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Latinized Russian (Wp/ru-lat)[edit]

Rejected on Meta as nonsence. Should be deleted --VasilievVV 16:22, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

support support After a new look. It's was against meta's policy: no valid code, just another writingsystem... Maybe it can be used over 45 000 years when they use latin writing in Russia, but now move it. -Markvondeegel 16:25, 3 September 2007 (UTC) Changed my vote on: -Markvondeegel 16:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
support support deletion. Latinized Russian is ridiculous, but I have nothing against moving it to Incubator Plus. SPQRobin 16:31, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
support support deletion per all above and all said in MetaWiki discussion. Maybe moving shouldn't be done too, because of easiness of recreation, but I won't object if moving will be done. — 16:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)That was me. — Kalan 17:01, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Maybe we can change the policy to make moving of a rejected test from the Incubator Plus to the Wikimedia Incubator unpossible? -Markvondeegel 17:02, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
support support langcom denied as a nonsense. MF-Warburg 16:57, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
support support per MF-Warburg. --Obersachse 17:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Comment Comment Isn't this a vote? -Markvondeegel 17:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
what do you mean? MF-Warburg 17:17, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I think this is more a vote than an argument. As far as I know, most of us aren't active contributors to the test. -Markvondeegel 17:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Bwa, you may vote, but it has just a little bit influence, arguments have more influence. SPQRobin 17:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
support support deletion, kwatsj/nonsense. It's just like Limburgish in Arabian writing, English in Korean writing or Swedish in Cyrillic writing. Moving to Plus-Incubator won't be a problem to me. --Ooswesthoesbes 17:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
support support now we needn't it in Incubator. --Flrn 11:41, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
oppose oppose It was a good test, but abandoned because of the destructiveness of the langcom. SF-Language 10:06, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
support support nonsence, has no sence. Wikjba'cakp' 17:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
support support deletion, but I have to say I don't like Cyrillic writing, I like Latin writing. Adeiqha 18:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
No lqah' jba' Rosocc? Wikjba'cakp' 09:37, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
support support The likelihood of this proposal ever being approved by Wikimedia is hugely remote. --Jose77 23:28, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
support support deletion, there is obviously no reason now to wait a whole year ∴ Alex Smotrov 15:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Here's the decision: no ISO code, so speedy delete, but we should ask the test contributors before whether they want us to move it to Incubator Plus. --MF-W {a, b} Visit IRC! 10:36, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Note: You said "no ISO code", but this has an ISO code: ru-latn. SPQRobin 13:46, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Ok, then: delete because it's just nonsense? --MF-W {a, b} Visit IRC! 05:55, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Final Decision: delete. it's just nonsense etc. and ru-latn isn't a real ISO code (I think). Also the test is inactive since langcom denied. --MF-W {a, b} Visit IRC! 14:25, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Aeres Wikinews (Wn/aeres)[edit]

  1. No Wikipedia
  2. All other Wikimedia projects are at
  3. Won't ever have activity

I propose to delete it. Or move it to -Markvondeegel 15:29, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

support support and I don't think this need votes and other arguments. SPQRobin 15:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
support support I also just had the idea to delete this. MF-Warburg 16:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
support support moving to Wikjba'cakp' 17:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted: moved to Aeres Wikia -Markvondeegel 12:07, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Twents Wikipedia (Wp/twd)[edit]

Inactive for over a year, can be moved to Incubator Plus.

Inakccife jka' 12cjamn', lqah' a' Incubator Plus jmoq' jba' mi. Wikjba'cakp' 09:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Speedy delete per I:P --VasilievVV 11:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done, speedy deleted because it has no ISO code and is inactive. Moved to incubator Plus: wikiasite:incubatorplus:Wp/twd. --MF-W {a, b} Visit IRC! 13:44, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

West frisian (Wp/x-West Frisian (creol))[edit]

No valid ISO code, is it a fork of fy:? - VasilievVV 14:15, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Looks so. --MF-W {a, b} Visit IRC! 14:28, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • oppose oppose West Frisian is a language spoken in North Holland in the Netherlands. I'm totally against deletion, but if it has to go away of the Wikimedia Incubator please move it to the Incubator Plus. --Ooswesthoesbes 15:08, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
eh, there is fy: - is this the same language? en:West Frisian language tells that fy is ISO code for it, so it could be moved to Wp/fy. --MF-W {a, b} Visit IRC! 15:33, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
No, it's not. Normal West Frisian (fy) is Fries in Dutch. West Frisian (creol) is Westfries in Dutch and are very different languages, but they are related somehow. --Ooswesthoesbes 15:35, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Ok, it may be a different language, but it doesn't have an valid ISO code (you can look for it better), so it should be deleted/moved to Incubator+ - VasilievVV
Ok, it's the policy. But I'm totally against deletion. If it needs to go away. It needs to go to the + incubator. --Ooswesthoesbes 18:05, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Please change the note on the mainpage that says 'How to use this Wiki' and note somewhere that tests without a vailid ISO-code need to go to the Incubator +. --Ooswesthoesbes 05:15, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Just to be sure: we are not discussing a Frisian variant here. Westfries is a Dutch dialect group, but a distinct one indeed. Just read and compare. The code is surely invalid; a valid code could be nl-wfr. I oppose oppose deletion. The dialect group is quite distinct, well defined and the test wiki has done very well for the past few months. Indeed, I am against removing any healthy test wiki, unless it's a hoax. Steinbach 18:29, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • oppose oppose please read your own policy: You can propose a deletion of a test language. You may only propose a deletion of a test language which does not have a proposal on Meta or is rejected by the langcom. . It's not rejected, but has an open proposal at meta. Close this discussion and KEEP? Wikjba'cakp' 13:56, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
If it has a proposal on meta, mark it with template like {{open or conditional}} --VasilievVV 15:12, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
  • No real ISO-code, but it has been created before the policy came. I oppose oppose deletion. It's a different language than fy:. -Markvondeegel 14:19, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
  • oppose oppose deletion. One should be carefull in removing projects which may contain real information not available elsewhere in Wikipedia. Apart from that, Westfries is a clearly distinguished Dutch dialect with considerable Frisian content, which I investigated some years ago: Hoefrysk. --Pyt 09:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC). (Short diagram captions in English.)

Please read this to make some points clear:

I really want to oppose the deletion, but I can't. It does not make any sense, because the langcom doesn't allow languages without a valid ISO-code, so unfortunately we may not allow them either. If we would allow them, then it really makes no sense, because we can assure you that the langcom will reject the language.

This is for both valuable languages and less valuable languages.

Sorry. SPQRobin 15:42, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

The policy doesn't make clear that we have to move or delete old tests from before the new policy if they have no ISO code. -Markvondeegel 15:44, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Hmpf... Yes, but again, it makes no sense because it will be rejected by the langcom. And it is IMO useless to hold tests which will be rejected. SPQRobin 19:25, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Well then, is there an alternative for them?--Pyt 08:18, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I propose to close this vote because it's against the deletion policy: You can propose a deletion of a test language. You may only propose a deletion of a test language which does not have a proposal on Meta or is rejected by the langcom. The not-rejected proposal at meta can be found here -Markvondeegel 07:55, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Result: KEEP. --MF-W {a, b} Visit IRC! 17:17, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

1337 Wikipedia (Wp/137)[edit]

I think this Wikipedia does not meet the language requirements, due to lack of ISO code. -- 15:11, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

DELETED: just some nonsense vandalism. No need to vote about this one. -Markvondeegel 15:36, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Ikodo Wikipedia (Wp/ikodobo/)[edit]

Does this language exist? Neither Wikipedia nor Google can identify it. -- 15:26, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

deleted by SPQRobin. --MF-W {a, b} Visit IRC! 15:26, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

en terech. --Ooswesthoesbes 15:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


wp/sak, wp/skh[edit]

All invalid:, This is definitely not one of those African or Indonesian languages. --Ooswesthoesbes 11:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree. --MF-W {a, b} 11:50, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
No code = no test, unfortunately. SPQRobin 11:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

DELETE. no code, no test. Doesn't need discussion. --MF-W {a, b} 14:39, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Deleted. Angela 03:05, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Category:Tuscan Wikipedia[edit]

Was rejected by Langcom due to missing ISO code: meta:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Tuscan. Raymond 15:51, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

support support as request. Raymond 15:51, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Should not need any voting, because tests without an ISO code should be deleted anyway. SPQRobin 15:58, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done by bot. --MF-W {a, b} 14:53, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Category:Ancient greek Wikipedia[edit]

Was rejected by Langcom because it is an ancient language: meta:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Ancient Greek 2. Raymond 18:06, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

support support as request. Raymond 18:06, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
oppose oppose (maybe support, but certainly a temporary oppose). Can be used for later use in a Wikisource (or for a new Wikipedia proposal). SPQRobin 21:19, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Hmmm... I looked through most of the pages. I do not understand the language but I think I am able to recognize if there are Wikisource content. And what do you mean with a new Wikipedia proposal? It was rejected. Why (and when) should the Langcom made a contrary decision? Raymond 21:50, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
The langcom still has discussions about Wikipedias in ancient languages. They might approve wikis with many or no derived languages. Ancient Greek has inflewenced almost all languages on the world. Because of this I oppose oppose --Ooswesthoesbes 06:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
oppose oppose I at least believe that it shouldn't be deleted and nothing more. It should at least be transferred to the inc-plus, so people can continue working on it (and the interfacetranslation) and prove that this project has got potential (something that I am convinced of) and is worthy of a wikipedia of its own (just like the latin wp). Nychus 11:46, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
oppose oppose-- 21:56, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Why in this request do not apply the same criterion of classical Japanese and ottoman turkish, that we can see below (X mark.svg Not done). this apparent a mercilessness.

X mark.svg Not done (I'm sorry, I thought I had written the same here as below, but I forgot it, apparently) SPQRobin 14:54, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Category:Ottoman Turkish Wikipedia[edit]

Was rejected by Langcom because it is an ancient language: meta:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia_Ottoman_Turkish_2.

support support for the policy

X mark.svg Not done - Had been discussed in mailing lists etc. Could be still approved by the langcom. SPQRobin 22:04, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Category:Classical Japanese Wikipedia[edit]

Was rejected by Langcom because it is an ancient language: meta:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia_Classical_Japanese_2.

support support for the policy

X mark.svg Not done - Had been discussed in mailing lists etc. Could be still approved by the langcom. SPQRobin 22:04, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Category:Tuscan Wikipedia[edit]

Was rejected by Langcom due to missing ISO code: meta:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Tuscan. Raymond 15:51, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done by User:MF-Warburg. SPQRobin 22:04, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Wp/ukl Ukrainian Latin Wikipedia[edit]

Rejected - meta:Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ukrainian_Latin. ukl code is wrong - it is a code for Ukrainian Sign Language, not for Ukrainian in Latin script. A.M.D.F. 17:39, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done SPQRobin 22:04, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

wp/rvs en:Rövarspråket[edit]

Not a language and rvs code does not exist. A.M.D.F. 14:54, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done - it is a swedish language game. --MF-W {a, b} 16:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


Latina Wikinews[edit]

the current policy only allow wikisource in dead languages.

Discussion on m:Requests for new languages/Wikinews Latina is active. It will be deleted when it has been rejected. SPQRobin 23:11, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Rejected, deleted. You can get the xml file --MF-W {a, b} 21:38, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


Same nonsense as pre-reform russian and with no code it can't get its own project anyway. -- 22:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

I asked the user about the test wiki. If he doesn't answer, I'll delete it. SPQRobin 23:34, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes check.svg 'deleted.' (you can get the xml file of the 2 pages if you want) --MF-W {a, b} 21:36, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Wp/jpn-classical and Wp/jpn-bungo[edit]

These are both rejected, and don't have a valid ISO 639 code ("ojp" exists, but isn't used - it's complicated).

I will export them to a XML file as usual. SPQRobin 19:14, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Strange conlang called "Krymchak" (jct)[edit]

Here is stated that it is Wikipedia in the Krymchak language. But it is not Krymchak at all. It is a conlang with purely Turkish grammar and its lexics is also in general Turkish, but with additions of Kypchak-looking words. I propose the deleition of this so-called Krymchak wikipedia. Don Alessandro 15:07, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I will export it to an XML file and delete. --MF-W {a, b} 18:21, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Update: This test has been restored because it emerged that this is not Turkish but a valid test. --MF-W {a, b} 16:33, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

One more conlang[edit]

I've found one more here. The "Pecheneg" wikipedia. Pecheneg language is Turkic language extinct since 12-th century. We have no historical written documents in Pecheneg, the only things we know about this language is the fact that it was Turkic (probably Oghuz), and the only known Pecheneg words are some toponyms and human names. So, Pecheneg language cannot be reconstructed due to the lack of information about it. The so called Pecheneg of here is totally invented by its author. Don Alessandro 15:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Will be deleted by bot. --MF-W {a, b} 18:21, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Makki Ta[edit]

All Makki Ta articles are now moved to Incubator Plus, so they can be removed from here. --Filemon 12:36, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Please note that only wp/art-da has been moved. --OWTB 15:34, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done - I have a xml file. Abigor talk 15:40, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


Seems like a fork of Latin. Also Wp/abc/Arog and all the templates. -- 18:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Deleted. SPQRobin 15:47, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


Language probably invented by the user (0 Google hits except Incubator), invalid code, only 2 pages (Wp/Isat and Wp/Isat/Paga Prinspaga). --Filemon 17:53, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

deleted. --MF-W {a, b} 11:05, 23 October 2009 (UTC)


Language used only in "Commonesia" on Clydish Empire Wiki (Wikia), no valid code, only one page. --Filemon 12:07, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


Yet another artificial language of one person. Not used outside Incubator. --Filemon 12:07, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Note: this category contains artificial language "Sciena" articles and Scanian language articles, but none of them have ISO code. --Filemon 12:12, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
  • I added it to todel. (no valid code) --MF-W {a, b} 01:43, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes check.svg deleted --MF-W {a, b} 17:45, 14 February 2010 (UTC)


Wp/pt-br & Wp/pt-BR/Página principal[edit]

Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia has been rejected by the Langcom as it's not a separate language; so I don't see a reason why we should host these ~800 pages any further. --MF-W {a, b} 20:08, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

I will delete the pt-br pages if there is no objection in 3 days. --MF-W {a, b} 01:36, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Since no one can create a new Wikipedia in brasilian portuguese (not even european portuguese) doesn't make any sense keeping those pages here. New projects must be in a language with a valid ISO code (meta:WM:LPP#Requisites). Portuguese language have only one code: "pt" in ISO 639-1[1] and "por" in ISO 639-2[2] and ISO 639-3[3]. That's why a recent proposal was rejected in January by the language committee justifying Brazilian Portuguese is not a separate language.. this is a requirement. Mosca 18:33, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Stock post message.svg Doing...  17:34, 21 February 2010 (UTC) Yes check.svg 'deleted' --MF-W {a, b} 15:02, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


Invalid code cc and a name Chukotko-Kamchatkan, which is not a language but a language family. амдф 17:23, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

I've left a note on Talk:Wp/cc/Пасук Канов and a notice on Wp/cc/Пасук Канов which he - hopefully - will see. I wanted to left a note on the user's talk page, but it's an anonymous with a changing IP address, so that's not possible. If he doesn't answer, I'll move or delete it. SPQRobin 18:59, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
The language of a test looks like a en:Romanic language written in Cyrillic. амдф 09:58, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
I don't think so (although it has some loanwords like контрибутор). SPQRobin 10:59, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
An artifical language of 1 person. амдф 19:40, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

(no pages existed as of 19:17, 19 January 2011 (UTC), when I archived this section --MF-W {a, b} 19:17, 19 January 2011 (UTC))

DELETE Wp/vi-nom test wiki (moved here from I:AN)[edit]

please delete the Wp/vi-nom test wiki. it has an invalid code. -- 20:33, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

  • There is no valid code; this is just an old writing system, so chanches to get approved by Langcom are low. delete. --MF-W {a, b} 01:38, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
  • I contacted the main contributor and he seems to be ok with deleting this test: User_talk:Sky_Darmos#deletion_request_on_vi-nom. --MF-W {a, b} 01:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
  • I contacted the main contributor of this Chu Nom Incubator Test Page. He is acknowledges the fact that he cannot speak fluent Vietnamese. Maybe still around the beginner level of Vietnamese. He relies mainly on his knowledge of Chinese characters and vocabulary. Also, he refuses to write words which can never be written using Chu Nom (words borrowed from French and other languages which is impossible to transcribe using Chu Nom) Furthermore, he is practicing linguistic prescriptivism and egoistic choices thereby deviating from reality to mere preference. (For example, he chooses a certain Chu Nom character not because it was actually used in the past, not withstanding that CHu Nom is not only ideographic but also borrowed phonetic in nature, but because he thinks that the character is more preferable judging from Chinese definitions and parameters.) He does not want to use simplified or abbreviated Chinese characters/radicals even if there are tons of books and evidences that those characters were actually used. He prefers non-simplified/abbreviated characters. He does not rely/study from Chu Nom books but relies only on dictionaries. Chinese dictionaries. Dictionaries give everything but not all in those dictionaries were actually used. Chu Nom is Vietnamese. Even if originated from Chinese characters, there are many principles or rules that are only found or practiced in CHu Nom which may not agree with the original Chinese ones. How can we trust someone like him when he can't even speak intermediate Vietnamese to give us quality and correct materials on this test page? isn't it supposed to be that the contributors to these pages are native and fluent speakers/writers of languages/scripts?? What does a person like him know about our language, its etymologies, its logic?

His "rules on choosing Chu Nom characters" is afflicted by his ego. He said not to use simplfied/abbreviated characters, yet he kept on using 𧗱 for "về"....even if 𧗱 is not listed as simplified in China, Korea, and Japan, common sense would tell you that 𧗱 sprouted from 衛....Thus, an abbreviation of it. He dont want to use it because the meaning of 衛/𧗱 is not the same with the Vietnamese "về"'to return'

He is not even a Vietnamese like us yet he shows a significant amount of arrogance thinking that he knows everything because he knows Chinese. He also negates widely accepted facts (He carelessly refuses to accept the information from the Vietnamese Nom Preservation Foundation that there are less than 100 people who can read and write fluent Chu Nom worldwide). He is partially racist in nature. At the beginning, he called our old Chu Nom Writing Norm (using borrowed Chinese characters phonetically for Vietnamese words) as "lazy writing". It's offensive and is an insult to us Vietnamese, to our ancestors.

Judging from the way he reacted when he was told about the deletion of the Chu Nom test page only shows his arrogance. How can we entrust these things to an arrogant non-Vietnamese? He is not even a Vietnamese....He cannot speak good Vietnamese.....Not even Asian how dare he call the writing norm of our ancestors as lazy?

--Nguyễn Xuân Lâm 阮春林NguyenXuanLam 03:09, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

First of all, thank you for informing us on this. This, however, is not the place to decide on internal disputes (however we Incubator admins will willingly try to help you on that, if the test will not be deleted).
Here, the task is to decide whether the vi-nom test project should be deleted or not (because of the lack of a proper ISO code). So, what do you say about this? --MF-W {a, b} 20:34, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
I am hoping that it wont get deleted just because it doesn't have a proper ISO code. In my opinion, as well as some Vietnamese, chữ Nôm is not only a writing system but a language. Non-Vietnamese would think that it is just Vietnamese written in different writing system. Since when one writes in Chu Nom, it is some kind of writing with a different style close to that of Classical Vietnamese involving many syntax and grammatical discourses not used in modern Vietnamese that much. Chu Nom is not merely converting a Quoc Ngu text into characters. but it's up to the Administrators to decide. But I hope it wont get deleted. --Nguyễn Xuân Lâm 阮春林NguyenXuanLam 23:59, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Decision: This test will be deleted. 1.)It has no valid ISO code 2.) As a historical script, it is similar to a historical language and policy says that "Only Wikisource wikis in ancient or historical languages are accepted, because there are no living native communities to use other resources." The test pages were exported into an XML file and can be imported to Incubator Plus or be sent to you by mail, if you wish. --MF-W {a, b} 18:09, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


I just discovered wp/qya. Qya is the code for "Quenya", a language invented by J.R.R. Tolkien (probably used in one of his books). As this is nonsense that will never get approved by the Langcom (similar: "Klingon Wikipedia", which was closed), I propose to delete it. --MF-W {a, b} 18:40, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes check.svg deleted --MF-W {a, b} 18:41, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done It's still there. TeleComNasSprVen 08:04, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

(It was done, regardless of that comment above, and seems to have moved to Wikia - see wp/qya --MF-W {a, b} 19:30, 19 January 2011 (UTC))


Incubator:Requests for deletions#Tests 1: "Tests that are inactive for over a year will be deleted." This stale/inactive wiki has no content whatsoever and has remained so for over a year and a half; it's time to let this one offline. TeleComNasSprVen 08:04, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

keep since it is linked to from -- Prince Kassad 16:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done - The status is to create and the page exists as it's linked from the closed in order to make it easier for people who look there to find out how to contribute in/create this test wiki. --MF-W {a, b} 16:22, 24 October 2010 (UTC)


Was rejected by the langcom (m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Phoenician 2), and it seems impossible to create a Wikipedia in this language due to poor attestation. The creator of the test admitted he had to create new words because they don't exist in Phoenician. -- 12:30, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes check.svg deleted --MF-W {a, b} 19:30, 19 January 2011 (UTC)


Created in 2006 with no history of useful transclusions to be found anywhere. This template is clearly not needed. TeleComNasSprVen 08:04, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes check.svg deleted. It seemed to be meant for making test deletion requests easier, however was never used. --MF-W {a, b} 19:30, 19 January 2011 (UTC)



The Moldovan language Incubator should be deleted, because there is no ISO code for that language. As per ISO 639-2 Registration Authority, they were removed on 3 November, 2008:

The identifiers mo and mol are deprecated, leaving ro and ron (639-2/T) and rum (639-2/B) the current language identifiers to be used for the variant of the Romanian language also known as Moldavian and Moldovan in English and moldave in French. (source: The Library of Congress - ISO 639-2 Registration Authority / SIL)

Also, as you may know, this Wikipedia already exists (being created automaticaly at the beginnings of Wikipedia), but it is frozen because there were no native speakers interested in editing it. No new changes are permited to that Wikipedia. --Danutz 19:29, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

I agree, it is the same language as Romanian, so that Wikipedia can be used. --MF-W {a, b} 19:37, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
I think it can be deleted as there are now more than 10 days since the proposal. Please also have a look at Meta:Proposals for closing projects/Deletion of Moldovan Wikipedia. --Danutz 22:16, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes check.svg deleted --MF-W {a, b} 22:27, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


Per above reasoning, created by TeleComNasSprVen 23:55, 6 February 2011 (UTC)


Wikiversity has branched off Wikibooks as its own separate wiki project some time ago, so this outdated page seems moot. TeleComNasSprVen 00:59, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

It could also be an info page to inform users of this fact, no? --MF-W {a, b} 15:33, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

(was not done)

Wt/ngy/Template:Test wiki[edit]

We already have local duplicates at Template:Test wiki and Template:Test wiki/validcode, so these are not needed. TeleComNasSprVen 08:35, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

done --MF-W {a, b} 15:35, 22 March 2011 (UTC)


We generally don't need a gallery of lighthouses to illustrate to us what a lighthouse is; other wikis generally need only one or two pictures to demonstrate the nature of a lighthouse, and can get them from commons:. (trying to clean up unlicensed images in Special:ListFiles here) TeleComNasSprVen 07:09, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I removed the gallery and kept one image there. --MF-W {a, b} 18:06, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your help removing the images. I think that we could strike the page and maybe consider it kept for now. :) TeleComNasSprVen 22:55, 5 April 2011 (UTC)


This language already exists at cu:. The Meta request was rejected by the langcom. -- 10:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

I think the proposer has meant that Church Slavonic and Old Church Slavonic are not the same. But for now they share the same ISO 639 code, so separate project isn't possible. амдф 10:49, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Deleted and made it refer to the existing project. SPQRobin 19:05, 3 June 2011 (UTC)


LangCom has rejected the request for this test wiki as an invalid ISO-code (historical). TeleComNasSprVen 21:09, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

They can have their place here. SPQRobin 19:00, 3 June 2011 (UTC)


LangCom has rejected the request for this test wiki as an invalid ISO-code (historical). TeleComNasSprVen 07:39, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Not Wikiquote, that request is still open, and I think they accept Wikiquotes in ancient languages. -- 21:48, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Definitly no. There is a strong support for these projects in the community. There is even a proposal to change the admission policy of projects, that allows wikipedia in Ancient Greek. Crazymadlover.
They can have their place here. SPQRobin 19:06, 3 June 2011 (UTC)


Rejected on Meta. I consider a multilingual WMF project out of scope of the Incubator. -- 21:51, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Deleted. SPQRobin 19:00, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Test wikis created by Marrovi[edit]

For some time now, User:Marrovi has been going around creating test-wikis in languages he doesn't speak, with no request on Meta.

I am requesting some of them to be closed because:

1) There are no requests on meta. 2) He copied the text directly from other test wikis, not even changing language names or information, thus creating confusing and wrong pages.

So I am requesting deletion of:

If you will notice, many of the main pages of these are just copies of Wp/yaq's main page, including the language name "Yaqui" and all the article links untranslated (ie., they are still in Yaqui!). Also, any articles that exist in these are only 1 word long, or just have pictures, or only contain the Spanish translation. So these are essentially useless at the moment, and of course have no requests on meta. Thank you. --Node ue 19:57, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

I agree that these created pages are unneeded, but note that not having a request at meta has nothing to do with this. SPQRobin 23:40, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
(No request on Meta, however, is needed that a test may be deleted) --MF-W {a, b} 00:16, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Yes SPQRobin, I was under the impression that "no request at Meta" was one of the conditions under which tests could be deleted (others are not a valid code, request was rejected, wrong language) --Node ue 21:31, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
Indeed it is. I even introduced that rule. I should at least know my own policy :-) We might want to revise that however. SPQRobin 10:15, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
I think that we should warn him to not create them too. Delete. Ebe123 (Talkabout it|contribs) 11:18, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
How about that when we find one like that, we delete it on sight. Ebe123 (Talkabout it|contribs) 11:20, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
What is wrong with those test wikis being essentially useless? Incubator should be open to anyone wanting to contribute to any wiki in their language. Whether it contains one page or a thousand, Incubator is free as long as the language is valid. SPQRobin 23:40, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
I agree, to a point. Users should always be free to create content in their language, even if they only create a little and there's no proposal on Meta. However, this freedom shouldn't extend to users like Marrovi or Jose77 to create dozens of useless empty test wikis in languages they do not speak and for which there is no current native speaker interest in starting a project. Case in point, the Kiliwa Test Wikipedia started by Marrovi, Kiliwa has under 100 speakers, probably none of them knows how to use a computer, all of them speak Spanish... if someone who speaks Kiliwa wants to start a test wiki in the language I would be delighted, but Marrovi does not speak it and most of his creations are just useless. --Node ue 08:41, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
I repell what I said because of what Marrovi wrote on my talk page:

Ebe123; haz lo que mejor te parezca y creas conveniente, yo nunca tuve una mala intensión de ir en contra de las políticas que uds. manejan en el uso de la incubadora, solo quise mortrarles un poco de la riqueza cultural que tenemos en México y América Latina para ir abriendo poco a poco nuevos espacios en las lenguas indígenas americanas, como tú mismo lo dices, yo no hablo estas lenguas de manera materna, pero tengo bastante material que hubiera podido compartirles pensando que estos espacios actuaban de buen fe, que tonto fui en confiar que aquí se podría tener conocimiento valioso para la humanidad. En los días pasados charlaba con hablantes de la lengua cakchiquel de Guatemala y se estaba planteando iniciar un proyecto en esta lengua nativa, pero debo alertarles ahora que ya no podemos ocupar estos espacios en la red, mejor busquemos otros vínculos donde no se tenga que pasar reclamos y malos entendidos.--Marrovi 06:58, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

It said that he made them in good faith so never intended to break the policies. Now, I say keep. Ebe123 (Talkabout it|contribs) 10:07, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
Translation (with no guarantee of correctness, but G. Translate give sth. similar...): Do what seems to be the best to you and what you deem to be appropiate, I never had a bad intention of going against the policies that you maintain in the use of Incubator, I only wanted to show (mostrar?) you a bit of the cultural richness that we have in Mexico and Latin America in order to gradually open up new spaces in the indigenous American languages, as you say yourself, I don't speak these languages as my mother tongue, but I have a lot of material that I could have shared, thinking that these spaces resulted out of good faith, that I was stupid to believe in that here valuable knowledge could be held avaiable for humanity. In the past days I talked to speakers of the Cakchiquel language of Guatemala and the topic of initiating a project in that native language was brought up, but I now have to alert them that already we can't occupy the spaces in the internet and would better search for other links [sites?] where there are no reclamations (complaints?) and misunderstandings. --MF-W {a, b} 13:38, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
My response to him was this:
"Marrovi, I don't think you've understood what's happening here. If you're in contact with native speakers of a particular language, that's great, and I assure you their contributions will be welcome here and that any thing they write will not be deleted ever. Right now we are talking about a different case. What you have done is go around creating tests in languages that you have no idea about, such as Kiliwa for example. In the case of Kakchikel, there is a pretty high possibility of attracting native speakers to develop content in their language. In the case of the Kiliwa language, I don't think it's probable that we'll find native speakers to collaborate and develop a Wikipedia, since there are only less than 100 speakers left, all of them live in very remote villages and prefer to speak Spanish.
The problem with the tests you have created is that you have created tests which cannot be developed; for example look at the O'odham test Wikipedia, it's pretty obvious that you didn't spend much time on developing it because where it should say "O'odham" it says "Yaqui", and all of the names of the articles are in Yaqui (ie it is pretty obvious that you copied the contents of the Yaqui test wiki and then pasted them there without changing anything). And we see that you have done exactly the same on several other tests you've created. There's no problem creating tests in languages of Mexico, but if you were thinking of doing that, why didn't you create tests of better quality? The ones that exist now serve no purpose except to confuse native speakers of those languages.
By being a defender of indigenous languages of our continent you are contributing much to the diffusion of free knowledge in indigenous communities, but I don't think it's very useful to have tests of low quality that serve no purpose. --Node ue 02:39, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
People like User:Marrovi and User:Jose77 are doing a great job by creating tests for minor languages. It does not matter if the main pages are in a language other than the required, as they will be translated once native speakers start participating. They simplify things for the less computer-literate native speakers. I am confident to say this after my own experience in helping develop test Wikipedia for Brahui language. Although we requested at Meta for that, we did not know when and how we can start developing test wiki. It was User:Jose77, who created a mainpage (all of it in english) which contained links (with correct prefixes) for some basic topics, and started and left a message on my talkpage User talk:Imdadb asking me to contribute in the project. When i started creating pages, i clicked on link named Cat, and started writing about cat (animal) in Brahui language. Until that stage, i did not know that i could make changes to mainpage. I realized that after User:Jose77 redirected Cat to Pişşí, and changed the link on mainpage too. I learned from that, and on the next day i translated most of the mainpage and here is what Bráhuí test wiki is now. My point is that we shall not expect contributors of minor language test wikis to be efficient in computer as well as wiki language. We shall simplify things for them if we can. This is what Marrovi and Jose77 are trying to do. I am taking much space here but it is important for me to mention that i recently could get more contrbutors for Brahui test wiki only after i applied tactics of above mentioned users. Everyone i requested to contribute in the wiki was complaining of not knowing 'what to do?'. Now we found a solution, they sms or email me the topics they are interested to write about, i make links for the topics on their userpage, and they write after simply clicking on the red links. This is what i learned from Jose77. Imdadb 18:03, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
Imdadb, this is of course a different case. You already were interested in doing such a thing, and Jose77 helped you to do it. And what Marrovi has done in this case is not create pages in English, but create pages in the wrong language - he has written articles in the Yaqui language in the incubators for O'odham language, Tarahumara language, Mayo language, etc. So imagine Jose77 had created articles in the Brahui Incubator, but instead of being in English or Brahui, they were in Kazakh. Besides, none of these were requested by anybody, there is no reason for them to exist right now. It is clearly a different case. --Node ue 02:39, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Si se continuara de este paso, Wikipedia iniciará a desmoronarse y disolverse en el nada, así haciendo como muchas mentes brillantes como Marrovi, José77 y muchos otros nosotros que nos tienen a Wikipedia, de mi nativo dialecto siciliano al ruso, al nahuatl, maya, mordovino, bislama. Todo y digo todo tienen el derecho a expresar la misma lengua y los mismos conceptos. Es verdadero también que no todo somos una cabeza, pero también es verdadero que todo tenemos una conciencia y un corazón... por este nos empuja a colaborar con Wikipedia. Agradezco este medio que me ha permitido de expresarme y de mejorar y mejorarnos... sí, mejorarnos. Hoy que en el Mundo Global se puede ser a conocimiento de tanto pequeñas realidades sea a mi pequeña ciudad de Campora San Giovanni a la más minúscula entidad de Rusia o Américas. Todo nosotros tenemos el derecho a expresarnos, la Cultura es de todo. como dijo Pierre Laruosse, yo siembro al viento... y que el viento lleva lejos los botones.. y yo a él me inspiro. y Espero que se comprende que con este mi simple parecer quiero el sentido común y la buena fe de todo. ¡para acabar como a un gran filósofo ha dicho por algunos... y Paro de Dios por otros "Quien está sin pecado, arroja la primera piedra!", esperando tener spresso una modesta pero sincera opinión que me viene del corazón.. y yo nos pongo el corazón por Wikipedia, porque creo firmemente en este proyecto.. os mando mis saludos de la pequeña Campora San Giovanni. gracias a todos.--Lodewijk Vadacchino 18:40, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I would like to encourage you, Marrovi, and anyone else to complain on the community portal when you think something is not user-friendly. I am trying to improve the usability of Incubator. Just today, we have welcome pages for non-existing info pages. For example, Wp/nl or Wt/yaq should be more informative and friendly to new users. SPQRobin 20:34, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Let me ask you this: how long do you think these Wikis will be sitting around in this state? Marrovi claims he has grammar books (not good enough still, "grammar books" do not make you a native speaker; I had grammar books for Navajo Wikipedia and the contents I wrote still ended up atrocious and discouraging to native speakers) or other data; but we aren't just talking about one or two languages here, we're talking about a dozen endangered languages which deserve far more respect than a copy-and-pasted page from a different test in the wrong language.

Check it yourself: the Test Wikis for Mixe (Wp/mxp), Chol (Wp/ctu), Totonac (Wp/top), Guarijio (Wp/var) and O'odham (Wp/ood) are direct copies of the same page, which refers to the Yaqui language and has links to article titles in Yaqui! Why should we keep these? They were created by just copying and pasting, no information was even changed, how useful is that to anybody? And note that the Mayo Wikipedia (Wp/mfy) refers to itself as the Kiliwa Wikipedia on its mainpage! I am all in favor of having these pages when someone comes along who is willing to put in the time and effort necessary to have useful pages, but that's clearly not what has happened here. --Node ue 02:46, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

They arn't direct copies but substansial as the Water article changes by 1 or so words. Ebe123 (Talkabout it|contribs) 10:25, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Node ue, I understand the issue you raise and agree with you, but I think it is a better solution to ask Marrovi to fix and improve those pages rather than requesting them to be deleted. SPQRobin 19:45, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

En el momento que los hablantes nativos aprueban, rechazan y opinan, ya está funcionando la wikipedia; pero eso no sucede de igual modo en todas las wikipedias ya autorizadas, ni en quechua, ni en guaraní se da la participación activa de los usuarios nativos. En náhuatl no tenemos hablantes nativos, y no los ignoramos como ya se dijo aquí tampoco somos agresivos con nadie que no sea hablante nativo, los que se decían hablantes nativos resultaron que no lo eran completamente (también sabemos identificar como es un hablante nativo y quien no lo es), el principal problema que tenemos es la escritura latina, más no su contenido, por eso es necesario aclarar todo esto para que no se digan cosas que no son ciertas; ahora tenemos la opción en la Wiki mexicana de escribir en algún dialecto del náhuatl, pero ni eso a funcionado hasta este momento, esperamos que se acerquen en los meses venideros algunos jóvenes y niños con lengua nativa y se quieran integrar al proyecto.--Marrovi 04:46, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Lo que tienes que saber es que esta situación es un poco diferente porque las wikipedias en quechua, guaraní y náhuatl (y navajo y cheroqui y mascogo y aymara... etc) fueron aprobadas hace varios años; desde entonces, ha entrado en vigor una nueva política de lenguas (Language policy). Antes, no era necesario contar con la participación de hablantes nativos para poder crear una nueva Wikipedia, lo único que se tenía que hacer fue pedirle personalmente a User:Brion que abriera la Wikipedia. Las cosas han cambiado mucho en el desde entonces; ahora tenemos un comité de idiomas (Language committee) que se encarga del manejo de las solicitudes de nuevos idiomas y todo lo relacionado con los idiomas y el multilingüismo.
Lo que te estoy diciendo es que ahora las cosas no son tan faciles como antes, para crear una nueva Wikipedia primero tienes que crear una comunidad, una comunidad que cuenta con el apoyo y la ayuda de hablantes nativos. Siendo el yucateco la tercera lengua más hablada en el país, creo que con el tiempo llegarán los hablantes nativos a colaborar... pero en la actualidad, vemos que los colaboradores más prolíficos no son hablantes nativos.
Si quieres crear más Tests en lenguas mexicanas en el futuro, no estaré de desacuerdo, pero no creo que sea un esfuerzo muy útil sin la colaboración de hablantes nativos. --Node ue 08:46, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Could everyone who doesn't write in English please consider to give a short summary in English of the comments he makes? Thank you. --MF-W {a, b} 13:05, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

...and decision: X mark.svg Not done - per discussion above. It is advisable that the main pages that refer to the wrong language should be fixed. --MF-W {a, b} 00:02, 27 August 2011 (UTC)


aaf is the code for Aranadan, but this page states Do you know Arabi-Malayalam? Then we need your help! Doesn't seem to be the same language. --OWTB 14:22, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Deleted, see: Wp/aaf/Thodakka Page --OWTB 14:24, 1 October 2011 (UTC)


I thought this one already had been deleted... pes is the code for Iranian Persian, which is already covered in our "fa" projects. Generally, Persian is not written in Latin, which makes this wiki practically the same as the Latinized Russian project. Also note that other wiki's (Twents, Drenths etc) have also been deleted as they were already included at other wikis. --OWTB 10:22, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

If I don't get to hear something within ten days since the proposal, I assume there are no objections. --OWTB 11:16, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
For sure. But note that so far it's only half of the time :-) --MF-W {a, b} 16:21, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
I thought this was deleted already. Even if Persian in Latin script were wanted, a LanguageConverter should be made instead. SPQRobin 19:27, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
@MF-Warburg: Yes, but it took so long before I got a reaction, so I thought it would make a more "dramatic" effect :) --OWTB 07:18, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
@SPQRobin, I'm guessing a LanguageConverter is impossible or at the very least non-trivial, given that Farsi in its native script does not generally mark short vowels, making it extraordinarily difficult for anyone without a knowledge of the language to know the pronunciation of any given word or to transliterate words. The undertaking would require a converter with a built in dictionary, not just a trivial one-to-one script converter of the type used by sr.wp. --Node ue 01:32, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps one of the two more "advanced" admins could help me with a bot? :P --OWTB 05:08, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

You want to set up your own one? Or did you make a decision on this proposal, which is to delete the test ;) ? --> user:MF-Warburg/todel. --MF-W {a, b} 16:17, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Note: The test was deleted by OWTB. --MF-W {a, b} 23:33, 13 November 2011 (UTC)



Isn't als.wp the correct place? --MF-W {a, b} 16:22, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Check whether there is something to be transferred (probably not) and then delete the test. --OWTB 18:13, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Done. There is no article Choppige in als.wp, so I asked them about it here. Side note: I had to create the info page again as the auto-info-page links to, which is (still) wrong. --MF-W {a, b} 18:50, 15 January 2012 (UTC)


Uses a wrong code. Test content is Tamazight, while the code is for another language. Part of the Berber issues, probably. --MF-W {a, b} 16:46, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Can't stay in its current form. It looks like it's just Wp/ber using the Berber writing system.. --OWTB 18:16, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Editing was now blocked. Hopefully the users can tell us which language it is. --MF-W {a, b} 18:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Piacentino is not a language[edit]

I was looking through wikis and I found Wp/pcn. I am very doubtful about this wiki because:

Should it remain within the project?--Nickanc 21:42, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

(moved here from I:CP) This is obviously an invalid usage of Incubator, it should be deleted. --MF-W {a, b} 21:48, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Moreover, the pages in the same variant of emilian language are included in eml:. I support speedy deletion of all its pages.--Nickanc 15:24, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Deleted. SPQRobin 20:26, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Sindhi Bhil[edit]

(moved here from Talk:Wp/sbn --MF-W {a, b} 15:46, 30 June 2012 (UTC))

According to this website, sbn is the ISO code for Sindhi Bhil, a language spoken in parts of Pakistan. The Surabayan language currently doesn't seem to have an ISO code. See Help:FAQ#Help, I have no ISO code! for the possible solutions of this problem. Kind regards, Mathonius (talk) 03:50, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

By the way, the Sindhi language already has a Wikipedia project, see sd.wikipedia. Mathonius (talk) 03:52, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done - Deleted the info page & its talk, no other pages present. --MF-W {a, b} 15:46, 30 June 2012 (UTC)



This test is meant to be written in en:Zaza language, which is a macrolanguage comprising Dimli (diq), and Kirmanjki (kiu). Langcom has therefore rejected the request for it already back in 2008. Per policy, the test wikis whose proposals on Meta were rejected "can be kept for future proposals when the requirements are fulfilled (if this is possible), or else it should be proposed for deletion". I think that this is the case here, and contributions should be made to diq: and Wp/kiu. --MF-W {a, b} 22:12, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Is this a wiki containing two different languages or a wiki with one standard language? If it is the first: sort out pages and move to the correct codes. If the last: delete. --OWTB 06:10, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Zazaki is a language with three dialects: Northern, Central and Southern dialect. Therefore it is suitable to use also zza like kiu and diq for the three different dialects. Regards --Erdemaslancan 08:32, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
there is nothing new on Wp/zza. the user above Erdemaslancan (btw he is not so good at zazaki, he mostly use turkish insead of zazaki, here, a simple example and people think that he translated it into zazaki, but its turkish) just copy-paste artickles from diq: wiki. so, it doesnt make sense to create it and as user MF-W told, its a rejected proposal.--GOMADA talk 10:45, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

The decision is: Delete. Also a new request (here) has been rejected by Langcom. An XML file of the Wp/zza pages has been created (7.5 MB) and is avaiable upon request. --MF-W {a, b} 16:56, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes check.svg deleted by bot. --MF-W {a, b} 20:06, 9 April 2013 (UTC)


The code ber represents a language family and thus is not suited for a Wikipedia project. The Meta request has been rejected for the very same reason. We have test projects in many Berber languages, and presumably others could be opened if there is demand. -- Liliana-60 23:13, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for a late answer. There's a movement for a standardised Berber language, and there appear to be plans for a new language code or a change for "ber", and SIL is always slow with changes so Wp/ber can stay until it's clear what the SIL decision is or will be. SPQRobin 18:01, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Wy/ko/대한민국 of Wy/ko[edit]

Please delete this edition. Hahnjune0118 added contents of other encyclopedia. It doesn't permit commercial use and modifications. --Sotiale (talk) 03:17, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

So it's this diff? Where does it come from? --MF-W {a, b} 14:59, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

ːːDoopedia. Hereː "all contents of Doopedia are materials under copyright." and "It is strictly forbidden by the copyright law to copy, modify, or broadcast the contents of Doopedia without prior allowance by Doopedia."

It is allowed to use Doopedia if "students use the encyclopedic content to write reports, essays, or homework", or if "teachers and professors use the content in their lectures", as long as they state that the material is from Doopedia. WikiVoyage is neither student work or learning material. Speedy Delete before the Doopedia people find out.--Seonookim (talk) 06:20, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

I removed the offending material.--Seonookim (talk) 06:25, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Do you think there should be a revision deletion? [It would be nice to see the original text to compare whether this is necessary]. --MF-W {a, b} 13:13, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

It completely copied the article "대한민국" (Republic of Korea) in Doopedia, here. I dare not put the Doopedia content here, but the first sentence of the Wikivoyage article is just a rephrasing of Doopedia's last sentence, the second sentence is copied word-by-word of Doopedia's own second sentence, and the last sentence just added four more words ("after the 1953 peace treaty", but there's no grammatical article in Korean) to Doopedia's third sentence. I think it's time to delete.--Seonookim (talk) 06:09, 12 June 2013 (UTC) Doopedia has 400,000 articles, Korean Wikipedia has 700,000 articles (rather sporadic), and Naver Encyclopedia has 1.7 million. Didn't know ko.wikipedia was so big, but after all, I don't work on ko.wp...

I think for just 2 sentences, there is no need to hide the revision; it's enough to remove them from the articles. --MF-W {a, b} 17:06, 12 June 2013 (UTC)



see m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Mandarin Chinese.--GZWDer (talk) 07:23, 28 December 2013 (UTC)


Per gerrit:136234 as of now it can be used as a Magic word. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:06, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Done, thanks. SPQRobin (talk) 20:46, 8 August 2014 (UTC)