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Vandalism

User vandalised page. https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/85.249.160.3 https://incubator.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wp/isv/%D0%9D%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B_%D0%90%D1%84%D0%BE%D0%BD_(%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0)&diff=prev&oldid=6525824 Danvintius Bookix (talk) 14:08, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pages created by the IP deleted, a block is probably not necessary unless it starts again. --MF-W {a, b} 13:09, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And also vandalism in Wp/abc. @Iohanen:, @Jon Harald Søby:, @MF-Warburg:, @Sotiale:, @Ninjastrikers:. --Danvintius Bookix (talk) 12:48, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wp/abc pages deleted, users blocked. --MF-W {a, b} 13:08, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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林詩朗

Please delete the translation pages created by said user as machine translations. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 13:38, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nuked. --MF-W {a, b} 21:23, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This section was archived on a request by: Iohanen (Garcez) (talk) 21:41, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Module has incorrect page content model

This following page needs its content model to be changed to Scribunto module. It was being requested for speedy deletion but I think this is a quick fix and better than deleting it.

Module:Wp/nij/Check_for_unknown_parameters

Thanks in advance, Iohanen (Garcez) (talk) 21:51, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There exists a lua error and the content model cannot be changed. Also you have editcontentmodel as administrator. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 08:42, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see, thanks! I had tried to change it but it gave me an error so I assumed I couldn't do it, but now I understand why it didn't work! Thanks again, Iohanen (Garcez) (talk) 19:45, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This section was archived on a request by: Iohanen (Garcez) (talk) 19:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cham language (لغة چم)

I want to make a page with Cham language using Cham Wikipedia, but Wikipedia Cham isn't approved yet. 裕仁少女 (talk) 04:15, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@裕仁少女; There are already two Wikipedia projects for Cham language in incubator. For Eastern Cham Wikipedia, see Wp/cjm and for Western Cham Wikipedia, see Wp/cja. NinjaStrikers «» 08:52, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This section was archived on a request by: Garcez (talk) 08:19, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like spammer, that user only created spam pages under Gibanawa's code gib for their fandom. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:32, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Block him. He created "Wikipedia in Gibberish language" (wp/gib) with nonsense pages. He even wrote that on his userpage: "I am a professional troll". Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 10:34, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
blocked by Jon Harald Søby so
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Article creation

Facing error message when creating an article on Wp/gaa. It says "This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed" but the article is not harmful in anyway. Agoetee 123 (talk) 15:17, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Agoetee 123: It seems that a global abuse filter was limitating you. I have created the page for you (Wp/gaa/Jiji). I couldn't find the reason why it was limitating you since the filter is private on Meta.
Best regards, Garcez (talk) 08:00, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete my Userpage

I couldn't find the way to ask for it, as Incubator:CSD doesn't exists, neither does Template:SD. But may you please delete my userpage or atleast instruct how to correctly ask for it? I have now a userpage in Meta. Thanks. Eduardo Gottert (talk) 04:57, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Sotiale (talk) 11:27, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Block the user

I propose to block User:Choose13 because of his disrupting activity. Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 08:59, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --MF-W {a, b} 12:43, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Block the user 2

Are such name and activity appropriate for Incubator user? Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 10:07, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unacceptable. No global account is exist, so the account is seems to lockhided. Syunsyunminmin (talk) 10:37, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Thank you. Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 10:50, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unable to create new pages in the 'raj' Wikipedia incubator

Hello,

I am able to successfully contribute to and add to existing articles in the 'raj' incubator Wikipedia. But, when I try to create an new article about a new topic, it gives me the following notices:

When I create the page: >> You are creating a new (prefixed) page called "Wp/raj/हिन्द-आर्य भासावां".

When I click publish after adding the relevant content: >> You are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code. This code either is not valid or does not belong to a language accepted for new Wikimedia projects. If you came here from any other page, please return back and fix the link and then create the correctly named page. If by any chance this is blocking you from creating any page which you think has a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code or belongs to an accepted language, please let administrators know.

I would love to contribute to help this incubator test project grow, so any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you! Milind Agarwal 01 (talk) 17:34, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I have created the test page Wp/raj/हिन्द-आर्य भासावां without any issues. I noticed that you've already created some pages under Wp/raj. If you continue to encounter the same problem, please let us know. -- (talk) 19:45, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, thank you for your message. I am still getting the same response. The steps I am taking are as follows:
1. I start with visiting https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/raj
2. Then, I simply add the name of the new page I want to create in the URL. For example, "https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/raj/गुजरात"
3. This takes me to a page that says "This page does not exist or it has been deleted. You can..." and I chose the option "create this page".
4. I am then taken to an editor that says on the top "You are creating a new (prefixed) page called "Wp/raj/गुजरात"."
5. Then, I type something in the text box. Let's say "test", then click "Publish Page"
6. I keep getting the same error: "You are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code. This code either is not valid or does not belong to a language accepted for new Wikimedia projects. If you came here from any other page, please return back and fix the link and then create the correctly named page. If by any chance this is blocking you from creating any page which you think has a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code or belongs to an accepted language, please let administrators know." Milind Agarwal 01 (talk) 02:34, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ You're one of our adminships so you can create that page without problems, but for non-adminships this will need langcom members' review on whether Rajasthani is eligible for testing. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:06, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, what @Liuxinyu970226 says is correct. Macrolanguages are one of those gray areas where the language committee needs to decide; I see that there is already a discussion started on the page Liuxinyu links, so it is best to continue that discussion there. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 20:09, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The ISO 639-3 code Sia isnt getting accepted

Im in the progress of makeing a akkala sámi wikipedia. But i cant make any pages. When I try i get a error saying that the code isnt in ISO 1 or 3. The akkala sámi wikipedia dosnt exsit and im working on one. But i cant even make the main page. Fix this please Swedishiuser (talk) 11:50, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And you speak the language? --MF-W {a, b} 12:14, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I dont. im doing the pages from a dictonary. Since I dont have anyone or a friend i know that can akkala sámi Swedishiuser (talk) 12:34, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well no, i dont speak it. Im just wondering if you can solve whats doing it? Swedishiuser (talk) 14:13, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It will not be changed and I ask you to stop editing or creating pages in languages you don't speak, otherwise you will be blocked. --MF-W {a, b} 12:38, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have stopped doing that project for long ago. I have changed the language Swedishiuser (talk) 17:35, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You need to stop doing this for all languages. Blocked. -- MF-W {a, b} 08:48, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This section was archived on a request by: Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:48, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please import Template:Test wiki/styles.css to Incubator Plus 2.0

Sorry, but I didn't have anywhere else to put this. Please, import the CSS file for Template:Test wiki to Incubator Plus 2.0. Thanks. wikipedia-kxeon  mailbox  contributions 20:23, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ping User:Ooswesthoesbes. --MF-W {a, b} 12:37, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Ooswesthoesbes: Kxeon (talk) 14:55, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Because the page is unprefixed, I can't actually import or edit it... I need to look into that. --OWTB (talk) 09:25, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can't seem to find a way to circumvent this issue. As 2.0 uses the same mechanics as here, does anyone know how to create an unprefixed page? @User:MF-Warburg --OWTB (talk) 09:34, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You might have to set the test-wiki in your preferences to (Maintenance). --MF-W {a, b} 13:41, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That was a remarkably easy fix... Thank you! :) It is Done now. --OWTB (talk) 14:08, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ISO 639-3 code

Several languages have gotten their ISO 639-3 code but cannot create their wiki projects here: Hainanese (hnm), Leizhou Chinese (luh), Shaojiang Chinese (sjc), Southern Ping Chinese (csp), Northern Ping Chinese (cnp). el caballero de los Leones (talk) 03:33, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This can be changed when there are requests from the speakers of these languages. --MF-W {a, b} 12:38, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@MF-Warburg Actually, Hainanese already has its corresponding RFL: here (On Hold at the moment), shouldn't this one be unfreezed first? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:17, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Following the discussion on the Community Portal, I believe the consensus is established to move Wy/hbs to Wy/sh. If that is the case here, the discussion can now be closed/concluded, with the following steps:

  • All Wy/hbs subpages (content) should be moved to Wy/sh without leaving a redirect.
  • The code page Wy/hbs shall redirect to Wy/sh.

Many thanks for considering my request, Aca (talk) 22:24, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's been a month since I posted this, so I'm leaving this message to prevent archiving. The consensus is now well-established on the Community Portal. @Ooswesthoesbes: Since you are an admin, could you please take a look? :) – Aca (talk) 08:18, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Considering the size of the test, this is something that has to be done by bot. Maybe @User:MF-Warburg has time to look into this? --OWTB (talk) 08:20, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Moved. User:Aca: Undoubtedly some pages (templates, categories) will need further fixes. --MF-W {a, b} 13:47, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Danke! Closing this topic accordingly, and community will be notified about further steps. – Aca (talk) 22:28, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This section was archived on a request by: – Aca (talk) 22:29, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Problème de création de page utilisateur

Bonjour,

Je suis un contributeur débutant (nom d'utilisateur : Adel_houimdi) et j'essayais de créer ma page utilisateur, mais j'ai été bloqué automatiquement par un filtre anti-abus.

Je vous confirme que ma modification était constructive et que je voulais seulement créer ma propre page avec une présentation de mon projet sur les plantes médicinales en Tunisie.

Pouvez-vous m'autoriser à créer ma page ? Merci beaucoup pour votre aide !

User:Adel_houimdi

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Test adminship (Wy/ta)

I already made a request on Incubator:Administrators, but it hasn't gotten any action well after the end of the voting period. Assume the same reasons as in Incubator:Administrators#Faster than Thunder (Wy/ta), and if you have any concerns, please reply them. Thanks. By the way, I am basically one of the two only real contributors to the wiki. Faster than Thunder (talk) 15:08, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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How do I translate Template:Test wiki?

I am genuinely so lost on this. I don't know what to actually use to translate this. No subpages, no translatewiki entry, nothing. What do I do? Kxeon (talk) 19:34, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If it's Prussian you want to translate into, is this what you are looking for? Cheers, rand IJzeren Jan (besěda) 21:27, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Kxeon: Nowadays, it is translated in Translatewiki.net: translatewiki:Special:Translate/ext-wikimediaincubator-onwiki. I'll update the documentation at Incubator:Translation project. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 07:11, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that. Btw, maybe it would be a good idea to change the links at the bottom to go to the translatewiki page you just led me to? I kept on clicking that thinking that it would take me to the page to translate it or something. But no.
Maybe there's another reason as to why you don't? Maybe, maybe not. Kxeon (talk) 22:18, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Proplem

Hi, I tried to create a new page in Wy/ar/ but got an error saying that the ISO 639 code is wrong or invalid even though the prefix Wy/ar/ is present in the project, See جودت (talk) 17:05, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Should be fixed. Please try again. --MF-W {a, b} 12:01, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@MF-Warburg Problem solved, thank you جودت (talk) 17:57, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redlinked "MediaWiki:Lang" pages

I accidentally stumbled upon Module:Wp/qdp/MediaWikiLang; and by extension Wp/qdp when searching for "ko-kp" on the Incubator, on Google.

I also found that there are quite a few redlinked pages that aren't supposed to be redlinked. Maybe you should create them?

Kxeon (talk) 02:07, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Jon Harald Søby: is this needed? --MF-W {a, b} 08:48, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@MF-Warburg: Yeah. I'll create those now. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 19:32, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... huh. Either I missed one or Dolgan (MediaWiki:Lang/dlg) was added since I sent this notice. I don't know which one it is but it probably needs to be made regardless. Sorry if I did miss it. Kxeon (talk) 21:51, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Done ;) Garcez (talk) 17:00, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This section was archived on a request by: Garcez (talk) 23:21, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Sauit (talk) 08:28, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Syunsyunminmin (talk) 10:04, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This section was archived on a request by: Garcez (talk) 23:21, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That guy seems to be a vandal. Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 18:15, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Syunsyunminmin (talk) 18:23, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This section was archived on a request by: Syunsyunminmin (talk) 18:23, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Common reasons for deletion updated

I just would like to notice fellow administrators and the Bureaucrats that I have updated the MediaWiki:Deletereason-dropdown to include 'Misspelled title'. Best regards Garcez (talk) 21:58, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Request added by Iohanen. NinjaStrikers «» 14:40, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Ninjastrikers Just to clarify, I am Iohanen ;). Garcez is my surname, so I use it in the signature Garcez (talk) 01:26, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This section was archived on a request by: NinjaStrikers «» 14:40, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Restart Dalmatian test project

I am trying to restart dalmatian wikipedia test project but it say dont have valid code but code for dalmatian language is dlm i am new here so i dont know much how this works i just want start writing articles if possible Vigurichteodoro (talk) 21:02, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's not possible because Dalmatian is an extinct language. New Wikipedia projects in extinct languages are not allowed. --MF-W {a, b} 16:56, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
its "extinction" is very disputed thing, more of mythology than proven fact, is there way to prove language is not extinct? Vigurichteodoro (talk) 20:34, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Vigurichteodoro: Yes, you must prove it mainly to SIL's ISO 639-3 and/or Ethnologue. Other sources may be used but mostly SIL's ISO 639-3 and eventually Ethnologue (having SIL's ISO 639-3 approval is certainly most important). Garcez (talk) 17:41, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Sauit (talk) 00:24, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Syunsyunminmin (talk) 01:17, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This section was archived on a request by: Syunsyunminmin (talk) 01:17, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Use of Nepal-lipi font for writing Nepal Bhasa pages

I shall appreciate if somebody could let me know as to how far has the Nepal-lipi project on Wikipedia has progressed. I learnt that more contents needed to be generated Nepal-lipi project, which is yet an incubator to a full-fledged Wikipedia. As a supporter of the team that encoded Nepal Lipi in the Unicode, and creators of Noto sans Newa font of Nepal-lipi, I am pleased to support to generates contents for this project. Please let me know. VajraSri (talk) 05:37, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Half (give or take a few) of the Prūsiska Wikipēdija copied to Wp/prg - What should be done?

I had assumed Nertiks would be fine with copying it over; as there was no response. I started making pages here on October 7, and started importing on the 31st. However, somewhere in/after December, I found what he said on the request for the Prussian Wikipedia:

"The Prussian Wikipedia started to work on an independent server: http://wikipedia.prusaspira.ez.lv (now http://wikipedia.prusaspira.org) after refusing it in the official Wikipedia. We have 6 authors who write articles more or less regularly. From the technical point of view it would be better to make the decision about Wikipedia for our language using the material on this server, not to start an Incubator, which can disappear and work of people can be wasted then." --User:Nertiks; 27 Febuary 2012

Nowadays, the independent Wikipedia has only two users (or three, if you count WūranArtīkelinRedigītajs, who may be Nertiks): Nertiks and me. It appears that the data was transferred (between servers? due to a server error?) on 28 September 2021. I joined on the 26th of 2024.

Plus, there have been many, many other instances of copying from the Prūsiska Wikipēdija, so I thought it would be fine. I copied half of the Prūsiska Wikipēdija over (give or take a few articles). It's licensed with CC BY-SA-4.0, however I suspect that the way I did it breaks the licensing, by not specifically adding the CC BY-SA-4.0 link to the commit message every time.

  • Should the articles that I imported be mass-deleted?
  • Should we export every single article that exists in Wp/prg to the Prūsiska Wikipēdija, convert it to their orthography, and have the Prussian Wikipedia go the way of Toki Pona?
  • Should I ask Nertiks again and tell him what I did?
  • Should I should be blocked from editing the Incubator because there's a rule I violated by doing this?
    • If so, should it be temporary or indefinite?
  • Or should nothing happen?

This may be such a massive blunder that I felt like I had to go here instead of the Community Portal. Sorry. Kxeon (talk) 15:39, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is the whole test-wiki wp/prg a duplicate of the independent wiki, copied by you? --MF-W {a, b} 11:56, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely not. Quite a few of the pages are not from the Prūsiska Wikipēdija. There are currently 309 pages on the Incubator. I don't really know how many of those are copied from the Prūsiska Wikipēdija, as I did way too much and others have also not labelled their imports but;
  • Tīgelka imported 4 pages, correctly for the most part. They placed the license and URL in their edit summary. There's just no link.
  • NawsPiteris imported 65 pages from the Prūsiska Wikipēdija. Piteris is a part of Prusaspirā, the proposer of the second request for Wikipedia Prussian, and was a user of the Prūsiska Wikipēdija before the migration, which destroyed all data. Due to the destruction of the data, it's hard/impossible to tell whether or not NawsPiteris copied from the Prūsiska Wikipēdija, or if the Prūsiska Wikipēdija copied from them.
  • I imported too many to give an exact number... I estimate 175~200...
  • And there are definitely a few more people that I'm forgetting, of whom imported from the Prūsiska Wikipēdija. From what I remember, 2.
As far as I can tell though, nobody else has imported articles from the Prūsiska Wikipēdija. Recently, anyway.
If I understand you correctly, what you did was manually copying content from the external wiki without attributing the source, right? Well, we've had a similar thing going on with Interslavic (Wp/isv): at first, I asked several times if it would be possible to go "the way of Toki Pona" but never received an answer, and after three months, some people started copying articles from our external wiki, and gradually, the work moved from that wiki to the Incubator. Obviously, two wikis being worked on simultaneously is most undesirable, so that's why I put a banner in the external wiki asking people to edit the Incubator instead.
I wouldn't worry too much about the copyright infringement if I were you, because that situation can simply be undone by importing all articles along with their histories at some later point. The only thing is that importing them to the Incubator would require quite some extra work because of the prefixes. That's why it might be better to wait with that until the Prussian wiki has been created.
And anyway, the Incubator at least gives you the advantage that activity can easily be monitored. An external wiki is harder to check for sockpuppetry and probably won't make it possible to verify if all the requirements are met. rand IJzeren Jan (besěda) 21:02, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Huh. It seems that the situations of the Prussian and Interslavic Wikipedias really were somewhat similar, apart from a few things:
  1. The Prussian Wikipedia was rejected two times:
    1. Once in 2008; which was the catalyst for the migration to an entirely independent website to continue operations
    2. And again in 2016; despite the second request for Prussian that was proposed by Piteris in 2012, still being open (today marked as eligible).
  2. Nērtiks himself did not make a banner at the top of the Prūsiska Wikipēdija like you did
  3. Nērtiks may be unaware that this is even happening/has happened.[note 1]
So what was done for Interslavic here may also work for Prussian.[note 2]
Besides the fact that near the start of May of this year, the Prūsiska Wikipēdija garnered 10 articles of French gamble-spam with the wrong encoding,[note 3] of which have not been deleted yet,[1] the Prūsiska Wikipēdija seems to be OK; although it's pretty inactive these days.
Also, when I was importing articles, I added a comment at the top for some of the ones I imported with the URL of the page I imported from, however some of them have no attributions at all. None of them have the licensing information or link. I'll just take your word however, and not worry about the copyright violations. Thanks, Kxeon (talk) 23:29, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A quick export (from the independent Prussian Wikipedia) and an import here would solve the issue quickly. The Incubator is already CC BY-SA 4.0 (as you can see on the footnotes of every page), so importing would "overwrite" the copy-over edits you made and give the appropriate user their credit (in the page history). Would that be possible @MF-Warburg? Of course, we would need @Kxeon to give us a list of every article, including templates, categories, modules (if applicable) that they copied over. Also include Tigelika's imports since they did not give appropriate credit («If supplied, you must provide the name of the creator and attribution parties, a copyright notice, a license notice, a disclaimer notice, and a link to the material.»). I don't think we can do much about NawsPiteris since his "imports" (now technically creations) predate articles by the independent Wikipedia (since we can't know where they came from). Else we could also delete every article created by them, but I think the optimal solution is to import ;) Garcez (talk) 17:24, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the suggestion to make the lists of pages that I imported.
When I searched for "wikipedia.prusaspira.org Tū redigijja" in my history on Pale Moon, I found the search results you see down here. I removed the red links, and the ones that I checked and found that I didn't make the page on the Incubator, from the list (2 red links, 36 by NawsPiteris, and 1 by Tīgelka; 39 in total), so now I made a list of pages, where each one was probably imported by me.
  1. Abistiks
  2. Adli
  3. Adli - Angzdrin Kunnegini
  4. Aliskans
  5. Alnāsteini
  6. Amellingi
  7. Andenes
  8. Andrōmeda
  9. Anna Prus
  10. Antrā dināmikis ensadīnsna
  11. Apsi
  12. Arkellis
  13. Auktumma tūlisku
  14. Baltija
  15. Baltiska krewetti
  16. Geltaīna kīla
  17. Glōsana
  18. Gotska Sandön
  19. Guddamistan
  20. Hilbertas plattibi
  21. Ikurrina
  22. Kaddegs
  23. Kalpeni for
  24. Kašūbai (tautā)
  25. Kreinas-Milmanas gērdausenis
  26. Krāntaws
  27. Kurka
  28. Kālwarnis
  29. Kāmstis
  30. Kērkas
  31. Kīrsnan saiwāgarin
  32. Kīrsnas aliskans
  33. Kīrsnawinzus geggals
  34. Kīrsnawinzus kērka
  35. Kōns
  36. Kūlgrinda
  37. Laītawa
  38. Laūkiska šīrki
  39. Liguzuwinnin angzdris
  40. Luks (mīstan)
  41. Lukuttis
  42. Lēcbargs
  43. Līdi
  44. Līkuta nāts
  45. Līkutailappiska līpa
  46. Līkutasis geggals
  47. Līkuts Princis
  48. Līwa
  49. Līwa (Paguddi)
  50. Mackālija
  51. Makrēli
  52. Mandelbrotas tūlisku
  53. Manx bilā
  54. Medenīks tattarwas
  55. Mertīns
  56. Mikkels Klussis
  57. Mīniks (teulōgija)
  58. Mōlas massi
  59. Mōls
  60. Nadrāuwa
  61. Nātanga
  62. Paguddi
  63. Pameddi
  64. Paserrija
  65. Patrīmpus
  66. Pelīmaigis
  67. Pergrūbris
  68. Pergrūbris (dēiws)
  69. Pergrūbris (zentlin)
  70. Pilkeris
  71. Pirmā dināmikis ensadīnsna
  72. Pirmā prūsiska senskisnā
  73. Prastasis azzis
  74. Prastasis kaddegs
  75. Prēigara
  76. Prūsas Grīma
  77. Pāitaran
  78. Pēnpala
  79. Pīkli
  80. Pōli
  81. Pōwurmisku
  82. Relaciōni
  83. Rāistanpils
  84. Rānkaskugis
  85. Rīzlis
  86. Rūgtines rūgtan
  87. Sasnā
  88. Sasnīnai
  89. Saūlis wītra
  90. Skallawa
  91. Slidenīks
  92. Steineras gērdausenis
  93. Stāi prastai arkelli
  94. Sōnants
  95. Tāwe Nūsan
  96. Tīrpsnas temperatūri
  97. Tīrts Katekismus
  98. Ulinsnā prei Rēides azzaran
  99. Undasklakēi
  100. Walskā
  101. Wilhelms Wīns
  102. Wilkazukkai
  103. Wilnis
  104. Wladimīrs Toporōws
  105. Wīns
  106. Wūksteniks
  107. Wūksteniks (azzaran)
  108. Wūrmiwinzus geggals
  109. Wūrmiwinzus kērka
  110. Zarātiskai
  111. Zinguris
  112. Zirgūni
  113. Zirgūni (appi)
  114. Āukels
  115. Škurs
  116. Šīrkis
  117. Template:Kēmiskan elamēntan
  118. Template:Kēmiskas sendāsenis
  119. Template:Tautā
I also went to my contibutions and found a few pages that weren't in my history, that I still seem to have imported:
  1. Bansē (azzaran en Galindai)
  2. Bansē (kāims en Galindai)
  3. Bazilisks
  4. Bijakciōni
  5. Burrowas-Wheeleras transfōrmaciōni
  6. Buttiska šīrki
  7. Buttiskas spurglas
  8. Bīskupaspils
  9. Bīslaida (appi)
  10. CAS nummeri
  11. Citrōnis rūgtan
  12. Coulombas tikrōmisku
  13. Deginnis
  14. Deklaraciōni stēisan gīmtan amzin tikrōmin
  15. Deklaraciōni stēisan gīmtan amzin tikrōmin - ēnturs
  16. Dināmikis ensadīnsnas
  17. Drānzi
  18. Drūsa (azzaran)
  19. Elāktriskan talpan
  20. Eridāns (gealōgija)
  21. Erks Mānts
  22. Farads
  23. Farēiriska bilā
  24. Freeciv
  25. Galdapi (appi)
  26. Galinda
  27. Gallu
  28. Gausas tikrōmisku
  29. Gaīls aliskans
  30. Gaīls gāndars
  31. Gegalāi
  32. Geltaīna kīla
  33. Glišas rūgtan
  34. Gāndars
  35. Gārbas bremzi
  36. Higgsas bozōns
  37. Impulss
  38. Inērcijas mōmentan
  39. Inērcijas mōmentas tensōrs
  40. Izwanginewīngi kīrsnas kērmens
  41. Leītawa
  42. Luks (mēstan)
  43. Massis sirdan
  44. Nabetta
  45. Nutōns
  46. Paskāls
  47. Pelannas etālisku
  48. Pellana (ōptiki)
  49. Prūsas Grēma
  50. Senrazgīsnas wīdiks
  51. Separāminas stānis
  52. Spurglāi
  53. Strōwangs
  54. Tirtī dināmikis ensadīnsna
  55. Welsnas impulss
  56. Welsnas mōmentan
  57. Widāminan swāikstan
  58. Šablōni:Kēmiskas sendāsenis
  59. Šablōni:Mistan (Redirect to Šablōni:Mēstan); This template is based off of Šablōni:Tautā
  60. Kategōrija:Barta
  61. Kategōrija:Garēi (Redirect to Kategōrija:Garjāi)
  62. Kategōrija:Karjangus / Karengus
  63. Kategōrija:Kēmija
  64. Kategōrija:Kīrnas
  65. Kategōrija:Mackālija
  66. Kategōrija:Mestāi / Mistāi
  67. Kategōrija:Semba
  68. Kategōrija:Tāutas
  69. Andajaus (Redirect to Autrīmpus)
  70. Andajus (Redirect to Autrīmpus)
  71. Guddija (Redirect to Mackālija)
  72. Jātawa (Redirect to Sūdawa)
  73. Laītawa (Redirect to Leītawa)
  74. Wp/prg/Luks (mīstan) (Redirect to Luks (mēstan))
  75. Prūsas Grīma (Redirect to Prūsas Grēma)
  76. Prūsiskan (Redirect to Prūsiska bilā)
  77. Russija (Redirect to Mackālija)
The entire list of pages that are in my contributions, that were imported by me:
  1. Abistiks
  2. Adli
  3. Adli - Angzdrin Kunnegini
  4. Aliskans
  5. Alnāsteini
  6. Amellingi
  7. Andenes
  8. Andrōmeda
  9. Anna Prus
  10. Antrā dināmikis ensadīnsna
  11. Apsi
  12. Arkellis
  13. Auktumma tūlisku
  14. Baltija
  15. Baltiska krewetti
  16. Bansē (azzaran en Galindai)
  17. Bansē (kāims en Galindai)
  18. Bazilisks
  19. Bijakciōni
  20. Burrowas-Wheeleras transfōrmaciōni
  21. Buttiska šīrki
  22. Buttiskas spurglas
  23. Bīskupaspils
  24. Bīslaida (appi)
  25. CAS nummeri
  26. Citrōnis rūgtan
  27. Coulombas tikrōmisku
  28. Deginnis
  29. Deklaraciōni stēisan gīmtan amzin tikrōmin
  30. Deklaraciōni stēisan gīmtan amzin tikrōmin - ēnturs
  31. Dināmikis ensadīnsnas
  32. Drānzi
  33. Drūsa (azzaran)
  34. Elāktriskan talpan
  35. Eridāns (gealōgija)
  36. Erks Mānts
  37. Farads
  38. Farēiriska bilā
  39. Freeciv
  40. Galdapi (appi)
  41. Galinda
  42. Gallu
  43. Gausas tikrōmisku
  44. Gaīls aliskans
  45. Gaīls gāndars
  46. Gegalāi
  47. Geltaīna kīla
  48. Glišas rūgtan
  49. Glōsana
  50. Gotska Sandön
  51. Guddamistan
  52. Gāndars
  53. Gārbas bremzi
  54. Higgsas bozōns
  55. Hilbertas plattibi
  56. Ikurrina
  57. Impulss
  58. Inērcijas mōmentan
  59. Inērcijas mōmentas tensōrs
  60. Izwanginewīngi kīrsnas kērmens
  61. Kaddegs
  62. Kalpeni for
  63. Kašūbai (tautā)
  64. Kreinas-Milmanas gērdausenis
  65. Krāntaws
  66. Kurka
  67. Kālwarnis
  68. Kāmstis
  69. Kērkas
  70. Kīrsnan saiwāgarin
  71. Kīrsnas aliskans
  72. Kīrsnawinzus geggals
  73. Kīrsnawinzus kērka
  74. Kōns
  75. Kūlgrinda
  76. Laūkiska šīrki
  77. Leītawa
  78. Liguzuwinnin angzdris
  79. Luks (mēstan)
  80. Lukuttis
  81. Lēcbargs
  82. Līdi
  83. Līkuta nāts
  84. Līkutailappiska līpa
  85. Līkutasis geggals
  86. Līwa
  87. Līwa (Paguddi)
  88. Mackālija
  89. Makrēli
  90. Manx bilā
  91. Massis sirdan
  92. Medenīks tattarwas
  93. Mertīns
  94. Mikkels Klussis
  95. Mīniks (teulōgija)
  96. Mōlas massi
  97. Mōls
  98. Nabetta
  99. Nadrāuwa
  100. Nutōns
  101. Nātanga
  102. Paguddi
  103. Pameddi
  104. Paserrija
  105. Paskāls
  106. Patrīmpus
  107. Pelannas etālisku
  108. Pellana (ōptiki)
  109. Pelīmaigis
  110. Pergrūbris
  111. Pergrūbris (dēiws)
  112. Pergrūbris (zentlin)
  113. Pilkeris
  114. Pirmā dināmikis ensadīnsna
  115. Pirmā prūsiska senskisnā
  116. Prastasis azzis
  117. Prastasis kaddegs
  118. Prēigara
  119. Prūsas Grēma
  120. Pāitaran
  121. Pēnpala
  122. Pīkli
  123. Pōwurmisku
  124. Relaciōni
  125. Rāistanpils
  126. Rānkaskugis
  127. Rīzlis
  128. Rūgtines rūgtan
  129. Sasnā
  130. Sasnīnai
  131. Saūlis wītra
  132. Senrazgīsnas wīdiks
  133. Separāminas stānis
  134. Skallawa
  135. Slidenīks
  136. Spurglāi
  137. Steineras gērdausenis
  138. Strōwangs
  139. Stāi prastai arkelli
  140. Sōnants
  141. Tirtī dināmikis ensadīnsna
  142. Tāwe Nūsan
  143. Tīrpsnas temperatūri
  144. Tīrts Katekismus
  145. Ulinsnā prei Rēides azzaran
  146. Undasklakēi
  147. Walskā
  148. Welsnas impulss
  149. Welsnas mōmentan
  150. Widāminan swāikstan
  151. Wilhelms Wīns
  152. Wilkazukkai
  153. Wilnis
  154. Wladimīrs Toporōws
  155. Wīns
  156. Wūksteniks
  157. Wūksteniks (azzaran)
  158. Wūrmiwinzus geggals
  159. Wūrmiwinzus kērka
  160. Zarātiskai
  161. Zinguris
  162. Zirgūni
  163. Zirgūni (appi)
  164. Āukels
  165. Škurs
  166. Šīrkis
  167. Šablōni:Kēmiskas sendāsenis
  168. Šablōni:Mistan (Redirect to Šablōni:Mēstan); This template is based off of Šablōni:Tautā
  169. Kategōrija:Barta
  170. Kategōrija:Garēi
  171. Kategōrija:Karjangus / Karengus
  172. Kategōrija:Kēmija
  173. Kategōrija:Kīrnas
  174. Kategōrija:Mackālija
  175. Kategōrija:Mestāi / Mistāi
  176. Kategōrija:Semba
  177. Kategōrija:Tāutas
  178. Andajaus (Redirect to Autrīmpus)
  179. Andajus (Redirect to Autrīmpus)
  180. Guddija (Redirect to Mackālija)
  181. Jātawa (Redirect to Sūdawa)
  182. Laītawa (Redirect to Leītawa)
  183. Wp/prg/Luks (mīstan) (Redirect to Luks (mēstan))
  184. Prūsas Grīma (Redirect to Prūsas Grēma)
  185. Prūsiskan (Redirect to Prūsiska bilā)
  186. Russija (Redirect to Mackālija)
And so, this is the full list of pages that were ever imported to the Incubator by me (excluding redirects):
  1. Abistiks
  2. Adli
  3. Adli - Angzdrin Kunnegini
  4. Aliskans
  5. Alnāsteini
  6. Amellingi
  7. Andenes
  8. Andrōmeda
  9. Anna Prus
  10. Antrā dināmikis ensadīnsna
  11. Apsi
  12. Arkellis
  13. Auktumma tūlisku
  14. Baltija
  15. Baltiska krewetti
  16. Bansē (azzaran en Galindai)
  17. Bansē (kāims en Galindai)
  18. Bazilisks
  19. Bijakciōni
  20. Burrowas-Wheeleras transfōrmaciōni
  21. Buttiska šīrki
  22. Buttiskas spurglas
  23. Bīskupaspils
  24. Bīslaida (appi)
  25. CAS nummeri
  26. Citrōnis rūgtan
  27. Coulombas tikrōmisku
  28. Deginnis
  29. Deklaraciōni stēisan gīmtan amzin tikrōmin
  30. Deklaraciōni stēisan gīmtan amzin tikrōmin - ēnturs
  31. Dināmikis ensadīnsnas
  32. Drānzi
  33. Drūsa (azzaran)
  34. Elāktriskan talpan
  35. Eridāns (gealōgija)
  36. Erks Mānts
  37. Farads
  38. Farēiriska bilā
  39. Freeciv
  40. Galdapi (appi)
  41. Galinda
  42. Gallu
  43. Gausas tikrōmisku
  44. Gaīls aliskans
  45. Gaīls gāndars
  46. Gegalāi
  47. Geltaīna kīla
  48. Glišas rūgtan
  49. Glōsana
  50. Gotska Sandön
  51. Guddamistan
  52. Gāndars
  53. Gārbas bremzi
  54. Higgsas bozōns
  55. Hilbertas plattibi
  56. Ikurrina
  57. Impulss
  58. Inērcijas mōmentan
  59. Inērcijas mōmentas tensōrs
  60. Izwanginewīngi kīrsnas kērmens
  61. Kaddegs
  62. Kalpeni for
  63. Kašūbai (tautā)
  64. Kreinas-Milmanas gērdausenis
  65. Krāntaws
  66. Kurka
  67. Kālwarnis
  68. Kāmstis
  69. Kērkas
  70. Kīrsnan saiwāgarin
  71. Kīrsnas aliskans
  72. Kīrsnawinzus geggals
  73. Kīrsnawinzus kērka
  74. Kōns
  75. Kūlgrinda
  76. Laītawa
  77. Laūkiska šīrki
  78. Leītawa
  79. Liguzuwinnin angzdris
  80. Luks (mēstan)
  81. Lukuttis
  82. Lēcbargs
  83. Līdi
  84. Līkuta nāts
  85. Līkutailappiska līpa
  86. Līkutasis geggals
  87. Līkuts Princis
  88. Līwa
  89. Līwa (Paguddi)
  90. Mackālija
  91. Makrēli
  92. Mandelbrotas tūlisku
  93. Manx bilā
  94. Massis sirdan
  95. Medenīks tattarwas
  96. Mertīns
  97. Mikkels Klussis
  98. Mīniks (teulōgija)
  99. Mōlas massi
  100. Mōls
  101. Nadrāuwa
  102. Nabetta
  103. Nātanga
  104. Nutōns
  105. Paguddi
  106. Pameddi
  107. Paserrija
  108. Paskāls
  109. Patrīmpus
  110. Pelannas etālisku
  111. Pellana (ōptiki)
  112. Pelīmaigis
  113. Pergrūbris
  114. Pergrūbris (dēiws)
  115. Pergrūbris (zentlin)
  116. Pilkeris
  117. Pirmā dināmikis ensadīnsna
  118. Pirmā prūsiska senskisnā
  119. Prastasis azzis
  120. Prastasis kaddegs
  121. Prēigara
  122. Prūsas Grēma
  123. Pāitaran
  124. Pēnpala
  125. Pīkli
  126. Pōwurmisku
  127. Relaciōni
  128. Rāistanpils
  129. Rānkaskugis
  130. Rīzlis
  131. Rūgtines rūgtan
  132. Sasnā
  133. Sasnīnai
  134. Saūlis wītra
  135. Senrazgīsnas wīdiks
  136. Separāminas stānis
  137. Skallawa
  138. Slidenīks
  139. Spurglāi
  140. Steineras gērdausenis
  141. Strōwangs
  142. Stāi prastai arkelli
  143. Sōnants
  144. Tirtī dināmikis ensadīnsna
  145. Tāwe Nūsan
  146. Tīrpsnas temperatūri
  147. Tīrts Katekismus
  148. Ulinsnā prei Rēides azzaran
  149. Undasklakēi
  150. Walskā
  151. Welsnas impulss
  152. Welsnas mōmentan
  153. Widāminan swāikstan
  154. Wilhelms Wīns
  155. Wilkazukkai
  156. Wilnis
  157. Wladimīrs Toporōws
  158. Wīns
  159. Wūksteniks
  160. Wūksteniks (azzaran)
  161. Wūrmiwinzus geggals
  162. Wūrmiwinzus kērka
  163. Zarātiskai
  164. Zinguris
  165. Zirgūni
  166. Zirgūni (appi)
  167. Āukels
  168. Škurs
  169. Šīrkis
  170. Template:Kēmiskan elamēntan
  171. Template:Kēmiskas sendāsenis
  172. Template:Tautā
  173. Kategōrija:Barta
  174. Kategōrija:Garēi
  175. Kategōrija:Karjangus / Karengus
  176. Kategōrija:Kēmija
  177. Kategōrija:Kīrnas
  178. Kategōrija:Mackālija
  179. Kategōrija:Mestāi / Mistāi
  180. Kategōrija:Semba
  181. Kategōrija:Tāutas
Hopefully, those lists are correct. There are so many though, that I'm not 100% sure. They probably are. Kxeon (talk) 15:42, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Special:AllPages. Prūsiska Wikipēdija
  1. The link to the Incubator at the bottom of the home page was added by me in September 2024, and it might be overreaching if I somehow added the banner myself apart from adding that link to the Incubator at the home page. So I don't. Plus the fact that I don't even know how. I also have no idea how he'll feel if I told him. I don't want to ruin anything.
  2. Assuming we can get Nērtiks on board. If not, then unless it's clear that it's not overstepping, we need to find another solution.
  3. Possibly Windows-1252?

This is getting confusing here with who replies to what plus footnotes. To me the issue here is: was the independent wiki "forked" but nobody is working on it now here? Then let's delete the pages here in order not to have a bad copy. --MF-W {a, b} 17:57, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@MF-Warburg: What I understood from it is:
1. There was (10y+ ago) an independent Prussian Wikipedia, hosted at what I'll call "server1". It seems that this server1 suffered a data loss, but not before having some contents of it copied over Wp/prg (NawsPiteris by mid-2021). Before the data loss, it seems that server1 was relatively active, judging by Nertiks' comment "[sic] We have 6 authors who write articles more or less regulary."
2. Then the wiki was reestablished at what I'll call "server2". This seems to have happened in 2021~. Contents of server1 were "restored" (recreated manually?) into server2 and/or (some of) the contents were here and they copied over there (I do think the first option is more probable). As Kxeon stated, nowadays there are only them and a user called "WūranArtīkelinRedigītajs" active in server2, but most of the articles themselves were written long ago in server1.
3. Tigelka and Kxeon "imported" articles from server2 to Wp/prg. Kxeon was probably not aware that they could be breaking the license terms. Tigelka seems to have been aware, since they left a link to the license in their edit reasons and links to the article copied (except appropriate credit was not given). Garcez (talk) 03:34, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And where do people want to contribute now? I think the first question to be solved is not about whether pages were correctly copied, but whether wiki work will continue here or on server2. -- MF-W {a, b} 12:54, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Considering the fact that only @Kxeon is actually active on both wikis, I guess this is up to them to tell us :P

It also seems that some communities are averse to contributing to server2 because it uses Sambian (the one revived) and not "Common Prussian" (or Pomesanian?). But I'm not an expert on Prussian. Anyways, this technically would not be a problem here since we can and we allow support for multiple dialects. Garcez (talk) 03:33, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I had a feeling we couldn't use multiple dialects like that, because of The Manual:

Orthographic practices - if there is more than one way to spell or write your language, you will need rules about it.
Stylistic conventions - if your language does not have a standardised universal form (the way everybody speaks it to understand each other), you will need to have one or have a rule to tell people which forms or dialects of your language to use. Also, you will need more complex stylistic conventions (for an example, see here).

But once I heard that you have now given the green light for having multiple dialects of Prussian on the Incubator, I went to vectorise the map of Prussia so that all the dialects could be added instead of it just being Sambian; and be indicated as an indicator. However the auto-tracer wasn't working properly (for some reason the drawing was like Swiss cheese) and it seemed just a little bit out of my league to try to vectorise the map manually. Then new things came up and I got distracted. Oops.
(Oh, and by the way, Sambia and Warmia for some reason don't seem to have their own maps, as all the others do. Either there's a better way to indicate dialect that's still upfront, or this is going to need more than me making this map...) Kxeon (talk) 15:18, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Iohanen: But then, this doesn't answer the question, which of the wikis do you think other people should contribute to? Garcez (talk) 01:28, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Kxeon: It seems I pinged myself, sorry lol. Garcez (talk) 03:34, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I thought that standardisation would be a problem but clearly it's not. Thus, the Incubator can support more than one dialect, and more than one orthography. So considering how there is more than just Sambian Prussian people may want to contribute to the Incubator if implemented correctly? Kxeon (talk) 02:19, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Seems that you understood me correctly. However, for some reason I feel that I should say some more things too, as there is more to say.
Nērtiks started to edit again from 31 January—7 February 2025, after I asked him to add ParserFunctions, and he attempted to, then ran into trouble that broke the wiki for a little bit, then managed to unsuccessfully add it on 30 January.
After the 14 edits he made in that timespan, he stopped again. Maybe he's too busy to edit (which checks out, he said he'd be making a new prussian dictionary in the spring)?
Also, it seems that the Prūsiska Wikipēdija was forgotten by Nērtiks for a while. I guessed this from the fact that I had to notify Nērtiks on 1 February, that the URLs on Prusaspīra's websites to the Prūsiska Wikipēdija, was still linking to their old domain at wikipedia.prusai.org, and it was even still hosted there (until 2020?). (Their move to prusaspira.org was probably what destroyed all their data)
On top of that, Google not listing the Prūsiska Wikipēdija in their search results, and the fact that the links on Prusaspīra's websites were dead and outdated for a long time, may have also impeded its discoverability.
Considering how nobody has registered other than Nērtiks and me, I'm not even sure if that many people, or anybody (apart from Prusaspirā) even knew the Prūsiska Wikipēdija was even still alive, just moved to Prusaspīra's new domain.
Because of all this, it looks like the Prūsiska Wikipēdija has had a pretty rough time these past few years. Currently, it is inactive, with only two users registered, as well as being relatively hard to find, so it's harder for it to get users too. Not the best situation for a wiki to be in. Kxeon (talk) 21:49, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I was working on the Middle English Wikipedia, but I wasn't able to post the Main Page.

I'm having the same situation as that one person trying to create the Dalmatian Wikipedia.

Edit: Except with a different language. OfficialWatchOS7 (talk) 08:12, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@OfficialWatchOS7: Yes, that is because we don't allow new Wikimedia projects in dead languages. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 08:40, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was trying to incubate it just because of the Old English Wikipedia's existence, though.
It's a facepalm moment because of that. OfficialWatchOS7 (talk) 09:22, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@OfficialWatchOS7 The contents of Wp/enm has migrated to Miraheze, you may contribute at . Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 09:33, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am currently writing an article and trying out some Mandailing wikiquote features in preparation for a new project.

I can't edit or create a new page on this project and am redirected to this page. Can you help me? Here is the project page: Wq/btm/Alaman Utamo IHLubis (talk) 05:34, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

IHLubis: it should work now when you use the preload and keep the "Wq/btm/" prefix for new pages. --MF-W {a, b} 18:51, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Looks like a duck of this nominator, wrongly nominated Wp/cop with same trolling sentences of the linked one. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:31, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --MF-W {a, b} 18:53, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Revdel of vandalism at a user talk page

Edits containing personal information at Special:Redirect/page/3519491 should be rollbacked and deleted. Srapoj (talk) 14:00, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --MF-W {a, b} 18:53, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Request to enable mg (Malagasy) language code for Wikiquote (Wq/mg)

Hello,

I am trying to start the Wikiquote project in the Malagasy language (`mg`) as part of the #SheSaid2025 campaign. However, when I try to create a page like Wq/mg/Michelle Obama, I receive this error:

"You are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code. This code is not valid or not accepted for new Wikimedia projects."

I have already set my preferences to Wikiquote and language `mg`, but it still does not allow me to create pages.

Can you please check whether the `mg` code is enabled for Wikiquote in the Incubator? If not, could it be activated so I and other users can contribute to the Malagasy Wikiquote test project?

Thank you very much for your help!

Raveloaritiana Mamisoa (talk) 18:40, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Raveloaritiana Mamisoa: it should work now. --MF-W {a, b} 12:13, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for your support and for enabling the mg code for Wikiquote in the Incubator.
This is a big step forward for launching the Malagasy Wikiquote as part of the #SheSaid2025 campaign.
I truly appreciate your help in making it possible for me and others to start building this resource in our language. Thank you again Raveloaritiana Mamisoa (talk) 18:06, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Request for Administrator Rights – Shughni Wikimedia Incubator

Hello,

I would like to request administrator rights on the Shughni Wikimedia Incubator Wp/sgh. I am very active in translating and creating content, and I frequently help improve existing articles.

I would use admin rights responsibly to maintain the quality of the Shughni Incubator, including deleting or renaming pages when necessary. I am familiar with Wikimedia policies and committed to supporting the community. Thank you for considering my request.

Chixiijak Chixiijak (talk) 04:03, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, please put your request on I:A. --MF-W {a, b} 12:08, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Add a page named “Wp/iku

I tried to add it but I cannot. It is supposed to be this text:

{{Different code/project|iu|Inuktitut Wikipedia is written in Eastern Canadian Inuktitut.}}

Ignore the mention of “Administrators’ noticeboard” in this page and ignore the mention of a category ~2025-67564-5 (talk) 01:06, 21 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok done. --MF-W {a, b} 09:58, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Error in Wikipedia Klingon Incubator

im trying to create main page in the incubator but it has an error that says: You are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code. But it has a valid a valid ISO 639-3 code (thl) Tailsandshadow (talk) 11:53, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's intended. See Wp/tlh. --MF-W {a, b} 13:10, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Error in Wikivoyage Fulfulde Incubator (Wy/ff)

I'm trying to create an article in Fulfulde Wikivoyage but it has an error message: You are trying to create a page without a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code. This code either is not valid or does not belong to a language accepted for new Wikimedia projects. If you came here from any other page, please return back and fix the link and then create the correctly named page. If by any chance this is blocking you from creating any page which you think has a valid ISO 639-1 or -3 code or belongs to an accepted language, please let administrators know. But the language code is correct and valid. It also the same used on Fulfulde Wikipedia. (ff.wikipedia.org). Can you help with a solution please.Zaynab05 (talk) 07:21, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I received similar complains from various users. Please sir @MF-Warburg can you help us on how to address this problem. Thanks De-Invincible (talk) 09:06, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This should be fixed now with an edit I made to Special:AbuseFilter/31. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 10:10, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the problem is fixed. Thank you for your help, sir. De-Invincible (talk) 17:38, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Can you add a more text in MediaWiki:Wp/dlg/Common.css

h1 {font-family: "Linux Libertine";}
h2 {font-family: "Linux Libertine";}

Sauit (talk) 08:43, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Sauit: This is unnecessary. Linux Libertine is already defined as the first font for h1 and h2 by the Vector and Vector-2022 skins, so this will not have any effect. What is the problem you are trying to solve? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 10:00, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But why Dolgan letters: ө, һ, ү, ӈ looks like they from another font (something like Times New Roman, i think). I thought this would be look like in Main Page. What can we do? Sauit (talk) 10:16, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wp/atv existence

Hello everyone. The Northern Altai test project existing here since 2009, but it hasn't any content exept of four articles, which definitely doesn't written in any of the Northern Altai literary standarts but on Southern variation, they are

Not a single page with the same names exists on the Altai Wikipedia, so I think it would worth to import them and delete Wp/atv. Таёжный лес (talk) 21:17, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Same message was made on Altai Wikipedia's forum one year ago, but nobody responded. Таёжный лес (talk) 21:59, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Таёжный лес Well, it has a Meta-Wiki RFL verified as eligible, that may also need to account when processing such a merge. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:24, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but only one of the supporters seems to have Altai knowledge. Таёжный лес (talk) 09:08, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The existence of the Wp/sty incubator

Hello everyone! I don't speak English, so if you have any questions about the text, please ask me. I wanted to raise the issue of the existence of the Wp/sty incubator. This section hasn't been developed for a long time, and it's unlikely to be developed in the future, as few people speak the Eastern dialect of the Tatar language (Siberian Tatar). The Siberian Tatars, a sub-ethnic group of the Tatars, use the Tatar Wikipedia, which already has a significant number of articles. The incubator was created in 2014, and so far it has not had any active community writing articles. I believe that Wikipedia in my native dialect is not viable and will not be able to be realized, as we have not been using this dialect for a long time. It is better to focus on the main Tatar section. Mizgel (talk) 23:56, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The viability of a language is not merely determined by one native speaker's opinion. There are 150,000 native speakers of Siberian Tatar and this is not a small number. The Mirandese language has 14,000 native speakers and they have a Wikipedia created already. Wp/sty has received contributions from native speakers throughout all these years including in 2025. In my opinion there is no evidence that Wp/sty is not viable. I believe the opposite is true. --DaveZ123 (talk) 18:03, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, exactly. As long as the content is alright, it can be kept. If the content is bad, however, like in the case of well-meaning (?) "language hijackers" who don't know the language, but still try to contribute, we can delete it. @Mizgel, since you seem to have some knowledge of the language, could you tell us whether or not the content looks alright? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 21:34, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I know this dialect, and I could help with the content, but I won't. The reasons are described in my other answer. Mizgel (talk) 17:21, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Only you didn't take into account that this is not a separate language, but a dialect of the Tatar language. There can be a lot of speakers of different dialects in different languages, but no one recognizes them as separate languages and doesn't create a Wikipedia for them. Chinese has a lot of dialects with hundreds of thousands of speakers, German has the same, and so on. So why should we create a separate Wikipedia for the Tatar dialect? What makes us different? Have you asked the Tatars of Western Siberia if they need a Wikipedia in their native dialect? Just because a couple of activists decided to separate themselves doesn't mean that all the speakers of that dialect have done so. I'm sure you understand that your actions regarding whether or not to create a Wikipedia in a particular language or dialect have a significant impact on the future development of these populations. In this case, creating a Wikipedia in the Western Siberian Tatar dialect could potentially lead to a split within the Tatar nation. Please do not be the ones to create this divide. Mizgel (talk) 17:19, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Crimean Tatar Wikipedia is already created separately from Volga Tatar so the Tatar nation is already split on linguistic lines. If you want to see yourself as one Tatar nation then that is your personal choice; however others have their freedom to write in their native language regardless whether or not you think it is a 'dialect' and labelling them as 'language activists' is not helpful at all. --DaveZ123 (talk) 13:07, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You have just shown your incompetence. The Crimean Tatars, despite the fact that they also call themselves Tatars, are a different nation. However, the Tatars of Western Siberia are the same Tatars as the Volga Tatars. Have you heard of an ethno-territorial group? Well, the Tatars have them, and the Tatars of Western Siberia are one of them. It's not me who considers it a dialect, but the entire scientific community, and all reasonable people do not separate themselves from the Tatar nation. I understand that you have no connection to this issue, so you may not care about the outcome. However, I would advise you to research this matter before making any statements. Mizgel (talk) 14:21, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Here is a Wikipedia passage: "The Siberian Tatar language is independent of Volga–Ural Tatar. The dialects are quite remote from Standard Tatar and from each other, often preventing mutual comprehension. The claim that Siberian Tatar is part of the modern Tatar language is typically supported by linguists in Kazan and denounced by Siberian Tatars." --DaveZ123 (talk) 05:35, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You should know better than anyone that Wikipedia is not an authoritative source. Provide scientific facts, not obscure quotes. Mizgel (talk) 17:47, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Page creation

I can't create a page Ellen Meshack (talk) 14:16, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Which page are you trying to create? --MF-W {a, b} 15:08, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Anal picture on Wp/cnr

I am trying to undo the vandalism on Wp/cnr in which the Incubator page has been replaced by a picture of anal sex and I get an error telling me "This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your edit was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Bogus".

I don't really think I'm the one doing the harmful thing in this case, nor do I think that reverting this vandalism is bogus. ~2025-42341-99 (talk) 16:45, 22 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism on the page is reverted. There was something on the page which is disallowed by some abuse filters, that's why you got caught by those filters. 🪶-TΛNBIRUZZΛMΛN (💬) 17:27, 22 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Translating the main page of the long part (submitting the real translation) says a unknown error

When submitting a real translation of this part (this is very long) (in quotes) “You need a valid language code (explained in the manual). If you don't, you can apply for one, or use the non-Wikimedia wiki Incubator Plus 2.0. Starting a test wiki here doesn't mean it will later be automatically accepted by Wikimedia; you need it to be approved by the Language committee first. See Requests for new languages for more information. Please respect the naming conventions for the test language, to help future migrations of pages to an actual wiki project. All of your test pages (including templates and categories) need to be named uniquely (by using a prefix) and consistently.” in the main page, it says there’s an unknown error. I tried refreshing the page and tried it again but still does not work. Other translations seems to work fine but not this one ~2025-26772-30 (talk) 22:06, 29 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's been 2 weeks and there wasn't any response. Was there no solution or something? ~2025-28838-70 (talk) 01:53, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Same. Still waiting for a response ~2025-32244-55 (talk) 19:48, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, didn't notice this until now. Which language are you trying to translate it into? Based on your edit history, I assume it's Greenlandic.
I think I spotted the error – the translation unit contained an external link to Miraheze, and as an unregistered user, you were prohibited from adding that. I have put the URL into a variable now, so you should be able to add the translation now. Could you try it again? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:37, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I already tried it again but the error remains the same. This is what the translation that I placed in (it’s long by the way and sorry if it feels off in the reply (there is the “nowiki” template that I placed in this reply)):
:::* [[$iso|Oqaatsit kodeat]] atuuttoq pisariaqartippatit ([[$manual|najoqqutassiami]] nassuiarneqarpoq). Taamaaliorsimanngikkuit ataaseq qinnuteqarfigisinnaavat, imaluunniit Wikimediamiunngitsoq wiki atorlugu [https://incubator.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page Incubator Plus 2.0]. :::* Uani misileraalluni wikimik aallartitsineq isumaqanngilaq kingusinnerusukkut Wikimediamit nammineerluni akuerineqassasoq; siullermik [[$langcom|Oqaatsinut ataatsimiititaliamit]] akuerineqarnissaa pisariaqartippatit. Takuuk [[m:Requests for new languages|Oqaatsit nutaat pillugit qinnuteqaatit]] annerusumik paasisaqarusukkuit. :::* Misilitsinnerup oqaasianut taaguuteqartitsinermut isumaqatigiissutit ataqqikkit, siunissami quppernerit wiki-projektimut ilumoortumut nuunneqarnissaannut ikiuiniarlutit. Misilitsinnermi quppernerit tamarmik (ilanngullugit skabelonit aamma kategoriit) immikkut ittumik (prefiksi atorlugu) aammalu ataqatigiissumik ateqartinneqartariaqarput.
~2025-36432-74 (talk) 02:39, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The issue is still not fixed ~2025-42579-23 (talk) 19:01, 23 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No need to fix. --MF-W {a, b} 11:15, 24 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Wp/lrc/User:-revi is not created by User:-revi. Wp/lrc/poo looks like a stupid joke. I propose to remove these pages. Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 08:44, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. --MF-W {a, b} 23:32, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Could you also look at Wp/xkv/Lyndall Gordon, which looks like a vandalism, although the creator had been creating only normal pages before. Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 08:51, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The user seems still active, could ask them. --MF-W {a, b} 13:59, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I contacted the user and decided to withdraw my proposal for deletion. Пан Хаунд 2 (talk) 11:35, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If nobody want to add anything,

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林詩朗9982 & 林詩朗92

Obvious sock of 林詩朗 --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 13:23, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Added one. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 05:47, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
User:Minorax: done, thanks for reporting. --MF-W {a, b} 11:18, 24 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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I wanted to give the landing page of Wp/cr some content:

{{box|A Wikipedia in Cree previously existed as [[:kl:]], however it was closed in 2025 due to being too small, too inactive and being a target for vandals. No content was imported to the Incubator because it could all be recreated if needed by natives. See [[m:Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Cree Wikipedia]].}}
{{test wiki
| status = tocreate
| language = Cree
| meta = 
}}

For some reason, however, it says that it's an invalid code though. I don't want to make another test edit on the main page, but me running into this error on the lander implies it'd happen anywhere. This isn't intentional, right? What's going on? Kxeon (talk) 20:44, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done :). Garcez (talk) 22:50, 22 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Clean Delete Reasons Gadget is now working

FYI, Gadget-CleanDeleteReasons.js is now working. Previous version was outdated and incompatible with current Mediawiki version. 🪶-TΛNBIRUZZΛMΛN (💬) 17:27, 24 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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XML file of Wp/pt-br before its 2010 deletion

Assuming you still have the XML file for it, it might be transferrable to Incubator Plus.

This is also assuming this is even worth it. I'm not sure, but it's probably at least worth a shot. Kxeon (talk) 05:10, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kxeon: I don't think an XML file of it exists; the list of XML dumps of deleted projects can be found in Special:ListFiles, unless there's another/older venue I'm not aware of; surely @MF-Warburg knows.
Anyways, I took a look at a sample of around 10 articles from this list of deleted articles, and they were all just one- or two-paragraph copies (with some spelling changes, I assume) of the corresponding ptwiki articles from the time they were created (2007–2009), so I'd say there's nothing there that is of any value now. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 18:03, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am not aware of anything. --MF-W {a, b} 23:33, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is the importing to subdomain complete?

Site creation log shows all created wikis in 2025 was imported, but not deleted from incubator, is there any unspecified waiting period, if not I want to perform mass deletion of all created wikis. Thanks. 🪶-TΛNBIRUZZΛMΛN (💬) 06:39, 30 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

They can be deleted. Note that there are also some from 2024 still not deleted. Please always leave the most recent one undeleted (wq/pcm at the moment) so one can easily see how "created" wikis' pages look and function on Incubator. --MF-W {a, b} 16:53, 30 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
All done, 2024 & 2025 (except the recent one, Wq/pcm).🪶-TΛNBIRUZZΛMΛN (💬) 19:47, 2 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
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Request edit of Special:AbuseFilter/31

Request to add the language code created via the SIL Change Requests after the creation of the abuse filter (only Living languages), including: sjc, phj, xdq, cnq, bpc, lsw, rsn, gov, ugh, lqr, imt, lgo, oie, ajs, dsz, lsc, rib, rnb, egm, nww, zcd, wdt, wyn, hnm, luh, lgs, lvl, ykh, wtb, zlu, nzr, uly, pze, rsw, izm, ikh, tvi, zem, cxh, dyr, dsk, eud, ynb, oak, osd, scz, olb. Also, remove the language code retired (i.e. wrd, pii, dek) or merged into another language (i.e. ajt, snb, lak, smd, tmk, ajp, prp, nte). Note: I am not sure whether constructed language should be included (i.e. isv, tok). Add them as well if appropriate. Thank you very much. Sun8908 (talk) 19:15, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Sun8908 Some of those codes will need further reviews on eligibility, e.g. Noakhali's oak where some users commented at m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Noakhalian that it isn't eligible for us to contribute, it's just a dialect of Bengali and recommend to just integrate Noakhali contents into Bengali Wikipedia. Better to let real speakers of those to request addition one-by-one-ly. No objection on removal of retired/merged codes. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:14, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The objective of creating the abuse filter is to avoid someone to creating a page with non-existent ISO code. I believe all codes were added when the abuse filter was created. Whether or not to create the page shall leave to the community to decide, but I don't think it should be done with an abuse filter. Sun8908 (talk) 04:29, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would rather suggest, as per Special:SiteMatrix, to remove cs, eo, fa, he, nl, pl and uk, because for both Czech and Dutch, all 8 projects are having their subdomains, as for the rest (Esperanto, Persian, Hebrew, Polish and Ukrainian), only Wikiversity is still testing for each one (which has Beta Wikiversity as a separate test platform). Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:42, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No objection to removing the languages that won't be on Incubator anymore. Sun8908 (talk) 11:31, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]