going. However, all three of these languages have Wikipedias already, so they presumably could have Wikinews projects if they wish (and get that far). And as the ongoing situation with Western Armenian Wikipedia attests, we can also manage to approve a project that has incubation content in two different places. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:21, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Wn/tt[edit]

I'm a bit confused by this test project, this looks like a Tatar language edition of Wikinews test project, which is however, according to Meta-Wiki notes, the Russian Wikinews already served Wikinews in this language, and a list of Tatar pages can also be found at n:ru:Категория:Бастырылган, so I'm wondering if Tatar users really wanna split their project or not.

Pinging ruwikinews sysops @Artem Korzhimanov, DonSimon, Krassotkin, Schekinov Alexey Victorovich, Ssr:@TarzanASG, Фильтр злоупотреблений: and ttwiki sysops@Derslek, Marat Vildanov, Marat-avgust, Фильтр злоупотреблений: to let them provide their opinions here. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:17, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

  • @Frhdkazan, Тимерхан: --Ssr (talk) 11:45, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
    • Russian Wikinews community deserves our gratitude for helping us within their Domestic multilingualism project, into which I contribute regularly. I would recommend to keep the separate test project, as it might eventually be better for us to move Tatar Wikinews into its own domain. At the moment, UG TAT members mainly concentrate their efforts in ttWP, but we already start seeing the benefits of having separate WikiBooks & see similar potential utility in the separate Wikinews (to lower the mandatory translation into Russian hurdle, which might eventually contribute into increasing participation). --Frhdkazan (talk) 12:08, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
  • I'm also confusing since there's problem with co-existing for two places for one language edition, because of Akan and Twi problem. --60.26.9.13 07:12, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Wn/myv[edit]

Like #Wn/tt above, the Russian Wikinews also have an Erzya Wikinews, list of Erzya pages: n:ru:Категория:Нолдазь

Pinging myvwiki sysops @Erzianj jurnalist, Rueter, А тевде сувтеме:. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:36, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

And ping two more members of m:Wikimedians of Erzya language User Group @Kaftaj, ZUFAr: --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:19, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Please, keep this project. I hope we can start separately from russian wikinews. --Kaftaj (talk) 06:54, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Wn/sah[edit]

Like #Wn/tt above, the Russian Wikinews also have a Sakha/Yakut Wikinews, list of Sakha/Yakut pages: n:ru:Категория:Бэчээттэммит

Pinging sahwiki sysops @Egerman, HalanTul, Kyraha, Омсолоох дьайыы фильтра:. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk)

These are two different approaches with different goals. For us, the test project is the predecessor of the project entirely in Sakha. Sakha news in the Russian Wikinews is a way to popularize Wikinews in the Sakha Republic, a way to support its Russian colleagues, a way to spread important republican news, as well as training. --HalanTul (talk) 22:52, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

For all[edit]

  • Keep. These are two different approaches with different goals. There is writing multilingual news on Russian Wikinews. But here are separate language editions of Wikinews on Incubator. These approaches are not interchangeable. I hope these two independent approaches together will help create own Wikinews editions for these languages. --sasha (krassotkin) 17:41, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep, per above. By way, was created "soft redirect" for Wn/ba. Maybe would be a good idea to create similar templates for other languages from this list. --Kaganer (talk) 20:38, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
    We can do that eventually. But we'd handle it differently, since projects also exist here. Hold off for the moment. StevenJ81 (talk) 21:12, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
    Yes, this may be combined: Project design in the Incubator and working space in the Russian Wikinews. --Kaganer (talk) 22:51, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep per above from top to bottom: it's true that two approaches can be later combined and interlinked. This, I believe, will help in integration and training because all national speakers also speak Russian and talk in Russian to each other. Many (or most) multilingual Wikinews stories written during this project describe events related to Wikimedia across Russia: all that serves global development of Wikimedia movement. In the past I also was trying to collaborate with English Wikinews, because a lot of these people also speak English (1, 2, 3, 4), but now they seem to possess unacceptable policies. Russian Wikinews have valuable experience useful for future, e. g. multiple interface translations. So that, this is just the way to go. --Ssr (talk) 15:25, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done It seems there are good reasons to keep parallel efforts going for now. I'm going to take any similar requests as being off-limits for a minimum of one year. (Requests for different reasons—particularly because of core rules violations like copyright and BLP—are always allowed, of course.) StevenJ81 (talk) 21:56, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Wp/msv[edit]

The msv points to a Cameroon language called Maslam, but the main page was using Cyrillic which doesn't seem true per Ethnologue. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 14:27, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Already deleted by MF-Warburg. StevenJ81 (talk) 22:00, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Wp/hsn/南小鳥[edit]

Copy from lzh:伶生就志記#南小鳥(南_ことり), the article are written in literature Chinese, not in Xiang. --夢蝶葬花 (talk) 05:59, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done StevenJ81 (talk) 22:01, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Wp/kjv[edit]

More than 3 weeks and no contents created here. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:46, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done StevenJ81 (talk) 14:26, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Wy/hr[edit]

Created for two weeks, but still nothing else contributed. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 07:35, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done StevenJ81 (talk) 14:36, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Wn/kk, Wp/apd, Wp/pst, Wp/zro[edit]

And probably also Wp/ruo and Wp/ukl. The requests are about the info pages. As they are not extinct languages, they should either be deleted or rewrittened so that they does not discourage creation of a future proper test project.--GZWDer (talk) 21:41, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

  • You make a fair point. I'll try to get to these in the next few days. StevenJ81 (talk) 22:58, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose for Wp/pst, it's just a rural area speaked dialect of Pashto, and has no significant differents between other Pashto dialects (for more reason of this, consult @The Amjad: separately) and that, hence the pst speakers should better keep contributing the Pashto Wikipedia ps.wikipedia.org, no oppose comments for others, aka feel free to delete others. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:55, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done, except with respect to Wp/pst.
@Liuxinyu970226, The Amjad: Based on the Wikipedia article, I read the situation on Central Pashto differently: that it is a standardized, prestige dialect of Pashto. That would probably make it even more likely not to be appropriate for its own project separate from the existing Pashto Wikipedia. But before I finalize this, can anyone please commment? StevenJ81 (talk) 14:52, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
On no further comments, I'm closing this as it currently stands: leaving the page at Wp/pst as it is, while the others were deleted or reset. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:06, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Wp/hep[edit]

Not a valid ISO code. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 22:24, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done StevenJ81 (talk) 16:18, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Wp/ron[edit]

Already having ro: for them. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 22:44, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Both of these will eventually be removed. But I'm willing to wait long enough for (a) the creator of the Wp/hep pages to answer me about moving them to Incubator Plus, and (b) the creator of the Wp/ron pages to answer you. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:54, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done StevenJ81 (talk) 16:18, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Wp/sot[edit]

Already exists at st:. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:12, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Will give a day or two to let the user copy the one content page to st:. StevenJ81 (talk) 04:14, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
The one content page was copied. Therefore, now Yes check.svg Done. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:21, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Wp/sfa[edit]

Invalid coded project created by IP. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 22:48, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done StevenJ81 (talk) 15:58, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

User talk:Lzhwp[edit]

I request this page in User_talk:StevenJ81#You've_got_mail!,and feel this page have rollback version on it (can rollback to the revision 'the welcoming bot's standard message'),I request to undelete it.--MCC214 (talk) 06:47, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done There is no point, because the user account is globally locked. StevenJ81 (talk) 20:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Isn't this already deleted by Ooswesthoesbes? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 22:05, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
MCC214 was requesting an undelete. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:27, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Wp/prs[edit]

This project does have a valid ISO language code, but is not sufficiently distinct from Persian (see Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Dari), and has been moved to Incubator Plus 2.0. --Agusbou2015 (talk) 21:54, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

@Hariva, Mjbmr, ExplodingPoPUps: Dear all contributors, agree or not? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 22:12, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

I only did some experimental edit on it to see if there is any editor. I think it can be deleted because after all these years no user contributed to it.--2607:FEA8:C31F:FFBE:F04D:6339:4211:A77E 05:11, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

I think we can probably do this. Give me a day to set up a new template like {{wikia}} so that I can point people to the test at the new Incubator Plus and then I will do this. StevenJ81 (talk) 21:57, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Update: I've got a phabricator in to create a direct interwiki link to the new Incubator Plus. After that gets finished I will address all of this. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:49, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done StevenJ81 (talk) 18:20, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Wp/sei[edit]

See m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Seri and mailarchive:langcom/2019-August/002394.html. This was apparently "outed" as fake about ten years ago, and almost no new pages have been created since. So I propose to archive and delete. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:49, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

I agree. --OWTB (talk) 15:41, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done StevenJ81 (talk) 14:17, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Wt/cop[edit]

An extinct language, plus there are no pages and there's no Meta request. Random Wikimedian (talk) 14:00, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

There are a couple of pages. See Special:PrefixIndex/Wt/cop/. Usually, unless such pages are outright inappropriate, we tend to leave them around. Is there a problem with them? StevenJ81 (talk) 14:49, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
@Random Wikimedian: I moved your previous request to the bottom, because new requests go at the bottom. And I already responded just above. Can you answer that question, please? StevenJ81 (talk) 14:31, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: I didn't realize that, sorry. Random Wikimedian (talk) 12:13, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
X mark.svg Not done. There is also a community that works on Wp/cop. We're going to leave the Wt/cop pages in place in case they need them. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:18, 17 October 2019 (UTC)