User talk:Pathoschild

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[edit] Status/wp-ota

Thank you very much for this arrangement about of Ottoman Turkish Wikipedia

--Tarih 03:36, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. —Pathoschild 04:11:50, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello Pathoschild,

This page [1] doesn't show all changes about of Ottoman Turkish Wikipedia. I think It doesn't show new pages about of Ottoman Turkish Wikipedia.

--Tarih 20:56, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello, it only shows changes to pages created as of the last update. I've clarified that on the page. —Pathoschild 17:44:34, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Status/wq-li

Was it really needed? All that work? I didn't expect so many pages! I think I've forgot to count a few :) --Ooswesthoesbes 17:17, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I use a script I'm writing to generate most of the information on the status page. :) —Pathoschild 17:26:44, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh yes, domme mich (idiot me)! I forgot that is possible! --Ooswesthoesbes 17:29, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wt/loz

Could we start with a Wiktionary as first project and later on create a Wikipedia? SF-Language 06:32, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes. —Pathoschild 06:33:30, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

How necessary is it to create the interface if we have 0 natives? SF-Language 06:35, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

It is necessary before the wiki is created, since we want to encourage users (particularly natives) to join the community and facilitate their editing. However, the administrator interface and several other messages can be left untranslated for the first project (see a list of optional message). —Pathoschild 06:38:48, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay. SF-Language 06:40, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Where can I find the number of already translated messages? --Ooswesthoesbes 18:24, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

mw:Localisation statistics (of all languages). SPQRobin 19:12, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Danke! Dat is 25%, det geit rap! --Ooswesthoesbes 06:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Niet te snel juichen hoor :-) Also extensions! SPQRobin 14:46, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but there stays: 437/1718. :) det geit rap! --Ooswesthoesbes 14:50, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Status/wp-bcl

This test project currently requires more active editors.

Is it an additional requirement/criterion? So, the number of articles does not matter? --Kologsugmak 00:42, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

The number of articles in itself does not matter; what is important is that the community be persistently diverse and active. With too few editors, there is the possibility that the wiki will become inactive after it is approved. This is not a formal criteria, but only one of many factors taken into consideration before final approval is given. —Pathoschild 03:27:20, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Noted --Alimbosogon 06:44, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

How few is few? --121.1.25.82 06:48, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

4 active users. Did I made 21 edits? I don't speak 1 word bikol! SF-Language 07:15, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

4 is not bad. Note that when that was written there was only one. —Pathoschild 07:20:05, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

It is harder to create or edit in incubator. For instance, a prefix is needed everytime you create a link, you cannot upload images etc. --Bikolwiki 06:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Use something like template:wt/loz/easylink, template:wt/loz/doublelink, template:wt/loz/cat etc. SF-Language 07:01, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Please define the following terms: editor, diverse, active, inactive. What are the formal/official/definite criteria for final approval?--Bikolwiki 06:58, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

The formal, official, and definite criteria are listed and explained at m:Meta:Language proposal policy. This page is unofficial, as explained at the top of the page. —Pathoschild 07:10:45, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

I see. This is a personal page. --Bikolwiki 07:18, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Have you found a third party who will confirm the language used in our project? It has been more than a week since it was announced that Bikol Wikipedia would be created. --Bikolwiki 07:18, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

See the archived discussion, which is usually within 24 hours of current. —Pathoschild 07:21:58, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

"This test project is currently successful."

Currently? What does this mean? --Kologsugmak 16:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

'Currently successful' means successful as of the date these statistics were compiled. —Pathoschild 17:18:54, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

It's funny that the language committee is having a hard time (that's 17 days and counting) finding a third party who can confirm whether the language used in our project is Bikol or not. It only took us (me and Steve) a month or less to translate the interface! If you noticed, he has stopped editing and creating articles too. Look at Hiligaynon and Kinaray-A projects. The proposers have lost their interest. So, the language committee need 24 hours just to approve the project? That's even funnier. 24-hour countdown starts when, 18:25 of 24 October 2007 or 12:15 of 25 October 2007? Anyway, Martin, I really appreciate your effort. Keep up the good work. --Filipinayzd 17:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your good work too. It will be approved (assuming no objections) around 07h UTC or the the morning after (since that is very late in my time zone). —Pathoschild 18:01:43, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi Pathoschild! Can you please explain where you got the edit count (per user) from? You have me down as having done only 12 edits!! I'm sure Filipinayzd can confirm that this is wrong - the last time I checked it was at least 280 edits - if not more... don't worry, I haven't lost interest, I've just been busy but am back in business. --Steven*fung 20:28, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but it's over the last month, excluded categories, pages outside wp/bcl and templates. --Ooswesthoesbes 20:37, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the edit count is to article pages in the wp/bcl space within the last month only. My script calculates this from Special:Recentchangeslink. —Pathoschild 21:47:37, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

It is past 07h UTC already. --Jose77 08:20, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

It's 10 37 in Limburg. He said it could get later because of the time zone, he may be sleeping at this moment... --Ooswesthoesbes 08:26, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

What timezome is UTC? You should not put deadline if you cannot do it. --Filipinayzd 13:25, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Where are you now, the filipins? UTC is 2 hours earlier than Central European Time. Wait a sec... --Ooswesthoesbes 13:28, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Are you from the Neverlands? --Filipinayzd 13:38, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes I'm from Mofert. UTC is 9 hours earlier than the time on the filipins. --Ooswesthoesbes 13:41, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I see. You must be in the Very Far Far East. --Filipinayzd 13:44, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Or west... Looking to my world map you're in the east... --Ooswesthoesbes 13:47, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Hopefully they will keep their promise this time! --Jose77 09:49, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Please note it's final approval, it'll still take a few days for the devolepers to really create the wikipedia... I'm waiting almost 2 days on the creation of the limburgish wikiquote... --Ooswesthoesbes 13:09, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Did they also give you "deadline"? --Filipinayzd 13:28, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

yes, 4 days after I ask when it would be approved. --Ooswesthoesbes 13:30, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Bikol Wikipedia is going to be created around the morning of 26 October 2007 (UTC time) at bcl.wikipedia.org, It is Official. Can you tell me what time and date is it now? --Filipinayzd 13:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

It can't be created if it isn't approved. Currently it's just conditionally approved. The real approval will be 'today morning' (which was a few hours ago) --Ooswesthoesbes 13:21, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I thought only underdeveloped babies are incubated. Our project is like a toddler now. --Filipinayzd 14:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

The language subcommittee has approved the Bikol Wikipedia and notified the Board of Trustees. If the board does not object within four days (and they almost certainly won't), it will be approved and the developers will be asked to create it. —Pathoschild 16:47:59, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Did Eloquence (Erik Möller) board Executive Secretary (26 October 2007 13:59) object or not? How many (Earth) days the developers need to create it? Have they been informed? --Filipinayzd 10:58, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

See my previous comment: "within four days"; this will take four days before it is approved. How long it takes the developers to do it is up to them, but I regularly remind them of the pending wiki until they do it. Usually it takes less than a week. Unfortunately, these delays are outside our control. —Pathoschild 18:50:55, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Ehem. —unsigned by Filipinayzd 12:26, 1 November 2007

Cough. —Pathoschild 14:02:13, 01 November 2007 (UTC)

Kindly remind the developers. Thank you. —unsigned by Filipinayzd 14:37, 7 November 2007

I do so routinely; you can help yourself by joining #wikimedia-tech. See the approval schedule for relevant requests. —Pathoschild 13:34:25, 07 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi. --Filipinayzd 13:31, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi. —Pathoschild 19:53:25, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Any luck? -Filipinayzd 20:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

The developer who typically does it now creates wikis in batches; it is a time-consuming process, but creating several wikis at once doesn't take longer than creating them one at a time. If you'd like to help, join #wikimedia-tech and remind the developers now and then (see the schedule of pending wikis). —Pathoschild 22:35:01, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't have an irc. --Filipinayzd 07:03, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

There's a web-based client available, with instructions on that page. Feel free to ask me if you need help figuring it out. —Pathoschild 08:17:56, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Status/wp-crh

Templates Template:Wp/crh/templatename should also be included. Alessandro 20:39, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I'll change the script to include them, so they'll be added to the status page next time the statistics are updated. —Pathoschild 21:10:51, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Status/wq-br

The templates shouldn't be forgotten: [2].Benoni 19:15, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

This page shows article count, redirects are striked because they're no real articles. Templates and categories are no real articles too, so it isn't important to show them. --Ooswesthoesbes 19:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't think so: templates are very important for the sophistication and above all attractiveness of a wiki.Benoni 22:02, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

The script has already been changed to check for templates, so the templates will be included next time the statistics are updated. —Pathoschild 22:17:10, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Greek Wikiversity

What should we do to open the greek WV? Please answer to my talk page.Thanks --Diaza or ZaDiak —85.73.201.5 22:58, 27 October 2007

Hello Diaza. User:Pathoschild/Status/wv-el shows the progress of the Greek Wikiversity request. The last requirement left to meet is a more active test project (see activity statistics). Since you asked this question as an IP address, I cannot answer on your talk page because your IP address may change before you see it. —Pathoschild 18:11:53, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

OK thank you very much.

[edit] Moving your subpages to the Incubator namespace?

Hello Pathoschild. I think your subpages (User:Pathoschild/Status) should be moved to Incubator:Status, because it is an official analysis (as I can see on m:RFL#Open).

SPQRobin 14:07, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello SPQRobin. The status pages will probably be moved to the subcommittee pages on Meta when the new script is completed, since it no longer depends on Special:Recentchangeslinked. They're somewhat semi-official, being performed by a member of the subcommittee for use in decisions, but not necessarily reflecting subcommittee decisions. If you think it would be helpful to have them at Incubator:Status instead, that is fine; it is likely that the script will be public-access soon, so it might encourage users to publicly post the results. —Pathoschild 17:55:05, 12 December 2007 (UTC)